The mass's of Disillusioned Republicans speak--Funny but true.

[bripat9643]

For over a year now I have been trying to warn Republicans and conservatives about Donald Trump. During this time period I have always been certain that he was not one of us and that his presence in the Republican primaries would either directly, or indirectly lead to Hillary Clinton’s election.

I have continued to sound this alarm even after his nomination, largely because I knew that the general election, barring a catastrophic event, was effectively over as soon as Trump was the GOP candidate. To me, resistance was futile and counterproductive (why would I want my side blamed for the results if Trump somehow got elected?). I also felt strongly that conservative/libertarian principles were more valuable than to be sold for a couple of magic beans in the form of a liberal, reality TV conman and that by at least educating conservatives to the coming disaster that I might play some very small part it trying to make sure it never happens again. For this stance I have been literally called every dirty name you can think of (and used a few myself in frustrated retaliation), and been accused of actively supporting Hillary for president.

However, as time has gone on I have realized that there is a flaw in my premise. I thought that I understood what it meant to be a conservative or a Republican. To me that involved believing in limited government, a strong national defense, fiscal responsibility, constitutional principles, character and honesty in our leadership, and accountability for one’s own actions. What I have been very late to realize is that none of these things are particularly important in today’s Republican Party because the platform apparently got completely changed without anyone telling me.

In fact, a list of what “Republicans” now stand for has nothing at all to do with policy or principle, but rather is filled with beliefs about very specific concepts. For instance, being a member of the current GOP pretty much requires you to pledge allegiance to most, if not all, of the following views:

• That Hillary and Bill Clinton are at least an accessories to murder if not murderers, the DNC killed a member of its staff for leaking her emails, her use of which was the greatest national security breech in history, and Vince Foster killed himself because of Hillary nagging him (assuming he really wasn’t murdered).
• Hillary Clinton is hiding a severe illness which makes her incapable of holding office and which will soon cause her death (well, at least we might not have to worry about her serving two full terms!).
• President Obama is easily the worst president in history, a Muslim terrorist sympathizer, the founder of ISIS, and likely wasn’t really born in the United States.
• The Republican “establishment” is a bunch of impotent losers because they lost two elections to a media darling and can’t override vetoes without a super majority, but a guy who has never been truly leading a candidate like Hillary in the polls is a sure winner.
• Conservative writers at the National Review and Weekly Standard along with Charles Krauthammer, George Will and Brit Hume are all out-of-touch wimps who can’t be trusted to tell us the truth, but Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity, Matt Drudge and Alex Jones would never lie to us for profit (expect for maybe that whole Alex Jones “9/11 Truther” thing, which we’ll sort of pretend didn’t happen).
• When in doubt, Trump is always right, no matter what he has said in the past, even when it has directly contradicted his previous statement, and even if that happens on the same day, or in the same interview.
• Deporting illegal immigrants and building a huge wall on our Mexican border is the most important thing we must do, unless Trump changes his mind.
• There is nothing more significant (especially now that we’ve forgotten about that whole illegal immigration thing) than making sure that the person who picks the next Supreme Court justice is the same guy who was recently favors eminent domain and curtailing the First Amendment, and who picked Arsenio Hall and Piers Morgan as the “Celebrity Apprentice.”
• The news media has never been more biased than they are against Trump, which is why they gave him two billion dollars in free advertising in the primaries and why he just hired the head of a major conservative “news” outlet to head his campaign while using Sean Hannity and Roger Ailes as advisors.
• The background of a potential First Lady and her ability to properly represent the country no longer matters (that’s so 2008!).
• Experience in public office no longer matters (that’s so 2008!).
• Using a Teleprompter is good, unless it is bad (that’s so 2008!).
• Flip-flopping means nothing (so 2004!).
• Releasing your tax returns (even when you entire campaign is based on your wealth) means nothing.
• Words mean nothing.
• Having class or decency means nothing.
• Limited government means nothing.
• Fiscal responsibility means nothing.
• Cozying up to Vladimir Putin is numerous bizarre ways means nothing.
• Campaigning as an amazing manager of people but running a campaign that is in constant chaos and disarray means nothing.
• Lying is a total disqualifier for Hillary, but when Trump lies it is simply part of the “Art of the Deal.”
• Polls are either wrong or part of a massive nonsensical conspiracy, unless Trump is winning.
  Facts mean nothing (unless they are sanctified by Matt Drudge, in which case they are then gospel).
• Stories from “mainstream” media sources are inherently wrong, even if all they are doing is reporting Trump’s actual words.
• Hillary is the worst person who has ever lived and would be such a dangerous president that we must do everything possible to defeat her, except actually bother to consider electability when it comes to picking our nominee.

So it is now all so clear to me. It’s not that Donald Trump isn’t a conservative or a Republican. It’s that I’m not.
All Along I Thought Trump Wasn’t a Conservative/Republican, But Now I Realize I’m Not

I imagine there are millions of Republicans that are still wondering when did we lose the party platform of Lincoln and Reagan--and end up with this new party of Donald Trump. Who's responsible for that, and why didn't they inform the majority of the party, (moderate Republicans) of this change--LOL

The guy thinks Hillary's SC appointments will be better than Trump's. He's obviously a dumbass and a douche bag.

 

[B. Kidd]

The wall is gone. The deportation task force is now " we will work with you." What comes next?

A discourse on Race and Politics that will blow everyones' minds. (And an old corrupt white lady who has no record to run on and is playing a failed race card, is starting it!)

Stay tuned!

 

[bripat9643]

For over a year now I have been trying to warn Republicans and conservatives about Donald Trump. During this time period I have always been certain that he was not one of us and that his presence in the Republican primaries would either directly, or indirectly lead to Hillary Clinton’s election.

I have continued to sound this alarm even after his nomination, largely because I knew that the general election, barring a catastrophic event, was effectively over as soon as Trump was the GOP candidate. To me, resistance was futile and counterproductive (why would I want my side blamed for the results if Trump somehow got elected?). I also felt strongly that conservative/libertarian principles were more valuable than to be sold for a couple of magic beans in the form of a liberal, reality TV conman and that by at least educating conservatives to the coming disaster that I might play some very small part it trying to make sure it never happens again. For this stance I have been literally called every dirty name you can think of (and used a few myself in frustrated retaliation), and been accused of actively supporting Hillary for president.

However, as time has gone on I have realized that there is a flaw in my premise. I thought that I understood what it meant to be a conservative or a Republican. To me that involved believing in limited government, a strong national defense, fiscal responsibility, constitutional principles, character and honesty in our leadership, and accountability for one’s own actions. What I have been very late to realize is that none of these things are particularly important in today’s Republican Party because the platform apparently got completely changed without anyone telling me.

