JoeB131
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"Oh, I think that the only people who forgot what universities are for are the universities.What a silly comparison. Panhandling is only legal in places delineated by law. That panhandler isn't being removed because a bunch of mall-goers held a rally to remove him. And anyway, the argument is not about whether they are 'capable", it's about whether or not they should. And they shouldn't. Somewhere along the line, these crybabies forgot what universities are for!
Oh, I think that the only people who forgot what universities are for are the universities.
Probably when they decided to charge someone $65,000 for a piece of paper.
We should make a video of you of Christophobic comments you've made around here for years.
We should. But you see, as I was raised Catholic and had to be subjected to 12 years of their bullshit, I'm kind of justified.
Shameless lie. He has them on his show precisely because they are moderate Muslims and repeatedly says that they need to be empowered, in order to help reform Islam. You don't know what you are talking about.
NO, what he gets on are Self-hating Muslims like Mac's heroes who blame them for not being part of a culture they don't like.
And that's the difference. I really, truly do hate Catholicism. BUt I don't paint myself as a "moderate" Catholic who wants to "Reform" his religion. I just found it to be silly and walked away.
Our problem with Islam is not that their Magic Sky Pixie isn't any sillier than your Magic Sky Pixie. Our problem with Islam is that we keep invading their countries and wondering why they fight back.
Understandable.Just for the record, he's no liberal. He's a Regressive, an illiberal leftist authoritarian.Canary in a coal mine - and all but the 'deaf' can hear the 'sound of silence' over the jackhammers.
Trend or anomaly?
'It's becoming increasingly apparent that conservative speakers aren't welcome on college and university campuses.'
Well, I'm sure that institutions of learning where they teach about talking snakes will always welcome these guys
Why any real college should is a mystery.
Here's a crazy idea. Let's get rid of the concept of commencement speakers altogether. They really add nothing to the experience, which should be for the grads and their families.
nvitations extended to nine speakers this year raised the ire of students or professors, prompting protests, the threat of at least one boycott –- and the withdrawal Saturday of former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice from the commencement ceremony at Rutgers University. She previously was scheduled to address Rutgers students and receive an honorary Doctor of Laws degree May 18. But some faculty members had protested that choice due to Rice’s role in the Iraq War'
Condi Rice is a fucking War criminal! the only place that bitch should be doing an "address" is in front of an international tribunal at the Hague.
Students are the noise makers - not the decision makers.
Or they are people standing up for what they believe in.
Joe, if nothing else you are a prime example of why I detest today's liberals. You're very useful to have around, in fact I truly hope you continue to post away on the internet, especially around election time.
Two different things.
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I know what you're saying. I use that term only because it's really what liberalism in the United States has evolved to.
Irrelevant red herring. That could be true, yet still students have forgotten that universities exist promarily for the open exchange of ideas, which includes instruction.
I will ignore your nonsensical spin on Maher and on Islam, as that is for a different thread
That's a lie. That is not what upsets me, and I have made the effort to make that clear. If you have to lie and pigeon hole to have a point, you don't actually have a point.Irrelevant red herring. That could be true, yet still students have forgotten that universities exist promarily for the open exchange of ideas, which includes instruction.
I will ignore your nonsensical spin on Maher and on Islam, as that is for a different thread
NO, it's exactly the point of this thread.
Mac and you are ALL UPSET that Bill Maher and his Islamophobic nonsense isn't welcome on campuses where Muslims might actually be in attendance.
Maher gets away with it because he also throws in some barbs on Christianity, so he can claim he's representing an atheist point of view.
That's a lie. That is not what upsets me, and I have made the effort to make that clear. If you have to lie and pigeon hole to have a point, you don't actually have a point.
I would mount the same defense for that nauseating puke Milo.
And, again, I will not be directly responding to your whiny nonsense about Maher in this thread.
Which kids? 40% of them? 80%? 51%? Define your ideas, if you expect a direct response to them.That's a lie. That is not what upsets me, and I have made the effort to make that clear. If you have to lie and pigeon hole to have a point, you don't actually have a point.
I would mount the same defense for that nauseating puke Milo.
And, again, I will not be directly responding to your whiny nonsense about Maher in this thread.
