The Right Supported Gun Control

and from huffpost... discussing WHY the NRA changed from it's prior moderate views to the vigilante extremists they are today:

All that changed in 1977. That year, the leadership of the NRA decided to retreat from political lobbying and refocus on recreational shooting and outdoors activities. This sparked a backlash among a group of hardline gun rights advocates who were upset that the NRA had endorsed the Gun Control Act of 1968 -- the first significant federal gun legislation since the 1930s. Motivated by the belief that guns weren't primarily for hunting but for personal protection in an era of rising crime rates, the hardliners staged a coup at the annual meeting of the membership, ousting the old leaders and committing the organization to political advocacy.

Adam Winkler: When the NRA Promoted Gun Control
 
Jillian thinks she makes a point. Poor pathetic fool.

Neither the "right" or the NRA is against all efforts at gun control. No one argues that in most circumstances, convicted criminals shouldn't possess weapons, no one argues that the mentally unstable should have guns, nor should terrorist groups not be scrutinized and have their weapons taken.

The left would disarm all Americans if it could and that is something we must be diligent in our efforts to stop.

Here she is attacking sources and posters and all you get out of her is rightwingnutter this and rightwingnutter that.

Ever see her post anything of substance that wasn't criticized or refuted in under 60 seconds.

She's the poster girl for attacking sources and posters...never content.

Perhaps you and the other moron should try reading.

damn, you're stupid. you're also both bitter compulsive liars.

and you really should stop using del's avi. we know you're begging for attention, but it's kind of skeevy seeing it come up with your trolls.

p.s. i must be making a point... or you and the other loser wouldn't be trolling the thread. :thup:
 
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Jillian thinks she makes a point. Poor pathetic fool.

Neither the "right" or the NRA is against all efforts at gun control. No one argues that in most circumstances, convicted criminals shouldn't possess weapons, no one argues that the mentally unstable should have guns, nor should terrorist groups not be scrutinized and have their weapons taken.

The left would disarm all Americans if it could and that is something we must be diligent in our efforts to stop.

how's that 5th grade education treating you, nutbar?
 
Jillian thinks she makes a point. Poor pathetic fool.

Neither the "right" or the NRA is against all efforts at gun control. No one argues that in most circumstances, convicted criminals shouldn't possess weapons, no one argues that the mentally unstable should have guns, nor should terrorist groups not be scrutinized and have their weapons taken.

The left would disarm all Americans if it could and that is something we must be diligent in our efforts to stop.

Here she is attacking sources and posters and all you get out of her is rightwingnutter this and rightwingnutter that.

Ever see her post anything of substance that wasn't criticized or refuted in under 60 seconds.

She's the poster girl for attacking sources and posters...never content.

Perhaps you and the other moron should try reading.

damn, you're stupid.

Not nearly as stupid as someone who enters a thread 110 posts later without reading any of it and acts like she knows what she's talking about by merely attacking the OP.

Aside from the fact that she insults all who posted to the thread.

Know anyone like that, dear?
 
Jillian thinks she makes a point. Poor pathetic fool.

Neither the "right" or the NRA is against all efforts at gun control. No one argues that in most circumstances, convicted criminals shouldn't possess weapons, no one argues that the mentally unstable should have guns, nor should terrorist groups not be scrutinized and have their weapons taken.

The left would disarm all Americans if it could and that is something we must be diligent in our efforts to stop.

how's that 5th grade education treating you, nutbar?

It's just fine for looking down my nose at your 3rd grade education, loser.
 
If you demand a link, you are obligated to read it...

The Secret History of Guns

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The Ku Klux Klan, Ronald Reagan, and, for most of its history, the NRA all worked to control guns. The Founding Fathers? They required gun ownership—and regulated it. And no group has more fiercely advocated the right to bear loaded weapons in public than the Black Panthers—the true pioneers of the modern pro-gun movement. In the battle over gun rights in America, both sides have distorted history and the law, and there’s no resolution in sight.