In fact, a list of what “Republicans” now stand for has nothing at all to do with policy or principle, but rather is filled with beliefs about very specific concepts. For instance, being a member of the current GOP pretty much requires you to pledge allegiance to most, if not all, of the following views:

• That Hillary and Bill Clinton are at least an accessories to murder if not murderers, ...

I got to here and I was done with your stupidity.


What is your point with this bullshit?


You are sad your guy lost the primary?

I've been there. I know what you mean.

I didn't cry like a baby about it, nor try to sabotage the candidate.


Get with the program.

The point of this thread is--that most Republicans will support the nominee of the party--but when you completely change the Republican platform to suit the nominee--is where you will run into serious issues.--LOL

And in that is your disaster.

What part of the platform do you believe is "completely changed?"

 

[guno]

Anybody but Muslim Hitlery chomping at the bit to remove our rights and flood our country with Muslims. ANYbody. Trump, Lassie, rattlesnake, bug..

flood our country with Muslims.

what a mentally ill person, devoid of all reality

 

[bripat9643]

For over a year now I have been trying to warn Republicans and conservatives about Donald Trump. During this time period I have always been certain that he was not one of us and that his presence in the Republican primaries would either directly, or indirectly lead to Hillary Clinton’s election.

I have continued to sound this alarm even after his nomination, largely because I knew that the general election, barring a catastrophic event, was effectively over as soon as Trump was the GOP candidate. To me, resistance was futile and counterproductive (why would I want my side blamed for the results if Trump somehow got elected?). I also felt strongly that conservative/libertarian principles were more valuable than to be sold for a couple of magic beans in the form of a liberal, reality TV conman and that by at least educating conservatives to the coming disaster that I might play some very small part it trying to make sure it never happens again. For this stance I have been literally called every dirty name you can think of (and used a few myself in frustrated retaliation), and been accused of actively supporting Hillary for president.

However, as time has gone on I have realized that there is a flaw in my premise. I thought that I understood what it meant to be a conservative or a Republican. To me that involved believing in limited government, a strong national defense, fiscal responsibility, constitutional principles, character and honesty in our leadership, and accountability for one’s own actions. What I have been very late to realize is that none of these things are particularly important in today’s Republican Party because the platform apparently got completely changed without anyone telling me.

In fact, a list of what “Republicans” now stand for has nothing at all to do with policy or principle, but rather is filled with beliefs about very specific concepts. For instance, being a member of the current GOP pretty much requires you to pledge allegiance to most, if not all, of the following views:

• That Hillary and Bill Clinton are at least an accessories to murder if not murderers, ...

I got to here and I was done with your stupidity.


What is your point with this bullshit?


You are sad your guy lost the primary?

I've been there. I know what you mean.

I didn't cry like a baby about it, nor try to sabotage the candidate.


Get with the program.

The point of this thread is--that most Republicans will support the nominee of the party--but when you completely change the Republican platform to suit the nominee--is where you will run into serious issues.--LOL

The Nominee always sets the Platform.



The Republican voters choose this. If you missed that this would mean a change in the Platform, you have only yourself to blame for that.

Nope the Republican party is no longer the party Lincoln & Reagan. That was the platform for well over a century. It is what gets Republicans sending in those donations to the party long before they even know who will be running for election. It is now the party of Trump. The party of anger, ignorance, bigotry, misogyny & extremism. In fact the 2016 platform is more extreme and divisive than ever, making certain that the party will continue to shrink in support and membership.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/19/opinion/the-most-extreme-republican-platform-in-memory.html?_r=1

In fact, you might as well put the Republican party on an endangered species list at this time.
Trump sends unprecedented numbers of GOP fleeing to Clinton

All you leftwing douche bags said the same things about Reagan when he was running. Only the terminally gullible are fooled.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

For over a year now I have been trying to warn Republicans and conservatives about Donald Trump. During this time period I have always been certain that he was not one of us and that his presence in the Republican primaries would either directly, or indirectly lead to Hillary Clinton’s election.

I have continued to sound this alarm even after his nomination, largely because I knew that the general election, barring a catastrophic event, was effectively over as soon as Trump was the GOP candidate. To me, resistance was futile and counterproductive (why would I want my side blamed for the results if Trump somehow got elected?). I also felt strongly that conservative/libertarian principles were more valuable than to be sold for a couple of magic beans in the form of a liberal, reality TV conman and that by at least educating conservatives to the coming disaster that I might play some very small part it trying to make sure it never happens again. For this stance I have been literally called every dirty name you can think of (and used a few myself in frustrated retaliation), and been accused of actively supporting Hillary for president.

However, as time has gone on I have realized that there is a flaw in my premise. I thought that I understood what it meant to be a conservative or a Republican. To me that involved believing in limited government, a strong national defense, fiscal responsibility, constitutional principles, character and honesty in our leadership, and accountability for one’s own actions. What I have been very late to realize is that none of these things are particularly important in today’s Republican Party because the platform apparently got completely changed without anyone telling me.

In fact, a list of what “Republicans” now stand for has nothing at all to do with policy or principle, but rather is filled with beliefs about very specific concepts. For instance, being a member of the current GOP pretty much requires you to pledge allegiance to most, if not all, of the following views:

• That Hillary and Bill Clinton are at least an accessories to murder if not murderers, the DNC killed a member of its staff for leaking her emails, her use of which was the greatest national security breech in history, and Vince Foster killed himself because of Hillary nagging him (assuming he really wasn’t murdered).
• Hillary Clinton is hiding a severe illness which makes her incapable of holding office and which will soon cause her death (well, at least we might not have to worry about her serving two full terms!).
• President Obama is easily the worst president in history, a Muslim terrorist sympathizer, the founder of ISIS, and likely wasn’t really born in the United States.
• The Republican “establishment” is a bunch of impotent losers because they lost two elections to a media darling and can’t override vetoes without a super majority, but a guy who has never been truly leading a candidate like Hillary in the polls is a sure winner.
• Conservative writers at the National Review and Weekly Standard along with Charles Krauthammer, George Will and Brit Hume are all out-of-touch wimps who can’t be trusted to tell us the truth, but Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity, Matt Drudge and Alex Jones would never lie to us for profit (expect for maybe that whole Alex Jones “9/11 Truther” thing, which we’ll sort of pretend didn’t happen).
• When in doubt, Trump is always right, no matter what he has said in the past, even when it has directly contradicted his previous statement, and even if that happens on the same day, or in the same interview.
• Deporting illegal immigrants and building a huge wall on our Mexican border is the most important thing we must do, unless Trump changes his mind.
• There is nothing more significant (especially now that we’ve forgotten about that whole illegal immigration thing) than making sure that the person who picks the next Supreme Court justice is the same guy who was recently favors eminent domain and curtailing the First Amendment, and who picked Arsenio Hall and Piers Morgan as the “Celebrity Apprentice.”
• The news media has never been more biased than they are against Trump, which is why they gave him two billion dollars in free advertising in the primaries and why he just hired the head of a major conservative “news” outlet to head his campaign while using Sean Hannity and Roger Ailes as advisors.
• The background of a potential First Lady and her ability to properly represent the country no longer matters (that’s so 2008!).
• Experience in public office no longer matters (that’s so 2008!).
• Using a Teleprompter is good, unless it is bad (that’s so 2008!).
• Flip-flopping means nothing (so 2004!).
• Releasing your tax returns (even when you entire campaign is based on your wealth) means nothing.
• Words mean nothing.
• Having class or decency means nothing.
• Limited government means nothing.
• Fiscal responsibility means nothing.
• Cozying up to Vladimir Putin is numerous bizarre ways means nothing.
• Campaigning as an amazing manager of people but running a campaign that is in constant chaos and disarray means nothing.
• Lying is a total disqualifier for Hillary, but when Trump lies it is simply part of the “Art of the Deal.”
• Polls are either wrong or part of a massive nonsensical conspiracy, unless Trump is winning.
  Facts mean nothing (unless they are sanctified by Matt Drudge, in which case they are then gospel).
• Stories from “mainstream” media sources are inherently wrong, even if all they are doing is reporting Trump’s actual words.
• Hillary is the worst person who has ever lived and would be such a dangerous president that we must do everything possible to defeat her, except actually bother to consider electability when it comes to picking our nominee.

So it is now all so clear to me. It’s not that Donald Trump isn’t a conservative or a Republican. It’s that I’m not.
All Along I Thought Trump Wasn’t a Conservative/Republican, But Now I Realize I’m Not

I imagine there are millions of Republicans that are still wondering when did we lose the party platform of Lincoln and Reagan--and end up with this new party of Donald Trump. Who's responsible for that, and why didn't they inform the majority of the party, (moderate Republicans) of this change--LOL

Stopped reading at "one of US"

Liar

 

[oreo]

For over a year now I have been trying to warn Republicans and conservatives about Donald Trump. During this time period I have always been certain that he was not one of us and that his presence in the Republican primaries would either directly, or indirectly lead to Hillary Clinton’s election.

I have continued to sound this alarm even after his nomination, largely because I knew that the general election, barring a catastrophic event, was effectively over as soon as Trump was the GOP candidate. To me, resistance was futile and counterproductive (why would I want my side blamed for the results if Trump somehow got elected?). I also felt strongly that conservative/libertarian principles were more valuable than to be sold for a couple of magic beans in the form of a liberal, reality TV conman and that by at least educating conservatives to the coming disaster that I might play some very small part it trying to make sure it never happens again. For this stance I have been literally called every dirty name you can think of (and used a few myself in frustrated retaliation), and been accused of actively supporting Hillary for president.

However, as time has gone on I have realized that there is a flaw in my premise. I thought that I understood what it meant to be a conservative or a Republican. To me that involved believing in limited government, a strong national defense, fiscal responsibility, constitutional principles, character and honesty in our leadership, and accountability for one’s own actions. What I have been very late to realize is that none of these things are particularly important in today’s Republican Party because the platform apparently got completely changed without anyone telling me.

In fact, a list of what “Republicans” now stand for has nothing at all to do with policy or principle, but rather is filled with beliefs about very specific concepts. For instance, being a member of the current GOP pretty much requires you to pledge allegiance to most, if not all, of the following views:

• That Hillary and Bill Clinton are at least an accessories to murder if not murderers, ...

I got to here and I was done with your stupidity.


What is your point with this bullshit?


You are sad your guy lost the primary?

I've been there. I know what you mean.

I didn't cry like a baby about it, nor try to sabotage the candidate.


Get with the program.

The point of this thread is--that most Republicans will support the nominee of the party--but when you completely change the Republican platform to suit the nominee--is where you will run into serious issues.--LOL

The Nominee always sets the Platform.



The Republican voters choose this. If you missed that this would mean a change in the Platform, you have only yourself to blame for that.

Nope the Republican party is no longer the party Lincoln & Reagan. That was the platform for well over a century. It is what gets Republicans sending in those donations to the party long before they even know who will be running for election. It is now the party of Trump. The party of anger, ignorance, bigotry, misogyny & extremism. In fact the 2016 platform is more extreme and divisive than ever, making certain that the party will continue to shrink in support and membership.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/19/opinion/the-most-extreme-republican-platform-in-memory.html?_r=1

In fact, you might as well put the Republican party on an endangered species list at this time.
Trump sends unprecedented numbers of GOP fleeing to Clinton

All you leftwing douche bags said the same things about Reagan when he was running. Only the terminally gullible are fooled.

Donald Trump is NO Ronald Reagan--LOL A friend and staffer of Reagan will tell you that in a 3 minute video.

For over a year now I have been trying to warn Republicans and conservatives about Donald Trump. During this time period I have always been certain that he was not one of us and that his presence in the Republican primaries would either directly, or indirectly lead to Hillary Clinton’s election.

I have continued to sound this alarm even after his nomination, largely because I knew that the general election, barring a catastrophic event, was effectively over as soon as Trump was the GOP candidate. To me, resistance was futile and counterproductive (why would I want my side blamed for the results if Trump somehow got elected?). I also felt strongly that conservative/libertarian principles were more valuable than to be sold for a couple of magic beans in the form of a liberal, reality TV conman and that by at least educating conservatives to the coming disaster that I might play some very small part it trying to make sure it never happens again. For this stance I have been literally called every dirty name you can think of (and used a few myself in frustrated retaliation), and been accused of actively supporting Hillary for president.

However, as time has gone on I have realized that there is a flaw in my premise. I thought that I understood what it meant to be a conservative or a Republican. To me that involved believing in limited government, a strong national defense, fiscal responsibility, constitutional principles, character and honesty in our leadership, and accountability for one’s own actions. What I have been very late to realize is that none of these things are particularly important in today’s Republican Party because the platform apparently got completely changed without anyone telling me.

