The most violent state in America

[IM2]

Geez. When 4% of the population is committing most of the crimes, I'd have to say we have a racial problem.

Thanks a fucking lot, Obama.

Too bad that's not what's happening.

You are the goofiest person to ever type a post on this forum, you use complete fantasy to prove a point, and use a narrative of pure stupidity to try to push it along. HAAHAHAHAHAHA I have seen better arguments from a group of first graders. BECAUSE they at least know what is in their pants when they shit.

The facts from the DOJ are not fantasy.

 

[IM2]

You seem to have real trouble with population percentages and ratios, IM2. You need to show not just the percentage of whites in these states, but the percentage of the crimes committed which are committed by whites, if you want to make a point about who is committing crimes. You've had issues with accepting the difference between total number of crimes committed and crime rate in the past.

Of course, no matter the percentages, it is a false and dangerous idea to assume that race is the important factor where crimes statistics are concerned.

Montrovant it doesn't matter what I show you bitches will deny the f act that whites have been and continue to be the most violent racial group in this country.

You make your last comment to me and your punk ass has said none of this to the whites who continue doing exactly that. So go to hell.

.

What whites who continue doing what?

Whites may commit the most violent crimes of any racial group in the country, but whites are also the largest racial group in the country, so that would be expected. However, you ignore the rate of crimes committed, which would be a much stronger indication of "the most violent racial group in this country."

And, as I said, pointing to race as the important factor where crime is concerned is not a good idea in the first place.

You are just as bad as the anti-black racists that end up in your threads when it comes to cherry-picking information.

You cannot justify committing the most violent crimes by saying you have the most people. I don't cherry pick anything, you just can't deal with the fact that whites are the most violent race in this country. I have at least 241 years of documentation that proves it. This is what whites don't seem to get.

 

[Godboy]

You seem to have real trouble with population percentages and ratios, IM2. You need to show not just the percentage of whites in these states, but the percentage of the crimes committed which are committed by whites, if you want to make a point about who is committing crimes. You've had issues with accepting the difference between total number of crimes committed and crime rate in the past.

Of course, no matter the percentages, it is a false and dangerous idea to assume that race is the important factor where crimes statistics are concerned.

Montrovant it doesn't matter what I show you bitches will deny the f act that whites have been and continue to be the most violent racial group in this country.

You make your last comment to me and your punk ass has said none of this to the whites who continue doing exactly that. So go to hell.

.

What whites who continue doing what?

Whites may commit the most violent crimes of any racial group in the country, but whites are also the largest racial group in the country, so that would be expected. However, you ignore the rate of crimes committed, which would be a much stronger indication of "the most violent racial group in this country."

And, as I said, pointing to race as the important factor where crime is concerned is not a good idea in the first place.

You are just as bad as the anti-black racists that end up in your threads when it comes to cherry-picking information.

You cannot justify committing the most violent crimes by saying you have the most people. I don't cherry pick anything, you just can't deal with the fact that whites are the most violent race in this country. I have at least 241 years of documentation that proves it. This is what whites don't seem to get.

Japanese people are responsible for most of the crime in Japan. Does that mean they are more violent than black people?

Why do you struggle so much with simple things?

 

[007]

Yeah... more cherry picking stats and posting FAKE NEWS by a prog ass clown.

When you consider the percentage of blacks to whites in LA, then look at their crime rate, it's clear that the vast majority of crime BY PERCENTAGE is committed by the blacks, and ironically against other blacks. Of course this is NOTHING NEW, it's been out there for everyone to see for DECADES, yet the progs LOVE to push this FALSE narrative that whites are more violent, when that claim is PURE BULL SHIT...

Louisiana has 5th highest black homicide victimization rate: Report

 

[007]

7 Statistics You Need To Know About Black-On-Black Crime

Chicago: 75% of Murdered Are Black, 71% of Murderers Are Black

Black And White Homicide Rates: Who’s Killing Whom?

 

[westwall]

So where is the most violent state in the country?

