The no more states solution

[Hollie]

Well I couldn't find a source saying: "The US bribes Egypt to do what Israel wants."<snip>

What do the facts on the ground tell you?

I think you have answered my question and yours quite well already. Nice work proving yours and monti's 'theory' incorrect for all to see.

Light as a feather . . . .

Teddy cracks me up. He reminds me of Spicer. LOL

"The FY2008 Withholding of U.S. Military Aid. During consideration of the House version of the FY2008 State, Foreign Operations, and Related Programs Appropriations bill (H.R. 2764), lawmakers inserted new language that proposed to withhold $200 million in Foreign Military Financing assistance (FMF) to Egypt until the Secretary of State certifies that Egypt has taken concrete steps toward improving its human rights record, strengthening judicial independence, and curbing Palestinian smuggling along the Gaza border. "

http://www.mit.edu/afs.new/sipb/contrib/wikileaks-crs/wikileaks-crs-reports/RL33003.pdf

Indeed, sucking up to Israel has always been part of the peace deal.

Indeed, you're just incensed that Islamic terrorists are not given the credibility you wish for them.

Oooooo, you played the terrorist card.

I'm impressed.

Not!

You were impressed enough to frantically cut and paste cartoons.

 

[Rigby5]

A third possibility for a solution to the conflict would be a "no more states" solution -- where the "occupied" territory is divided between the existing states of Israel, Jordan and Egypt.

One advantage to this might be the dispersing of the more extreme elements into a wider and more accepting population, hopefully reducing the conflict. It seems to me that many, many Arab Palestinians would be content with living in Jordan as part of the Jordanian peoples. (As with every solution, Gaza remains much more of a problem.) Another advantage might be international support for maintaining good relations between the three nations. And none of the countries will have to take on the entire population.

On the other hand, dispersal of extremist elements might turn countries like Jordan the other direction and create a larger war between Israel and Jordan.

And while many Palestinians, possibly even the majority, consider themselves to be no different than Syrians and Jordanians, this solution does prevent Palestinian self-determination.

Thoughts?

No good.
The problem is the Zionists who are stealing homes from Arabs inside of Israel.
So Israel is the problem.
The land has to be given back to the legal owners, the Arabs.
Statehood is not that relevant except that is can't be corrupt.
The UN could run Palestine and it would be better than being run by Zionist fanatics who clearly abuse Arabs.

 

[Rigby5]

A third possibility for a solution to the conflict would be a "no more states" solution -- where the "occupied" territory is divided between the existing states of Israel, Jordan and Egypt.

One advantage to this might be the dispersing of the more extreme elements into a wider and more accepting population, hopefully reducing the conflict. It seems to me that many, many Arab Palestinians would be content with living in Jordan as part of the Jordanian peoples. (As with every solution, Gaza remains much more of a problem.) Another advantage might be international support for maintaining good relations between the three nations. And none of the countries will have to take on the entire population.

On the other hand, dispersal of extremist elements might turn countries like Jordan the other direction and create a larger war between Israel and Jordan.

And while many Palestinians, possibly even the majority, consider themselves to be no different than Syrians and Jordanians, this solution does prevent Palestinian self-determination.

Thoughts?

Israel occupies this land.

This land belongs to Israel.

End of B/S.

Wrong.
Jews are a minority of about 6 million immigrants or descendants of immigrants, compared to 12 million indigenous Arabs.
Nothing belongs to Israel because Israel has no historic rights to anything in the Mideast.
Even the original invasion around 1000 BC was illegal.
And Jews were less than 5% of the population of Palestine for almost 2000 years, since they left in 160 AD.

 

[Rigby5]

Well I couldn't find a source saying: "The US bribes Egypt to do what Israel wants."<snip>

What do the facts on the ground tell you?

I think you have answered my question and yours quite well already. Nice work proving yours and monti's 'theory' incorrect for all to see.

Light as a feather . . . .