In fact, a list of what “Republicans” now stand for has nothing at all to do with policy or principle, but rather is filled with beliefs about very specific concepts. For instance, being a member of the current GOP pretty much requires you to pledge allegiance to most, if not all, of the following views:

• That Hillary and Bill Clinton are at least an accessories to murder if not murderers, the DNC killed a member of its staff for leaking her emails, her use of which was the greatest national security breech in history, and Vince Foster killed himself because of Hillary nagging him (assuming he really wasn’t murdered).
• Hillary Clinton is hiding a severe illness which makes her incapable of holding office and which will soon cause her death (well, at least we might not have to worry about her serving two full terms!).
• President Obama is easily the worst president in history, a Muslim terrorist sympathizer, the founder of ISIS, and likely wasn’t really born in the United States.
• The Republican “establishment” is a bunch of impotent losers because they lost two elections to a media darling and can’t override vetoes without a super majority, but a guy who has never been truly leading a candidate like Hillary in the polls is a sure winner.
• Conservative writers at the National Review and Weekly Standard along with Charles Krauthammer, George Will and Brit Hume are all out-of-touch wimps who can’t be trusted to tell us the truth, but Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity, Matt Drudge and Alex Jones would never lie to us for profit (expect for maybe that whole Alex Jones “9/11 Truther” thing, which we’ll sort of pretend didn’t happen).
• When in doubt, Trump is always right, no matter what he has said in the past, even when it has directly contradicted his previous statement, and even if that happens on the same day, or in the same interview.
• Deporting illegal immigrants and building a huge wall on our Mexican border is the most important thing we must do, unless Trump changes his mind.
• There is nothing more significant (especially now that we’ve forgotten about that whole illegal immigration thing) than making sure that the person who picks the next Supreme Court justice is the same guy who was recently favors eminent domain and curtailing the First Amendment, and who picked Arsenio Hall and Piers Morgan as the “Celebrity Apprentice.”
• The news media has never been more biased than they are against Trump, which is why they gave him two billion dollars in free advertising in the primaries and why he just hired the head of a major conservative “news” outlet to head his campaign while using Sean Hannity and Roger Ailes as advisors.
• The background of a potential First Lady and her ability to properly represent the country no longer matters (that’s so 2008!).
• Experience in public office no longer matters (that’s so 2008!).
• Using a Teleprompter is good, unless it is bad (that’s so 2008!).
• Flip-flopping means nothing (so 2004!).
• Releasing your tax returns (even when you entire campaign is based on your wealth) means nothing.
• Words mean nothing.
• Having class or decency means nothing.
• Limited government means nothing.
• Fiscal responsibility means nothing.
• Cozying up to Vladimir Putin is numerous bizarre ways means nothing.
• Campaigning as an amazing manager of people but running a campaign that is in constant chaos and disarray means nothing.
• Lying is a total disqualifier for Hillary, but when Trump lies it is simply part of the “Art of the Deal.”
• Polls are either wrong or part of a massive nonsensical conspiracy, unless Trump is winning.
  Facts mean nothing (unless they are sanctified by Matt Drudge, in which case they are then gospel).
• Stories from “mainstream” media sources are inherently wrong, even if all they are doing is reporting Trump’s actual words.
• Hillary is the worst person who has ever lived and would be such a dangerous president that we must do everything possible to defeat her, except actually bother to consider electability when it comes to picking our nominee.

So it is now all so clear to me. It’s not that Donald Trump isn’t a conservative or a Republican. It’s that I’m not.
All Along I Thought Trump Wasn’t a Conservative/Republican, But Now I Realize I’m Not

I imagine there are millions of Republicans that are still wondering when did we lose the party platform of Lincoln and Reagan--and end up with this new party of Donald Trump. Who's responsible for that, and why didn't they inform the majority of the party, (moderate Republicans) of this change--LOL

The guy thinks Hillary's SC appointments will be better than Trump's. He's obviously a dumbass and a douche bag.

All SCOTUS nominee's have to be confirmed by the Senate, and since the Senate will go down with Trump, you couldn't get an ultra conservative appointed to the U.S. Supreme court if your life depended on it--LOL

Furthermore there are actually REPUBLICANS that are much more concerned about who Donald Trump would pick than Hillary Clinton.

A little reading wouldn't hurt you one bit.
I’ll Take Hillary Clinton Over Donald Trump

 

[Correll]

Bullshit.


Trump is a populist and a nationalist.

That is not ignorant, not bigoted, not misogynistic, nor extreme.


There is a fair amount of justifiable anger. As well there should be.


Do you have anything to say to support your talking points?

Deporting illegals is not bigotry.

Not wanting to be the world's bitch on Trade is not ignorant.

Not wanting to fuck with Russia is hardly extreme.

Are you joking--did you actually ask me if I had anything to support my claim? You're extremely new to politics aren't you? I've never seen you on this board before.
http://naplesteapartypatriots.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/delaware-tea-party.jpg?w=425&h=300
I’ll Take Hillary Clinton Over Donald Trump
Mac Stipanovich: An open letter to my fellow Republicans

Friend and former staffer of Ronald Reagan said it all in 3 minutes. You do realize that the overwhelming majority of the party are Moderate Reaganites, don't you? Or maybe you don't know that either?
...DIA]

What claims do you think you are supporting there?

That the Republican party has been hijacked by the Reich wing

I've said nothing casting doubt on your whining about losing. Yes, you and your lost the primary.


I have been challenging your hysterical and vile accusations against those of us who have won.


Obviously, when I asked you to support your claims, I was talking about the ones I had been challenging.


And you have not done so.

Only a fool would make a Godwin reference in this context.

This is for you.

The point is you haven't won. In fact it will be a landslide victory for Hillary Clinton, and Trump will also take the Republican senate with him, along with a ton of seats in the house, and down ballot races all across this country.

He has successfully chased off every voting block you can shake a stick at, and to put it bluntly there are not enough white angry, ignorant men ...ces.

I stopped reading where you insulted me with your "ignorant" comment.


1. I was obviously referring to the primary. We won the primary. Your pretense to misunderstand that was a dishonest dodge so you would not have to respond honestly or seriously.

2. re: your insult. You are an asshole.

3. And you still have failed to support any of your vile claims about Trump and his supporters.


It is pretty obvious that you lack either the ability or the desire to have a serious and honest discussion on the issue of the GOP divide.

 

[oreo]

The wall is gone. The deportation task force is now " we will work with you." What comes next?

Trump played his supporters like a fiddle. He was smart enough to know what they were angry about and went full into it. This Chimpanzee deserves a television emmy award for his performance as the Republican nominee--LOL He has really exposed the bigotry, the hate mongering, the misogyny and the absolute in your face ignorance within the Republican party.

