The Occupied Territories Are the Biggest Prison on Earth

[JoelT1]

Lake Success, Feb. 6 – The Arab Higher Committee of Palestine sent to the United Nations a formal declaration of war in “self-defense” against any attempt to partition the Holy Land.

It is the right of the Palestinians to decide whether or not to divide their country. They decided not to like every other people in the world would do.

Palestine originated as a Roman name for ancient Israel, referring to Philistines who were Greek

Palestinians are a modern invention. They’re simply Arabs among 22 Arab countries. They’ve never had a country

Yeah, yeah, I have heard those tired old Israeli talking points a gazillion times already.

What else you got?

Professor Bernard Lewis, Dean of Middle East historians: When Jews were first called “palestinians”

 

[rylah]

BTW, independent from what?BTW, independent from what?
(RESPONSE) Just as all the other surrounding states. The Right of Sovereignty and Independence (from what is an invalid question).

Well then who did they fight in their "war of independence?"

1517 Sefad.
1660 Tiberias
1660 Sefad
1834 Sefad
1838 Sefad
1840 Damascus
1850 Aleppo
1860 Damascus

The same Arabs and Turks with their pogroms against Jews in Syria-Palestine.
It was of course mixed with fighting the British occupation that banned many Jews who tried to flee Europe.

 

[rylah]

I'm copying this once again just to make it harder for Tinmore to evade the issue:

The idea of "Arab independence" in Palestine was initiated in Mecca, Saudi Arabia by
Hussein bin Ali, Sharif of Mecca. And later his son King Faisal of Iraq.

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"External interference" doesn't have any significance when Palestinian Arabs are divided between different Arabian tribes and identify with it openly. Like the case of the Tamimi tribe (the ruling Qatari tribe) in Hebron.

Q. So Tinmore, why did Arabs in Palestine recognize a foreign Arabian rule?
Q. Why exchange "free Palestine" for foreign Arabian king in Damascus?

 

[JoelT1]

I'm copying this once again just to make it harder for Tinmore to evade the issue:

The idea of "Arab independence" in Palestine was initiated in Mecca, Saudi Arabia by
Hussein bin Ali, Sharif of Mecca. And later his son King Faisal of Iraq.

.
"External interference" doesn't have any significance when Palestinian Arabs are divided between different Arabian tribes and identify with it openly. Like the case of the Tamimi tribe (the ruling Qatari tribe) in Hebron.

Q. So Tinmore, why did Arabs in Palestine recognize a foreign Arabian rule?
Q. Why exchange "free Palestine" for foreign Arabian king in Damascus?

Sorry to interrupt, but he’s obviously a troll

 

[flacaltenn]

Arab-American journalist Joseph Farah: Myths of palestine and palestinians Myths of the Middle East

Guess Yassir Arafat got the name wrong for the PLO then.

 

[jillian]

Not only open air, but at times, and nowadays in Gaza, a maximum-security prison. Recently, the Israeli government officially celebrated the 50th anniversary of the liberation of Jerusalem, Judea and Samaria. Already in 1967, Judea and Samaria, namely the West Bank, were liberated areas, not territories to be held in custody for the return of a peace agreement, in the eyes of all the Zionist parties, while Gaza was seen as an enclave that had to be always guarded either from within or without.

Thus in 1967, the Israeli government then -- and all the successive governments since -- regarded the West Bank and the Gaza Strip as territories that had always be under either direct or indirect Israeli rule. The second decision was that the people who live in these territories will not be granted Israeli citizenship, nor were they allowed to have their own sovereignty or independence. They were also not driven out, as were the Palestinians in 1948. So, they were intentionally defined as people without citizen rights and at the mercy of first military rule, and then civil administration that did not only violate their civic rights, but also their human rights. The only system I know where people are deprived of these basic rights is the prison system. These people were incarcerated in this mega-prison for no other crime than being Palestinians. They were allowed some benefits, such as working in Israel and a limited measure of autonomy if they consented to such life -- this is the open prison model, and they were collectively punished when they resisted, and this is the maximum-security prison.

The Occupied Territories Are the Biggest Prison on Earth

Any war that could have been prevented by active and intensive diplomacy is a war of choice.

your ignorances and anti-semitic lunacy are duly noted

Shhhhh! About that ‘humanitarian’ crisis in Gaza…

 

[rylah]

Meanwhile in prison Palestine...Luxury Cars Showrooms

Jaguar Showroom Palestine - Ramallah

Service and Parts - El Bireh
Jaguar Owners Servicing | Service & Warranties | Jaguar Palestine

 

[JoelT1]

Arab-American journalist Joseph Farah: Myths of palestine and palestinians Myths of the Middle East

Guess Yassir Arafat got the name wrong for the PLO then.

