The Republicans Continue to Wage War Against Government Workers

[Harry Dresden]

im a govt worker Warrior and when im out there delivering the mail in a fucking rainstorm with winds blowing and its 45 degrees i dont feel so fucking useless........i dont know to many private sector guys sitting in their houses that would change places with me on that day.....every job has useless fucks....including the private sector.....but everyone seems to forget the most useless fucks we have are the people running this country.....dont hold the common guy at fault because he took a fucking Govt job to feed his family......the real useless fucks are the guys who would turn down a govt job and stay unemployed.....just because its a Govt job.......

Are you really a postal worker? Republicans are trying to distroy the post office. They started in 2006. Some states like Oregon and Washington vote through the mail. They are hoping to supress votes. Different tactics than what they use in Iowa, Ohio, Minnisota and Alabama.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/187177-darrel-issa-too-many-human-beings.html

Do you have any proof of Republicans trying such a thing? I'll be waiting.

yea ...a month or so back Issa sent the board of Governors a memo telling them to just ignore the contract and fire or just layoff all the guys under Civil Service and if you have to go further go for it.....and this was told to us by our Union and verified yesterday by our Post Master ,who is against that proposal....but he said its true he got told by the district manager....

 

[Harry Dresden]

It's funny you mention that, which party kept Cops and firefighters and the like away from the 9/11 memorial this year? And which party advocated for them being there? Who doesn't appreciate them and who does now?

It's funny that the Republicans in general patronize (behave in an offensively condescending manner toward cops, firefighters and EMT's) and some believe that shows respect. And funnier that those who believe to patronize is to show respect don't follow the movement to feel they are way over paid and receive benefits much to extravagant.

No they do not, we appreciate the valuable service that every one of them render, we do however believe that the unions representing them need to be reigned in before the whole system collapses. Dont confuse the two, we are not against public servants, we are however against the greedy unions pretending to represent them. I'm a federal Officer, who dropped out of my union "AFGE" because they are taking my money and giving it away to people that I dont want to have it, just like they do to most locals around the country, the only difference being I can get out of my union, most other people cannot, but I guarantee that a good percentage of them feel the same way I do and appreciate what the GOP is doing, whether you want to believe it or not.

tell that too Issa.....i think the guys way to solve the Postal problem shows no respect for any person.....the guys a Dick .....

 

[Harry Dresden]

I'm a government worker, and a Republican, and you are very wrong. If the democrats had not spent almost 4Trillon dollars in the last 3 years would the GOP have to reign in this spending to try and save our country? One of the parties has got to be the grownups here, and apparently it will not be the Democrats. I have taken a 2 year pay freeze, maybe even 5 year if the GOP votes there way. And you know what? I support it if that is what needs to happen to get this country back on track. Dont blame the GOP, put the blame where it needs to be, reckless spending and corruption on the left.

so do you think you are a useless fuck?.....just because you had the audacity to take a Govt job?..........

Whether he does or not his beloved party thinks he is.

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i work with a few people who would identify more with the Right than Left.....they are starting to see that this attack on the worker,because the lowlife years ago had the gall to take a govt job,is getting rather ridiculous...

 

[boilermaker55]

well well, who knew being a Guberment WORKER meant you had a JOB for friggen life.

WELCOME to the REAL WORLD.

And crap like this line is WHY I don't take ANYTHING SERIOUS from the Hufferpost..

and proudly announced the firings of tens of thousands of workers

Yes, like those damn career service people. You know them Army, Navy...etc.

 

[Si modo]

well well, who knew being a Guberment WORKER meant you had a JOB for friggen life.

WELCOME to the REAL WORLD.

And crap like this line is WHY I don't take ANYTHING SERIOUS from the Hufferpost..

and proudly announced the firings of tens of thousands of workers

Yes, like those damn career service people. You know them Army, Navy...etc.

If I had any rep left, I'd rep you just for your username.

 

[Stephanie]

well well, who knew being a Guberment WORKER meant you had a JOB for friggen life.

so lets see i need a job.....i can go work minimum wage or a little bit higher down the street.....or oh look the PO is hiring.....mmm....better wages and benefits....ill go try there.......nice job out doors walking staying fit.....so i guess im supposed to quit after 4 or 5 years and go take a job paying less?.....is that what it is?......i should have quit years ago and took a lesser paying job?.......im sure you would have done that right Steph?....

I don't know what the hell you're babbling about. NO ONE is talking about you. But the fact is Guberment workers GET LAID off the SAME as the little guy. so the OP posting crap about it is what I was talking about. and guess what, I work for a Guberment school and I KNOW I could be LAID OFF at any time because of BUDGETS. I also HAVE to work a second job because my pay is NOT high dollar and they short me 15 min a day of getting bennies...BUT I STILL work there because I love my job AND I have a JOB. AND if I got laid off I'd just GO OUT and look for ANOTHER ONE..

now carry on with your me me me, you you you or whatever.