The eighth-grade students gathering on the west lawn of the state capitol in Sacramento were planning to lunch on fried chicken with California’s new governor, Ronald Reagan, and then tour the granite building constructed a century earlier to resemble the nation’s Capitol. But the festivities were interrupted by the arrival of 30 young black men and women carrying .357 Magnums, 12-gauge shotguns, and .45-caliber pistols.

The 24 men and six women climbed the capitol steps, and one man, Bobby Seale, began to read from a prepared statement. “The American people in general and the black people in particular,” he announced, must



Seale then turned to the others. “All right, brothers, come on. We’re going inside.” He opened the door, and the radicals walked straight into the state’s most important government building, loaded guns in hand. No metal detectors stood in their way.

It was May 2, 1967, and the Black Panthers’ invasion of the California statehouse launched the modern gun-rights movement.

The Founding Fathers instituted gun laws so intrusive that, were they running for office today, the NRA would not endorse them. While they did not care to completely disarm the citizenry, the founding generation denied gun ownership to many people: not only slaves and free blacks, but law-abiding white men who refused to swear loyalty to the Revolution.

For those men who were allowed to own guns, the Founders had their own version of the “individual mandate” that has proved so controversial in President Obama’s health-care-reform law: they required the purchase of guns. A 1792 federal law mandated every eligible man to purchase a military-style gun and ammunition for his service in the citizen militia. Such men had to report for frequent musters—where their guns would be inspected and, yes, registered on public rolls.

Opposition to gun control was what drove the black militants to visit the California capitol with loaded weapons in hand.

The Panthers, however, took it to an extreme, carrying their guns in public, displaying them for everyone—especially the police—to see.

Don Mulford, a conservative Republican state assemblyman from Alameda County, which includes Oakland, was determined to end the Panthers’ police patrols. To disarm the Panthers, he proposed a law that would prohibit the carrying of a loaded weapon in any California city.

The Panthers’ methods provoked an immediate backlash. The day of their statehouse protest, lawmakers said the incident would speed enactment of Mulford’s gun-control proposal. Mulford himself pledged to make his bill even tougher, and he added a provision barring anyone but law enforcement from bringing a loaded firearm into the state capitol.

Republicans in California eagerly supported increased gun control. Governor Reagan told reporters that afternoon that he saw “no reason why on the street today a citizen should be carrying loaded weapons.” He called guns a “ridiculous way to solve problems that have to be solved among people of good will.” In a later press conference, Reagan said he didn’t “know of any sportsman who leaves his home with a gun to go out into the field to hunt or for target shooting who carries that gun loaded.” The Mulford Act, he said, “would work no hardship on the honest citizen.”

The fear inspired by black people with guns also led the United States Congress to consider new gun restrictions, after the summer of 1967 brought what the historian Harvard Sitkoff called the “most intense and destructive wave of racial violence the nation had ever witnessed.” Devastating riots engulfed Detroit and Newark. Police and National Guardsmen who tried to help restore order were greeted with sniper fire.

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thanks.

i saw the part about reagan....what about the NRA? i'm not surprised reagan would support gun control, he was fairly moderate.

this, from a very rightwing blog which insists that gun control legislation is unconstitutional (despite the fact that it's not unconstitutional):

The NRA supported The National Firearms Act of 1934 which taxes and requires registration of such firearms as machine guns, sawed-off rifles and sawed-off shotguns. ... NRA support of Federal gun legislation did not stop with the earlier Dodd bills. It currently backs several Senate and House bills which, through amendment, would put new teeth into the National and Federal Firearms Acts." —American Rifleman, March 1968, P. 22

Keep and Bear Arms - Gun Owners Home Page - 2nd Amendment Supporters

i'm looking specifically for references to support your claim re: black panthers

i don't believe anyone has claimed that the NRA or the right is against any gun control. if anyone did, they do not know history.
 
Jillian thinks she makes a point. Poor pathetic fool.

