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[Rigby5]

And there is no evidence of anyone being there before them.

Link?

{...
Key Points

• Nomadic Bedouin tribes dominated the Arabian Peninsula before the rise of Islam.
• Family groups called clans formed larger tribal units, which reinforced family cooperation in the difficult living conditions on the Arabian peninsula and protected its members against other tribes.
• The Bedouin tribes were nomadic pastoralists who relied on their herds of goats, sheep, and camels for meat, milk, cheese, blood, fur/wool, and other sustenance.
• The pre-Islamic Bedouins also hunted, served as bodyguards, escorted caravans, worked as mercenaries, and traded or raided to gain animals, women, gold, fabric, and other luxury items.
• Arab tribes begin to appear in the south Syrian deserts and southern Jordan around 200 CE, but spread from the central Arabian Peninsula after the rise of Islam in the 630s CE.

Key Terms

• Nabatean: an ancient Semitic people who inhabited northern Arabia and Southern Levant, ca. 37–100 CE.
• Bedouin: a predominantly desert-dwelling Arabian ethnic group traditionally divided into tribes or clans.

...}

Pre-Islamic Arabia | Boundless World History

courses.lumenlearning.com

You will also notice from the Land of Canaan, that originally being nomadic, Arabs do not harm or prevent others from moving in, as the Canaanites allowed the Urites, Amorites, Chaldeans, Phoenicians, Philistines, Nabateans, etc., to peacefully settle into the Land of Canaan.

 

[Rigby5]

compared to 12 million indigenous Arabs.

Arabs indigenous to anywhere other than Arabia?

LOL!

That is VERY ignorant, as not only did the Arabs in Arabia come via Palestine, from Africa, but Hebrew were Arabs.

Except that Hebrews already had a thriving civilization for a thousand years,
when Arabs were still illiterate and buriying their daughters alive in the deserts of Arabia.

That is nonsense.
Arabs go back over 10,000 years in Palestine, like the Canaanites in Jericho.
There is no history of Hebrew at all until they invaded Palestine around 1000 BC.

Arabs like the Amorites were literate over a thousand years before the Hebrew created a written script for Hebrew around 100 BC. Why do you think the Dead Sea Scrolls are mostly in Aramaic?

Again, the Arabian Peninsula is NOT where Arabs came from. The came from Africa, and slowly migrated to Arabia, via Palestine.

And the whole point of Mohammad reforming Judaism to Islam was to increase the rights of women.

Yeah, but why only 10,000?

For millions of years, Palestinozaur Rex was freely roaming the mountains of Narnia,
until Jews arrived from Venus and made him a cornivor, everyone knows that.

{...
First city
...
6500 BCE
Jericho is the first major walled city, with a population of about 2,500.
...}

The Ancient City

In the study of the ancient world a City is generally defined as a large populated urban center of commerce and administration with a system of laws and, usually, regulated means of sanitation. This...

www.ancient.eu

.

Not only wwre the Canaanites the first in Palestine, but they built the first city ever, anywhere.
The Hebrew left not a trace of building, history, or writing until after about 1000 BC when they invaded the Land of Canaan.
In fact, most Hebrew spoke and wrote in the Arab Aramaic until around 100 BC.

And as a proof you bring up Jericho,
a city with a Hebrew name?

Priceless.

That is ignorant.
Jericho is NOT a Hebrew name.
Nor is Jerusalem.
They predate the Hebrew invasion by thousands of years.
Jews got their name from Jerusalem, not the other way around.
And both names came originally from the ancient Canaanite word for the river Jordan and its fertile valleys.
{... Etymology. Jericho's name in Hebrew, Yeriẖo, is generally thought to derive from the Canaanite word reaẖ ("fragrant") ...}
Everything Hebrew is likely of Canaanite or some other Arab source.
Hebrew is just a derivative of the original Arab language.

Potato patatoe...
We can argue who adopted who's language,
Canaanites, Hebrews, or that they're one and the same.

But we can surely say their language was NOT of an "Arab source"
because Arabs themselves were still illiterate for another 1000 years...

No we can not at all argue who adopted who's language.
We have hard evidence of advanced Canaanite civilization, architecture, language, etc., over 5000 years before we begin to see a trace of Hebrew existence.

And no, Arab script predates Hebrew script by over 1000 years at least.
{...
was written in a script derived from the Phoenician alphabet. Aramaic is thought to have first appeared among the Aramaeans about the late 11th century bce. By the 8th century bce it had become accepted by the Assyrians as a second language.
...}

I think you are still incorrectly calling the Arabian Peninsula as the origin of Arabs, and it is not.
Arabs originated in the Land of Canaan.
There is not a single anthropologists who believes otherwise.
Why else would they define the word "Semitic" are to belonging to an Arab language group.
It does not mean Jewish as all.
Jews and Hebrew are only Semitic because they also are of Arab origins.

Think about it.
We now all know Africa is the source of all humans.
And which would come first, walking through the Land of Canaan, or building ships to cross over to the Arabian Peninsula?