Louisiana ranks as the most violent state in the country. This is largely due to the state’s nation-leading homicide rate, which at 10.3 murders and incidents of nonnegligent manslaughter per 100,000 people is more than double the national murder rate. Approximately 80% of homicides in the state are carried out with handguns, one of the larger shares of any state. Firearms also account for about two-thirds of all suicides in the state, the third largest share nationwide..

Louisiana’s incarceration rate is also nation-leading, with 1,049 people imprisoned in the state for every 100,000 residents. Louisiana is one of only two states, along with Oklahoma, to have an incarceration rate in excess of 1,000 per 100,000 people.

America's most and least violent states

This state is 65 percent white.

What state has the highest rate of violent crime?

Alaska’s violent crime rate of 730 incidents per 100,000 people is the highest of any state and is nearly double the national rate. The FBI Uniform Crime rate includes rape, robbery, aggravated assault, and murder as violent crimes, and the state ranks worst in the country in both aggravated assault and rape. Particularly egregious, the state’s rape rate of 122 reported incidents per 100,000 people is more than triple the U.S. figure.

America's most and least violent states

This state is 67 percent white, 4 percent black.

Check yourselves white folks.

That's funny, Chicago all by itself has a murder rate double that. Seems to me these folks need to work on their math skills. And it seems to me that Louisiana might be 65% white, but the cities are run by the blacks? Where do the majority of the crimes occur? Why the cities, so it seems that it is the violent black offenders who are driving the crime rate.

But that would be a fact, and we all know you don't do facts.

 

[007]

So where is the most violent state in the country?

Louisiana ranks as the most violent state in the country. This is largely due to the state’s nation-leading homicide rate, which at 10.3 murders and incidents of nonnegligent manslaughter per 100,000 people is more than double the national murder rate. Approximately 80% of homicides in the state are carried out with handguns, one of the larger shares of any state. Firearms also account for about two-thirds of all suicides in the state, the third largest share nationwide..

Louisiana’s incarceration rate is also nation-leading, with 1,049 people imprisoned in the state for every 100,000 residents. Louisiana is one of only two states, along with Oklahoma, to have an incarceration rate in excess of 1,000 per 100,000 people.

America's most and least violent states

This state is 65 percent white.

What state has the highest rate of violent crime?

Alaska’s violent crime rate of 730 incidents per 100,000 people is the highest of any state and is nearly double the national rate. The FBI Uniform Crime rate includes rape, robbery, aggravated assault, and murder as violent crimes, and the state ranks worst in the country in both aggravated assault and rape. Particularly egregious, the state’s rape rate of 122 reported incidents per 100,000 people is more than triple the U.S. figure.

America's most and least violent states

This state is 67 percent white, 4 percent black.

Check yourselves white folks.

That's funny, Chicago all by itself has a murder rate double that. Seems to me these folks need to work on their math skills. And it seems to me that Louisiana might be 65% white, but the cities are run by the blacks? Where do the majority of the crimes occur? Why the cities, so it seems that it is the violent black offenders who are driving the crime rate.

But that would be a fact, and we all know you don't do facts.

Noggy's "chocolate city."

 

[Montrovant]

You seem to have real trouble with population percentages and ratios, IM2. You need to show not just the percentage of whites in these states, but the percentage of the crimes committed which are committed by whites, if you want to make a point about who is committing crimes. You've had issues with accepting the difference between total number of crimes committed and crime rate in the past.

Of course, no matter the percentages, it is a false and dangerous idea to assume that race is the important factor where crimes statistics are concerned.

Montrovant it doesn't matter what I show you bitches will deny the f act that whites have been and continue to be the most violent racial group in this country.

You make your last comment to me and your punk ass has said none of this to the whites who continue doing exactly that. So go to hell.

.

What whites who continue doing what?

Whites may commit the most violent crimes of any racial group in the country, but whites are also the largest racial group in the country, so that would be expected. However, you ignore the rate of crimes committed, which would be a much stronger indication of "the most violent racial group in this country."

