‘The People Have Spoken’: An Analysis

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Is the result of an election always the correct one???



1.After an election, we often hear that phrase…’the people have spoken.’ The phrase appears to carry the suggestion that the voters choice is the best one.

But is it…always?....sometimes?....how often.

With so many elections to judge, in hindsight, lots of times another choice would have been better. It’s the basis so many of us use to study history.




2. Usually, I'm willing to use the guidance of the godfather of conservatism:
“Edmund Burke
… was an Irish[4][5][6] statesman born in Dublin, as well as an author, orator, political theorist and philosopher, who after moving to London in 1750 served as a member of parliament (MP) between 1766 and 1794 in the House of Commons with the Whig Party.

In the nineteenth century, Burke was praised by both conservatives and liberals.[9] Subsequently, in the twentieth century he became widely regarded as the philosophical founder of modern conservatism.”
Edmund Burke - Wikipedia

I must point out that ‘liberal’ does not mean today, what it meant then, classical liberal, as in our Founders. The modern term ‘liberal’ refers to the name purloined by the Socialist Party, at the behest of communist John Dewey.
That's why the modern Liberal stands for the same things the Communist Party did.




One of Burke’s ideas was that the society as a whole can be counted on to make the right decision, elect the right individual:

“The individual is foolish; the multitude, for the moment, is foolish, when they act without deliberation; but the species is wise, and, when time is given to it, as a species it always acts right.”
But....that is not always the case.




3.Two of the factors that make it difficult for the voter to analyze objectively are

a. the absence of fair reporting by the media, which often is simply an outlet for Democrat press releases,

and

b. the fact that so many voters treat politics like sports, and simply root for their ‘team.’ And, having chosen their team, nearly all refuse to hear reasons why theirs was a flawed choice.





4. In light of some glaring mistakes by the voters, perhaps lacking the due diligence, perhaps misled by the media, Burke’s claim needs a tiny touch-up.

And, the man to do it is J.R. Bell….. America’s Favorite Sports Betting Expert” (America’s Favorite Sports Betting Expert
https://deadspin.com/how-america-s-favorite-sports-betting-expert-turned-a-s-1782438574)
.

In an interview on ESPN, Bell reminded bettors that, even the experts, professional gamblers, using their in depth knowledge of events, only expect to be right 60% of the time.


I’d hazard a bet that the same percentage applies to the candidates we elect.


5. We've had 45 Presidents......if 40% of the elected executives were a mistake......

...that's 18 who were wrongly elected.


What an interesting place to begin investigations!
 
5. We've had 45 Presidents......if 40% of the elected executives were a mistake......

...that's 18 who were wrongly elected.
but people will always disagree if it was a mistake or not
it's like '''is the cup half full or half empty?'''
 
Electing Trump was no mistake. It was a deliberate refutation of the MSM and Deep State, we're enjoying every minute of the spectacle!! Here is a reminder of how significant Trump's "upset" victory over the unbeatable candidate was:


 
5. We've had 45 Presidents......if 40% of the elected executives were a mistake......

...that's 18 who were wrongly elected.
but people will always disagree if it was a mistake or not
it's like '''is the cup half full or half empty?'''


The debate as to whom to award points is exhilarating, and an intellectual pursuit.

Dispositive is how the Left's acolytes try their hardest to shut down debate.


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John Dewey, (born Oct. 20, 1859, Burlington, Vt., U.S.—died June 1, 1952, New York, N.Y.), American philosopher and educator who was a founder of the philosophical movement known as pragmatism, a pioneer in functional psychology, and a leader of the progressive movement in education in the United States.

Progressive education is essentially a view of education that emphasizes the need to learn by doing. Dewey believed that human beings learn through a 'hands-on' approach. This places Dewey in the educational philosophy of pragmatism. Pragmatists believe that reality must be experienced.
John Dewey. - Google Search

This John Dewey who died in 1952?
 
