The Republic is not a perfect system

[WinterBorn]

I think that Washington was just a British governor in the colonies. This was before the founding of the USA

So what? You know, you have a serious tendency to rant on and on about things you dislike, whether they have any bearing on the topic or not.

Ok, so you think George Washington was a spy, a traitor, and whatever.

It still has no bearing on the topic YOU raised.

 

[WinterBorn]

who wrote the founding document of the United States is the founder of the United States. It's enough.

So the US has only one founding father? It was all Jefferson. And he was a brilliant man.

Why would you heap all that praise on him, while denigrating the system he put in place?

 

[rupol2000]

So the US has only one founding father? It was all Jefferson. And he was a brilliant man.

Why would you heap all that praise on him, while denigrating the system he put in place?

The system was normal compared to the colonial regime. But it must progress towards Freedom, as Jefferson wanted.

 

[WinterBorn]

The system was normal compared to the colonial regime. But it must progress towards Freedom, as Jefferson wanted.

You say it must progress towards Freedom. But, at the same time, you advocate less freedom for certain groups.

That is certainly not what Jefferson wanted.

 

[rupol2000]

You say it must progress towards Freedom. But, at the same time, you advocate less freedom for certain groups.

That is certainly not what Jefferson wanted.

Freedom in the right sense.
Plebeian and fag freedoms are contrary to right-wing freedom and lead to slavery

 

[WinterBorn]

Freedom in the right sense.
Plebeian and fag freedoms are contrary to right-wing freedom and lead to slavery

None of that leads to slavery.

Freedoms are either for everyone or it is meaningless.

And the idea of separate freedoms for women is a joke.

 

[rupol2000]

None of that leads to slavery.

This is shown by the practice of Rome.
In addition, this is evidenced by the change in the correct system of the Aryans in Athens to the oligarchic regime of Solon, which generally ruined Athens

 

[WinterBorn]

This is shown by the practice of Rome.
In addition, this is evidenced by the change in the correct system of the Aryans in Athens to the oligarchic regime of Solon, which generally ruined Athens

We see that we have improved the system by not worrying about what consenting adults do in the privacy of their own home and by encouraging women to seek their dreams and enjoy the same freedoms men enjoy.

 

[rupol2000]

The destruction of Great tradition never leads to the prosperity and sovereignty of the nation. If the tradition is destroyed, then worms have wound up inside.

 

[WinterBorn]

The destruction of Great tradition never leads to the prosperity and sovereignty of the nation. If the tradition is destroyed, then worms have wound up inside.

Some traditions simply perpetuate a lack of freedoms for some.

Not surprising you would pick McCarthy. He is rotting in hell.

 

[rupol2000]

Some traditions simply perpetuate a lack of freedoms for some.

Not surprising you would pick McCarthy. He is rotting in hell.

Slave European "freedoms" are not needed in America.

 

[sparky]

Freedoms are either for everyone or it is meaningless.

so many do not 'get' that freedom exists as a common denominator WB

you cut one of us, we all bleed

~S~

 

[WinterBorn]

Slave European "freedoms" are not needed in America.

Once again, there are no slaves here. And we will have freedom for all.

What possible right do you think anyone has to make separate "freedoms" for women? They make up 51% of the population, and you think they shouldn't have the same freedoms?

 

[rupol2000]

so many do not 'get' that freedom exists as a common denominator WB

you cut one of us, we all bleed

~S~

There is no freedom as a common denominator. The freedom of the wolf is contrary to the freedom of the goat.

The fathers meant freedom from slavery, in the spirit of the Revolution, this does not cancel traditions and does not involve feminists and faggots.

 

[WinterBorn]

so many do not 'get' that freedom exists as a common denominator WB

you cut one of us, we all bleed

~S~

Thank you.

 

[WinterBorn]

There is no freedom as a common denominator. The freedom of the wolf is contrary to the freedom of the goat.

The fathers meant freedom from slavery, in the spirit of the Revolution, this does not cancel traditions and does not involve feminists and faggots.

And we achieved freedom from slavery, although it took a long time.

Traditions are fine. But when a tradition curtails the freedom of a US citizen, the tradition should be cancelled. If your "traditions" call for freedoms only for some citizens, it is a bad tradition.

 

[rupol2000]

Once again, there are no slaves here. And we will have freedom for all.

What possible right do you think anyone has to make separate "freedoms" for women? They make up 51% of the population, and you think they shouldn't have the same freedoms?

Stop clucking your bullshit. Freedom is only freedom from oppression and slavery.

We have to save America as a beacon of Freedom in the world, and instead you mix it with European slavery

Jefferson didn't know about any fucking feminism, and if you told him about the freedom of faggots, he would have shot you.

 

[WinterBorn]

Stop clucking your bullshit. Freedom is only freedom from oppression and slavery.

We have to save America as a beacon of Freedom in the world, and instead you mix it with European slavery

Jefferson didn't know about any fucking feminism, and if you told him about the freedom of faggots, he would have shot you.

All you are saying is that we have progressed. You may not like it, but we won't be going backwards on these.

We ARE saving America as a beacon of freedom. What pisses you off is that we are not just saving freedoms for straight, white men.

All citizens enjoy these freedoms.

 

[sparky]

We have to save America as a beacon of Freedom in the world

I'll grant you we can't carry the torch of freedom around this rock , unless we serve as example to it Rup

and while our FF's intent may be debatable , they did in fact have the foresight to pen a living document ,leaving the altruistic value to those who would take the reins down the road.

That said , all cultures and countries evolve.

~S~

 

[rupol2000]

All you are saying is that we have progressed.

There is no progress, only degradation