And, as I said, pointing to race as the important factor where crime is concerned is not a good idea in the first place.

You are just as bad as the anti-black racists that end up in your threads when it comes to cherry-picking information.

You cannot justify committing the most violent crimes by saying you have the most people. I don't cherry pick anything, you just can't deal with the fact that whites are the most violent race in this country. I have at least 241 years of documentation that proves it. This is what whites don't seem to get.

There's no "justification" for violent crime involved. I'm merely pointing out that you, once again, seem to have a problem accepting the difference between total crime and crime rate.

Let's say you find a town that has a population of 100 women and 20 men and look at the crime stats. Of 70 violent crimes committed, 50 are by women and 20 are by men. Based on the logic you are using, that means that women in the town are more violent than men. However, based on the rate of crime committed, the men are clearly more violent than the women: there is 1 violent crime for every man in the town, while there is 1 violent crime for every 2 women. The men would be committing crimes at a higher rate.

If you want to talk about who commits the most crimes, you have to look at the number of crimes compared to the number of people. Specifically, you have to look at the number of crimes compared to the number of people who are part of whatever groups you are talking about. In the case of your OP, you would need to know who committed the crimes and their race, then compare that to the populations of those races in the state. If 40% of violent crimes are committed by a group that makes up 20% of the population, they will have a higher crime rate than a group that is 50% of the population and commits 50% of the crime.

I'm honestly unsure of whether you understand what you are doing or not. Ratios and rates are a fairly simple concept.

I'm confident your "documentation that proves" whites are the most violent race is, at best, evidence. Considering how you misunderstand or intentionally misrepresent the statistics involved, I wonder how much of your supposed proof would even qualify as evidence.

I am not going to deny the history of oppression and atrocities committed by whites in this country. Your attempt to simplify violence as race-based is as foolish as those whites who try to do the same thing regarding minorities.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Geez. When 4% of the population is committing most of the crimes, I'd have to say we have a racial problem.

Thanks a fucking lot, Obama.

Too bad that's not what's happening.

You are the goofiest person to ever type a post on this forum, you use complete fantasy to prove a point, and use a narrative of pure stupidity to try to push it along. HAAHAHAHAHAHA I have seen better arguments from a group of first graders. BECAUSE they at least know what is in their pants when they shit.

The facts from the DOJ are not fantasy.

You are right and the FACTS from the FBI show that over half of all murders are committed by blacks and that 30 to 40 percent of all violent crimes are committed by blacks yet they are only 13 percent of the population. NOT a single violent crime has a white percentage of 70 percent.

 

[IM2]

Geez. When 4% of the population is committing most of the crimes, I'd have to say we have a racial problem.

Thanks a fucking lot, Obama.

Too bad that's not what's happening.

You are the goofiest person to ever type a post on this forum, you use complete fantasy to prove a point, and use a narrative of pure stupidity to try to push it along. HAAHAHAHAHAHA I have seen better arguments from a group of first graders. BECAUSE they at least know what is in their pants when they shit.

The facts from the DOJ are not fantasy.

You are right and the FACTS from the FBI show that over half of all murders are committed by blacks and that 30 to 40 percent of all violent crimes are committed by blacks yet they are only 13 percent of the population. NOT a single violent crime has a white percentage of 70 percent.

You don't seem to understand just how invalid the argument you make really is. So I am about to show you .

 

[Two Thumbs]

So where is the most violent state in the country?

Louisiana ranks as the most violent state in the country. This is largely due to the state’s nation-leading homicide rate, which at 10.3 murders and incidents of nonnegligent manslaughter per 100,000 people is more than double the national murder rate. Approximately 80% of homicides in the state are carried out with handguns, one of the larger shares of any state. Firearms also account for about two-thirds of all suicides in the state, the third largest share nationwide..

Louisiana’s incarceration rate is also nation-leading, with 1,049 people imprisoned in the state for every 100,000 residents. Louisiana is one of only two states, along with Oklahoma, to have an incarceration rate in excess of 1,000 per 100,000 people.