No one is stopping you from listening to Milo or Maher or Coulter, but if kids on a campus decide they aren't welcome, that's their prerogative.
Snowflakes don't get to rule college campuses regardless of their butt hurt, or yours of course.That's a lie. That is not what upsets me, and I have made the effort to make that clear. If you have to lie and pigeon hole to have a point, you don't actually have a point.
I would mount the same defense for that nauseating puke Milo.
And, again, I will not be directly responding to your whiny nonsense about Maher in this thread.
No one is stopping you from listening to Milo or Maher or Coulter, but if kids on a campus decide they aren't welcome, that's their prerogative.
Joey's been gone a long time. Drugs, psychiatric pathology or both. it's anyone's guess.*proof*
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Which kids? 40% of them? 80%? 51%? Define your ideas, if you expect a direct response to them.
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Which kids? 40% of them? 80%? 51%? Define your ideas, if you expect a direct response to them.
Why? Kids don't want this shit on their campus, that's their perogative.
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well, I had better things to do... i didn't chicken out like you did when I proved you hero was a bigot.
Okay, I'll let you off the hook. I do not expect a good answer to my question, because I don't believe one exists. The correct response to these speakers would be to have a 'counter event', in which their points, lies, and fallacies are deconstructed. Or, challenge them to direct debate, and let the speakers be the snowflakes, if they chicken out. That's what intellectuals do on campuses. They don't throw little hissy fits and combat ideas with tantrums.Which kids? 40% of them? 80%? 51%? Define your ideas, if you expect a direct response to them.
Why? Kids don't want this shit on their campus, that's their perogative.
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well, I had better things to do... i didn't chicken out like you did when I proved you hero was a bigot.
This isn't about intellectualism, this isn't about the kids. It's about shutting down all opposing speech.Okay, I'll let you off the hook. I do not expect a good answer to my question, because I don't believe one exists. The correct response to these speakers would be to have a 'counter event', in which their points, lies, and fallacies are deconstructed. Or, challenge them to direct debate, and let the speakers be the snowflakes, if they chicken out. That's what intellectuals do on campuses. They don't throw little hissy fits and combat ideas with tantrums.Which kids? 40% of them? 80%? 51%? Define your ideas, if you expect a direct response to them.
Why? Kids don't want this shit on their campus, that's their perogative.
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well, I had better things to do... i didn't chicken out like you did when I proved you hero was a bigot.
"Look what they're turning these kids into. "This isn't about intellectualism, this isn't about the kids. It's about shutting down all opposing speech.Okay, I'll let you off the hook. I do not expect a good answer to my question, because I don't believe one exists. The correct response to these speakers would be to have a 'counter event', in which their points, lies, and fallacies are deconstructed. Or, challenge them to direct debate, and let the speakers be the snowflakes, if they chicken out. That's what intellectuals do on campuses. They don't throw little hissy fits and combat ideas with tantrums.Which kids? 40% of them? 80%? 51%? Define your ideas, if you expect a direct response to them.
Why? Kids don't want this shit on their campus, that's their perogative.
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well, I had better things to do... i didn't chicken out like you did when I proved you hero was a bigot.
Look what they're turning these kids into. Bernie Sanders puts this well: "To me, it's a sign of intellectual weakness".
The Regressives are cowards.
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The purposeful shutting down of opposing speech? Safe places? Trigger warnings? Microaggressions?"Look what they're turning these kids into. "This isn't about intellectualism, this isn't about the kids. It's about shutting down all opposing speech.Okay, I'll let you off the hook. I do not expect a good answer to my question, because I don't believe one exists. The correct response to these speakers would be to have a 'counter event', in which their points, lies, and fallacies are deconstructed. Or, challenge them to direct debate, and let the speakers be the snowflakes, if they chicken out. That's what intellectuals do on campuses. They don't throw little hissy fits and combat ideas with tantrums.Which kids? 40% of them? 80%? 51%? Define your ideas, if you expect a direct response to them.
Why? Kids don't want this shit on their campus, that's their perogative.
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well, I had better things to do... i didn't chicken out like you did when I proved you hero was a bigot.
Look what they're turning these kids into. Bernie Sanders puts this well: "To me, it's a sign of intellectual weakness".
The Regressives are cowards.
