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Trump's "alt-right" credentials are weak sauce compared to Lincoln, a true white nationalist.This is the greatest post I have ever seen on this forum.For over a year now I have been trying to warn Republicans and conservatives about Donald Trump. During this time period I have always been certain that he was not one of us and that his presence in the Republican primaries would either directly, or indirectly lead to Hillary Clinton’s election.
I have continued to sound this alarm even after his nomination, largely because I knew that the general election, barring a catastrophic event, was effectively over as soon as Trump was the GOP candidate. To me, resistance was futile and counterproductive (why would I want my side blamed for the results if Trump somehow got elected?). I also felt strongly that conservative/libertarian principles were more valuable than to be sold for a couple of magic beans in the form of a liberal, reality TV conman and that by at least educating conservatives to the coming disaster that I might play some very small part it trying to make sure it never happens again. For this stance I have been literally called every dirty name you can think of (and used a few myself in frustrated retaliation), and been accused of actively supporting Hillary for president.
However, as time has gone on I have realized that there is a flaw in my premise. I thought that I understood what it meant to be a conservative or a Republican. To me that involved believing in limited government, a strong national defense, fiscal responsibility, constitutional principles, character and honesty in our leadership, and accountability for one’s own actions. What I have been very late to realize is that none of these things are particularly important in today’s Republican Party because the platform apparently got completely changed without anyone telling me.
In fact, a list of what “Republicans” now stand for has nothing at all to do with policy or principle, but rather is filled with beliefs about very specific concepts. For instance, being a member of the current GOP pretty much requires you to pledge allegiance to most, if not all, of the following views:
So it is now all so clear to me. It’s not that Donald Trump isn’t a conservative or a Republican. It’s that I’m not.
- That Hillary and Bill Clinton are at least an accessories to murder if not murderers, the DNC killed a member of its staff for leaking her emails, her use of which was the greatest national security breech in history, and Vince Foster killed himself because of Hillary nagging him (assuming he really wasn’t murdered).
- Hillary Clinton is hiding a severe illness which makes her incapable of holding office and which will soon cause her death (well, at least we might not have to worry about her serving two full terms!).
- President Obama is easily the worst president in history, a Muslim terrorist sympathizer, the founder of ISIS, and likely wasn’t really born in the United States.
- The Republican “establishment” is a bunch of impotent losers because they lost two elections to a media darling and can’t override vetoes without a super majority, but a guy who has never been truly leading a candidate like Hillary in the polls is a sure winner.
- Conservative writers at the National Review and Weekly Standard along with Charles Krauthammer, George Will and Brit Hume are all out-of-touch wimps who can’t be trusted to tell us the truth, but Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity, Matt Drudge and Alex Jones would never lie to us for profit (expect for maybe that whole Alex Jones “9/11 Truther” thing, which we’ll sort of pretend didn’t happen).
- When in doubt, Trump is always right, no matter what he has said in the past, even when it has directly contradicted his previous statement, and even if that happens on the same day, or in the same interview.
- Deporting illegal immigrants and building a huge wall on our Mexican border is the most important thing we must do, unless Trump changes his mind.
- There is nothing more significant (especially now that we’ve forgotten about that whole illegal immigration thing) than making sure that the person who picks the next Supreme Court justice is the same guy who was recently favors eminent domain and curtailing the First Amendment, and who picked Arsenio Hall and Piers Morgan as the “Celebrity Apprentice.”
- The news media has never been more biased than they are against Trump, which is why they gave him two billion dollars in free advertising in the primaries and why he just hired the head of a major conservative “news” outlet to head his campaign while using Sean Hannity and Roger Ailes as advisors.
- The background of a potential First Lady and her ability to properly represent the country no longer matters (that’s so 2008!).
- Experience in public office no longer matters (that’s so 2008!).
- Using a Teleprompter is good, unless it is bad (that’s so 2008!).
- Flip-flopping means nothing (so 2004!).
- Releasing your tax returns (even when you entire campaign is based on your wealth) means nothing.
- Words mean nothing.
- Having class or decency means nothing.
- Limited government means nothing.
- Fiscal responsibility means nothing.
- Cozying up to Vladimir Putin is numerous bizarre ways means nothing.
- Campaigning as an amazing manager of people but running a campaign that is in constant chaos and disarray means nothing.
- Lying is a total disqualifier for Hillary, but when Trump lies it is simply part of the “Art of the Deal.”
- Polls are either wrong or part of a massive nonsensical conspiracy, unless Trump is winning.
Facts mean nothing (unless they are sanctified by Matt Drudge, in which case they are then gospel).- Stories from “mainstream” media sources are inherently wrong, even if all they are doing is reporting Trump’s actual words.
- Hillary is the worst person who has ever lived and would be such a dangerous president that we must do everything possible to defeat her, except actually bother to consider electability when it comes to picking our nominee.
All Along I Thought Trump Wasn’t a Conservative/Republican, But Now I Realize I’m Not
I imagine there are millions of Republicans that are still wondering when did we lose the party platform of Lincoln and Reagan--and end up with this new party of Donald Trump. Who's responsible for that, and why didn't they inform the majority of the party, (moderate Republicans) of this change--LOL
I will bump it as often as I can until I get bored.
Yep it came off of a Republican Face Book thread--someone captured it--and it's true. The party has been hijacked--and no one notified anyone of the new platform.
No one hijacked the party.
If you are a conservative, you have no representation in government and never have had any. People are voted into office to make government "bigger" and "better" every single time.
It is more like you are beginning to wake up to the reality of politics than anything.
So if you want a free phone or abortion or college education, etc., just vote accordingly.
Yeah--they did. In fact the platform is more extreme than ever.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/19/opinion/the-most-extreme-republican-platform-in-memory.html?_r=0
Mitt Romney lost in 2012 because the Reich wing of the party dragged the party into women's issues, abortion, who's not going to pay for birth control pills, and what is legal legitimate rape questions. His fate was sealed long before he even became the nominee of the party.
No one sent out a mailer to Republicans asking if it was O.K. to argue a 45 year old U.S. Supreme court decision on a political platform. No one notified us that several Knuckle dragging neanderthals would be on the debate platform stage (again) whom are very capable of sending women--Hispanics running from this party with just a few words. But they were there.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/richardfinger/2012/11/09/why-romney-lost-and-republicans-keep-
losing/#5334ae341420
The GOP's woman problem goes beyond Trump
No one notified us--that we would be inundated with Benghazi and emails, and or if we thought that would be the right approach to win a National election. They did it anyway.
No one notified us that we were going to go out on attack of 17% of the population this year, and become wall building experts, they just did it.
This is no longer the party of Lincoln or Reagan. It is the party of Trump. An all white party, full of anger, ignorance, bigotry, misogyny & extremism. After this election the party will be reduced to an all white, mostly male, ignorant, angry focus group.
Now it's the Trump party--because the Reich wing hijacked the old party.
You Wanted Trump, You’ve Got Him | The American Spectator
As are millions of other Republicans. I have been a registered Republican for over 40 years, this party is no longer recognizable to me. It no longer represents me. Henceforth I have changed my party status to Independent and will be voting for Hillary Clinton.