America's most and least violent states

This state is 65 percent white.

What state has the highest rate of violent crime?

Alaska’s violent crime rate of 730 incidents per 100,000 people is the highest of any state and is nearly double the national rate. The FBI Uniform Crime rate includes rape, robbery, aggravated assault, and murder as violent crimes, and the state ranks worst in the country in both aggravated assault and rape. Particularly egregious, the state’s rape rate of 122 reported incidents per 100,000 people is more than triple the U.S. figure.

America's most and least violent states

This state is 67 percent white, 4 percent black.

Check yourselves white folks.

looking at states is a failure, especially if your trying to be a racist about it. Break it down by counties or cities, or get a large map that shows crime rates and overlay the map that shows where each race lives.



then cry about the truth

 

[IM2]

You seem to have real trouble with population percentages and ratios, IM2. You need to show not just the percentage of whites in these states, but the percentage of the crimes committed which are committed by whites, if you want to make a point about who is committing crimes. You've had issues with accepting the difference between total number of crimes committed and crime rate in the past.

Of course, no matter the percentages, it is a false and dangerous idea to assume that race is the important factor where crimes statistics are concerned.

Montrovant it doesn't matter what I show you bitches will deny the f act that whites have been and continue to be the most violent racial group in this country.

You make your last comment to me and your punk ass has said none of this to the whites who continue doing exactly that. So go to hell.

.

What whites who continue doing what?

Whites may commit the most violent crimes of any racial group in the country, but whites are also the largest racial group in the country, so that would be expected. However, you ignore the rate of crimes committed, which would be a much stronger indication of "the most violent racial group in this country."

And, as I said, pointing to race as the important factor where crime is concerned is not a good idea in the first place.

You are just as bad as the anti-black racists that end up in your threads when it comes to cherry-picking information.

You cannot justify committing the most violent crimes by saying you have the most people. I don't cherry pick anything, you just can't deal with the fact that whites are the most violent race in this country. I have at least 241 years of documentation that proves it. This is what whites don't seem to get.

There's no "justification" for violent crime involved. I'm merely pointing out that you, once again, seem to have a problem accepting the difference between total crime and crime rate.

Let's say you find a town that has a population of 100 women and 20 men and look at the crime stats. Of 70 violent crimes committed, 50 are by women and 20 are by men. Based on the logic you are using, that means that women in the town are more violent than men. However, based on the rate of crime committed, the men are clearly more violent than the women: there is 1 violent crime for every man in the town, while there is 1 violent crime for every 2 women. The men would be committing crimes at a higher rate.

If you want to talk about who commits the most crimes, you have to look at the number of crimes compared to the number of people. Specifically, you have to look at the number of crimes compared to the number of people who are part of whatever groups you are talking about. In the case of your OP, you would need to know who committed the crimes and their race, then compare that to the populations of those races in the state. If 40% of violent crimes are committed by a group that makes up 20% of the population, they will have a higher crime rate than a group that is 50% of the population and commits 50% of the crime.

I'm honestly unsure of whether you understand what you are doing or not. Ratios and rates are a fairly simple concept.

I'm confident your "documentation that proves" whites are the most violent race is, at best, evidence. Considering how you misunderstand or intentionally misrepresent the statistics involved, I wonder how much of your supposed proof would even qualify as evidence.

I am not going to deny the history of oppression and atrocities committed by whites in this country. Your attempt to simplify violence as race-based is as foolish as those whites who try to do the same thing regarding minorities.

Montrovant, you argue about rates talking about the number of people then use percentages to try justifying your argument. If you wan tot get amore accurate picture you take the numbers of those of each race committing a crime against the number of people of that race. So then if there are 40 million blacks and 4,000 murders each one done by a different black person ir comes out to 1/10,000th of a percent. That tells you the likelihood of being killed someone black, .Mote blacks die as sult of hog bppd pressure and car wrecks.

