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i watched the videonone of that has ever been substantiated
Are you purposely ignoring the facts?
It has been proven many times over and over. Some of it is in that video. Type it in google and you'll find plenty more.
they point out ONE person, thats it
whining about protesters is just another distraction.
why don't our so called representatives, including the president, talk about what is actually in the bill?
Because they know that if people really saw what was in the bill, there'd be no way in hell that it would pass.
But it's easier to vilify anyone who dares disagree than to actually tell the truth.
So why don't you read the bill and then ask questions?
http://energycommerce.house.gov/Press_111/20090714/aahca.pdf
Ask about how the bill is designed to make it impossible for your current plan to be grandfathered.
Ask how the bill will eliminate some plans altogether such as those covered under ERISA guidelines
Ask about the additional tax that will be levied on people who are not in a government approved plan
ask these questions and see if you get an answer, chances are your "representatives" will call you a Nazi instead of answering them
whining about protesters is just another distraction.
why don't our so called representatives, including the president, talk about what is actually in the bill?
Because they know that if people really saw what was in the bill, there'd be no way in hell that it would pass.
But it's easier to vilify anyone who dares disagree than to actually tell the truth.
So why don't you read the bill and then ask questions?
http://energycommerce.house.gov/Press_111/20090714/aahca.pdf
Ask about how the bill is designed to make it impossible for your current plan to be grandfathered.
Ask how the bill will eliminate some plans altogether such as those covered under ERISA guidelines
Ask about the additional tax that will be levied on people who are not in a government approved plan
ask these questions and see if you get an answer, chances are your "representatives" will call you a Nazi instead of answering them
Whining? .. if the protesters are shutting down the discussion, then what are you supposed to do?
The town halls were set up to create discussion about the bill and answer questions. That's NOT what the right wants.
They instead want to spread lies, so that we have to consume all of our time refuting complete lies instead of talking about the bill. The bill is not perfect. We need real discussion in order to have a productive bill that moves us forward as a society.
Look the health care industry is going to lose 20-30% of it's profits if this bill goes through. Do you understand how much money that is... each year??
Let's start using some common sense here people.
You want to use common sense then allow real competition by dropping the restrictions that do not allow health insurance companies to sell across state lines.
You can buy auto, homeowners' and just about any other insurance from any company anywhere in the country but not health insurance.
And why does a bill that proposes to offer competition and more choice completely ignore the one thing guaranteed to bring prices down?
But you would rather blame the insurance companies and everyone else rather than actually asking questions about the bill.
That's probably because neither you or your so called representatives haven't read any of it.
You want to use common sense then allow real competition by dropping the restrictions that do not allow health insurance companies to sell across state lines.
You can buy auto, homeowners' and just about any other insurance from any company anywhere in the country but not health insurance.
And why does a bill that proposes to offer competition and more choice completely ignore the one thing guaranteed to bring prices down?
But you would rather blame the insurance companies and everyone else rather than actually asking questions about the bill.
That's probably because neither you or your so called representatives haven't read any of it.
I have read large portions of it. I have not gone through all 1100+ pages.
I want debate on the bill. There are several things I don't agree with about it. I am open to hearing new ideas, and wish we would discuss them, so stop making assumptions.
Allowing insurance across state lines is not a good idea. It will likely drive down costs, but we'd need to re-write each state law regarding consumer protections. I know there are ways to do this, but what will end up happening of course is that states will end up bartering to be homes to insurance companies by competing to have the least amount of regulations and consumer protections in place.
Money isn't the only motivation behind a good idea. We need to have good ideas that protect our best interest as well.
Free speech is fine, but when the rightwing freakies practice political sharia in trying to unlawfully disrupt town hall meetings, they have crossed the line, they should be arrested, and they should pay fat fines. They best way always to correct bad rightist behavior is to hit them in the pocket book.
Social civility is the way in which the affairs of a democratic republic can be debated and decided.
Skull wants to know if Dems should be held to the same standards as the shari'a right of America.
Of course.
Skull wants to know if Dems should be held to the same standards as the shari'a right of America.
Of course.
OK so let's just arrest all protesters that shout down a speaker as you suggested
Free speech is fine, but when the rightwing freakies practice political sharia in trying to unlawfully disrupt town hall meetings, they have crossed the line, they should be arrested, and they should pay fat fines. They best way always to correct bad rightist behavior is to hit them in the pocket book.
Social civility is the way in which the affairs of a democratic republic can be debated and decided.
Anti-Reform Group Takes Credit For Helping Gin Up Town Hall Rallies | The Plum Line
Anti-Reform Group Takes Credit For Helping Gin Up Town Hall Rallies
Conservatives for Patients Rights, the operation thats running a national campaign against a public health care option, is now publicly taking credit for helping gin up the sometimes-rowdy outbursts targeting House Dems at town hall meetings around the country, raising questions about their spontaneity.
CPR is the group headed by controversial former hospitals exec Rick Scott thats spending millions on ads attacking reform in all sorts of lurid ways, a campaign thats being handled by the same P.R. mavens behind the Swift Boat Vets.
In response to my questions, a spokesman for the group confirmed that it has undertaken a concerted effort to get people out to the town hall meetings to protest reform. The spokesperson, Brian Burgess, confirmed that CPR is emailing out town hall alert flyers, and schedules of town hall meetings, to its mailing list.
These efforts combined with CPRs effort to enlist Tea Party-ers, as reported yesterday by TPM provide a glimpse into the ways anti-reform groups are trying to create a sense of public momentum in their favor
excuse me but you said:
Free speech is fine, but when the rightwing freakies practice political sharia in trying to unlawfully disrupt town hall meetings, they have crossed the line, they should be arrested, and they should pay fat fines. They best way always to correct bad rightist behavior is to hit them in the pocket book.
Social civility is the way in which the affairs of a democratic republic can be debated and decided.
all any protesters have done is to shout down a speaker and you call that political sharia
so anyone who shouts down a speaker is committing a crime and should be arrested.