Electing Trump was no mistake. It was a deliberate refutation of the MSM and Deep State, we're enjoying every minute of the spectacle!! Here is a reminder of how significant Trump's "upset" victory over the unbeatable candidate was:


if


I certainly agree with your first sentence.

The second..."we're enjoying every minute of the spectacle!!
Not I,....noting the strength of the Deep State, and the depth of ignorance of their supporters.


The Supreme Court proves your first statement.....
 
As far as the large amount of butthurt the Op is experiencing let me remind yous partisans that every president has faced opposition after being elected...Some can adjust some sublimate, like Trump.. He can't stand the D.C. heat and neither can the panty waste brigade which follows him..
 
And here I heard the Don brag about his negotiating prowess, looks like his prowess van has a flat tire..
 
no

The majority of people stay home on election day.

That says a lot about the candidates we're offered, and the parties they belong to.
 
5. We've had 45 Presidents......if 40% of the elected executives were a mistake......

...that's 18 who were wrongly elected.
but people will always disagree if it was a mistake or not
it's like '''is the cup half full or half empty?'''


The debate as to whom to award points is exhilarating, and an intellectual pursuit.

Dispositive is how the Left's acolytes try their hardest to shut down debate.


414aX-0cJUL._SX330_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg


What a joke.
You cowards don't even mention the influence and partisan hackery that Fox News has on the White House AND cable news in general.

Seven....count 'em, clowns......7 ex--Fox employees now work in the White House.

Larry Kudlow
  • Former Fox News anchor
Bill Shine
  • Former Fox News exec producer
John Bolton
  • Former Fox News contributor
Heather Nauert
  • Former correspondent and co-anchor on "The Big Story"
Mercedes Schlapp
  • Former Fox News contributor
Tony Sayegh
  • Former Fox News commentator
K.T. McFarland
  • Former Fox News contributor


    So spare us your bullshit about the Democratic media influence when the Republican media has them fucking embedded in the White House.
  • .
  • .
  • ..
  • OH! And let's not forget that Hick Hopes now works for Fox. And Sean Hannity talks to Trump every single day.
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5. We've had 45 Presidents......if 40% of the elected executives were a mistake......

...that's 18 who were wrongly elected.
but people will always disagree if it was a mistake or not
it's like '''is the cup half full or half empty?'''


The debate as to whom to award points is exhilarating, and an intellectual pursuit.

Dispositive is how the Left's acolytes try their hardest to shut down debate.


414aX-0cJUL._SX330_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg


What a joke.
You cowards don't even mention the influence and partisan hackery that Fox News has on the White House AND cable news in general.

Seven....count 'em, clowns......7 ex--Fox employees now work in the White House.

Larry Kudlow
  • Former Fox News anchor
Bill Shine
  • Former Fox News exec producer
John Bolton
  • Former Fox News contributor
Heather Nauert
  • Former correspondent and co-anchor on "The Big Story"
Mercedes Schlapp
  • Former Fox News contributor
Tony Sayegh
  • Former Fox News commentator
K.T. McFarland
  • Former Fox News contributor


    So spare us your bullshit about the Democratic media influence when the Republican media has them fucking embedded in the White House.
  • .
  • .
  • ..
  • OH! And let's not forget that Hick Hopes now works for Fox. And Sean Hannity talks to Trump every single day.
.



Since you have invoked the famed, if apocryphal, “Republican Smear Machine,” otherwise known as the “Right-Wing Smear Machine,” among other terms, lets put an end to this ignorance. The Smear Machine is Left-Wing only. There cannot be a Righ-Wing such incarnation since the right has no access to the news dissemination. The mainstream media, broadcast and print, is populated by left wingers only. Proof? Consider this listing of past and present media types. Please circle the right wingers:



Dan Rather, Katie Couric, Tom Brokaw, Peter Jennings, Edward R. Murrow, Ted Koppel, Andy Rooney, Leslie Stahl, George Stephanopoulos, Mike Wallace, Barbara Walters, Ed Bradley, Campbell Brown, Jack Cafferty, Walter Cronkite, Jim Lehrer, Roger Grimsby, Soledad O’Brien, Keith Olbermann, Cokie Roberts, Diane Sawyer, Bob Schieffer, Paula Zahn, Sam Donaldson, Brian Williams, Judy Woodruff, David Shuster, Bernard Shaw, Jessica Savitch, Harry Reasoner, Sally Quinn, Gwen Ifill, Douglas Kiker, Charles Kuralt, Roger Mudd, Robert MacNeil, Charles Osgood, Douglas Edwards, John Chancellor, Charles Gibson, Christiane Amanpour, Anderson Cooper, Ann Curry, Marvin Kalb, Bryant Gimbel, Andrea Mitchell, Jeanne Moos, Bill Schneider, Daniel Schoor, Richard Threlkeld, Jake Tapper, Ann Compton, Lester Holt, Michael Beschloss


All card-carrying liberals. So, which of them spread nasty notions about Democrats?

QED: the Smear Merchants cannot be right-wingers. Don’t get caught spreading that libel again!



Here is Beschloss making a fool of himself of Imus show:

FREEDOM EDEN: Mike Beschloss, Don Imus, and Barack Obama's IQ



Surprise: New York Times Circulation Plunges, Wall Street Journal Gains

Surprise: New York Times Circulation Plunges, Wall Street Journal Gains | HuffPost



Here is Linda Douglas shilling for the Obama healthplan, and nailed by Howard Kurtz, CNN, as she lies about Obama and single payer, and supports snitching on Americans:




ANDREA MITCHELL: You've got 47% of the people in our NBC/Wall Street Journal opinion poll who have health insurance who don't like what the president is doing. The problem he's got -- 47% of the people who've got coverage don't want change. They don't like what they're hearing. Now, they may not know what's good for them, but the problem is that he always knew he was going to have to persuade people with insurance, that's the largest number, not the people without insurance, for expanded coverage. So they've got a real problem.
'They May Not Know What's Good For Them'


"MSNBC Anchor: "Our Job" Is To "Control Exactly What People Think"
MSNBC Anchor: "Our Job" Is To "Control Exactly What People Think"




Next time, remember to take your shoe off before you put your foot in your mouth.
 
Is the result of an election always the correct one???



1.After an election, we often hear that phrase…’the people have spoken.’ The phrase appears to carry the suggestion that the voters choice is the best one.

But is it…always?....sometimes?....how often.

With so many elections to judge, in hindsight, lots of times another choice would have been better. It’s the basis so many of us use to study history.




2. Usually, I'm willing to use the guidance of the godfather of conservatism:
“Edmund Burke
… was an Irish[4][5][6] statesman born in Dublin, as well as an author, orator, political theorist and philosopher, who after moving to London in 1750 served as a member of parliament (MP) between 1766 and 1794 in the House of Commons with the Whig Party.

In the nineteenth century, Burke was praised by both conservatives and liberals.[9] Subsequently, in the twentieth century he became widely regarded as the philosophical founder of modern conservatism.”
Edmund Burke - Wikipedia

I must point out that ‘liberal’ does not mean today, what it meant then, classical liberal, as in our Founders. The modern term ‘liberal’ refers to the name purloined by the Socialist Party, at the behest of communist John Dewey.
That's why the modern Liberal stands for the same things the Communist Party did.




One of Burke’s ideas was that the society as a whole can be counted on to make the right decision, elect the right individual:

“The individual is foolish; the multitude, for the moment, is foolish, when they act without deliberation; but the species is wise, and, when time is given to it, as a species it always acts right.”
But....that is not always the case.




3.Two of the factors that make it difficult for the voter to analyze objectively are

a. the absence of fair reporting by the media, which often is simply an outlet for Democrat press releases,

and

b. the fact that so many voters treat politics like sports, and simply root for their ‘team.’ And, having chosen their team, nearly all refuse to hear reasons why theirs was a flawed choice.