 

[Bass v 2.0]

I am a government worker myself, a GS-12, there isn't a person in here that could tell me my work is useless and a waste of taxpayer money. The problem with you right wing monkey is that you think privatizing jobs through eliminating federal jobs saves taxpayers money when the same money that would pay a federal worker is being paid to the private company, so the taxpayers don't win anything and no money is saved, the only one who benefits is the private company owner. Privatized contractors are the worst waste of taxpayer dollars, you get better quality work from a govt employee who has taken an oath to serve his country over a private contractor who has taken no oath and is in it strictly for the money.

 

[Bass v 2.0]

Sorry si modo, my post wasn't racist, report what I said via the Hatch Act is you think it was you jackass.

 

[Si modo]

Sorry si modo, my post wasn't racist, report what I said via the Htach Act is you think it was you jackass.

OK, monkey. You say it wasn't racist.

Neither is mine, monkey.

 

[rdean]

What?

Seriously?

This is the problem with you guys. You think value only comes from the private sector. And that the private sector is "entitled" to all the profit.

It doesn't and it isn't. And in fact the private sector draws heavily on goods and services that are provided FOR them by the tax payer.

Sheesh.

Where did i say anything about value?

I am trying to show you idiots a simple concept.

For one the government doesn't produce any goods. And any services provided by government are already paid for by the public.

The point is that the taxes taken out of government salaries do not add to the total of tax collected.

Government R&D is responsible for the telecommunications backbone that allows both you and me to post here. I would call that "goods". And there are a wealth of other goods that the private sector uses for private profit like government satellites..

Police, Fire and Sanitation allow Business to operate without having to rely on expensive and "capricious" private sector equivalents, which, by the way have all been tried before.

So government workers ADD to the economy by allowing private businesses to maximize their profit by not worrying about these services. And they pay income tax...which is yet another plus. AND they are not using services like unemployment or worse..winding up as part of the criminal element.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/econo...ch-deal-will-mean-6-900-jobs.html#post4207079

Part of the "Triple Helix" of economic growth.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Where did i say anything about value?

I am trying to show you idiots a simple concept.

For one the government doesn't produce any goods. And any services provided by government are already paid for by the public.

The point is that the taxes taken out of government salaries do not add to the total of tax collected.

Government R&D is responsible for the telecommunications backbone that allows both you and me to post here. I would call that "goods". And there are a wealth of other goods that the private sector uses for private profit like government satellites..

Police, Fire and Sanitation allow Business to operate without having to rely on expensive and "capricious" private sector equivalents, which, by the way have all been tried before.

So government workers ADD to the economy by allowing private businesses to maximize their profit by not worrying about these services. And they pay income tax...which is yet another plus. AND they are not using services like unemployment or worse..winding up as part of the criminal element.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/econo...ch-deal-will-mean-6-900-jobs.html#post4207079

Part of the "Triple Helix" of economic growth.

Kinda like Solyndra huh?

 

[rdean]

Elected officials are not employees in the same sense that government union employees that cannot be fired are.

We have in most cases state and federal constitutionally mandated numbers for elected representatives.

I know of no such mandate for government employed secretaries, janitors etc.

in the 31 years i have been in the PO i have seen quit a few guys get fired.....we just had one the other day for threatening another employee......ive seen it for stealing,violence,bad attendance.....

I have an Army buddy who works at the post office and he said you could be fired just by using the phrase, "Going postal".

 

[rdean]

Bob Cesca: The Republicans Continue to Wage War Against Government Workers

Adding to the syllabus of conservative contradictions this week, both Christie and Scott attacked government employees and proudly announced the firings of tens of thousands of workers even though they themselves are government employees. Given the Republican talent for selling nonsense by the gross, the Republicans have managed to successfully define government workers as nothing more than faceless automatons -- robotic parasites without families, mortgages and futures.

At the Reagan Library this week, Christie applauded President Reagan's firing of air traffic controllers. Mitt Romney doesn't believe that government workers are contributors to the "real economy." And while the Republicans attack the president for increasing the size of government, 500,000 government workers have lost their jobs since the president's inauguration.

The centerpiece of the statement is his proud assertion that "government doesn't create jobs." Who, then, is the "we've" inside the clause "we've generated 87,200 private sector jobs?" If he's referring to his administration ("we" as in "Governor Scott et al"), then he's referring to the government -- the executive branch of the Florida state government, to be exact -- and if the government "generated" 87,200 private sector jobs, then government does, in fact, create jobs.