I see, so based on the theory that humanity originated in Africa,
at some magic point when crossing into Canaan, Africans yet not Arabs turned into Canaanites yet not Arabs, and only when these migrating African-Canaanites yet not Arabs, arrived in the Arabian desert did these African - Canaanite - yet not Arabs become Arabs, turning everyone backwards into Arabs as well?

Yeah, Africans are Arabs, all humanity is Arab,
including Alexander Macedonian who was also a Muslim...

And Palestinians, they're of course Arabs, that is "African-Canaanite" Arabs (ver.2.0),
but of all people on the planet they can't pronounce "Palestine"...



whoa...

Q. So to sum up -

that of all people, Arabs can't pronounce 'P'-alestine,
is the proof they're original Palestinians?

Wrong.
Arabs clearly originated in the Land of Canaan.
It can be traced through language and culture.
We can also trace the Arabian Peninsula as later being used as pasture for nomadic herding Arabs.
The fact Land of Canaan was over run and later dominated by other non-Arab groups, does not alter the fact the Land of Canaan is where the language and culture we call Arab, originated.

Anyone claiming the Arabian Peninsula was the origin of Arab culture has to obviously be wrong because the language and culture clear appeared thousands of years earlier and in more advanced stages than ever happened later on the Arabian Peninsula.

The fact Victorian archeologists did not know this and called them Arabs from the Arabian Peninsula, is irrelevant. We do know now that they orginated from the Land of Canaan.

 

[Rigby5]

The word Palestine is properly pronounced with a soft 'F" instead of a hard 'P'.

{...
Indeed, there is no hard P sound in Arabic, but there is a softer F, and Palestinians pronounce the name of their would-be state as “Falastin” (fah-leh-STEEN) — as do most Hebrew-speaking Israelis.
...}

Just look at the word Phoenician.
Falistine is nearly identical in phoenetics.

And if your attempt was to claim Hebrew influence in the name Palestine, you can't, because Hebrew also has no hard P, and instead also used the soft F, because Hebrew is of Arab origins.

 

[rylah]

And there is no evidence of anyone being there before them.

Link?

{...
Key Points

• Nomadic Bedouin tribes dominated the Arabian Peninsula before the rise of Islam.
• Family groups called clans formed larger tribal units, which reinforced family cooperation in the difficult living conditions on the Arabian peninsula and protected its members against other tribes.
• The Bedouin tribes were nomadic pastoralists who relied on their herds of goats, sheep, and camels for meat, milk, cheese, blood, fur/wool, and other sustenance.
• The pre-Islamic Bedouins also hunted, served as bodyguards, escorted caravans, worked as mercenaries, and traded or raided to gain animals, women, gold, fabric, and other luxury items.
• Arab tribes begin to appear in the south Syrian deserts and southern Jordan around 200 CE, but spread from the central Arabian Peninsula after the rise of Islam in the 630s CE.

Key Terms

• Nabatean: an ancient Semitic people who inhabited northern Arabia and Southern Levant, ca. 37–100 CE.
• Bedouin: a predominantly desert-dwelling Arabian ethnic group traditionally divided into tribes or clans.

...}

Pre-Islamic Arabia | Boundless World History

courses.lumenlearning.com

You will also notice from the Land of Canaan, that originally being nomadic, Arabs do not harm or prevent others from moving in, as the Canaanites allowed the Urites, Amorites, Chaldeans, Phoenicians, Philistines, Nabateans, etc., to peacefully settle into the Land of Canaan.

Burst your bubble,
Arabic is not even mentioned, it's a foreign language.

Canaanite languages, group of Northern Central or Northwestern Semitic languages including Hebrew, Moabite, Phoenician, and Punic. They were spoken in ancient times in Palestine, on the coast of Syria, and in scattered colonies elsewhere around the Mediterranean. An early form of Canaanite is attested in the Tell el-Amarna letters (c. 1400 BC). Moabite, which is very close to Hebrew, is known chiefly from one inscription dating from the 8th century BC. The only living Canaanite language is Hebrew, which was revived as a spoken language in the 19th and 20th centuries.

Canaanite languages | Semitic, Ancient Near East, Phoenician

Canaanite languages, group of Northern Central or Northwestern Semitic languages including Hebrew, Moabite, Phoenician, and Punic. They were spoken in ancient times in Palestine, on the coast of Syria, and in scattered colonies elsewhere around the Mediterranean. An early form of Canaanite is

www.britannica.com

 

[rylah]

The word Palestine is properly pronounced with a soft 'F" instead of a hard 'P'.

{...
Indeed, there is no hard P sound in Arabic, but there is a softer F, and Palestinians pronounce the name of their would-be state as “Falastin” (fah-leh-STEEN) — as do most Hebrew-speaking Israelis.
...}

Just look at the word Phoenician.
Falistine is nearly identical in phoenetics.

And if your attempt was to claim Hebrew influence in the name Palestine, you can't, because Hebrew also has no hard P, and instead also used the soft F, because Hebrew is of Arab origins.

Nope,

Hebrew deffinately has a hard 'P' sound, as much as any of the Canaanite dialects.
Arabs can't pronounce 'P-alestine' because they speak a foreign language.

That's it.

 

[Rigby5]

And there is no evidence of anyone being there before them.

Link?