We can only hope that when he goes down, he takes them, and every single Reich wing talk show host that is responsible for this ignorance with him. A Trump rally reminds me of something that came right out of the 1960's civil rights movement. An all white, bigoted, ignorant, angry mob.

Trump's campaign has been reduced to the Shawn Hannity show on FOX News--LOL

 

[oreo]

Are you joking--did you actually ask me if I had anything to support my claim? You're extremely new to politics aren't you? I've never seen you on this board before.
http://naplesteapartypatriots.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/delaware-tea-party.jpg?w=425&h=300
I’ll Take Hillary Clinton Over Donald Trump
Mac Stipanovich: An open letter to my fellow Republicans

Friend and former staffer of Ronald Reagan said it all in 3 minutes. You do realize that the overwhelming majority of the party are Moderate Reaganites, don't you? Or maybe you don't know that either?
...DIA]

What claims do you think you are supporting there?

That the Republican party has been hijacked by the Reich wing

I've said nothing casting doubt on your whining about losing. Yes, you and your lost the primary.


I have been challenging your hysterical and vile accusations against those of us who have won.


Obviously, when I asked you to support your claims, I was talking about the ones I had been challenging.


And you have not done so.

Only a fool would make a Godwin reference in this context.

This is for you.

The point is you haven't won. In fact it will be a landslide victory for Hillary Clinton, and Trump will also take the Republican senate with him, along with a ton of seats in the house, and down ballot races all across this country.

He has successfully chased off every voting block you can shake a stick at, and to put it bluntly there are not enough white angry, ignorant men ...ces.

I stopped reading where you insulted me with your "ignorant" comment.


1. I was obviously referring to the primary. We won the primary. Your pretense to misunderstand that was a dishonest dodge so you would not have to respond honestly or seriously.

2. re: your insult. You are an asshole.

3. And you still have failed to support any of your vile claims about Trump and his supporters.


It is pretty obvious that you lack either the ability or the desire to have a serious and honest discussion on the issue of the GOP divide.

Well you are ignorant.
A neuroscientist explains what may be wrong with Trump supporters’ brains
Column: Trump exploits rational political ignorance

 

[Correll]

What claims do you think you are supporting there?

That the Republican party has been hijacked by the Reich wing

I've said nothing casting doubt on your whining about losing. Yes, you and your lost the primary.


I have been challenging your hysterical and vile accusations against those of us who have won.


Obviously, when I asked you to support your claims, I was talking about the ones I had been challenging.


And you have not done so.

Only a fool would make a Godwin reference in this context.

This is for you.

The point is you haven't won. In fact it will be a landslide victory for Hillary Clinton, and Trump will also take the Republican senate with him, along with a ton of seats in the house, and down ballot races all across this country.

He has successfully chased off every voting block you can shake a stick at, and to put it bluntly there are not enough white angry, ignorant men ...ces.

I stopped reading where you insulted me with your "ignorant" comment.


1. I was obviously referring to the primary. We won the primary. Your pretense to misunderstand that was a dishonest dodge so you would not have to respond honestly or seriously.

2. re: your insult. You are an asshole.

3. And you still have failed to support any of your vile claims about Trump and his supporters.


It is pretty obvious that you lack either the ability or the desire to have a serious and honest discussion on the issue of the GOP divide.

Well you are ignorant.
A neuroscientist explains what may be wrong with Trump supporters’ brains
Column: Trump exploits rational political ignorance
...

Scientists form Tribes like anyone else and fall into the trap of thinking that their viewpoint is just "common sense" and any other viewpoint has to be explained away.

Responding with challenges to previous points, with lengthy links on other issues is the Logical Fallacy of Argument by Verbosity.

You made insulting claims about your ideological enemies but refuse to support them.

What type of person does that?

IF you are incapable of imagining that your enemies can have any reason for disagreeing with you, other than having a defective brain,

it is because YOU are closed minded.

 

[Norman]

Yet a other liberal who doesn't understand hyperbole but makes the false equivalency between that and serious, serious Hillary Clinton lies.

 

[BULLDOG]

For over a year now I have been trying to warn Republicans and conservatives about Donald Trump. During this time period I have always been certain that he was not one of us and that his presence in the Republican primaries would either directly, or indirectly lead to Hillary Clinton’s election.

I have continued to sound this alarm even after his nomination, largely because I knew that the general election, barring a catastrophic event, was effectively over as soon as Trump was the GOP candidate. To me, resistance was futile and counterproductive (why would I want my side blamed for the results if Trump somehow got elected?). I also felt strongly that conservative/libertarian principles were more valuable than to be sold for a couple of magic beans in the form of a liberal, reality TV conman and that by at least educating conservatives to the coming disaster that I might play some very small part it trying to make sure it never happens again. For this stance I have been literally called every dirty name you can think of (and used a few myself in frustrated retaliation), and been accused of actively supporting Hillary for president.

However, as time has gone on I have realized that there is a flaw in my premise. I thought that I understood what it meant to be a conservative or a Republican. To me that involved believing in limited government, a strong national defense, fiscal responsibility, constitutional principles, character and honesty in our leadership, and accountability for one’s own actions. What I have been very late to realize is that none of these things are particularly important in today’s Republican Party because the platform apparently got completely changed without anyone telling me.

In fact, a list of what “Republicans” now stand for has nothing at all to do with policy or principle, but rather is filled with beliefs about very specific concepts. For instance, being a member of the current GOP pretty much requires you to pledge allegiance to most, if not all, of the following views:

• That Hillary and Bill Clinton are at least an accessories to murder if not murderers, ...

I got to here and I was done with your stupidity.


What is your point with this bullshit?


You are sad your guy lost the primary?

I've been there. I know what you mean.

I didn't cry like a baby about it, nor try to sabotage the candidate.


Get with the program.

The point of this thread is--that most Republicans will support the nominee of the party--but when you completely change the Republican platform to suit the nominee--is where you will run into serious issues.--LOL

The Nominee always sets the Platform.



The Republican voters choose this. If you missed that this would mean a change in the Platform, you have only yourself to blame for that.

Nope the Republican party is no longer the party Lincoln & Reagan. That was the platform for well over a century. It is what gets Republicans sending in those donations to the party long before they even know who will be running for election. It is now the party of Trump. The party of anger, ignorance, bigotry, misogyny & extremism. In fact the 2016 platform is more extreme and divisive than ever, making certain that the party will continue to shrink in support and membership.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/19/opinion/the-most-extreme-republican-platform-in-memory.html?_r=1

In fact, you might as well put the Republican party on an endangered species list at this time.
Trump sends unprecedented numbers of GOP fleeing to Clinton...