Teddy cracks me up. He reminds me of Spicer. LOL

"The FY2008 Withholding of U.S. Military Aid. During consideration of the House version of the FY2008 State, Foreign Operations, and Related Programs Appropriations bill (H.R. 2764), lawmakers inserted new language that proposed to withhold $200 million in Foreign Military Financing assistance (FMF) to Egypt until the Secretary of State certifies that Egypt has taken concrete steps toward improving its human rights record, strengthening judicial independence, and curbing Palestinian smuggling along the Gaza border. "

http://www.mit.edu/afs.new/sipb/contrib/wikileaks-crs/wikileaks-crs-reports/RL33003.pdf

Indeed, sucking up to Israel has always been part of the peace deal.

Indeed, you're just incensed that Islamic terrorists are not given the credibility you wish for them.

Oooooo, you played the terrorist card.

I'm impressed.

Not!

The origins of terrorism come from the Zionist fanatics like the Stern and Irgun gang who blew up the King David hotel, kidnapped, mutilated, and killed British soldiers in the Sargeant's Affair, assassinated the UN moderator, Volker Bernadotte, etc.

 

[Rigby5]

Here's my thoughts. It will not work.

Although Israel is constantly demonized for their 'blockade' of the Gaza strip, no one seems to mention nor demonize Egypt for their blockade of the portion of the Gaza strip that borders their country.

Egypt doesn't want anything to do with them.

At one time, 'Palestinians' living in the west bank were part of Jordan and even given Jordanian citizenship and passports. However, after the six day war and Arafat's creation of a new Palestinian peoples, they actually tried to take over the whole of Jordan from the Hashemite kingdom. Remember Black September?

The civil war determined if Jordan would be ruled by the Palestine Liberation Organisation or the Hashemite monarchy.[6] The war resulted in the deaths of thousands of people, the vast majority Palestinian.[3] Armed conflict ended with the expulsion of the PLO leadership

Link:Black September - Wikipedia

Jordan no longer wants anything to do with them.

And Jordan isn't demonized here for that either.

The reason Egypt isn't demonized is because the U.S. forces Egypt to maintain the blockade on behalf of Israel, or lose its U.S. aid. You weren't aware of that? Before the military coup that put the military back in charge, the only democratically elected leader of Egypt in history, Morsi, opened the border and the U.S. stopped aid to Egypt. The military, was obviously upset and overthrew the democratically elected president, with the help of the U.S. and Israel, of course.

Why is it that the extreme Jew haters are relegated to goofy conspiracy theories to buttress their irrational fantasies?

It is not a "goofy conspiracy theory".
Clearly Morsi was elected and sympathetic to the Palestinians, and the US got him illegally removed from power by bribing the Egyptian military.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

compared to 12 million indigenous Arabs.

Arabs indigenous to anywhere other than Arabia?

LOL!

 

[Rigby5]

Not a chance. Jordan wants nothing whatsoever to do with Palestinians. How relieved was Jordan to dump them on Israel to deal with after the 67 war.

Not meaning to split hairs, but Jordan didn't actually relinquish (in their mind if nothing else) the West Bank until 1988.

I just wish that Israel could get the control of the Temple Mount out of the hands of the Waqf without creating imagined problems. Because any 'problems' that would portend would be 'imagined'.

The Temple Mount has no significance to Jews.
No one has any idea where either temple of Solomon ever was.
The Temple Mount most likely was a temple of Baal by the Canaanites, since it uses stone much larger than the Hebrew were known to use.
It is not like the Hebrew had any significant presence by the time of the Romans, as even King Herod was just a Roman who converted so he could rule.

 

[Rigby5]

compared to 12 million indigenous Arabs.

Arabs indigenous to anywhere other than Arabia?

LOL!

That is VERY ignorant, as not only did the Arabs in Arabia come via Palestine, from Africa, but Hebrew were Arabs.

 

[rylah]

compared to 12 million indigenous Arabs.

Arabs indigenous to anywhere other than Arabia?

LOL!