{...
Key Points

• Nomadic Bedouin tribes dominated the Arabian Peninsula before the rise of Islam.
• Family groups called clans formed larger tribal units, which reinforced family cooperation in the difficult living conditions on the Arabian peninsula and protected its members against other tribes.
• The Bedouin tribes were nomadic pastoralists who relied on their herds of goats, sheep, and camels for meat, milk, cheese, blood, fur/wool, and other sustenance.
• The pre-Islamic Bedouins also hunted, served as bodyguards, escorted caravans, worked as mercenaries, and traded or raided to gain animals, women, gold, fabric, and other luxury items.
• Arab tribes begin to appear in the south Syrian deserts and southern Jordan around 200 CE, but spread from the central Arabian Peninsula after the rise of Islam in the 630s CE.

Key Terms

• Nabatean: an ancient Semitic people who inhabited northern Arabia and Southern Levant, ca. 37–100 CE.
• Bedouin: a predominantly desert-dwelling Arabian ethnic group traditionally divided into tribes or clans.

...}

Pre-Islamic Arabia | Boundless World History

courses.lumenlearning.com

You will also notice from the Land of Canaan, that originally being nomadic, Arabs do not harm or prevent others from moving in, as the Canaanites allowed the Urites, Amorites, Chaldeans, Phoenicians, Philistines, Nabateans, etc., to peacefully settle into the Land of Canaan.

Burst your bubble,
Arabic is not even mentioned, it's a foreign language.

Canaanite languages, group of Northern Central or Northwestern Semitic languages including Hebrew, Moabite, Phoenician, and Punic. They were spoken in ancient times in Palestine, on the coast of Syria, and in scattered colonies elsewhere around the Mediterranean. An early form of Canaanite is attested in the Tell el-Amarna letters (c. 1400 BC). Moabite, which is very close to Hebrew, is known chiefly from one inscription dating from the 8th century BC. The only living Canaanite language is Hebrew, which was revived as a spoken language in the 19th and 20th centuries.

Canaanite languages | Semitic, Ancient Near East, Phoenician

Canaanite languages, group of Northern Central or Northwestern Semitic languages including Hebrew, Moabite, Phoenician, and Punic. They were spoken in ancient times in Palestine, on the coast of Syria, and in scattered colonies elsewhere around the Mediterranean. An early form of Canaanite is

www.britannica.com

Wrong.
I never once mentioned Arabic, which obviously is a more modern Arab language that did come from the Arabian Peninsula, and did become adopted by most of the Mideast.
Semitic mean Arab language group, NOT Arabic, which is only one modern example of the Arab language group.

 

[Rigby5]

The word Palestine is properly pronounced with a soft 'F" instead of a hard 'P'.

{...
Indeed, there is no hard P sound in Arabic, but there is a softer F, and Palestinians pronounce the name of their would-be state as “Falastin” (fah-leh-STEEN) — as do most Hebrew-speaking Israelis.
...}

Just look at the word Phoenician.
Falistine is nearly identical in phoenetics.

And if your attempt was to claim Hebrew influence in the name Palestine, you can't, because Hebrew also has no hard P, and instead also used the soft F, because Hebrew is of Arab origins.

Nope,

Hebrew deffinately has a hard 'P' sound, as much as any of the Canaanite dialects.
Arabs can't pronounce 'P-alestine' because they speak a foreign language.

That's it.

It would not at all matter if modern Arabs were speaking a foreign language.
They are, since Arabic is not native.
But the people and culture are, so it is irrelevent.

And no, ancient Hebrew would not have pronounced Palestine with a hard P either.
They prounced it with a soft F instead, just like Arabs do.
{...

Philistia (Hebrew: פלשת‎, Pleshet) was a confederation of cities in the Southwest Levant. Its appearance follows the invasion of Egypt by the foreign sea People, of which Philistines or Peleset are part, and their alleged relocation to the southern abandoned coast of Canaan by Ramesses III following his victory over them. Philistia northern boundary was the Yarkon River with the Mediterranean Sea on the west, the Kingdom of Judah to the east and the Wadi El-Arish to the south.[1][2] Philistia consisted of the Five Lords of the Philistines, described in the Book of Joshua (Joshua 13:3) and the Books of Samuel (1 Samuel 6:17), comprising Ashkelon, Ashdod, Ekron, Gath, and Gaza, in the south-western Levant.[3]

The Five Lords of the Philistines are described in the Hebrew Bible as being in constant struggle and interaction with the neighbouring Israelites, Canaanites and Egyptians, being gradually absorbed into the Canaanite culture.[4]

The Philistines were no longer mentioned following the conquest of the Levant by the Neo-Assyrian Empire (911–605 BC). Genetic and archeological evidence suggest that the Philistines immigrated from Southern Europe to Canaan, and mixed with the native Canaanites during the first couple of centuries.[5]

...}

Philistia - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[rylah]

And there is no evidence of anyone being there before them.

Link?