Arafat was Egyptian!

 

[flacaltenn]

Arab-American journalist Joseph Farah: Myths of palestine and palestinians Myths of the Middle East

Guess Yassir Arafat got the name wrong for the PLO then.

Arafat was Egyptian!

Is that why he formed the Palestine LO ?? It may ACADEMICALLY be a no-no. But I think the term has been adopted in common usage. Hence the "Palestinian Authority" You may be TECHNICALLY correct. But the movements NEEDED an identity. So apparently -- they "borrowed" one.

 

[JoelT1]

Gaza Olympic swimming team Heart-breaking! LOL

 

[JoelT1]

Arab-American journalist Joseph Farah: Myths of palestine and palestinians Myths of the Middle East

Guess Yassir Arafat got the name wrong for the PLO then.

Arafat was Egyptian!

Is that why he formed the Palestine LO ?? It may ACADEMICALLY be a no-no. But I think the term has been adopted in common usage. Hence the "Palestinian Authority" You may be TECHNICALLY correct. But the movements NEEDED an identity. So apparently -- they "borrowed" one.

Common “palestinian” surnames: al-Masri “the Egyptian, al-Iraqi, Maghrebi (N. Africa) But, nobody named al-Palestini LOL

 

[fanger]

Not only open air, but at times, and nowadays in Gaza, a maximum-security prison. Recently, the Israeli government officially celebrated the 50th anniversary of the liberation of Jerusalem, Judea and Samaria. Already in 1967, Judea and Samaria, namely the West Bank, were liberated areas, not territories to be held in custody for the return of a peace agreement, in the eyes of all the Zionist parties, while Gaza was seen as an enclave that had to be always guarded either from within or without.

Thus in 1967, the Israeli government then -- and all the successive governments since -- regarded the West Bank and the Gaza Strip as territories that had always be under either direct or indirect Israeli rule. The second decision was that the people who live in these territories will not be granted Israeli citizenship, nor were they allowed to have their own sovereignty or independence. They were also not driven out, as were the Palestinians in 1948. So, they were intentionally defined as people without citizen rights and at the mercy of first military rule, and then civil administration that did not only violate their civic rights, but also their human rights. The only system I know where people are deprived of these basic rights is the prison system. These people were incarcerated in this mega-prison for no other crime than being Palestinians. They were allowed some benefits, such as working in Israel and a limited measure of autonomy if they consented to such life -- this is the open prison model, and they were collectively punished when they resisted, and this is the maximum-security prison.

The Occupied Territories Are the Biggest Prison on Earth

Any war that could have been prevented by active and intensive diplomacy is a war of choice.

your ignorances and anti-semitic lunacy are duly noted

Shhhhh! About that ‘humanitarian’ crisis in Gaza…

The IDF on Thursday removed from its blog a photograph of a Malaysian mall that it had incorrectly labeled as the Gaza Mall in Gaza City.

“It was an innocent mistake,” the IDF said in response. “The picture was removed when we learned [of the error].”

IDF removes fake photo of Gaza mall from blog

Also the photo of the piano in the hotel lobby, thats the Grand Palace hotel Guangzhou China

 

[fanger]

Meanwhile in prison Palestine...Luxury Cars Showrooms

Jaguar Showroom Palestine - Ramallah

Service and Parts - El Bireh
Jaguar Owners Servicing | Service & Warranties | Jaguar Palestine

Jaguar-Palestine.com WHOIS, DNS, & Domain Info - DomainTools
The name is registered to
Registrant Organization: Jaguar Land Rover Limited
Registrant Street: Banbury Road
Registrant City: Warwick EN
Registrant State/Province:
Registrant Postal Code: CV35 0RG
Registrant Country: GB

Not someone in Palestine

 

[fanger]

Common “palestinian” surnames: al-Masri “the Egyptian, al-Iraqi, Maghrebi (N. Africa) But, nobody named al-Palestini LOL

What are some common "israeli" names, Feldman, Shapiro, Fridman, Rabinovich, Brodsky, Zaslavsky, Kogan, Reznik, Kats, Goldshtein, Grinberg, Kaplan.? nah there all Russian

 

[rylah]

Common “palestinian” surnames: al-Masri “the Egyptian, al-Iraqi, Maghrebi (N. Africa) But, nobody named al-Palestini LOL

What are some common "israeli" names, Feldman, Shapiro, Fridman, Rabinovich, Brodsky, Zaslavsky, Kogan, Reznik, Kats, Goldshtein, Grinberg, Kaplan.? nah there all Russian

No Russian will claim Rabinovic, Friedman and Kogan are Russian surnames. All Jewish, with roots in Hebrew.