.I've done the math Montrovant. You don't seem to understand this. Nor do most of the rest of the whites here relative to my consistently telling you that I have spent 32 years of my life studying these things, In 2015 if we exclude racial bias and assume each arrest was on a different black person, 5 percent of the black population were arrested for crimes 95 percent of all blacks are law abiding non criminal citizens. To make claims that blacks are 13 percent of the population but make up 26 percent of the arrests like that's the national problem when you make up 70 percent is dishonest. And when you measure everything that causes crimes which do not exist in many white communities, then you cannot see justification for any argument that say whites are expected to have the most total crime because they are the largest group of people..

 

[IM2]

wELL NO,

So where is the most violent state in the country?

Louisiana ranks as the most violent state in the country. This is largely due to the state’s nation-leading homicide rate, which at 10.3 murders and incidents of nonnegligent manslaughter per 100,000 people is more than double the national murder rate. Approximately 80% of homicides in the state are carried out with handguns, one of the larger shares of any state. Firearms also account for about two-thirds of all suicides in the state, the third largest share nationwide..

Louisiana’s incarceration rate is also nation-leading, with 1,049 people imprisoned in the state for every 100,000 residents. Louisiana is one of only two states, along with Oklahoma, to have an incarceration rate in excess of 1,000 per 100,000 people.

America's most and least violent states

This state is 65 percent white.

What state has the highest rate of violent crime?

Alaska’s violent crime rate of 730 incidents per 100,000 people is the highest of any state and is nearly double the national rate. The FBI Uniform Crime rate includes rape, robbery, aggravated assault, and murder as violent crimes, and the state ranks worst in the country in both aggravated assault and rape. Particularly egregious, the state’s rape rate of 122 reported incidents per 100,000 people is more than triple the U.S. figure.

America's most and least violent states

This state is 67 percent white, 4 percent black.

Check yourselves white folks.

looking at states is a failure, especially if your trying to be a racist about it. Break it down by counties or cities, or get a large map that shows crime rates and overlay the map that shows where each race lives.



then cry about the truth

The truth you say?

 

[IM2]

Lets see whites use the per capita argument, the 13 percent excuse and the we are 5 times the population line to deny their problem with violence and crimes. OK let's play your game. Let us now multiply the black community by 5.

Since whites have 5 times the population and we want to make that an issue let’s start multiplying by 5. Blacks have over 2 million businesses right now, let’s multiply that by 5 and then see what the outcome will be. Now there are 10 million black owned businesses and more jobs in the black community.. Let’s reduce our unemployment rate by 5 to 2.6 percent. Blacks live at a 24 percent rate of poverty lets reduce that times 5 to make it 4.5 percent. Funny how you guys can only multiply when it comes to crimes. Lets keep multiplying folks.

The black economy now grows to 6.5 trillion instead of the 1.3 trillion we have now, We all have 5 times the amount of money we can spend and have earned. What happens them? All kinds of community development that’s what. Now property values increase in the black community and because of that we have more money in our schools. So now let’s multiply the number of blacks who go to college by 5 there are now 8.5 million blacks in college. This increase in population and jobs. It lowers the unemployment rate so you have fewer blacks on government assistance because they have stable employment. Youth crime is reduced because you have facilities and jobs available for them in their immediate communities.

So then what happens to crime then if we do this, it reduces itself by 5 from 26 percent to 5.2 percent. Why? because the factors that create crime are reduced, so then crime reduces itself

But you see the white community has all these things already and still commits 70 percent of all crime in America. You want to multiply things by 5 instead pf looking at the fact you have a problem. But if you multiply things by 5 to make the populations the same the same things do not exist for blacks. We would have more economic opportunity. We would have equal representation relative to numbers of police, lawyers, judges and political representatives. You white people fail to understand this. But you keep arguing his ridiculous per capita multiply by 5 idiocy.

 

[Godboy]

Lets see whites use the per capita argument, the 13 percent excuse and the we are 5 times the population line to deny their problem with violence and crimes. OK let's play your game. Let us now multiply the black community by 5.