{...
Key Points

• Nomadic Bedouin tribes dominated the Arabian Peninsula before the rise of Islam.
• Family groups called clans formed larger tribal units, which reinforced family cooperation in the difficult living conditions on the Arabian peninsula and protected its members against other tribes.
• The Bedouin tribes were nomadic pastoralists who relied on their herds of goats, sheep, and camels for meat, milk, cheese, blood, fur/wool, and other sustenance.
• The pre-Islamic Bedouins also hunted, served as bodyguards, escorted caravans, worked as mercenaries, and traded or raided to gain animals, women, gold, fabric, and other luxury items.
• Arab tribes begin to appear in the south Syrian deserts and southern Jordan around 200 CE, but spread from the central Arabian Peninsula after the rise of Islam in the 630s CE.

Key Terms

• Nabatean: an ancient Semitic people who inhabited northern Arabia and Southern Levant, ca. 37–100 CE.
• Bedouin: a predominantly desert-dwelling Arabian ethnic group traditionally divided into tribes or clans.

...}

Pre-Islamic Arabia | Boundless World History

courses.lumenlearning.com

You will also notice from the Land of Canaan, that originally being nomadic, Arabs do not harm or prevent others from moving in, as the Canaanites allowed the Urites, Amorites, Chaldeans, Phoenicians, Philistines, Nabateans, etc., to peacefully settle into the Land of Canaan.

Burst your bubble,
Arabic is not even mentioned, it's a foreign language.

Canaanite languages, group of Northern Central or Northwestern Semitic languages including Hebrew, Moabite, Phoenician, and Punic. They were spoken in ancient times in Palestine, on the coast of Syria, and in scattered colonies elsewhere around the Mediterranean. An early form of Canaanite is attested in the Tell el-Amarna letters (c. 1400 BC). Moabite, which is very close to Hebrew, is known chiefly from one inscription dating from the 8th century BC. The only living Canaanite language is Hebrew, which was revived as a spoken language in the 19th and 20th centuries.

Canaanite languages | Semitic, Ancient Near East, Phoenician

Canaanite languages, group of Northern Central or Northwestern Semitic languages including Hebrew, Moabite, Phoenician, and Punic. They were spoken in ancient times in Palestine, on the coast of Syria, and in scattered colonies elsewhere around the Mediterranean. An early form of Canaanite is

www.britannica.com

Wrong.
I never once mentioned Arabic, which obviously is a more modern Arab language that did come from the Arabian Peninsula, and did become adopted by most of the Mideast.
Semitic mean Arab language group, NOT Arabic, which is only one modern example of the Arab language group.

So basically you call just anything in the Middle East - "ARAB".

Including the dinosaurs, all were Arabs.

I get it, you're wrong.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

And there is no evidence of anyone being there before them.

Link?

{...
Key Points

• Nomadic Bedouin tribes dominated the Arabian Peninsula before the rise of Islam.
• Family groups called clans formed larger tribal units, which reinforced family cooperation in the difficult living conditions on the Arabian peninsula and protected its members against other tribes.
• The Bedouin tribes were nomadic pastoralists who relied on their herds of goats, sheep, and camels for meat, milk, cheese, blood, fur/wool, and other sustenance.
• The pre-Islamic Bedouins also hunted, served as bodyguards, escorted caravans, worked as mercenaries, and traded or raided to gain animals, women, gold, fabric, and other luxury items.
• Arab tribes begin to appear in the south Syrian deserts and southern Jordan around 200 CE, but spread from the central Arabian Peninsula after the rise of Islam in the 630s CE.

Key Terms

• Nabatean: an ancient Semitic people who inhabited northern Arabia and Southern Levant, ca. 37–100 CE.
• Bedouin: a predominantly desert-dwelling Arabian ethnic group traditionally divided into tribes or clans.

...}

Pre-Islamic Arabia | Boundless World History

courses.lumenlearning.com

You will also notice from the Land of Canaan, that originally being nomadic, Arabs do not harm or prevent others from moving in, as the Canaanites allowed the Urites, Amorites, Chaldeans, Phoenicians, Philistines, Nabateans, etc., to peacefully settle into the Land of Canaan.

No link proving your claim that no one was there before?

 

[Rigby5]

And there is no evidence of anyone being there before them.

Link?

{...
Key Points

• Nomadic Bedouin tribes dominated the Arabian Peninsula before the rise of Islam.
• Family groups called clans formed larger tribal units, which reinforced family cooperation in the difficult living conditions on the Arabian peninsula and protected its members against other tribes.
• The Bedouin tribes were nomadic pastoralists who relied on their herds of goats, sheep, and camels for meat, milk, cheese, blood, fur/wool, and other sustenance.
• The pre-Islamic Bedouins also hunted, served as bodyguards, escorted caravans, worked as mercenaries, and traded or raided to gain animals, women, gold, fabric, and other luxury items.
• Arab tribes begin to appear in the south Syrian deserts and southern Jordan around 200 CE, but spread from the central Arabian Peninsula after the rise of Islam in the 630s CE.

Key Terms

• Nabatean: an ancient Semitic people who inhabited northern Arabia and Southern Levant, ca. 37–100 CE.
• Bedouin: a predominantly desert-dwelling Arabian ethnic group traditionally divided into tribes or clans.