Neither the "right" or the NRA is against all efforts at gun control. No one argues that in most circumstances, convicted criminals shouldn't possess weapons, no one argues that the mentally unstable should have guns, nor should terrorist groups not be scrutinized and have their weapons taken.

The left would disarm all Americans if it could and that is something we must be diligent in our efforts to stop.

Nonsense.

The only real difference is the status of semi-auto rifles such as the AR 15 and the efficacy of magazine restrictions.

There is no effort to ‘disarm’ or ‘confiscate’ firearms.
 
when they thought that Black Panthers were going to get guns.

too funny...

this included both the NRA and Ronald Reagan.

Now, i don't have a problem with that...

but i suspect they'd take the same position today.

These nutters just got finished shilling for a candidate who signed the same kind of assault weapons ban that they are shitting themselves and threatening revolution over.
 
thanks.

i saw the part about reagan....what about the NRA? i'm not surprised reagan would support gun control, he was fairly moderate.

this, from a very rightwing blog which insists that gun control legislation is unconstitutional (despite the fact that it's not unconstitutional):

The NRA supported The National Firearms Act of 1934 which taxes and requires registration of such firearms as machine guns, sawed-off rifles and sawed-off shotguns. ... NRA support of Federal gun legislation did not stop with the earlier Dodd bills. It currently backs several Senate and House bills which, through amendment, would put new teeth into the National and Federal Firearms Acts." —American Rifleman, March 1968, P. 22

Keep and Bear Arms - Gun Owners Home Page - 2nd Amendment Supporters

i'm looking specifically for references to support your claim re: black panthers

i don't believe anyone has claimed that the NRA or the right is against any gun control. if anyone did, they do not know history.

Jillian is the poster child for ignorance of history. She only knows what she reads in the Huffington Post.
 
Jillian thinks she makes a point. Poor pathetic fool.

Neither the "right" or the NRA is against all efforts at gun control. No one argues that in most circumstances, convicted criminals shouldn't possess weapons, no one argues that the mentally unstable should have guns, nor should terrorist groups not be scrutinized and have their weapons taken.

The left would disarm all Americans if it could and that is something we must be diligent in our efforts to stop.

how's that 5th grade education treating you, nutbar?



Grade school level attacks...but when she does it..it's just routine discourse.


Jillian is very angry today since she didn't get to join in attacking me on the EO thread due to a self inflicted moratorium on attacking me.

But her self control failed her and she needed an excuse to go back to her old ways.

I didn't think she would have lasted this long.
 
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this, from a very rightwing blog which insists that gun control legislation is unconstitutional (despite the fact that it's not unconstitutional):



Keep and Bear Arms - Gun Owners Home Page - 2nd Amendment Supporters

i'm looking specifically for references to support your claim re: black panthers

i don't believe anyone has claimed that the NRA or the right is against any gun control. if anyone did, they do not know history.

Jillian is the poster child for ignorance of history. She only knows what she reads in the Huffington Post.

She's a liberal living in NYC...need anyone say more as to why she says the dumb things that she does.
 
Jillian thinks she makes a point. Poor pathetic fool.

Neither the "right" or the NRA is against all efforts at gun control. No one argues that in most circumstances, convicted criminals shouldn't possess weapons, no one argues that the mentally unstable should have guns, nor should terrorist groups not be scrutinized and have their weapons taken.

The left would disarm all Americans if it could and that is something we must be diligent in our efforts to stop.

Nonsense.

The only real difference is the status of semi-auto rifles such as the AR 15 and the efficacy of magazine restrictions.

There is no effort to ‘disarm’ or ‘confiscate’ firearms.