Since whites have 5 times the population and we want to make that an issue let’s start multiplying by 5. Blacks have over 2 million businesses right now, let’s multiply that by 5 and then see what the outcome will be. Now there are 10 million black owned businesses and more jobs in the black community.. Let’s reduce our unemployment rate by 5 to 2.6 percent. Blacks live at a 24 percent rate of poverty lets reduce that times 5 to make it 4.5 percent. Funny how you guys can only multiply when it comes to crimes. Lets keep multiplying folks.

The black economy now grows to 6.5 trillion instead of the 1.3 trillion we have now, We all have 5 times the amount of money we can spend and have earned. What happens them? All kinds of community development that’s what. Now property values increase in the black community and because of that we have more money in our schools. So now let’s multiply the number of blacks who go to college by 5 there are now 8.5 million blacks in college. This increase in population and jobs. It lowers the unemployment rate so you have fewer blacks on government assistance because they have stable employment. Youth crime is reduced because you have facilities and jobs available for them in their immediate communities.

So then what happens to crime then if we do this, it reduces itself by 5 from 26 percent to 5.2 percent. Why? because the factors that create crime are reduced, so then crime reduces itself

But you see the white community has all these things already and still commits 70 percent of all crime in America. You want to multiply things by 5 instead pf looking at the fact you have a problem. But if you multiply things by 5 to make the populations the same the same things do not exist for blacks. We would have more economic opportunity. We would have equal representation relative to numbers of police, lawyers, judges and political representatives. You white people fail to understand this. But you keep arguing his ridiculous per capita multiply by 5 idiocy.

^ This isnt for real, is it?

 

[Godboy]

Lets see whites use the per capita argument, the 13 percent excuse and the we are 5 times the population line to deny their problem with violence and crimes. OK let's play your game. Let us now multiply the black community by 5.

Since whites have 5 times the population and we want to make that an issue let’s start multiplying by 5. Blacks have over 2 million businesses right now, let’s multiply that by 5 and then see what the outcome will be. Now there are 10 million black owned businesses and more jobs in the black community.. Let’s reduce our unemployment rate by 5 to 2.6 percent. Blacks live at a 24 percent rate of poverty lets reduce that times 5 to make it 4.5 percent. Funny how you guys can only multiply when it comes to crimes. Lets keep multiplying folks.

The black economy now grows to 6.5 trillion instead of the 1.3 trillion we have now, We all have 5 times the amount of money we can spend and have earned. What happens them? All kinds of community development that’s what. Now property values increase in the black community and because of that we have more money in our schools. So now let’s multiply the number of blacks who go to college by 5 there are now 8.5 million blacks in college. This increase in population and jobs. It lowers the unemployment rate so you have fewer blacks on government assistance because they have stable employment. Youth crime is reduced because you have facilities and jobs available for them in their immediate communities.

So then what happens to crime then if we do this, it reduces itself by 5 from 26 percent to 5.2 percent. Why? because the factors that create crime are reduced, so then crime reduces itself

But you see the white community has all these things already and still commits 70 percent of all crime in America. You want to multiply things by 5 instead pf looking at the fact you have a problem. But if you multiply things by 5 to make the populations the same the same things do not exist for blacks. We would have more economic opportunity. We would have equal representation relative to numbers of police, lawyers, judges and political representatives. You white people fail to understand this. But you keep arguing his ridiculous per capita multiply by 5 idiocy.

There are plenty of impoverished white communities in the US. Off the top of your head, name some of the most dangerous WHITE neighborhoods. You cant even think of ONE! Its ok, no one can. Meanwhile, we can name MANY notoriously dangerous black neighborhoods. Your culture is the problem, not your bank account.

 

[miketx]

LOL, except Louisiana is one of the most Black states.

Louisiana is 65 percent white.

Thanks for agreeing racist.

 

[Mudda]

So where is the most violent state in the country?

Louisiana ranks as the most violent state in the country. This is largely due to the state’s nation-leading homicide rate, which at 10.3 murders and incidents of nonnegligent manslaughter per 100,000 people is more than double the national murder rate. Approximately 80% of homicides in the state are carried out with handguns, one of the larger shares of any state. Firearms also account for about two-thirds of all suicides in the state, the third largest share nationwide..