...}

Pre-Islamic Arabia | Boundless World History

courses.lumenlearning.com

You will also notice from the Land of Canaan, that originally being nomadic, Arabs do not harm or prevent others from moving in, as the Canaanites allowed the Urites, Amorites, Chaldeans, Phoenicians, Philistines, Nabateans, etc., to peacefully settle into the Land of Canaan.

Burst your bubble,
Arabic is not even mentioned, it's a foreign language.

Canaanite languages, group of Northern Central or Northwestern Semitic languages including Hebrew, Moabite, Phoenician, and Punic. They were spoken in ancient times in Palestine, on the coast of Syria, and in scattered colonies elsewhere around the Mediterranean. An early form of Canaanite is attested in the Tell el-Amarna letters (c. 1400 BC). Moabite, which is very close to Hebrew, is known chiefly from one inscription dating from the 8th century BC. The only living Canaanite language is Hebrew, which was revived as a spoken language in the 19th and 20th centuries.

Canaanite languages | Semitic, Ancient Near East, Phoenician

Canaanite languages, group of Northern Central or Northwestern Semitic languages including Hebrew, Moabite, Phoenician, and Punic. They were spoken in ancient times in Palestine, on the coast of Syria, and in scattered colonies elsewhere around the Mediterranean. An early form of Canaanite is

www.britannica.com

Wrong.
I never once mentioned Arabic, which obviously is a more modern Arab language that did come from the Arabian Peninsula, and did become adopted by most of the Mideast.
Semitic mean Arab language group, NOT Arabic, which is only one modern example of the Arab language group.

So basically you call just anything in the Middle East - "ARAB".

Including the dinosaurs, all were Arabs.

I get it, you're wrong.

No, you are totally wrong.
For example, clearly Persians are not at all Arab, neither are the Kushites and Copts of the Egyptian ruling class. The People of the Sea, like the Hyksos, Phoenicians, Philistines, etc., likely were not Arab, but blended and adopted Arab language use.

 

[Rigby5]

And there is no evidence of anyone being there before them.

Link?

{...
Key Points

• Nomadic Bedouin tribes dominated the Arabian Peninsula before the rise of Islam.
• Family groups called clans formed larger tribal units, which reinforced family cooperation in the difficult living conditions on the Arabian peninsula and protected its members against other tribes.
• The Bedouin tribes were nomadic pastoralists who relied on their herds of goats, sheep, and camels for meat, milk, cheese, blood, fur/wool, and other sustenance.
• The pre-Islamic Bedouins also hunted, served as bodyguards, escorted caravans, worked as mercenaries, and traded or raided to gain animals, women, gold, fabric, and other luxury items.
• Arab tribes begin to appear in the south Syrian deserts and southern Jordan around 200 CE, but spread from the central Arabian Peninsula after the rise of Islam in the 630s CE.

Key Terms

• Nabatean: an ancient Semitic people who inhabited northern Arabia and Southern Levant, ca. 37–100 CE.
• Bedouin: a predominantly desert-dwelling Arabian ethnic group traditionally divided into tribes or clans.

...}

Pre-Islamic Arabia | Boundless World History

courses.lumenlearning.com

You will also notice from the Land of Canaan, that originally being nomadic, Arabs do not harm or prevent others from moving in, as the Canaanites allowed the Urites, Amorites, Chaldeans, Phoenicians, Philistines, Nabateans, etc., to peacefully settle into the Land of Canaan.

No link proving your claim that no one was there before?

Yes I gave you a link saying the Arab Canaanites were the first.
That means there was no one before them.
And we can tell because the Canaanites don't have a xenophobic history of attacking strangers, but instead blending with them.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Yes I gave you a link saying the Arab Canaanites were the first.

You'll have to cut and paste the portion that said no one else was there before the "Arab" Canaanites.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

And there is no evidence of anyone being there before them.

Link?

{...
Key Points

• Nomadic Bedouin tribes dominated the Arabian Peninsula before the rise of Islam.
• Family groups called clans formed larger tribal units, which reinforced family cooperation in the difficult living conditions on the Arabian peninsula and protected its members against other tribes.
• The Bedouin tribes were nomadic pastoralists who relied on their herds of goats, sheep, and camels for meat, milk, cheese, blood, fur/wool, and other sustenance.
• The pre-Islamic Bedouins also hunted, served as bodyguards, escorted caravans, worked as mercenaries, and traded or raided to gain animals, women, gold, fabric, and other luxury items.
• Arab tribes begin to appear in the south Syrian deserts and southern Jordan around 200 CE, but spread from the central Arabian Peninsula after the rise of Islam in the 630s CE.

Key Terms

• Nabatean: an ancient Semitic people who inhabited northern Arabia and Southern Levant, ca. 37–100 CE.
• Bedouin: a predominantly desert-dwelling Arabian ethnic group traditionally divided into tribes or clans.

...}

Pre-Islamic Arabia | Boundless World History

courses.lumenlearning.com

You will also notice from the Land of Canaan, that originally being nomadic, Arabs do not harm or prevent others from moving in, as the Canaanites allowed the Urites, Amorites, Chaldeans, Phoenicians, Philistines, Nabateans, etc., to peacefully settle into the Land of Canaan.

