The Most Boring Candidates In History?

[B. Kidd]

None of them matter.
The party and media has gone "all in" on Biden.

At this point during last election Jeb Bush, Scott Walker and lil' Rubio were leading the GOP polls

Jeb was their anointed and at the time I wouldn't vote Republican.
Trump changed that.
Liberals don't have a Trump like personality to overtake Biden.
Male, pale and stale Joe it will be.

They can only hope.

Biden is currently the one chance that the dems have to state that the nut jobs have not taken the democrat party over. If they put Biden up he will win hands down. the other clowns, unlikely.

Even the Dem controlled media cannot run cover over the long run for 'Geriatric Joe'.

It's so sad, so sad....

 

[kyzr]

Put up your Budget. Cutting agencies is peanuts. Its entitlements and defense that are the big ticket items.

Here is the 2019 Budget, $4.04T

Mandatory spending $2.74T
Social Security $878b
Medicare $625b
Medicaid $412b
Welfare $462b
Interest on the Debt $363b

Discretionary $1.3T
Defense $893.0b
HHS $70.0b
Education $59.9b
VA $83.1b
Homeland $52.7b
Energy Dept $29.2b
NNSA $15.1b
HUD $29.2b
State Dept $40.3b
NASA $19.0b
Foreign Aid $55.0b
All Other Agencies $78.1

Yeah, and?

If you're fool enough to think that there's a way to tax our way out of this mess, I don't even know what to say.

Not just tax, but cut spending and raise taxes, the math works, doing nothing is a disaster, interest on the Debt will consume everything:

Here are recommendations to cut spending and raise revenue to start paying down the $22T Debt
A. Hire another "Grace Commission" to audit and fix the Federal budget deficit

B. B. Cut Spending: [CUT $625b a year]
1. Cut defense to 2017 levels $600b until the Debt is reduced, saving $150b
2. Cut foreign aid $55b (until Debt is paid we can't borrow to give money away)
3. Cut Welfare $200b & Medicaid $200b (about half)
4. Cut education $20b (state responsibility)

US Government Defense Spending History with Charts - a www.usgovernmentspending.com briefing
Current US Defense Spending:
Year Military Veterans Foreign Aid Total Defense
2017 $598.70 billion $178.00 billion $46.30 billion $823.00 billion
2018 $631.20 billion $180.40 billion $49.00 billion $860.50 billion
2019 $684.60 billion $202.10 billion $54.30 billion $941.00 billion
2020 $737.90 billion $219.20 billion $53.10 billion $1.00 trillion

C. To cover the $900b budget deficit the following taxes need to be raised:
1. Raise the top tax rate about 7% above 2016 levels +$400b
2. Implement a new 3% Fed sales tax +$400b
3. Implement a new transaction tax on all stocks & bonds Impose a Tax on Financial Transactions | Congressional Budget Office +$100b
4. Implement a new remittances tax/fee on all money sent out of the US https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/05/tax_remittances_can_build_the_wall.html 2% of $140b is +$3b a year

Abolish agencies, close bases, abandon money-sucking weapons systems that nobody asked for (why are TWO more Ford class CVs being built?) junk Medicare/Medicaid, make a plan to phase out Social Security, get the Fed by the balls...IOW, quit fucking around with the trimming around the edges shit.

Abolish which agencies? Education? HUD? That's $90b
Cut Defense. Agree, but slowly, smartly say $150b to $600b a year, that's $240b a year total cut
Cut Welfare & Medicaid $200b that's $440b a year total cuts
Can't cut Medicare. We paid for that, you don't touch that. We need to fix it.
No fucking way you phase out Social Security, we paid for that, its retirement income. We need to fix it.

So you cut about $450b a year, about half the deficit. Now for new revenue:
1. Raise the top tax rate to 7% above 2016 +$400b
2. Add new stock transaction tax +$100b
3. Add new "3% value added tax" aka sales tax +$400b
That's about $900b in new revenue + $450b a year in cuts so it actually pays down the Debt about $450b a year
Add an increase to the gas tax to pay for Infrastructure and the Budget works well. No one gets screwed.

You tax like a progressive....Good luck on the constitutional amendment you'll need for that Euroweenie VAT.