4. In light of some glaring mistakes by the voters, perhaps lacking the due diligence, perhaps misled by the media, Burke’s claim needs a tiny touch-up.

And, the man to do it is J.R. Bell….. America’s Favorite Sports Betting Expert” (America’s Favorite Sports Betting Expert
https://deadspin.com/how-america-s-favorite-sports-betting-expert-turned-a-s-1782438574)
.

In an interview on ESPN, Bell reminded bettors that, even the experts, professional gamblers, using their in depth knowledge of events, only expect to be right 60% of the time.


I’d hazard a bet that the same percentage applies to the candidates we elect.


5. We've had 45 Presidents......if 40% of the elected executives were a mistake......

...that's 18 who were wrongly elected.


What an interesting place to begin investigations!
Oh yes....the old
Voters are ignorant meme
 
Is the result of an election always the correct one???



1.After an election, we often hear that phrase…’the people have spoken.’ The phrase appears to carry the suggestion that the voters choice is the best one.

But is it…always?....sometimes?....how often.

With so many elections to judge, in hindsight, lots of times another choice would have been better. It’s the basis so many of us use to study history.




2. Usually, I'm willing to use the guidance of the godfather of conservatism:
“Edmund Burke
… was an Irish[4][5][6] statesman born in Dublin, as well as an author, orator, political theorist and philosopher, who after moving to London in 1750 served as a member of parliament (MP) between 1766 and 1794 in the House of Commons with the Whig Party.

In the nineteenth century, Burke was praised by both conservatives and liberals.[9] Subsequently, in the twentieth century he became widely regarded as the philosophical founder of modern conservatism.”
Edmund Burke - Wikipedia

I must point out that ‘liberal’ does not mean today, what it meant then, classical liberal, as in our Founders. The modern term ‘liberal’ refers to the name purloined by the Socialist Party, at the behest of communist John Dewey.
That's why the modern Liberal stands for the same things the Communist Party did.




One of Burke’s ideas was that the society as a whole can be counted on to make the right decision, elect the right individual:

“The individual is foolish; the multitude, for the moment, is foolish, when they act without deliberation; but the species is wise, and, when time is given to it, as a species it always acts right.”
But....that is not always the case.




3.Two of the factors that make it difficult for the voter to analyze objectively are

a. the absence of fair reporting by the media, which often is simply an outlet for Democrat press releases,

and

b. the fact that so many voters treat politics like sports, and simply root for their ‘team.’ And, having chosen their team, nearly all refuse to hear reasons why theirs was a flawed choice.





4. In light of some glaring mistakes by the voters, perhaps lacking the due diligence, perhaps misled by the media, Burke’s claim needs a tiny touch-up.

And, the man to do it is J.R. Bell….. America’s Favorite Sports Betting Expert” (America’s Favorite Sports Betting Expert
https://deadspin.com/how-america-s-favorite-sports-betting-expert-turned-a-s-1782438574)
.

In an interview on ESPN, Bell reminded bettors that, even the experts, professional gamblers, using their in depth knowledge of events, only expect to be right 60% of the time.


I’d hazard a bet that the same percentage applies to the candidates we elect.


5. We've had 45 Presidents......if 40% of the elected executives were a mistake......

...that's 18 who were wrongly elected.


What an interesting place to begin investigations!
can it about right or wrong, if we have recourse to an appeal to a majority?
 
While Buchanan is generally considered the worst President, making a deal with Taney on the Dred Scott decision,...

"With pressure from Buchanan, Grier, Catron and four other justices threw their support behind a decision that did what he had wanted, and created a broader policy legitimizing slavery while nullifying the Missouri Compromise which had prohibited slavery in some U.S. territories."
President James Buchanan Directly Influenced the Outcome of the Dred Scott Decision | Smart News | Smithsonian

I'd choose Franklin Delano Roosevelt as nose and nose with Buchanan.