No link proving your claim that no one was there before?

Yes I gave you a link saying the Arab Canaanites were the first.
That means there was no one before them.
And we can tell because the Canaanites don't have a xenophobic history of attacking strangers, but instead blending with them.

This part was funny......

Arab tribes begin to appear in the south Syrian deserts and southern Jordan around 200 CE,

They went from Israel to Arabia, skipping Syria and Jordan.....but then came back around 200 CE?

DURR.

 

[Rigby5]

The word Palestine is properly pronounced with a soft 'F" instead of a hard 'P'.

{...
Indeed, there is no hard P sound in Arabic, but there is a softer F, and Palestinians pronounce the name of their would-be state as “Falastin” (fah-leh-STEEN) — as do most Hebrew-speaking Israelis.
...}

Just look at the word Phoenician.
Falistine is nearly identical in phoenetics.

And if your attempt was to claim Hebrew influence in the name Palestine, you can't, because Hebrew also has no hard P, and instead also used the soft F, because Hebrew is of Arab origins.

Nope,

Hebrew deffinately has a hard 'P' sound, as much as any of the Canaanite dialects.
Arabs can't pronounce 'P-alestine' because they speak a foreign language.

That's it.

It would not at all matter if modern Arabs were speaking a foreign language.
They are, since Arabic is not native.
But the people and culture are, so it is irrelevent.

And no, ancient Hebrew would not have pronounced Palestine with a hard P either.
They prounced it with a soft F instead, just like Arabs do.
{...

Philistia (Hebrew: פלשת‎, Pleshet) was a confederation of cities in the Southwest Levant. Its appearance follows the invasion of Egypt by the foreign sea People, of which Philistines or Peleset are part, and their alleged relocation to the southern abandoned coast of Canaan by Ramesses III following his victory over them. Philistia northern boundary was the Yarkon River with the Mediterranean Sea on the west, the Kingdom of Judah to the east and the Wadi El-Arish to the south.[1][2] Philistia consisted of the Five Lords of the Philistines, described in the Book of Joshua (Joshua 13:3) and the Books of Samuel (1 Samuel 6:17), comprising Ashkelon, Ashdod, Ekron, Gath, and Gaza, in the south-western Levant.[3]

The Five Lords of the Philistines are described in the Hebrew Bible as being in constant struggle and interaction with the neighbouring Israelites, Canaanites and Egyptians, being gradually absorbed into the Canaanite culture.[4]

The Philistines were no longer mentioned following the conquest of the Levant by the Neo-Assyrian Empire (911–605 BC). Genetic and archeological evidence suggest that the Philistines immigrated from Southern Europe to Canaan, and mixed with the native Canaanites during the first couple of centuries.[5]

...}

Philistia - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Ah,
I get it,
so it's reading comprehension...

Let's check out one idiot as a case study,
who starts with:

And no, ancient Hebrew would not have pronounced Palestine with a hard P either.
They prounced it with a soft F instead, just like Arabs do.

And in the same breath posts this as a proof:

(Hebrew: פלשת‎, Pleshet)

Then acts like he's not a lunatic.

Don't you think that guy is an idiot? Tell him Rigby...

Anyway, even Rigby knows Arabs can't pronounce 'P-alestine'.

Wrong, Pleshet is pronounced with a soft F, not hard P.
The word Palestine is not supposed to be pronounced with a hard P.
That is the anglicized version.
Any Israeli who pronounces it with a hard P is exposing his European origins.

 

[Rigby5]

Yes I gave you a link saying the Arab Canaanites were the first.

You'll have to cut and paste the portion that said no one else was there before the "Arab" Canaanites.

If Jericho was the first city in the world, that means there was not other city there first.
If there were others there first, then what happened to them?
Because the Canaanites have no history of invading or harming other cultures.

 

[Rigby5]

And there is no evidence of anyone being there before them.

Link?

{...
Key Points

• Nomadic Bedouin tribes dominated the Arabian Peninsula before the rise of Islam.
• Family groups called clans formed larger tribal units, which reinforced family cooperation in the difficult living conditions on the Arabian peninsula and protected its members against other tribes.
• The Bedouin tribes were nomadic pastoralists who relied on their herds of goats, sheep, and camels for meat, milk, cheese, blood, fur/wool, and other sustenance.
• The pre-Islamic Bedouins also hunted, served as bodyguards, escorted caravans, worked as mercenaries, and traded or raided to gain animals, women, gold, fabric, and other luxury items.
• Arab tribes begin to appear in the south Syrian deserts and southern Jordan around 200 CE, but spread from the central Arabian Peninsula after the rise of Islam in the 630s CE.

Key Terms

• Nabatean: an ancient Semitic people who inhabited northern Arabia and Southern Levant, ca. 37–100 CE.
• Bedouin: a predominantly desert-dwelling Arabian ethnic group traditionally divided into tribes or clans.

...}

Pre-Islamic Arabia | Boundless World History

courses.lumenlearning.com

You will also notice from the Land of Canaan, that originally being nomadic, Arabs do not harm or prevent others from moving in, as the Canaanites allowed the Urites, Amorites, Chaldeans, Phoenicians, Philistines, Nabateans, etc., to peacefully settle into the Land of Canaan.