That is VERY ignorant, as not only did the Arabs in Arabia come via Palestine, from Africa, but Hebrew were Arabs.

Except that Hebrews already had a thriving civilization for a thousand years,
when Arabs were still illiterate and buriying their daughters alive in the deserts of Arabia.

 

[Rigby5]

compared to 12 million indigenous Arabs.

Arabs indigenous to anywhere other than Arabia?

LOL!

That is VERY ignorant, as not only did the Arabs in Arabia come via Palestine, from Africa, but Hebrew were Arabs.

Except that Hebrews already had a thriving civilization for a thousand years,
when Arabs were still illiterate and buriying their daughters alive in the deserts of Arabia.

That is nonsense.
Arabs go back over 10,000 years in Palestine, like the Canaanites in Jericho.
There is no history of Hebrew at all until they invaded Palestine around 1000 BC.

Arabs like the Amorites were literate over a thousand years before the Hebrew created a written script for Hebrew around 100 BC. Why do you think the Dead Sea Scrolls are mostly in Aramaic?

Again, the Arabian Peninsula is NOT where Arabs came from. The came from Africa, and slowly migrated to Arabia, via Palestine.

And the whole point of Mohammad reforming Judaism to Islam was to increase the rights of women.

 

[rylah]

compared to 12 million indigenous Arabs.

Arabs indigenous to anywhere other than Arabia?

LOL!

That is VERY ignorant, as not only did the Arabs in Arabia come via Palestine, from Africa, but Hebrew were Arabs.

Except that Hebrews already had a thriving civilization for a thousand years,
when Arabs were still illiterate and buriying their daughters alive in the deserts of Arabia.

That is nonsense.
Arabs go back over 10,000 years in Palestine, like the Canaanites in Jericho.
There is no history of Hebrew at all until they invaded Palestine around 1000 BC.

Arabs like the Amorites were literate over a thousand years before the Hebrew created a written script for Hebrew around 100 BC. Why do you think the Dead Sea Scrolls are mostly in Aramaic?

Again, the Arabian Peninsula is NOT where Arabs came from. The came from Africa, and slowly migrated to Arabia, via Palestine.

And the whole point of Mohammad reforming Judaism to Islam was to increase the rights of women.

Yeah, but why only 10,000?

For millions of years, Palestinozaur Rex was freely roaming the mountains of Narnia,
until Jews arrived from Venus and made him a cornivor, everyone knows that.

 

[Rigby5]

compared to 12 million indigenous Arabs.

Arabs indigenous to anywhere other than Arabia?

LOL!

That is VERY ignorant, as not only did the Arabs in Arabia come via Palestine, from Africa, but Hebrew were Arabs.

Except that Hebrews already had a thriving civilization for a thousand years,
when Arabs were still illiterate and buriying their daughters alive in the deserts of Arabia.

That is nonsense.
Arabs go back over 10,000 years in Palestine, like the Canaanites in Jericho.
There is no history of Hebrew at all until they invaded Palestine around 1000 BC.

Arabs like the Amorites were literate over a thousand years before the Hebrew created a written script for Hebrew around 100 BC. Why do you think the Dead Sea Scrolls are mostly in Aramaic?

Again, the Arabian Peninsula is NOT where Arabs came from. The came from Africa, and slowly migrated to Arabia, via Palestine.

And the whole point of Mohammad reforming Judaism to Islam was to increase the rights of women.

Yeah, but why only 10,000?

For millions of years, Palestinozaur Rex was freely roaming the mountains of Narnia,
until Jews arrived from Venus and made him a cornivor, everyone knows that.

{...
First city
...
6500 BCE
Jericho is the first major walled city, with a population of about 2,500.
...}

The Ancient City

In the study of the ancient world a City is generally defined as a large populated urban center of commerce and administration with a system of laws and, usually, regulated means of sanitation. This...

www.ancient.eu

.

