The ONE big mistake that Trump acolytes on this forum keep on making....

[NotfooledbyW]

Toddsterpatriot, post: 22117518,

Poor Obama.....he had a recession until June 2009. Waaaah.

What’s poor about Obama - you mean poor TrumpO - he had no recession, so no excuse to be adding private sector jobs at the same horrendously slow tepid pace as Obama.

What exactly is TrumpO’s excuse for doing nothing better than Obama?

• President Trump started with a distinct advantage with a workforce of 145.7 million, 9% larger than when President Obama took office.

Two Charts Show Trump's Job Gains Are Just A Continuation From Obama's Presidency

And what has TrumpO done with his advantage?

Nothing. The workforce is growing at damn near exactly the same pace under TrumpO as it did under Obama.

 

[sealybobo]

$1700 is not a lot. And over time our tax break goes away but the tax break for the rich stays.

Trump is a liar. He said exactly what I wanted to hear when he ran for president. He lied. I almost fell for it. I didn’t. You did.

Don’t try and tell me he didn’t lie. This lie is unforgivable. I don’t care about a wall he said rich people taxes would go up and he was more worried about the middle class. That was a lie. Stop sucking trumps dick

And over time our tax break goes away but the tax break for the rich stays.

You're right. Thanks to Dem assholes, the individual tax cuts, for everyone, are set to expire.
The Dems are free, of course, to introduce a bill to make them permanent. They won't.
I wonder why?

Because we need the money?

What we need is not more money, but, less spending...you know that as well as I do.

Until you realize the public wants to fund things like the special olympics.

Well, go read what Trump thinks about funding the Special Olympics, son.
Less spending, Silly, less spending. It's a hard concept for any politician, and democrat socialists.

Then he is a socialist. If republicans are right about government then we have no business funding the special Olympics. So you guys are hypocrites. It the program is popular then you pretend to be for it

Don’t act like only Betsy Devos wanted to cut funding to the special Olympics. Trump threw her under the bus but he told her to try and get those cuts done. If not she lied.

 

[Meister]

And over time our tax break goes away but the tax break for the rich stays.

You're right. Thanks to Dem assholes, the individual tax cuts, for everyone, are set to expire.
The Dems are free, of course, to introduce a bill to make them permanent. They won't.
I wonder why?

Because we need the money?

What we need is not more money, but, less spending...you know that as well as I do.

Until you realize the public wants to fund things like the special olympics.

Well, go read what Trump thinks about funding the Special Olympics, son.
Less spending, Silly, less spending. It's a hard concept for any politician, and democrat socialists.

Then he is a socialist. If republicans are right about government then we have no business funding the special Olympics. So you guys are hypocrites. It the program is popular then you pretend to be for it

Don’t act like only Betsy Devos wanted to cut funding to the special Olympics. Trump threw her under the bus but he told her to try and get those cuts done. If not she lied.

Don't say you guys....I'm not in any party.
Sounds like you just want to bitch about something, go ahead, but leave me out of it, son.
Have a good evening.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

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Toddsterpatriot, post: 22117518,

Poor Obama.....he had a recession until June 2009. Waaaah.

What’s poor about Obama - you mean poor TrumpO - he had no recession, so no excuse to be adding private sector jobs at the same horrendously slow tepid pace as Obama.

What exactly is TrumpO’s excuse for doing nothing better than Obama?

• President Trump started with a distinct advantage with a workforce of 145.7 million, 9% larger than when President Obama took office.

Two Charts Show Trump's Job Gains Are Just A Continuation From Obama's Presidency

And what has TrumpO done with his advantage?

Nothing. The workforce is growing at damn near exactly the same pace under TrumpO as it did under Obama.

What’s poor about Obama -

His weak-ass recovery. Even weaker than GHW Bush's.

Here's Reagan's recovery, from -6.1% in Q1-82 to +9.4% in Q2-83. 15.5%!
Makes your 6.23% for Obama look pretty lame, eh?

Real Gross Domestic Product | FRED | St. Louis Fed

 

[dudmuck]

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Toddsterpatriot, post: 22117518,

Poor Obama.....he had a recession until June 2009. Waaaah.

What’s poor about Obama - you mean poor TrumpO - he had no recession, so no excuse to be adding private sector jobs at the same horrendously slow tepid pace as Obama.

What exactly is TrumpO’s excuse for doing nothing better than Obama?

• President Trump started with a distinct advantage with a workforce of 145.7 million, 9% larger than when President Obama took office.