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And this is where you and i will diverge. Nobody is "turning these kids into anything". What we are seeing is not really a brand new phenomenon.
Okay. I won't deny that people contribute to it. But I will also not deny these students the individual accountability they richly deserve.The purposeful shutting down of opposing speech? Safe places? Trigger warnings? Microaggressions?"Look what they're turning these kids into. "This isn't about intellectualism, this isn't about the kids. It's about shutting down all opposing speech.Okay, I'll let you off the hook. I do not expect a good answer to my question, because I don't believe one exists. The correct response to these speakers would be to have a 'counter event', in which their points, lies, and fallacies are deconstructed. Or, challenge them to direct debate, and let the speakers be the snowflakes, if they chicken out. That's what intellectuals do on campuses. They don't throw little hissy fits and combat ideas with tantrums.Which kids? 40% of them? 80%? 51%? Define your ideas, if you expect a direct response to them.
Why? Kids don't want this shit on their campus, that's their perogative.
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well, I had better things to do... i didn't chicken out like you did when I proved you hero was a bigot.
Look what they're turning these kids into. Bernie Sanders puts this well: "To me, it's a sign of intellectual weakness".
The Regressives are cowards.
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And this is where you and i will diverge. Nobody is "turning these kids into anything". What we are seeing is not really a brand new phenomenon.
This has gotten worse, and it's being defended and enabled by the Regressives.
I'll side with Barack Obama, Van Jones, Liz Warren, Bernie Sanders and many others on that.
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Agreed. They're kids, and impressionable. Plus, when you have professors and illiberal leftist authoritarians doing everything they can to enable and defend you, it becomes us vs. them pretty quickly.Okay. I won't deny that people contribute to it. But I will also not deny these students the individual accountability they richly deserve.The purposeful shutting down of opposing speech? Safe places? Trigger warnings? Microaggressions?"Look what they're turning these kids into. "This isn't about intellectualism, this isn't about the kids. It's about shutting down all opposing speech.Okay, I'll let you off the hook. I do not expect a good answer to my question, because I don't believe one exists. The correct response to these speakers would be to have a 'counter event', in which their points, lies, and fallacies are deconstructed. Or, challenge them to direct debate, and let the speakers be the snowflakes, if they chicken out. That's what intellectuals do on campuses. They don't throw little hissy fits and combat ideas with tantrums.Why? Kids don't want this shit on their campus, that's their perogative.
well, I had better things to do... i didn't chicken out like you did when I proved you hero was a bigot.
Look what they're turning these kids into. Bernie Sanders puts this well: "To me, it's a sign of intellectual weakness".
The Regressives are cowards.
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And this is where you and i will diverge. Nobody is "turning these kids into anything". What we are seeing is not really a brand new phenomenon.
This has gotten worse, and it's being defended and enabled by the Regressives.
I'll side with Barack Obama, Van Jones, Liz Warren, Bernie Sanders and many others on that.
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Yep. There are people on campus who want to hear opposing views.Which kids? 40% of them? 80%? 51%? Define your ideas, if you expect a direct response to them.
Why? Kids don't want this shit on their campus, that's their perogative.
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well, I had better things to do... i didn't chicken out like you did when I proved you hero was a bigot.
"well, I had better things to do..."
Strange, your profile shows you posting the entire time: JoeB131
"Why? Kids don't want this shit on their campus, that's their perogative. "
which kids? 80%? 40%? 51%? or is the decision made by who is loudest? You have to define this, because I can produce examples of students that wanted these speakers to speak on these campuses.
Sorry, you decided to build your little house of cards, now you get to own it.
So, your answer?
(And again: i will happily engage your whiny crap about Maher in a different thread, another time. It is not relevant to this topic.)
which kids? 80%? 40%? 51%? or is the decision made by who is loudest? You have to define this, because I can produce examples of students that wanted these speakers to speak on these campuses.
Okay, I'll let you off the hook. I do not expect a good answer to my question, because I don't believe one exists. The correct response to these speakers would be to have a 'counter event', in which their points, lies, and fallacies are deconstructed. Or, challenge them to direct debate, and let the speakers be the snowflakes, if they chicken out. That's what intellectuals do on campuses. They don't throw little hissy fits and combat ideas with tantrums.