1. Roosevelt offered up the lives of everyone in Eastern Europe to his lord and master, Joseph 'Koba' Stalin


2. He made certain that Stalin's plans continued after his death: the creation of the United Nations


3. He extended the Depression by years.


4. He disposed of the Constitution


5. He imposed Mussolini's Fascist policies and called it 'the New Deal


6. He turned over command of our military actions in WWII to Stalin, and cost multiple thousands of US soldiers' deaths.


7. He made certain that communism survived the war, and thrived afterwards.


8. Without his efforts, there would be no Red China, no Korean War, and no Vietnamese War


9. ...and he is the proximate explanation for the cultural Marxism prevalent in society today.


10. He was a racist and a bigot how wanted only those ‘with the right sort of blood.’ Sounds like a Nazis, huh?



Of course, if I had to pick a third, it would be the most destructive, divisive, collectivist, anti-white, anti-Christian, incompetent of Presidents....Barack Hussein Obama
 
5. We've had 45 Presidents......if 40% of the elected executives were a mistake......

...that's 18 who were wrongly elected.
but people will always disagree if it was a mistake or not
it's like '''is the cup half full or half empty?'''


The debate as to whom to award points is exhilarating, and an intellectual pursuit.

Dispositive is how the Left's acolytes try their hardest to shut down debate.


414aX-0cJUL._SX330_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg


What a joke.
You cowards don't even mention the influence and partisan hackery that Fox News has on the White House AND cable news in general.

Seven....count 'em, clowns......7 ex--Fox employees now work in the White House.

Larry Kudlow
  • Former Fox News anchor
Bill Shine
  • Former Fox News exec producer
John Bolton
  • Former Fox News contributor
Heather Nauert
  • Former correspondent and co-anchor on "The Big Story"
Mercedes Schlapp
  • Former Fox News contributor
Tony Sayegh
  • Former Fox News commentator
K.T. McFarland
  • Former Fox News contributor


    So spare us your bullshit about the Democratic media influence when the Republican media has them fucking embedded in the White House.
  • .
  • .
  • ..
  • OH! And let's not forget that Hick Hopes now works for Fox. And Sean Hannity talks to Trump every single day.
.


Oh please everything on television Is democrat commercial


.
 
I don't think most americansAbuy into the garbage the msm pedals. They also don't have the time to listen as they are busy working to barely scrape by. I always flip right past MSNBC CNN nbc and fox. The country leans right and that is in no danger. Trump will win in 2020. There is no threat from the left in my view to take the presidency.
 
While Buchanan is generally considered the worst President, making a deal with Taney on the Dred Scott decision,...

"With pressure from Buchanan, Grier, Catron and four other justices threw their support behind a decision that did what he had wanted, and created a broader policy legitimizing slavery while nullifying the Missouri Compromise which had prohibited slavery in some U.S. territories."
President James Buchanan Directly Influenced the Outcome of the Dred Scott Decision | Smart News | Smithsonian

I'd choose Franklin Delano Roosevelt as nose and nose with Buchanan.

1. Roosevelt offered up the lives of everyone in Eastern Europe to his lord and master, Joseph 'Koba' Stalin


2. He made certain that Stalin's plans continued after his death: the creation of the United Nations


3. He extended the Depression by years.


4. He disposed of the Constitution


5. He imposed Mussolini's Fascist policies and called it 'the New Deal


6. He turned over command of our military actions in WWII to Stalin, and cost multiple thousands of US soldiers' deaths.


7. He made certain that communism survived the war, and thrived afterwards.


8. Without his efforts, there would be no Red China, no Korean War, and no Vietnamese War


9. ...and he is the proximate explanation for the cultural Marxism prevalent in society today.


10. He was a racist and a bigot how wanted only those ‘with the right sort of blood.’ Sounds like a Nazis, huh?



Of course, if I had to pick a third, it would be the most destructive, divisive, collectivist, anti-white, anti-Christian, incompetent of Presidents....Barack Hussein Obama
States have no authority over entry into the Union since 1808. Natural born is the only requirement.
 

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