Two Charts Show Trump's Job Gains Are Just A Continuation From Obama's Presidency

And what has TrumpO done with his advantage?

Nothing. The workforce is growing at damn near exactly the same pace under TrumpO as it did under Obama.

What’s poor about Obama -

His weak-ass recovery. Even weaker than GHW Bush's.

Here's Reagan's recovery, from -6.1% in Q1-82 to +9.4% in Q2-83. 15.5%!
Makes your 6.23% for Obama look pretty lame, eh?

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Real Gross Domestic Product | FRED | St. Louis Fed

Reagan didnt have the worst recession since the great Depression.
Reagan didnt have a congress obstructing everything.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

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Toddsterpatriot, post: 22117518,

Poor Obama.....he had a recession until June 2009. Waaaah.

What’s poor about Obama - you mean poor TrumpO - he had no recession, so no excuse to be adding private sector jobs at the same horrendously slow tepid pace as Obama.

What exactly is TrumpO’s excuse for doing nothing better than Obama?

• President Trump started with a distinct advantage with a workforce of 145.7 million, 9% larger than when President Obama took office.

Two Charts Show Trump's Job Gains Are Just A Continuation From Obama's Presidency

And what has TrumpO done with his advantage?

Nothing. The workforce is growing at damn near exactly the same pace under TrumpO as it did under Obama.

What’s poor about Obama -

His weak-ass recovery. Even weaker than GHW Bush's.

Here's Reagan's recovery, from -6.1% in Q1-82 to +9.4% in Q2-83. 15.5%!
Makes your 6.23% for Obama look pretty lame, eh?

View attachment 253369

Real Gross Domestic Product | FRED | St. Louis Fed

Reagan didnt have the worst recession since the great Depression.
Reagan didnt have a congress obstructing everything.

Reagan didnt have the worst recession since the great Depression.

Neither did Obama, it ended by June 2009.
You're not going to claim he fixed it within 5 months, are you?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

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Toddsterpatriot, post: 22117518,

Poor Obama.....he had a recession until June 2009. Waaaah.

What’s poor about Obama - you mean poor TrumpO - he had no recession, so no excuse to be adding private sector jobs at the same horrendously slow tepid pace as Obama.

What exactly is TrumpO’s excuse for doing nothing better than Obama?

• President Trump started with a distinct advantage with a workforce of 145.7 million, 9% larger than when President Obama took office.

Two Charts Show Trump's Job Gains Are Just A Continuation From Obama's Presidency

And what has TrumpO done with his advantage?

Nothing. The workforce is growing at damn near exactly the same pace under TrumpO as it did under Obama.

What’s poor about Obama -

His weak-ass recovery. Even weaker than GHW Bush's.

Here's Reagan's recovery, from -6.1% in Q1-82 to +9.4% in Q2-83. 15.5%!
Makes your 6.23% for Obama look pretty lame, eh?

View attachment 253369

Real Gross Domestic Product | FRED | St. Louis Fed

Reagan didnt have the worst recession since the great Depression.
Reagan didnt have a congress obstructing everything.

Reagan didnt have a congress obstructing everything.

Dems controlled both House and Senate when Obama took office.

 

[dudmuck]

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Toddsterpatriot, post: 22117518,

Poor Obama.....he had a recession until June 2009. Waaaah.

What’s poor about Obama - you mean poor TrumpO - he had no recession, so no excuse to be adding private sector jobs at the same horrendously slow tepid pace as Obama.

What exactly is TrumpO’s excuse for doing nothing better than Obama?

• President Trump started with a distinct advantage with a workforce of 145.7 million, 9% larger than when President Obama took office.

Two Charts Show Trump's Job Gains Are Just A Continuation From Obama's Presidency

And what has TrumpO done with his advantage?

Nothing. The workforce is growing at damn near exactly the same pace under TrumpO as it did under Obama.

What’s poor about Obama -

His weak-ass recovery. Even weaker than GHW Bush's.

Here's Reagan's recovery, from -6.1% in Q1-82 to +9.4% in Q2-83. 15.5%!
Makes your 6.23% for Obama look pretty lame, eh?

View attachment 253369

Real Gross Domestic Product | FRED | St. Louis Fed

Reagan didnt have the worst recession since the great Depression.
Reagan didnt have a congress obstructing everything.

Reagan didnt have the worst recession since the great Depression.

Neither did Obama, it ended by June 2009.
You're not going to claim he fixed it within 5 months, are you?

The 1981-1982 recession had GDP dropping 2.7 percent.
The 2007-2009 recession had GDP dropping 5.1 percent.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

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Toddsterpatriot, post: 22117518,

Poor Obama.....he had a recession until June 2009. Waaaah.