Not only wwre the Canaanites the first in Palestine, but they built the first city ever, anywhere.
The Hebrew left not a trace of building, history, or writing until after about 1000 BC when they invaded the Land of Canaan.
In fact, most Hebrew spoke and wrote in the Arab Aramaic until around 100 BC.

 

[rylah]

compared to 12 million indigenous Arabs.

Arabs indigenous to anywhere other than Arabia?

LOL!

That is VERY ignorant, as not only did the Arabs in Arabia come via Palestine, from Africa, but Hebrew were Arabs.

Except that Hebrews already had a thriving civilization for a thousand years,
when Arabs were still illiterate and buriying their daughters alive in the deserts of Arabia.

That is nonsense.
Arabs go back over 10,000 years in Palestine, like the Canaanites in Jericho.
There is no history of Hebrew at all until they invaded Palestine around 1000 BC.

Arabs like the Amorites were literate over a thousand years before the Hebrew created a written script for Hebrew around 100 BC. Why do you think the Dead Sea Scrolls are mostly in Aramaic?

Again, the Arabian Peninsula is NOT where Arabs came from. The came from Africa, and slowly migrated to Arabia, via Palestine.

And the whole point of Mohammad reforming Judaism to Islam was to increase the rights of women.

Yeah, but why only 10,000?

For millions of years, Palestinozaur Rex was freely roaming the mountains of Narnia,
until Jews arrived from Venus and made him a cornivor, everyone knows that.

{...
First city
...
6500 BCE
Jericho is the first major walled city, with a population of about 2,500.
...}

The Ancient City

In the study of the ancient world a City is generally defined as a large populated urban center of commerce and administration with a system of laws and, usually, regulated means of sanitation. This...

www.ancient.eu

.

Not only wwre the Canaanites the first in Palestine, but they built the first city ever, anywhere.
The Hebrew left not a trace of building, history, or writing until after about 1000 BC when they invaded the Land of Canaan.
In fact, most Hebrew spoke and wrote in the Arab Aramaic until around 100 BC.

And as a proof you bring up Jericho,
a city with a Hebrew name?

Priceless.

 

[Rigby5]

compared to 12 million indigenous Arabs.

Arabs indigenous to anywhere other than Arabia?

LOL!

That is VERY ignorant, as not only did the Arabs in Arabia come via Palestine, from Africa, but Hebrew were Arabs.

Except that Hebrews already had a thriving civilization for a thousand years,
when Arabs were still illiterate and buriying their daughters alive in the deserts of Arabia.

That is nonsense.
Arabs go back over 10,000 years in Palestine, like the Canaanites in Jericho.
There is no history of Hebrew at all until they invaded Palestine around 1000 BC.

Arabs like the Amorites were literate over a thousand years before the Hebrew created a written script for Hebrew around 100 BC. Why do you think the Dead Sea Scrolls are mostly in Aramaic?

Again, the Arabian Peninsula is NOT where Arabs came from. The came from Africa, and slowly migrated to Arabia, via Palestine.

And the whole point of Mohammad reforming Judaism to Islam was to increase the rights of women.

Yeah, but why only 10,000?

For millions of years, Palestinozaur Rex was freely roaming the mountains of Narnia,
until Jews arrived from Venus and made him a cornivor, everyone knows that.

{...
First city
...
6500 BCE
Jericho is the first major walled city, with a population of about 2,500.
...}

The Ancient City

In the study of the ancient world a City is generally defined as a large populated urban center of commerce and administration with a system of laws and, usually, regulated means of sanitation. This...

www.ancient.eu

.

Not only wwre the Canaanites the first in Palestine, but they built the first city ever, anywhere.
The Hebrew left not a trace of building, history, or writing until after about 1000 BC when they invaded the Land of Canaan.
In fact, most Hebrew spoke and wrote in the Arab Aramaic until around 100 BC.

And as a proof you bring up Jericho,
a city with a Hebrew name?

Priceless.