No link proving your claim that no one was there before?

Yes I gave you a link saying the Arab Canaanites were the first.
That means there was no one before them.
And we can tell because the Canaanites don't have a xenophobic history of attacking strangers, but instead blending with them.

This part was funny......

Arab tribes begin to appear in the south Syrian deserts and southern Jordan around 200 CE,

They went from Israel to Arabia, skipping Syria and Jordan.....but then came back around 200 CE?

DURR.

Wrong.
They did not skip Syria and Jordan, on the way to the Arabian Peninsula.
But clearly the author is differentiating between those early migrations to the Arabian Peninsula and those migrating back, much later.
That makes sense because those living on the Arabian Peninsula would have been influences by water trade from Africa, India, etc., and grown different from the Land of Canaan origins.

 

[rylah]

And there is no evidence of anyone being there before them.

Link?

{...
Key Points

• Nomadic Bedouin tribes dominated the Arabian Peninsula before the rise of Islam.
• Family groups called clans formed larger tribal units, which reinforced family cooperation in the difficult living conditions on the Arabian peninsula and protected its members against other tribes.
• The Bedouin tribes were nomadic pastoralists who relied on their herds of goats, sheep, and camels for meat, milk, cheese, blood, fur/wool, and other sustenance.
• The pre-Islamic Bedouins also hunted, served as bodyguards, escorted caravans, worked as mercenaries, and traded or raided to gain animals, women, gold, fabric, and other luxury items.
• Arab tribes begin to appear in the south Syrian deserts and southern Jordan around 200 CE, but spread from the central Arabian Peninsula after the rise of Islam in the 630s CE.

Key Terms

• Nabatean: an ancient Semitic people who inhabited northern Arabia and Southern Levant, ca. 37–100 CE.
• Bedouin: a predominantly desert-dwelling Arabian ethnic group traditionally divided into tribes or clans.

...}

Pre-Islamic Arabia | Boundless World History

courses.lumenlearning.com

You will also notice from the Land of Canaan, that originally being nomadic, Arabs do not harm or prevent others from moving in, as the Canaanites allowed the Urites, Amorites, Chaldeans, Phoenicians, Philistines, Nabateans, etc., to peacefully settle into the Land of Canaan.

Burst your bubble,
Arabic is not even mentioned, it's a foreign language.

Canaanite languages, group of Northern Central or Northwestern Semitic languages including Hebrew, Moabite, Phoenician, and Punic. They were spoken in ancient times in Palestine, on the coast of Syria, and in scattered colonies elsewhere around the Mediterranean. An early form of Canaanite is attested in the Tell el-Amarna letters (c. 1400 BC). Moabite, which is very close to Hebrew, is known chiefly from one inscription dating from the 8th century BC. The only living Canaanite language is Hebrew, which was revived as a spoken language in the 19th and 20th centuries.

Canaanite languages | Semitic, Ancient Near East, Phoenician

Canaanite languages, group of Northern Central or Northwestern Semitic languages including Hebrew, Moabite, Phoenician, and Punic. They were spoken in ancient times in Palestine, on the coast of Syria, and in scattered colonies elsewhere around the Mediterranean. An early form of Canaanite is

www.britannica.com

Wrong.
I never once mentioned Arabic, which obviously is a more modern Arab language that did come from the Arabian Peninsula, and did become adopted by most of the Mideast.
Semitic mean Arab language group, NOT Arabic, which is only one modern example of the Arab language group.

So basically you call just anything in the Middle East - "ARAB".

Including the dinosaurs, all were Arabs.

I get it, you're wrong.

No, you are totally wrong.
For example, clearly Persians are not at all Arab, neither are the Kushites and Copts of the Egyptian ruling class. The People of the Sea, like the Hyksos, Phoenicians, Philistines, etc., likely were not Arab, but blended and adopted Arab language use.

Funny, you say I'm wrong,
but concede to everything I've said so long.
Therefore you've just proven yourself Arabs are foreign to Levant.

Therefore no more states solution,
and no more new or old franchises of Arabia.

Each family of nations to their land and civilization

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Yes I gave you a link saying the Arab Canaanites were the first.

You'll have to cut and paste the portion that said no one else was there before the "Arab" Canaanites.

If Jericho was the first city in the world, that means there was not other city there first.
If there were others there first, then what happened to them?
Because the Canaanites have no history of invading or harming other cultures.

If Jericho was the first city in the world,

Who said that? Is Jericho in Arabia now?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

And there is no evidence of anyone being there before them.

Link?

{...
Key Points

• Nomadic Bedouin tribes dominated the Arabian Peninsula before the rise of Islam.
• Family groups called clans formed larger tribal units, which reinforced family cooperation in the difficult living conditions on the Arabian peninsula and protected its members against other tribes.
• The Bedouin tribes were nomadic pastoralists who relied on their herds of goats, sheep, and camels for meat, milk, cheese, blood, fur/wool, and other sustenance.
• The pre-Islamic Bedouins also hunted, served as bodyguards, escorted caravans, worked as mercenaries, and traded or raided to gain animals, women, gold, fabric, and other luxury items.
• Arab tribes begin to appear in the south Syrian deserts and southern Jordan around 200 CE, but spread from the central Arabian Peninsula after the rise of Islam in the 630s CE.