What’s poor about Obama - you mean poor TrumpO - he had no recession, so no excuse to be adding private sector jobs at the same horrendously slow tepid pace as Obama.

What exactly is TrumpO’s excuse for doing nothing better than Obama?

• President Trump started with a distinct advantage with a workforce of 145.7 million, 9% larger than when President Obama took office.

Two Charts Show Trump's Job Gains Are Just A Continuation From Obama's Presidency

And what has TrumpO done with his advantage?

Nothing. The workforce is growing at damn near exactly the same pace under TrumpO as it did under Obama.

What’s poor about Obama -

His weak-ass recovery. Even weaker than GHW Bush's.

Here's Reagan's recovery, from -6.1% in Q1-82 to +9.4% in Q2-83. 15.5%!
Makes your 6.23% for Obama look pretty lame, eh?

View attachment 253369

Real Gross Domestic Product | FRED | St. Louis Fed

Reagan didnt have the worst recession since the great Depression.
Reagan didnt have a congress obstructing everything.

Reagan didnt have the worst recession since the great Depression.

Neither did Obama, it ended by June 2009.
You're not going to claim he fixed it within 5 months, are you?

The 1981-1982 recession had GDP dropping 2.7 percent.
The 2007-2009 recession had GDP dropping 5.1 percent.

The 2007-2009 recession had GDP dropping 5.1 percent.

And it ended 5 months into Obama's term.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

The 2007-2009 recession had GDP dropping 5.1 percent.

And it ended 5 months into Obama's term

Yes and when it ended the US workforce was 9% smaller than when TrumpO took over. And you insist we compare Trumpo’s handling of the economy as equals.

People out of work don’t have the money to spend and invest to produce a higher GDP yet Obama’s annualized GDP is quite close to Trumpo’s thus far. And the latter may yet put us into a recession with massive debt added.

 

[sparky]

Economies manifest and come to fruition due to legislative interconnectabilities said/done years if not decades before results are evident , ergo this continual effort to 'pin current' stats on any sitting administration is sophomoric and misleading ~S~

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

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The 2007-2009 recession had GDP dropping 5.1 percent.

And it ended 5 months into Obama's term

Yes and when it ended the US workforce was 9% smaller than when TrumpO took over. And you insist we compare Trumpo’s handling of the economy as equals.

People out of work don’t have the money to spend and invest to produce a higher GDP yet Obama’s annualized GDP is quite close to Trumpo’s thus far. And the latter may yet put us into a recession with massive debt added.

So tell me again about Obama's strong recovery. DERP!

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Toddsterpatriot, post: 22119059

So tell me again about Obama's strong recovery. DERP!

I’m looking at the comparison between Trumpo and Obama. Whatever you decide to call them you should call them pretty much the same,

If Trumpo’s is strong, so was Obama’s. The statistic that matters most to most people who work is the unemployment rate.

Do you see the unemployment curve at the top? Can you see a noticeable change in employment growth / trajectory since TrumpO took over the economy from Obama?


Nope - the same - unchanged.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

View attachment 253431 Toddsterpatriot, post: 22119059

So tell me again about Obama's strong recovery. DERP!

I’m looking at the comparison between Trumpo and Obama. Whatever you decide to call them you should call them pretty much the same,

If Trumpo’s is strong, so was Obama’s. The statistic that matters most to most people who work is the unemployment rate.

Do you see the unemployment curve at the top? Can you see a noticeable change in employment growth / trajectory since TrumpO took over the economy from Obama?


Nope - the same - unchanged.

I’m looking at the comparison between Trumpo and Obama.

We already did that. You admitted Obama's GDP growth was weaker than Trump's.
You also saw GHW Bush's recovery was stronger. And Reagan's was much MUCH stronger.

The statistic that matters most to most people who work is the unemployment rate.

Okay. What was Obama's average unemployment rate?
What was Trump's average?

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Toddsterpatriot, post: 22120442,

Okay. What was Obama's average unemployment rate?
What was Trump's average?

Glad you asked TrumpRump:

Obama Total nonfarm employment average monthly gain = 217,009.

TrumpO Total nonfarm employment average monthly gain = 199,000

• Employment — Total nonfarm employment grew by nearly 4.6 million during the president’s first 23 months in office, according to the most recent figures available from the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
• That continued an unbroken chain of monthly gains in total employment that started eight years earlier, in October 2010.
• December saw an unusually large gain of 312,000, bringing the average monthly gain under Trump to 199,000. But that’s still less than the average monthly gain of 217,000 during Obama’s second term.