That is ignorant.
Jericho is NOT a Hebrew name.
Nor is Jerusalem.
They predate the Hebrew invasion by thousands of years.
Jews got their name from Jerusalem, not the other way around.
And both names came originally from the ancient Canaanite word for the river Jordan and its fertile valleys.
{... Etymology. Jericho's name in Hebrew, Yeriẖo, is generally thought to derive from the Canaanite word reaẖ ("fragrant") ...}
Everything Hebrew is likely of Canaanite or some other Arab source.
Hebrew is just a derivative of the original Arab language.

 

[rylah]

compared to 12 million indigenous Arabs.

Arabs indigenous to anywhere other than Arabia?

LOL!

That is VERY ignorant, as not only did the Arabs in Arabia come via Palestine, from Africa, but Hebrew were Arabs.

Except that Hebrews already had a thriving civilization for a thousand years,
when Arabs were still illiterate and buriying their daughters alive in the deserts of Arabia.

That is nonsense.
Arabs go back over 10,000 years in Palestine, like the Canaanites in Jericho.
There is no history of Hebrew at all until they invaded Palestine around 1000 BC.

Arabs like the Amorites were literate over a thousand years before the Hebrew created a written script for Hebrew around 100 BC. Why do you think the Dead Sea Scrolls are mostly in Aramaic?

Again, the Arabian Peninsula is NOT where Arabs came from. The came from Africa, and slowly migrated to Arabia, via Palestine.

And the whole point of Mohammad reforming Judaism to Islam was to increase the rights of women.

Yeah, but why only 10,000?

For millions of years, Palestinozaur Rex was freely roaming the mountains of Narnia,
until Jews arrived from Venus and made him a cornivor, everyone knows that.

{...
First city
...
6500 BCE
Jericho is the first major walled city, with a population of about 2,500.
...}

The Ancient City

In the study of the ancient world a City is generally defined as a large populated urban center of commerce and administration with a system of laws and, usually, regulated means of sanitation. This...

www.ancient.eu

.

Not only wwre the Canaanites the first in Palestine, but they built the first city ever, anywhere.
The Hebrew left not a trace of building, history, or writing until after about 1000 BC when they invaded the Land of Canaan.
In fact, most Hebrew spoke and wrote in the Arab Aramaic until around 100 BC.

And as a proof you bring up Jericho,
a city with a Hebrew name?

Priceless.

That is ignorant.
Jericho is NOT a Hebrew name.
Nor is Jerusalem.
They predate the Hebrew invasion by thousands of years.
Jews got their name from Jerusalem, not the other way around.
And both names came originally from the ancient Canaanite word for the river Jordan and its fertile valleys.
{... Etymology. Jericho's name in Hebrew, Yeriẖo, is generally thought to derive from the Canaanite word reaẖ ("fragrant") ...}
Everything Hebrew is likely of Canaanite or some other Arab source.
Hebrew is just a derivative of the original Arab language.

Potato patatoe...
We can argue who adopted who's language,
Canaanites, Hebrews, or that they're one and the same.

But we can surely say their language was NOT of an "Arab source"
because Arabs themseves were still illiterate for another 1000 years...

 

[Rigby5]

compared to 12 million indigenous Arabs.

Arabs indigenous to anywhere other than Arabia?

LOL!

That is VERY ignorant, as not only did the Arabs in Arabia come via Palestine, from Africa, but Hebrew were Arabs.

Except that Hebrews already had a thriving civilization for a thousand years,
when Arabs were still illiterate and buriying their daughters alive in the deserts of Arabia.

That is nonsense.
Arabs go back over 10,000 years in Palestine, like the Canaanites in Jericho.
There is no history of Hebrew at all until they invaded Palestine around 1000 BC.

Arabs like the Amorites were literate over a thousand years before the Hebrew created a written script for Hebrew around 100 BC. Why do you think the Dead Sea Scrolls are mostly in Aramaic?

Again, the Arabian Peninsula is NOT where Arabs came from. The came from Africa, and slowly migrated to Arabia, via Palestine.