Now to the facts:
The most common surnames in Israel are still Cohen, Levi and Mizrahi. Followed by Perez, Biton, Dahan, Avraham, Malka, Azoulay, Amar, Hadad ,Gabay.

Ynetnews Culture - What are most common surnames in Israel?

 

[rylah]

Meanwhile in prison Palestine...Luxury Cars Showrooms

Jaguar Showroom Palestine - Ramallah

Service and Parts - El Bireh
Jaguar Owners Servicing | Service & Warranties | Jaguar Palestine

Jaguar-Palestine.com WHOIS, DNS, & Domain Info - DomainTools
The name is registered to
Registrant Organization: Jaguar Land Rover Limited
Registrant Street: Banbury Road
Registrant City: Warwick EN
Registrant State/Province:
Registrant Postal Code: CV35 0RG
Registrant Country: GB

Not someone in Palestine

So what? You're delusional - the address of the physical locations are in the West Bank (Ramallah).


It still says:
Jaguar Luxury Sedan, Sports & 4x4 Cars | Jaguar Palestine and gives 2 addressed in Ramallah and Al-Bireh

Do prisons in the US have Luxury Car Showrooms as well??

 

[flacaltenn]

OK.. If "team Palestine" won't a start a thread about life in the "occupied territories" -- maybe someone else should. Because it's also about the good. And personally, I think it helps break out of the conflict mode and the centurys old arguments and starts to get folks thinking about the present and the future.

VICE network is particularly good at this. They do stories about life in Palestine that are for the most part UPlifting and realistic about the abuse as well..

Learned a lot from a Fashion Travelogue about Palestinians.

See if it you can stream this episode on line.

 

[Roudy]

Meanwhile in prison Palestine...Luxury Cars Showrooms

Jaguar Showroom Palestine - Ramallah

Service and Parts - El Bireh
Jaguar Owners Servicing | Service & Warranties | Jaguar Palestine

Just Jaguars?! What kind of prison is this that doesn't have Bentley's?!

 

[Roudy]

Gaza Olympic swimming team Heart-breaking! LOL

I hope they waited an hour for the Shwarma to get digested before they went in the water!

 

[Roudy]

Not only open air, but at times, and nowadays in Gaza, a maximum-security prison. Recently, the Israeli government officially celebrated the 50th anniversary of the liberation of Jerusalem, Judea and Samaria. Already in 1967, Judea and Samaria, namely the West Bank, were liberated areas, not territories to be held in custody for the return of a peace agreement, in the eyes of all the Zionist parties, while Gaza was seen as an enclave that had to be always guarded either from within or without.

Thus in 1967, the Israeli government then -- and all the successive governments since -- regarded the West Bank and the Gaza Strip as territories that had always be under either direct or indirect Israeli rule. The second decision was that the people who live in these territories will not be granted Israeli citizenship, nor were they allowed to have their own sovereignty or independence. They were also not driven out, as were the Palestinians in 1948. So, they were intentionally defined as people without citizen rights and at the mercy of first military rule, and then civil administration that did not only violate their civic rights, but also their human rights. The only system I know where people are deprived of these basic rights is the prison system. These people were incarcerated in this mega-prison for no other crime than being Palestinians. They were allowed some benefits, such as working in Israel and a limited measure of autonomy if they consented to such life -- this is the open prison model, and they were collectively punished when they resisted, and this is the maximum-security prison.

The Occupied Territories Are the Biggest Prison on Earth

Any war that could have been prevented by active and intensive diplomacy is a war of choice.

your ignorances and anti-semitic lunacy are duly noted

Shhhhh! About that ‘humanitarian’ crisis in Gaza…

The IDF on Thursday removed from its blog a photograph of a Malaysian mall that it had incorrectly labeled as the Gaza Mall in Gaza City.

“It was an innocent mistake,” the IDF said in response. “The picture was removed when we learned [of the error].”

IDF removes fake photo of Gaza mall from blog

Also the photo of the piano in the hotel lobby, thats the Grand Palace hotel Guangzhou China

No sweat, Sponge Bob Fanger Pants, even an anti-Israel Leftie propaganda magazine like WAPO cannot deny the truth:

Gaza Strip’s middle class enjoys spin classes, fine dining, private beaches

Epic fail.