Bullshit.


Trump is a populist and a nationalist.

That is not ignorant, not bigoted, not misogynistic, nor extreme.


There is a fair amount of justifiable anger. As well there should be.


Do you have anything to say to support your talking points?

Deporting illegals is not bigotry.

Not wanting to be the world's bitch on Trade is not ignorant.

Not wanting to fuck with Russia is hardly extreme.

Trying to deal with what problems we have with Trumpisms is ignorant.

 

[The Irish Ram]

Anybody but Muslim Hitlery chomping at the bit to remove our rights and flood our country with Muslims. ANYbody. Trump, Lassie, rattlesnake, bug..

flood our country with Muslims.

what a mentally ill person, devoid of all reality

My mental health is fine guano. Germany is reality. France is reality. This is UN policy that Obama has carried out and what Hitlery wants to continue to carry out. How about you stop with the ineffective stone throwing, and address the issue.
Why do you wish the same horror on the USA, that the German Government has pushed on their people? Address that and stop reverting to personal attacks. They make you look to stupid to respond to the actual issue.

 

[Votto]

For over a year now I have been trying to warn Republicans and conservatives about Donald Trump. During this time period I have always been certain that he was not one of us and that his presence in the Republican primaries would either directly, or indirectly lead to Hillary Clinton’s election.

I have continued to sound this alarm even after his nomination, largely because I knew that the general election, barring a catastrophic event, was effectively over as soon as Trump was the GOP candidate. To me, resistance was futile and counterproductive (why would I want my side blamed for the results if Trump somehow got elected?). I also felt strongly that conservative/libertarian principles were more valuable than to be sold for a couple of magic beans in the form of a liberal, reality TV conman and that by at least educating conservatives to the coming disaster that I might play some very small part it trying to make sure it never happens again. For this stance I have been literally called every dirty name you can think of (and used a few myself in frustrated retaliation), and been accused of actively supporting Hillary for president.

However, as time has gone on I have realized that there is a flaw in my premise. I thought that I understood what it meant to be a conservative or a Republican. To me that involved believing in limited government, a strong national defense, fiscal responsibility, constitutional principles, character and honesty in our leadership, and accountability for one’s own actions. What I have been very late to realize is that none of these things are particularly important in today’s Republican Party because the platform apparently got completely changed without anyone telling me.

In fact, a list of what “Republicans” now stand for has nothing at all to do with policy or principle, but rather is filled with beliefs about very specific concepts. For instance, being a member of the current GOP pretty much requires you to pledge allegiance to most, if not all, of the following views:

• That Hillary and Bill Clinton are at least an accessories to murder if not murderers, the DNC killed a member of its staff for leaking her emails, her use of which was the greatest national security breech in history, and Vince Foster killed himself because of Hillary nagging him (assuming he really wasn’t murdered).
• Hillary Clinton is hiding a severe illness which makes her incapable of holding office and which will soon cause her death (well, at least we might not have to worry about her serving two full terms!).
• President Obama is easily the worst president in history, a Muslim terrorist sympathizer, the founder of ISIS, and likely wasn’t really born in the United States.
• The Republican “establishment” is a bunch of impotent losers because they lost two elections to a media darling and can’t override vetoes without a super majority, but a guy who has never been truly leading a candidate like Hillary in the polls is a sure winner.
• Conservative writers at the National Review and Weekly Standard along with Charles Krauthammer, George Will and Brit Hume are all out-of-touch wimps who can’t be trusted to tell us the truth, but Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity, Matt Drudge and Alex Jones would never lie to us for profit (expect for maybe that whole Alex Jones “9/11 Truther” thing, which we’ll sort of pretend didn’t happen).
• When in doubt, Trump is always right, no matter what he has said in the past, even when it has directly contradicted his previous statement, and even if that happens on the same day, or in the same interview.
• Deporting illegal immigrants and building a huge wall on our Mexican border is the most important thing we must do, unless Trump changes his mind.
• There is nothing more significant (especially now that we’ve forgotten about that whole illegal immigration thing) than making sure that the person who picks the next Supreme Court justice is the same guy who was recently favors eminent domain and curtailing the First Amendment, and who picked Arsenio Hall and Piers Morgan as the “Celebrity Apprentice.”
• The news media has never been more biased than they are against Trump, which is why they gave him two billion dollars in free advertising in the primaries and why he just hired the head of a major conservative “news” outlet to head his campaign while using Sean Hannity and Roger Ailes as advisors.
• The background of a potential First Lady and her ability to properly represent the country no longer matters (that’s so 2008!).
• Experience in public office no longer matters (that’s so 2008!).
• Using a Teleprompter is good, unless it is bad (that’s so 2008!).
• Flip-flopping means nothing (so 2004!).
• Releasing your tax returns (even when you entire campaign is based on your wealth) means nothing.
• Words mean nothing.
• Having class or decency means nothing.
• Limited government means nothing.
• Fiscal responsibility means nothing.
• Cozying up to Vladimir Putin is numerous bizarre ways means nothing.
• Campaigning as an amazing manager of people but running a campaign that is in constant chaos and disarray means nothing.
• Lying is a total disqualifier for Hillary, but when Trump lies it is simply part of the “Art of the Deal.”
• Polls are either wrong or part of a massive nonsensical conspiracy, unless Trump is winning.
  Facts mean nothing (unless they are sanctified by Matt Drudge, in which case they are then gospel).
• Stories from “mainstream” media sources are inherently wrong, even if all they are doing is reporting Trump’s actual words.
• Hillary is the worst person who has ever lived and would be such a dangerous president that we must do everything possible to defeat her, except actually bother to consider electability when it comes to picking our nominee.

So it is now all so clear to me. It’s not that Donald Trump isn’t a conservative or a Republican. It’s that I’m not.
All Along I Thought Trump Wasn’t a Conservative/Republican, But Now I Realize I’m Not

I imagine there are millions of Republicans that are still wondering when did we lose the party platform of Lincoln and Reagan--and end up with this new party of Donald Trump. Who's responsible for that, and why didn't they inform the majority of the party, (moderate Republicans) of this change--LOL

This is the greatest post I have ever seen on this forum.

I will bump it as often as I can until I get bored.

Yep it came off of a Republican Face Book thread--someone captured it--and it's true. The party has been hijacked--and no one notified anyone of the new platform.

No one hijacked the party.

If you are a conservative, you have no representation in government and never have had any. People are voted into office to make government "bigger" and "better" every single time.