And the whole point of Mohammad reforming Judaism to Islam was to increase the rights of women.

Yeah, but why only 10,000?

For millions of years, Palestinozaur Rex was freely roaming the mountains of Narnia,
until Jews arrived from Venus and made him a cornivor, everyone knows that.

{...
First city
...
6500 BCE
Jericho is the first major walled city, with a population of about 2,500.
...}

The Ancient City

In the study of the ancient world a City is generally defined as a large populated urban center of commerce and administration with a system of laws and, usually, regulated means of sanitation. This...

www.ancient.eu

.

Not only wwre the Canaanites the first in Palestine, but they built the first city ever, anywhere.
The Hebrew left not a trace of building, history, or writing until after about 1000 BC when they invaded the Land of Canaan.
In fact, most Hebrew spoke and wrote in the Arab Aramaic until around 100 BC.

And as a proof you bring up Jericho,
a city with a Hebrew name?

Priceless.

That is ignorant.
Jericho is NOT a Hebrew name.
Nor is Jerusalem.
They predate the Hebrew invasion by thousands of years.
Jews got their name from Jerusalem, not the other way around.
And both names came originally from the ancient Canaanite word for the river Jordan and its fertile valleys.
{... Etymology. Jericho's name in Hebrew, Yeriẖo, is generally thought to derive from the Canaanite word reaẖ ("fragrant") ...}
Everything Hebrew is likely of Canaanite or some other Arab source.
Hebrew is just a derivative of the original Arab language.

Potato patatoe...
We can argue who adopted who's language,
Canaanites, Hebrews, or that they're one and the same.

But we can surely say their language was NOT of an "Arab source"
because Arabs themselves were still illiterate for another 1000 years...

No we can not at all argue who adopted who's language.
We have hard evidence of advanced Canaanite civilization, architecture, language, etc., over 5000 years before we begin to see a trace of Hebrew existence.

And no, Arab script predates Hebrew script by over 1000 years at least.
{...
was written in a script derived from the Phoenician alphabet. Aramaic is thought to have first appeared among the Aramaeans about the late 11th century bce. By the 8th century bce it had become accepted by the Assyrians as a second language.
...}

I think you are still incorrectly calling the Arabian Peninsula as the origin of Arabs, and it is not.
Arabs originated in the Land of Canaan.
There is not a single anthropologists who believes otherwise.
Why else would they define the word "Semitic" are to belonging to an Arab language group.
It does not mean Jewish as all.
Jews and Hebrew are only Semitic because they also are of Arab origins.

Think about it.
We now all know Africa is the source of all humans.
And which would come first, walking through the Land of Canaan, or building ships to cross over to the Arabian Peninsula?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I think you are still incorrectly calling the Arabian Peninsula as the origin of Arabs, and it is not.
Arabs originated in the Land of Canaan.

Neat!!

When are the Arabs leaving Arabia?

Who did they steal it from?

 

[Rigby5]

I think you are still incorrectly calling the Arabian Peninsula as the origin of Arabs, and it is not.
Arabs originated in the Land of Canaan.

Neat!!

When are the Arabs leaving Arabia?

Who did they steal it from?

The main occupation of the original Arabs of the Land of Canaan, was herding animals.
Which tends to be nomadic.
And that explains why they would expand into the Arabian Peninsula.
And there is no evidence of anyone being there before them.
So they did not steal it from anyone or have any reason to leave.
You will still find nomadic Bedouins from Morocco to Afghanistan, and they tend to get along with everyone because they tend to not try to take permanent possession of land.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

And there is no evidence of anyone being there before them.

Link?

 

[rylah]

compared to 12 million indigenous Arabs.

Arabs indigenous to anywhere other than Arabia?

LOL!

That is VERY ignorant, as not only did the Arabs in Arabia come via Palestine, from Africa, but Hebrew were Arabs.

Except that Hebrews already had a thriving civilization for a thousand years,
when Arabs were still illiterate and buriying their daughters alive in the deserts of Arabia.

