Skull Pilot
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Which bill? There are several. All are online as far as I know. HR 3200 is the one most often quoted. If we get bogged down on "Death Panels" and "Forced Abortions" and other retarded nonsense from people who obviously haven't read the bill, or they read it and don't understand it, we aren't advancing the debate in an honest manner.
that's the one for which I've been constantly posting links
and i have never mentioned either of those red herrings.
I've asked very simple questions and no one has answered me.
Do you want to answer?
How can the supporters of the bill say we get to keep what we have if we like it when the language of the bill makes it impossible to keep what we have?
So again, I can't keep what I have if it changes at all even if i am OK with those changes.
And did you notice how the bill is retroactive allowing no changes in policies 26 days before it goes into effect?
And what about people with insurance covered under ERISA guidelines?
Their insurance will be eliminated 5 years in and they'll have to find something else.
And here's my favorite part
arTAX ON INDIVIDUALS WITHOUT ACCEPTABLE
11 HEALTH CARE COVERAGE.
12 (a) IN GENERAL.Subchapter A of chapter 1 of the
13 Internal Revenue Code of 1986 is amended by adding at
14 the end the following new part:
15 PART VIIIHEALTH CARE RELATED TAXES
SUBPART A. TAX ON INDIVIDUALS WITHOUT ACCEPTABLE HEALTH CARE
COVERAGE.
16 Subpart ATax on Individuals Without Acceptable
17 Health Care Coverage
Sec. 59B. Tax on individuals without acceptable health care coverage.
18 SEC. 59B. TAX ON INDIVIDUALS WITHOUT ACCEPTABLE
19 HEALTH CARE COVERAGE.
20 (a) TAX IMPOSED.In the case of any individual
21 who does not meet the requirements of subsection (d) at
22 any time during the taxable year, there is hereby imposed
23 a tax equal to 2.5 percent of the excess of
1 (1) the taxpayers modified adjusted gross in2
come for the taxable year, over
3 (2) the amount of gross income specified in
4 section 6012(a)(1) with respect to the taxpayer.
5 (b) LIMITATIONS.
6 (1) TAX LIMITED TO AVERAGE PREMIUM.
7 (A) IN GENERAL.The tax imposed
8 under subsection (a) with respect to any tax9
payer for any taxable year shall not exceed the
10 applicable national average premium for such
11 taxable ye
OK so not only can you not really keep what you have, if you do not buy a government approved "acceptable" policy you will be penalized with an additional tax.
So tell me how does this bill give me more choice as the president and his sycophants are saying?
I already answered this for you. But you don't want to hear the answer. I can't force you to use your mind. It's your choice.
refresh my memory because i certainly don't remember you giving me an answer