Louisiana’s incarceration rate is also nation-leading, with 1,049 people imprisoned in the state for every 100,000 residents. Louisiana is one of only two states, along with Oklahoma, to have an incarceration rate in excess of 1,000 per 100,000 people.

America's most and least violent states

This state is 65 percent white.

What state has the highest rate of violent crime?

Alaska’s violent crime rate of 730 incidents per 100,000 people is the highest of any state and is nearly double the national rate. The FBI Uniform Crime rate includes rape, robbery, aggravated assault, and murder as violent crimes, and the state ranks worst in the country in both aggravated assault and rape. Particularly egregious, the state’s rape rate of 122 reported incidents per 100,000 people is more than triple the U.S. figure.

America's most and least violent states

This state is 67 percent white, 4 percent black.

Check yourselves white folks.

Gotta protect themselves from low-pants riding, uneducated blacks roaming the streets like packs of gorillas on meth.

 

[Montrovant]

You seem to have real trouble with population percentages and ratios, IM2. You need to show not just the percentage of whites in these states, but the percentage of the crimes committed which are committed by whites, if you want to make a point about who is committing crimes. You've had issues with accepting the difference between total number of crimes committed and crime rate in the past.

Of course, no matter the percentages, it is a false and dangerous idea to assume that race is the important factor where crimes statistics are concerned.

Montrovant it doesn't matter what I show you bitches will deny the f act that whites have been and continue to be the most violent racial group in this country.

You make your last comment to me and your punk ass has said none of this to the whites who continue doing exactly that. So go to hell.

.

What whites who continue doing what?

Whites may commit the most violent crimes of any racial group in the country, but whites are also the largest racial group in the country, so that would be expected. However, you ignore the rate of crimes committed, which would be a much stronger indication of "the most violent racial group in this country."

And, as I said, pointing to race as the important factor where crime is concerned is not a good idea in the first place.

You are just as bad as the anti-black racists that end up in your threads when it comes to cherry-picking information.

You cannot justify committing the most violent crimes by saying you have the most people. I don't cherry pick anything, you just can't deal with the fact that whites are the most violent race in this country. I have at least 241 years of documentation that proves it. This is what whites don't seem to get.

There's no "justification" for violent crime involved. I'm merely pointing out that you, once again, seem to have a problem accepting the difference between total crime and crime rate.

Let's say you find a town that has a population of 100 women and 20 men and look at the crime stats. Of 70 violent crimes committed, 50 are by women and 20 are by men. Based on the logic you are using, that means that women in the town are more violent than men. However, based on the rate of crime committed, the men are clearly more violent than the women: there is 1 violent crime for every man in the town, while there is 1 violent crime for every 2 women. The men would be committing crimes at a higher rate.

If you want to talk about who commits the most crimes, you have to look at the number of crimes compared to the number of people. Specifically, you have to look at the number of crimes compared to the number of people who are part of whatever groups you are talking about. In the case of your OP, you would need to know who committed the crimes and their race, then compare that to the populations of those races in the state. If 40% of violent crimes are committed by a group that makes up 20% of the population, they will have a higher crime rate than a group that is 50% of the population and commits 50% of the crime.

I'm honestly unsure of whether you understand what you are doing or not. Ratios and rates are a fairly simple concept.

I'm confident your "documentation that proves" whites are the most violent race is, at best, evidence. Considering how you misunderstand or intentionally misrepresent the statistics involved, I wonder how much of your supposed proof would even qualify as evidence.

I am not going to deny the history of oppression and atrocities committed by whites in this country. Your attempt to simplify violence as race-based is as foolish as those whites who try to do the same thing regarding minorities.