That is nonsense.
Arabs go back over 10,000 years in Palestine, like the Canaanites in Jericho.
There is no history of Hebrew at all until they invaded Palestine around 1000 BC.

Arabs like the Amorites were literate over a thousand years before the Hebrew created a written script for Hebrew around 100 BC. Why do you think the Dead Sea Scrolls are mostly in Aramaic?

Again, the Arabian Peninsula is NOT where Arabs came from. The came from Africa, and slowly migrated to Arabia, via Palestine.

And the whole point of Mohammad reforming Judaism to Islam was to increase the rights of women.

Yeah, but why only 10,000?

For millions of years, Palestinozaur Rex was freely roaming the mountains of Narnia,
until Jews arrived from Venus and made him a cornivor, everyone knows that.

{...
First city
...
6500 BCE
Jericho is the first major walled city, with a population of about 2,500.
...}

The Ancient City

In the study of the ancient world a City is generally defined as a large populated urban center of commerce and administration with a system of laws and, usually, regulated means of sanitation. This...

www.ancient.eu

.

Not only wwre the Canaanites the first in Palestine, but they built the first city ever, anywhere.
The Hebrew left not a trace of building, history, or writing until after about 1000 BC when they invaded the Land of Canaan.
In fact, most Hebrew spoke and wrote in the Arab Aramaic until around 100 BC.

And as a proof you bring up Jericho,
a city with a Hebrew name?

Priceless.

That is ignorant.
Jericho is NOT a Hebrew name.
Nor is Jerusalem.
They predate the Hebrew invasion by thousands of years.
Jews got their name from Jerusalem, not the other way around.
And both names came originally from the ancient Canaanite word for the river Jordan and its fertile valleys.
{... Etymology. Jericho's name in Hebrew, Yeriẖo, is generally thought to derive from the Canaanite word reaẖ ("fragrant") ...}
Everything Hebrew is likely of Canaanite or some other Arab source.
Hebrew is just a derivative of the original Arab language.

Potato patatoe...
We can argue who adopted who's language,
Canaanites, Hebrews, or that they're one and the same.

But we can surely say their language was NOT of an "Arab source"
because Arabs themselves were still illiterate for another 1000 years...

No we can not at all argue who adopted who's language.
We have hard evidence of advanced Canaanite civilization, architecture, language, etc., over 5000 years before we begin to see a trace of Hebrew existence.

And no, Arab script predates Hebrew script by over 1000 years at least.
{...
was written in a script derived from the Phoenician alphabet. Aramaic is thought to have first appeared among the Aramaeans about the late 11th century bce. By the 8th century bce it had become accepted by the Assyrians as a second language.
...}

I think you are still incorrectly calling the Arabian Peninsula as the origin of Arabs, and it is not.
Arabs originated in the Land of Canaan.
There is not a single anthropologists who believes otherwise.
Why else would they define the word "Semitic" are to belonging to an Arab language group.
It does not mean Jewish as all.
Jews and Hebrew are only Semitic because they also are of Arab origins.

Think about it.
We now all know Africa is the source of all humans.
And which would come first, walking through the Land of Canaan, or building ships to cross over to the Arabian Peninsula?

I see, so based on the theory that humanity originated in Africa,
at some magic point when crossing into Canaan, Africans yet not Arabs turned into Canaanites yet not Arabs, and only when these migrating African-Canaanites yet not Arabs, arrived in the Arabian desert did these African - Canaanite - yet not Arabs become Arabs, turning everyone backwards into Arabs as well?

Yeah, Africans are Arabs, all humanity is Arab,
including Alexander Macedonian who was also a Muslim...

And Palestinians, they're of course Arabs, that is "African-Canaanite" Arabs (ver.2.0),
but of all people on the planet they can't pronounce "Palestine"...



whoa...

Q. So to sum up -

that of all people, Arabs can't pronounce 'P'-alestine,
is the proof they're original Palestinians?