Now abolish the Departments of Commerce, Education, Labor, Energy, HUD, EPA & DHS...Abolish the Corporation for Public Broadcasting and all of its attendant hangers-on...Devolve the FDA to the private sector and abolish the DEA...Privatize the FAA.

Like I said, quit pussyfooting around.

Abolishing the Federal Government is not a workable solution. You also did not do the math. Your "cuts" do not get anywhere close to the $900b needed to balance the Budget. How about we fund the government like Obama and Warren did for the "Bureau of Consumer Protection"? They get funded by the Federal Reserve, so Congress has no oversight. Their funding is off the books. Mulvaney cleaned house.
Mick Mulvaney’s Master Class in Destroying a Bureaucracy From Within

 

[rightwinger]

None of them matter.
The party and media has gone "all in" on Biden.

At this point during last election Jeb Bush, Scott Walker and lil' Rubio were leading the GOP polls

Jeb was their anointed and at the time I wouldn't vote Republican.
Trump changed that.
Liberals don't have a Trump like personality to overtake Biden.
Male, pale and stale Joe it will be.

They can only hope.

Biden is currently the one chance that the dems have to state that the nut jobs have not taken the democrat party over. If they put Biden up he will win hands down. the other clowns, unlikely.

Even the Dem controlled media cannot run cover over the long run for 'Geriatric Joe'.

It's so sad, so sad....

Smoking Joe will do just fine

He knows how to irritate Crooked Donnie

 

[FA_Q2]

Kamala isn’t just running against Trump. She’s running against a broken system, she’s running with legit plans to make life better in this country, and she’s running with a STORY that regular folks can relate to.... That’s why she has my vote. And that’s why she can win.

According to polling, none of this true. She certainly is not relating to the the regular guy - if she were then she would not be sub 10% in primary polling.

 

[basquebromance]

Kamala isn’t just running against Trump. She’s running against a broken system, she’s running with legit plans to make life better in this country, and she’s running with a STORY that regular folks can relate to.... That’s why she has my vote. And that’s why she can win.

According to polling, none of this true. She certainly is not relating to the the regular guy - if she were then she would not be sub 10% in primary polling.

no one who leads at this point wins. George HW led Bill Clinton by 30 points at this point in 1989

 

[FA_Q2]

Kamala isn’t just running against Trump. She’s running against a broken system, she’s running with legit plans to make life better in this country, and she’s running with a STORY that regular folks can relate to.... That’s why she has my vote. And that’s why she can win.

According to polling, none of this true. She certainly is not relating to the the regular guy - if she were then she would not be sub 10% in primary polling.

no one who leads at this point wins. George HW led Bill Clinton by 30 points at this point in 1989

Didn't say that they did though Biden is leading and may well win so I reject the premise. What polls show is the CURRENT state of a campaign and currently her story is not connecting at all with the common man. I did not say that cannot change but I don't see a single reason that it should at this point. I doubt Harris will be more than a forgotten blip in 6 months - there is noting there to bring her to the forefront.

 

[WillMunny]

You know normally I'd say Al Gore was the most boring politician in history.....except that for a political mechanized zombie Gore has come up with such hilarious pubilc non-sequiters that left me laughing in stitches. Like when he said he invented in the Internet. Or when he said the 1970 movie "Love Story" was specifically based on he and Tipper Gore's marriage.

 

[B. Kidd]

None of them matter.
The party and media has gone "all in" on Biden.

At this point during last election Jeb Bush, Scott Walker and lil' Rubio were leading the GOP polls

Jeb was their anointed and at the time I wouldn't vote Republican.
Trump changed that.
Liberals don't have a Trump like personality to overtake Biden.
Male, pale and stale Joe it will be.

They can only hope.

Biden is currently the one chance that the dems have to state that the nut jobs have not taken the democrat party over. If they put Biden up he will win hands down. the other clowns, unlikely.

Even the Dem controlled media cannot run cover over the long run for 'Geriatric Joe'.

It's so sad, so sad....

Smoking Joe will do just fine

He knows how to irritate Crooked Donnie

He's doing Gre-e-a-a-t! so far.
So 'Tony the Tiger', sez.