It is more like you are beginning to wake up to the reality of politics than anything.

So if you want a free phone or abortion or college education, etc., just vote accordingly.

 

[oreo]

Dozens of delusional bed wetting liberals rant here all the time.

It isn't funny though. It's pathetic.

I think these are REAL Republicans--LOL Unfortunately for you that they are also the overwhelming majority of the party.
Trump sends unprecedented numbers of GOP fleeing to Clinton

 

[oreo]

For over a year now I have been trying to warn Republicans and conservatives about Donald Trump. During this time period I have always been certain that he was not one of us and that his presence in the Republican primaries would either directly, or indirectly lead to Hillary Clinton’s election.

I have continued to sound this alarm even after his nomination, largely because I knew that the general election, barring a catastrophic event, was effectively over as soon as Trump was the GOP candidate. To me, resistance was futile and counterproductive (why would I want my side blamed for the results if Trump somehow got elected?). I also felt strongly that conservative/libertarian principles were more valuable than to be sold for a couple of magic beans in the form of a liberal, reality TV conman and that by at least educating conservatives to the coming disaster that I might play some very small part it trying to make sure it never happens again. For this stance I have been literally called every dirty name you can think of (and used a few myself in frustrated retaliation), and been accused of actively supporting Hillary for president.

However, as time has gone on I have realized that there is a flaw in my premise. I thought that I understood what it meant to be a conservative or a Republican. To me that involved believing in limited government, a strong national defense, fiscal responsibility, constitutional principles, character and honesty in our leadership, and accountability for one’s own actions. What I have been very late to realize is that none of these things are particularly important in today’s Republican Party because the platform apparently got completely changed without anyone telling me.

In fact, a list of what “Republicans” now stand for has nothing at all to do with policy or principle, but rather is filled with beliefs about very specific concepts. For instance, being a member of the current GOP pretty much requires you to pledge allegiance to most, if not all, of the following views:

• That Hillary and Bill Clinton are at least an accessories to murder if not murderers, the DNC killed a member of its staff for leaking her emails, her use of which was the greatest national security breech in history, and Vince Foster killed himself because of Hillary nagging him (assuming he really wasn’t murdered).
• Hillary Clinton is hiding a severe illness which makes her incapable of holding office and which will soon cause her death (well, at least we might not have to worry about her serving two full terms!).
• President Obama is easily the worst president in history, a Muslim terrorist sympathizer, the founder of ISIS, and likely wasn’t really born in the United States.
• The Republican “establishment” is a bunch of impotent losers because they lost two elections to a media darling and can’t override vetoes without a super majority, but a guy who has never been truly leading a candidate like Hillary in the polls is a sure winner.
• Conservative writers at the National Review and Weekly Standard along with Charles Krauthammer, George Will and Brit Hume are all out-of-touch wimps who can’t be trusted to tell us the truth, but Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity, Matt Drudge and Alex Jones would never lie to us for profit (expect for maybe that whole Alex Jones “9/11 Truther” thing, which we’ll sort of pretend didn’t happen).
• When in doubt, Trump is always right, no matter what he has said in the past, even when it has directly contradicted his previous statement, and even if that happens on the same day, or in the same interview.
• Deporting illegal immigrants and building a huge wall on our Mexican border is the most important thing we must do, unless Trump changes his mind.
• There is nothing more significant (especially now that we’ve forgotten about that whole illegal immigration thing) than making sure that the person who picks the next Supreme Court justice is the same guy who was recently favors eminent domain and curtailing the First Amendment, and who picked Arsenio Hall and Piers Morgan as the “Celebrity Apprentice.”
• The news media has never been more biased than they are against Trump, which is why they gave him two billion dollars in free advertising in the primaries and why he just hired the head of a major conservative “news” outlet to head his campaign while using Sean Hannity and Roger Ailes as advisors.
• The background of a potential First Lady and her ability to properly represent the country no longer matters (that’s so 2008!).
• Experience in public office no longer matters (that’s so 2008!).
• Using a Teleprompter is good, unless it is bad (that’s so 2008!).
• Flip-flopping means nothing (so 2004!).
• Releasing your tax returns (even when you entire campaign is based on your wealth) means nothing.
• Words mean nothing.
• Having class or decency means nothing.
• Limited government means nothing.
• Fiscal responsibility means nothing.
• Cozying up to Vladimir Putin is numerous bizarre ways means nothing.
• Campaigning as an amazing manager of people but running a campaign that is in constant chaos and disarray means nothing.
• Lying is a total disqualifier for Hillary, but when Trump lies it is simply part of the “Art of the Deal.”
• Polls are either wrong or part of a massive nonsensical conspiracy, unless Trump is winning.
  Facts mean nothing (unless they are sanctified by Matt Drudge, in which case they are then gospel).
• Stories from “mainstream” media sources are inherently wrong, even if all they are doing is reporting Trump’s actual words.
• Hillary is the worst person who has ever lived and would be such a dangerous president that we must do everything possible to defeat her, except actually bother to consider electability when it comes to picking our nominee.

So it is now all so clear to me. It’s not that Donald Trump isn’t a conservative or a Republican. It’s that I’m not.
All Along I Thought Trump Wasn’t a Conservative/Republican, But Now I Realize I’m Not

I imagine there are millions of Republicans that are still wondering when did we lose the party platform of Lincoln and Reagan--and end up with this new party of Donald Trump. Who's responsible for that, and why didn't they inform the majority of the party, (moderate Republicans) of this change--LOL

This is the greatest post I have ever seen on this forum.

I will bump it as often as I can until I get bored.

Yep it came off of a Republican Face Book thread--someone captured it--and it's true. The party has been hijacked--and no one notified anyone of the new platform.

No one hijacked the party.

If you are a conservative, you have no representation in government and never have had any. People are voted into office to make government "bigger" and "better" every single time.

It is more like you are beginning to wake up to the reality of politics than anything.

So if you want a free phone or abortion or college education, etc., just vote accordingly.

Yeah--they did. In fact the platform is more extreme than ever.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/19/opinion/the-most-extreme-republican-platform-in-memory.html?_r=0

Mitt Romney lost in 2012 because the Reich wing of the party dragged the party into women's issues, abortion, who's not going to pay for birth control pills, and what is legal legitimate rape questions. His fate was sealed long before he even became the nominee of the party.