Trump's Numbers January 2019 Update - FactCheck.org


Trumpo is losing to Obama already and his best days are likely gone.

A for instance Headline:

Just 20,000 jobs added in February as hiring slows, unemployment drops in latest report

PAUL DAVIDSON | USA TODAY | 4:07 pm EDT March 10, 2019

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Toddsterpatriot, post: 22120442,

Okay. What was Obama's average unemployment rate?
What was Trump's average?

Glad you asked TrumpRump:

Obama Total nonfarm employment average monthly gain = 217,009.

TrumpO Total nonfarm employment average monthly gain = 199,000

• Employment — Total nonfarm employment grew by nearly 4.6 million during the president’s first 23 months in office, according to the most recent figures available from the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
• That continued an unbroken chain of monthly gains in total employment that started eight years earlier, in October 2010.
• December saw an unusually large gain of 312,000, bringing the average monthly gain under Trump to 199,000. But that’s still less than the average monthly gain of 217,000 during Obama’s second term.

Trump's Numbers January 2019 Update - FactCheck.org


Trumpo is losing to Obama already and his best days are likely gone.

A for instance Headline:

Just 20,000 jobs added in February as hiring slows, unemployment drops in latest report

PAUL DAVIDSON | USA TODAY | 4:07 pm EDT March 10, 2019

Obama Total nonfarm employment average monthly gain = 217,009.


That's awesome!!! DURR.

Now, back to my questions.....

What was Obama's average unemployment rate?
What was Trump's average?​

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Toddsterpatriot, post: 22123014

Obama Total nonfarm employment average monthly gain = 217,009.

That's awesome!! DURR

TrumPo’s nonfarm employment average monthly gain is so far at 199,000 is lower than awesome. Why do you think Trumpo’s economy is better than Obama’s economy.

Unemployment dropped under Obama from 10.0 October 2009 to 4.7 December 2016 over 87 months.

That is an average of 0.0540 % reduction per month.

Unemployment dropped under Trumpo from 4.7 January 2017 to 3.8 February 2019 over 26 months.

That is an average of 0.0346 % reduction per month.

Obama wins again on reduction of unemployment per month.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Toddsterpatriot, post: 22123014

Obama Total nonfarm employment average monthly gain = 217,009.

That's awesome!! DURR

TrumPo’s nonfarm employment average monthly gain is so far at 199,000 is lower than awesome. Why do you think Trumpo’s economy is better than Obama’s economy.

Unemployment dropped under Obama from 10.0 October 2009 to 4.7 December 2016 over 87 months.

That is an average of 0.0540 % reduction per month.

Unemployment dropped under Trumpo from 4.7 January 2017 to 3.8 February 2019 over 26 months.

That is an average of 0.0346 % reduction per month.

Obama wins again on reduction of unemployment per month.

Unemployment dropped under Obama from 10.0 October 2009 to 4.7 December 2016 over 87 months.

Wow! What was his average?

Unemployment dropped under Trumpo from 4.7 January 2017 to 3.8 February 2019 over 26 months. ​

Hmmmm….looks like Trump's average is probably lower.
​

Obama wins again on reduction of unemployment per month.​

You said the most important thing was the rate, why can't you just say Trump's rate is lower?
​

Why do you think Trumpo’s economy is better than Obama’s economy.​

Why would I disagree with the only correct thing I've seen you post?

​

 

[JBond]

Somehow (being poorly educated as Trump clearly stated about his followers).....cult members on this forum make the mistake of "thinking" that the obvious majority of right wingers on here represents ALL of America.....of course, they're clearly wrong.

If there still exists some semblance of rationale among this right wing ilk, they should ask themselves what ARE the chances that someone like Trump could get re-elected in such states as Ohio, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and a few others....where there has been more than half a million factory workers are now working part-time, menial jobs having had those industries closed???

Sure, working one or two and even three part-time jobs makes one "employed".......but reality that Trump's promises were based on demagoguery has finally materialized.

Lol. Obama and his clowns will have reprucsions for decades. Obama had zero ideas other than big government must be the answer. He was a fucking idiot.

 

[JBond]

Obama and his clowns will have reprucsions for decades. Obama had zero ideas other than big government must be the answer. He was a fucking idiot.

WOW, Obama had "reprucsions ".........Do you think that an orange tanning salon could cure that???

Hey little buddy. Sorry for the typo. Try again. Assuming you are a female now.