Key Terms

• Nabatean: an ancient Semitic people who inhabited northern Arabia and Southern Levant, ca. 37–100 CE.
• Bedouin: a predominantly desert-dwelling Arabian ethnic group traditionally divided into tribes or clans.

...}

Pre-Islamic Arabia | Boundless World History

courses.lumenlearning.com

You will also notice from the Land of Canaan, that originally being nomadic, Arabs do not harm or prevent others from moving in, as the Canaanites allowed the Urites, Amorites, Chaldeans, Phoenicians, Philistines, Nabateans, etc., to peacefully settle into the Land of Canaan.

No link proving your claim that no one was there before?

Yes I gave you a link saying the Arab Canaanites were the first.
That means there was no one before them.
And we can tell because the Canaanites don't have a xenophobic history of attacking strangers, but instead blending with them.

This part was funny......

Arab tribes begin to appear in the south Syrian deserts and southern Jordan around 200 CE,

They went from Israel to Arabia, skipping Syria and Jordan.....but then came back around 200 CE?

DURR.

Wrong.
They did not skip Syria and Jordan, on the way to the Arabian Peninsula.
But clearly the author is differentiating between those early migrations to the Arabian Peninsula and those migrating back, much later.
That makes sense because those living on the Arabian Peninsula would have been influences by water trade from Africa, India, etc., and grown different from the Land of Canaan origins.

Wrong.
They did not skip Syria and Jordan, on the way to the Arabian Peninsula.

You posted a bad source? Why?

 

[rylah]

The word Palestine is properly pronounced with a soft 'F" instead of a hard 'P'.

{...
Indeed, there is no hard P sound in Arabic, but there is a softer F, and Palestinians pronounce the name of their would-be state as “Falastin” (fah-leh-STEEN) — as do most Hebrew-speaking Israelis.
...}

Just look at the word Phoenician.
Falistine is nearly identical in phoenetics.

And if your attempt was to claim Hebrew influence in the name Palestine, you can't, because Hebrew also has no hard P, and instead also used the soft F, because Hebrew is of Arab origins.

Nope,

Hebrew deffinately has a hard 'P' sound, as much as any of the Canaanite dialects.
Arabs can't pronounce 'P-alestine' because they speak a foreign language.

That's it.

It would not at all matter if modern Arabs were speaking a foreign language.
They are, since Arabic is not native.
But the people and culture are, so it is irrelevent.

And no, ancient Hebrew would not have pronounced Palestine with a hard P either.
They prounced it with a soft F instead, just like Arabs do.
{...

Philistia (Hebrew: פלשת‎, Pleshet) was a confederation of cities in the Southwest Levant. Its appearance follows the invasion of Egypt by the foreign sea People, of which Philistines or Peleset are part, and their alleged relocation to the southern abandoned coast of Canaan by Ramesses III following his victory over them. Philistia northern boundary was the Yarkon River with the Mediterranean Sea on the west, the Kingdom of Judah to the east and the Wadi El-Arish to the south.[1][2] Philistia consisted of the Five Lords of the Philistines, described in the Book of Joshua (Joshua 13:3) and the Books of Samuel (1 Samuel 6:17), comprising Ashkelon, Ashdod, Ekron, Gath, and Gaza, in the south-western Levant.[3]

The Five Lords of the Philistines are described in the Hebrew Bible as being in constant struggle and interaction with the neighbouring Israelites, Canaanites and Egyptians, being gradually absorbed into the Canaanite culture.[4]

The Philistines were no longer mentioned following the conquest of the Levant by the Neo-Assyrian Empire (911–605 BC). Genetic and archeological evidence suggest that the Philistines immigrated from Southern Europe to Canaan, and mixed with the native Canaanites during the first couple of centuries.[5]

...}

Philistia - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Ah,
I get it,
so it's reading comprehension...

Let's check out one idiot as a case study,
who starts with:

And no, ancient Hebrew would not have pronounced Palestine with a hard P either.
They prounced it with a soft F instead, just like Arabs do.

And in the same breath posts this as a proof:

(Hebrew: פלשת‎, Pleshet)

Then acts like he's not a lunatic.

Don't you think that guy is an idiot? Tell him Rigby...

Anyway, even Rigby knows Arabs can't pronounce 'P-alestine'.

Wrong, Pleshet is pronounced with a soft F, not hard P.
The word Palestine is not supposed to be pronounced with a hard P.
That is the anglicized version.
Any Israeli who pronounces it with a hard P is exposing his European origins.

Well, if only some high power could create a world were all Hebrew words, like 'P-alestine',
originated from Arabic, so that Arabs could pronounce them...
and erase all the verses from Torah where it says 'P-leshet'.

If only you could force everyone to pretend with you from now on,
that when it says 'Pontiac' on the car, the correct way is to pronounce it just like Arabs can't...


Yeah what a shame,
if only Arabs could pronounce a 'P',
you'd need so much less work and excuses for that lunacy.