Montrovant, you argue about rates talking about the number of people then use percentages to try justifying your argument. If you wan tot get amore accurate picture you take the numbers of those of each race committing a crime against the number of people of that race. So then if there are 40 million blacks and 4,000 murders each one done by a different black person ir comes out to 1/10,000th of a percent. That tells you the likelihood of being killed someone black, .Mote blacks die as sult of hog bppd pressure and car wrecks.

.I've done the math Montrovant. You don't seem to understand this. Nor do most of the rest of the whites here relative to my consistently telling you that I have spent 32 years of my life studying these things, In 2015 if we exclude racial bias and assume each arrest was on a different black person, 5 percent of the black population were arrested for crimes 95 percent of all blacks are law abiding non criminal citizens. To make claims that blacks are 13 percent of the population but make up 26 percent of the arrests like that's the national problem when you make up 70 percent is dishonest. And when you measure everything that causes crimes which do not exist in many white communities, then you cannot see justification for any argument that say whites are expected to have the most total crime because they are the largest group of people..

What on Earth are you babbling about?

I've said from the beginning that race should not be looked at as a cause of crime. You are the one who has tried to portray race as a major factor in crimes being committed, not me. I've merely pointed out that looking only at total numbers of crimes committed, without also showing the ratio of crimes committed compared to population, is a bad indicator. You jump around from race being the issue, to social and economic circumstances, and back again.

You didn't even provide evidence of the number of violent crimes in Louisiana and Alaska committed by whites in your OP. You simply showed evidence that they are states with the highest violent crime rates, then showed some population percentages. Those numbers are meaningless without knowing who actually committed the crimes in question, yet you tried to use them to claim that whites are more violent than others.

I don't care how many years you've spent studying. If your study involves ignoring important information in order to try to fit statistics into a preconceived agenda, that study is pretty worthless. If you think that showing that a state has a high violent crime rate, and then showing that the state has a 65% white population, is enough to prove that whites are committing violent crime at a higher rate than other races, the math you are using is fuzzy, at best.

 

[Montrovant]

Lets see whites use the per capita argument, the 13 percent excuse and the we are 5 times the population line to deny their problem with violence and crimes. OK let's play your game. Let us now multiply the black community by 5.

Since whites have 5 times the population and we want to make that an issue let’s start multiplying by 5. Blacks have over 2 million businesses right now, let’s multiply that by 5 and then see what the outcome will be. Now there are 10 million black owned businesses and more jobs in the black community.. Let’s reduce our unemployment rate by 5 to 2.6 percent. Blacks live at a 24 percent rate of poverty lets reduce that times 5 to make it 4.5 percent. Funny how you guys can only multiply when it comes to crimes. Lets keep multiplying folks.

The black economy now grows to 6.5 trillion instead of the 1.3 trillion we have now, We all have 5 times the amount of money we can spend and have earned. What happens them? All kinds of community development that’s what. Now property values increase in the black community and because of that we have more money in our schools. So now let’s multiply the number of blacks who go to college by 5 there are now 8.5 million blacks in college. This increase in population and jobs. It lowers the unemployment rate so you have fewer blacks on government assistance because they have stable employment. Youth crime is reduced because you have facilities and jobs available for them in their immediate communities.

So then what happens to crime then if we do this, it reduces itself by 5 from 26 percent to 5.2 percent. Why? because the factors that create crime are reduced, so then crime reduces itself

But you see the white community has all these things already and still commits 70 percent of all crime in America. You want to multiply things by 5 instead pf looking at the fact you have a problem. But if you multiply things by 5 to make the populations the same the same things do not exist for blacks. We would have more economic opportunity. We would have equal representation relative to numbers of police, lawyers, judges and political representatives. You white people fail to understand this. But you keep arguing his ridiculous per capita multiply by 5 idiocy.

Per capita statistics are not idiocy. Trying to ignore them is.

Of course things would be different if the black population were larger, if there were fewer blacks unemployed, etc. etc. Economic status is almost certainly a far more important driver of criminal activity than race. That is why calling blacks more violent, or more criminal, is just as wrong-headed as doing the same for whites, or any other racial group.

Your projections are pretty arbitrary, however.