No one sent out a mailer to Republicans asking if it was O.K. to argue a 45 year old U.S. Supreme court decision on a political platform. No one notified us that several Knuckle dragging neanderthals would be on the debate platform stage (again) whom are very capable of sending women--Hispanics running from this party with just a few words. But they were there.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/richardfinger/2012/11/09/why-romney-lost-and-republicans-keep-
losing/#5334ae341420
The GOP's woman problem goes beyond Trump

No one notified us--that we would be inundated with Benghazi and emails, and or if we thought that would be the right approach to win a National election. They did it anyway.

No one notified us that we were going to go out on attack of 17% of the population this year, and become wall building experts, they just did it.

This is no longer the party of Lincoln or Reagan. It is the party of Trump. An all white party, full of anger, ignorance, bigotry, misogyny & extremism. After this election the party will be reduced to an all white, mostly male, ignorant, angry focus group.

Now it's the Trump party--because the Reich wing hijacked the old party.
You Wanted Trump, You’ve Got Him | The American Spectator

As are millions of other Republicans. I have been a registered Republican for over 40 years, this party is no longer recognizable to me. It no longer represents me. Henceforth I have changed my party status to Independent and will be voting for Hillary Clinton.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"Who's responsible for that..."

Moderate Republicans who entered into a Faustian bargain with the social right, libertarian reactionaries, and TPM nitwits.

In essence, you have only yourselves to blame.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

For over a year now I have been trying to warn Republicans and conservatives about Donald Trump. During this time period I have always been certain that he was not one of us and that his presence in the Republican primaries would either directly, or indirectly lead to Hillary Clinton’s election.

I have continued to sound this alarm even after his nomination, largely because I knew that the general election, barring a catastrophic event, was effectively over as soon as Trump was the GOP candidate. To me, resistance was futile and counterproductive (why would I want my side blamed for the results if Trump somehow got elected?). I also felt strongly that conservative/libertarian principles were more valuable than to be sold for a couple of magic beans in the form of a liberal, reality TV conman and that by at least educating conservatives to the coming disaster that I might play some very small part it trying to make sure it never happens again. For this stance I have been literally called every dirty name you can think of (and used a few myself in frustrated retaliation), and been accused of actively supporting Hillary for president.

However, as time has gone on I have realized that there is a flaw in my premise. I thought that I understood what it meant to be a conservative or a Republican. To me that involved believing in limited government, a strong national defense, fiscal responsibility, constitutional principles, character and honesty in our leadership, and accountability for one’s own actions. What I have been very late to realize is that none of these things are particularly important in today’s Republican Party because the platform apparently got completely changed without anyone telling me.

In fact, a list of what “Republicans” now stand for has nothing at all to do with policy or principle, but rather is filled with beliefs about very specific concepts. For instance, being a member of the current GOP pretty much requires you to pledge allegiance to most, if not all, of the following views:

• That Hillary and Bill Clinton are at least an accessories to murder if not murderers, the DNC killed a member of its staff for leaking her emails, her use of which was the greatest national security breech in history, and Vince Foster killed himself because of Hillary nagging him (assuming he really wasn’t murdered).
• Hillary Clinton is hiding a severe illness which makes her incapable of holding office and which will soon cause her death (well, at least we might not have to worry about her serving two full terms!).
• President Obama is easily the worst president in history, a Muslim terrorist sympathizer, the founder of ISIS, and likely wasn’t really born in the United States.
• The Republican “establishment” is a bunch of impotent losers because they lost two elections to a media darling and can’t override vetoes without a super majority, but a guy who has never been truly leading a candidate like Hillary in the polls is a sure winner.
• Conservative writers at the National Review and Weekly Standard along with Charles Krauthammer, George Will and Brit Hume are all out-of-touch wimps who can’t be trusted to tell us the truth, but Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity, Matt Drudge and Alex Jones would never lie to us for profit (expect for maybe that whole Alex Jones “9/11 Truther” thing, which we’ll sort of pretend didn’t happen).
• When in doubt, Trump is always right, no matter what he has said in the past, even when it has directly contradicted his previous statement, and even if that happens on the same day, or in the same interview.
• Deporting illegal immigrants and building a huge wall on our Mexican border is the most important thing we must do, unless Trump changes his mind.
• There is nothing more significant (especially now that we’ve forgotten about that whole illegal immigration thing) than making sure that the person who picks the next Supreme Court justice is the same guy who was recently favors eminent domain and curtailing the First Amendment, and who picked Arsenio Hall and Piers Morgan as the “Celebrity Apprentice.”
• The news media has never been more biased than they are against Trump, which is why they gave him two billion dollars in free advertising in the primaries and why he just hired the head of a major conservative “news” outlet to head his campaign while using Sean Hannity and Roger Ailes as advisors.
• The background of a potential First Lady and her ability to properly represent the country no longer matters (that’s so 2008!).
• Experience in public office no longer matters (that’s so 2008!).
• Using a Teleprompter is good, unless it is bad (that’s so 2008!).
• Flip-flopping means nothing (so 2004!).
• Releasing your tax returns (even when you entire campaign is based on your wealth) means nothing.
• Words mean nothing.
• Having class or decency means nothing.
• Limited government means nothing.
• Fiscal responsibility means nothing.
• Cozying up to Vladimir Putin is numerous bizarre ways means nothing.
• Campaigning as an amazing manager of people but running a campaign that is in constant chaos and disarray means nothing.
• Lying is a total disqualifier for Hillary, but when Trump lies it is simply part of the “Art of the Deal.”
• Polls are either wrong or part of a massive nonsensical conspiracy, unless Trump is winning.
  Facts mean nothing (unless they are sanctified by Matt Drudge, in which case they are then gospel).
• Stories from “mainstream” media sources are inherently wrong, even if all they are doing is reporting Trump’s actual words.
• Hillary is the worst person who has ever lived and would be such a dangerous president that we must do everything possible to defeat her, except actually bother to consider electability when it comes to picking our nominee.

So it is now all so clear to me. It’s not that Donald Trump isn’t a conservative or a Republican. It’s that I’m not.
All Along I Thought Trump Wasn’t a Conservative/Republican, But Now I Realize I’m Not

I imagine there are millions of Republicans that are still wondering when did we lose the party platform of Lincoln and Reagan--and end up with this new party of Donald Trump. Who's responsible for that, and why didn't they inform the majority of the party, (moderate Republicans) of this change--LOL

Stopped reading at "one of US"

Liar

Actually not.

There are some of us old enough to remember real Republicans, before you sold your souls to fear, bigotry, ignorance, and hate..

 

[oreo]

"Who's responsible for that..."

Moderate Republicans who entered into a Faustian bargain with the social right, libertarian reactionaries, and TPM nitwits.

In essence, you have only yourselves to blame.

Yep--