Typical left wing loon response. If you had any reading comprehension skills you would understand that I said "The left would.......if it could.." which isn't the same as "the left is, right this very minute".
 
thanks.

i saw the part about reagan....what about the NRA? i'm not surprised reagan would support gun control, he was fairly moderate.

this, from a very rightwing blog which insists that gun control legislation is unconstitutional (despite the fact that it's not unconstitutional):

The NRA supported The National Firearms Act of 1934 which taxes and requires registration of such firearms as machine guns, sawed-off rifles and sawed-off shotguns. ... NRA support of Federal gun legislation did not stop with the earlier Dodd bills. It currently backs several Senate and House bills which, through amendment, would put new teeth into the National and Federal Firearms Acts." —American Rifleman, March 1968, P. 22

Keep and Bear Arms - Gun Owners Home Page - 2nd Amendment Supporters

i'm looking specifically for references to support your claim re: black panthers

i don't believe anyone has claimed that the NRA or the right is against any gun control. if anyone did, they do not know history.

You'll be old if you wait for jillian to support anything she posts.

In her world..her opinion is Bible and enough to be a legend in her own mind.
 
when they thought that Black Panthers were going to get guns.

too funny...

this included both the NRA and Ronald Reagan.

Now, i don't have a problem with that...

but i suspect they'd take the same position today.

These nutters just got finished shilling for a candidate who signed the same kind of assault weapons ban that they are shitting themselves and threatening revolution over.

1. Unlike you sheep, we aren't a 1-issue people. We have individual and independant thoughts, and we weight all issues.

2. That ban had expired, and there's no doubt that had Romney been elected, he would not have reinstated it.

3. You're a left wing looney toon.
 
Jillian thinks she makes a point. Poor pathetic fool.

Neither the "right" or the NRA is against all efforts at gun control. No one argues that in most circumstances, convicted criminals shouldn't possess weapons, no one argues that the mentally unstable should have guns, nor should terrorist groups not be scrutinized and have their weapons taken.

The left would disarm all Americans if it could and that is something we must be diligent in our efforts to stop.

Nonsense.

The only real difference is the status of semi-auto rifles such as the AR 15 and the efficacy of magazine restrictions.

There is no effort to ‘disarm’ or ‘confiscate’ firearms.

Typical left wing loon response. If you had any reading comprehension skills you would understand that I said "The left would.......if it could.." which isn't the same as "the left is, right this very minute".

I wonder why they all fear the NRA so much while they marginalize them with lies.:cool:

Here's BREAKING NEWS for some on the left.

Every gun owner isn't in agreement with the NRA.
 
when they thought that Black Panthers were going to get guns.

too funny...

this included both the NRA and Ronald Reagan.

Now, i don't have a problem with that...

but i suspect they'd take the same position today.

These nutters just got finished shilling for a candidate who signed the same kind of assault weapons ban that they are shitting themselves and threatening revolution over.

1. Unlike you sheep, we aren't a 1-issue people. We have individual and independant thoughts, and we weight all issues.

2. That ban had expired, and there's no doubt that had Romney been elected, he would not have reinstated it.

3. You're a left wing looney toon.

Wow three swings and misses in one post.

Impressive.

Looks like you're out.
 
Nonsense.

The only real difference is the status of semi-auto rifles such as the AR 15 and the efficacy of magazine restrictions.

There is no effort to ‘disarm’ or ‘confiscate’ firearms.

Typical left wing loon response. If you had any reading comprehension skills you would understand that I said "The left would.......if it could.." which isn't the same as "the left is, right this very minute".

I wonder why they all fear the NRA so much while they marginalize them with lies.:cool:

Here's BREAKING NEWS for some on the left.

Every gun owner isn't in agreement with the NRA.

Probably because the NRA has bitch-slapped them time after time.
 
These nutters just got finished shilling for a candidate who signed the same kind of assault weapons ban that they are shitting themselves and threatening revolution over.

1. Unlike you sheep, we aren't a 1-issue people. We have individual and independant thoughts, and we weight all issues.

2. That ban had expired, and there's no doubt that had Romney been elected, he would not have reinstated it.

3. You're a left wing looney toon.

Wow three swings and misses in one post.

Impressive.

Looks like you're out.

His avatar is really throwing me.
 

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