Rick Scott continued by patting himself on the back for firing 15,000 Floridians. Despite his attempts to dehumanize the people who were fired, those government "jobs" were occupied by real-life human beings: Florida residents who, due to their lost jobs, might not be able to pay their rents and mortgages in an already crippled Florida housing market. Scott was talking about Florida residents who, because of Scott's policies, have become a drain on the state and national economies as they line up for unemployment checks and watch their credit card balances max out. Good job, governor. Tell me again how the Republicans will fix the economy.

At this rate when I retire from the military I mind as well retire and stay in Germany because there will be nothing worth coming home to. And people will continue to vote for such morons.

I'm a government worker, and a Republican, and you are very wrong. If the democrats had not spent almost 4Trillon dollars in the last 3 years would the GOP have to reign in this spending to try and save our country? One of the parties has got to be the grownups here, and apparently it will not be the Democrats. I have taken a 2 year pay freeze, maybe even 5 year if the GOP votes there way. And you know what? I support it if that is what needs to happen to get this country back on track. Dont blame the GOP, put the blame where it needs to be, reckless spending and corruption on the left.

What about the ten trillion before that? Where did that come from? Or should I say, "Where did it go?" Oops.

 

[rdean]

Government R&D is responsible for the telecommunications backbone that allows both you and me to post here. I would call that "goods". And there are a wealth of other goods that the private sector uses for private profit like government satellites..

Police, Fire and Sanitation allow Business to operate without having to rely on expensive and "capricious" private sector equivalents, which, by the way have all been tried before.

So government workers ADD to the economy by allowing private businesses to maximize their profit by not worrying about these services. And they pay income tax...which is yet another plus. AND they are not using services like unemployment or worse..winding up as part of the criminal element.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/econo...ch-deal-will-mean-6-900-jobs.html#post4207079

Part of the "Triple Helix" of economic growth.

Kinda like Solyndra huh?

I was thinking more like China, Germany, Singapore and Taiwan.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Elected officials are not employees in the same sense that government union employees that cannot be fired are.

We have in most cases state and federal constitutionally mandated numbers for elected representatives.

I know of no such mandate for government employed secretaries, janitors etc.

in the 31 years i have been in the PO i have seen quit a few guys get fired.....we just had one the other day for threatening another employee......ive seen it for stealing,violence,bad attendance.....

I have an Army buddy who works at the post office and he said you could be fired just by using the phrase, "Going postal".

Only after the grievance and arbitration requirements have been met and that usually end up with the employee receiving back pay

 

[Bass v 2.0]

Sorry si modo, my post wasn't racist, report what I said via the Htach Act is you think it was you jackass.

OK, monkey. You say it wasn't racist.

Neither is mine, monkey.

Ok si-monkeytard, no and report that I said monkey in reference to rightwingers via the Hatch Act.

 

[Si modo]

Sorry si modo, my post wasn't racist, report what I said via the Htach Act is you think it was you jackass.

OK, monkey. You say it wasn't racist.

Neither is mine, monkey.

Ok si-monkeytard, no and report that I said monkey in reference to rightwingers via the Hatch Act.

Why would I report your calling me a monkey, monkey?

Are you seeing shit in the rules that only you can see, chimp?

 

[Skull Pilot]

http://www.usmessageboard.com/econo...ch-deal-will-mean-6-900-jobs.html#post4207079

Part of the "Triple Helix" of economic growth.

Kinda like Solyndra huh?

I was thinking more like China, Germany, Singapore and Taiwan.

Yeah we should be more like China.

 

[Bass v 2.0]

I work federal as part of the DoD, none of the retards calling government employees wasteful know the scope of what we do and most of use are ex-military like myself so we are well qualified and deserving of our pay, where are still serving our country. Like I said, if you give jobs to a privatized contractor the government saved no money. Look at Cape Canaveral, they're closing down a NASA station there and 2000 federal employees lose their jobs, great for American, right? Wrong, all those businesses that catered to that NASA station will go out of business, the same effect base closures have on surrounding areas, so yes, the government does create jobs, directly and indirectly. If they move to another area more businesses will be created to cater to them which indirectly the government creates jobs.

 

[Si modo]

I work federal as part of the DoD, none of the retards calling government employees wasteful know the scope of what we do and most of use are ex-military like myself so we are well qualified and deserving of our pay, where are still serving our country. Like I said, if you give jobs to a privatized contractor the government saved no money. Look at Cape Canaveral, they're closing down a NASA station there and 2000 federal employees lose their jobs, great for American, right? Wrong, all those businesses that catered to that NASA station will go out of business, the same effect base closures have on surrounding areas, so yes, the government does create jobs, directly and indirectly. If they move to another area more businesses will be created to cater to them which indirectly the government creates jobs.

And those more businesses will cancel out the closed businesses.

It's called zero sum.

Government does not create jobs.

Government does not contribute to the GDP, either.