The Low-Information Voter: All They Know Is That They're Angry & Its All Obamas Fault

[MarcATL]

Your honor, I present to you Exhibit A: The Low-Information Voter in real-time.

*looking at the post above*

 

[AmericanFirst]

Hawk,

Why are you getting upset at me for pointing out the willful ignorance and stupidity of the low information voters of the right?

Maybe because you are ignorant and stupid. Shutup hack.

 

[Vanquish]

Rachel Maddow is admittedly partisan, but she has a common sense approach that I appreciate. Beck, Rush, Keith, and by the FoxNews crowd's opinion...all other news....it's all partisan.

I gravitate towards Rachel because she ISNT abrasive. I dont want an ass like Olbermann or Matthews or O'Reilly or Hannity. She lays out simple facts then builds them into something sophisticated...yet not losing her "everywoman" appeal.

I read a lot of news from all sources. Its the only way to honestly try to look at the issues. I'm sure a lot of you do it if you're posting on this forum. And as for these "personality shows"...taken as a whole, they suck. Rachel is the only one worth watching.

 

[AmericanFirst]

Soggy, there is no way in hell a sane or honest person could defend a person being so strong and firm on an issue or issues that they have absolutely NO facts to back it up on.

Rachel asked them directly..."What SPECIFICALLY did he do to prevent or attack 2nd amendment rights." They BOTH ended up responding with "I don't have the facts at the moment."

But they were BOTH absolutely SURE that he was anti 2nd amendments.

Dude...that's the DEFINITION of ignorance, willful ignorance at that.

Whether or not they could give specifics, they answered correctly. Bozobama has demonstrated that he does not favor 2nd amendment rights. He voted for a bill that would ban nearly every hunting rifle, shotgun and target rifle owned by Illinois citizens. That same bill would authorize the state police to raid homes of gun owners to forcibly confiscate banned guns. Obama supported a bill that would shut down law-abiding firearm manufacturers including Springfield Armory, Armalite, Rock River Arms and Les Baer. Obama also voted for a bill that would prohibit law-abiding citizens from purchasing more than one gun per month. While a state senator, Obama voted 4 times against legislation that would allow a homeowner to use a firearm in defense of home and family (Illinois Senate, S.B. 2165, vote 20, 3/25/04).

The Philadelphia Inquirer reports this regarding Obama’s view on the DC gun ban-

Obama personally voiced support for the D.C. ban at other times. In February, Leon Harris, a news anchor for the ABC affiliate in Washington, said to Obama: “One other issue that’s of great importance here in the district as well is gun control … but you support the D.C. handgun ban.” Obama’s simple response: “Right.” When Harris added “and you’ve said that it’s constitutional,” Obama again said “right,” and he is clearly seen on tape nodding his head in agreement.

Hey marcATL, chew on that and choke. Obama is a antigun anti-American socialist!!!!

 

[AmericanFirst]

In other words it doesn't matter WHAT the issue at hand is, who the person is or when...its all Obama's fault.

"Obammer....BAADD!!! Must SMASH!!!"

OK, got it.

Why the fuck are you attempting to put words in my mouth? Oh that's right that's what you kool-aid drinkers do.

Go look at Obama's voting record while he was in the Illinois Senate.

FACT: Barack Obama opposes four of the five Supreme Court justices who affirmed an individual right to keep and bear arms. He voted against the confirmation of Alito and Roberts and he has stated he would not have appointed Thomas or Scalia.

FACT: Barack Obama voted for an Illinois State Senate bill to ban and confiscate “assault weapons,” but the bill was so poorly crafted, it would have also banned most semi-auto and single and double barrel shotguns commonly used by sportsmen.

FACT: Barack Obama voted to allow reckless lawsuits designed to bankrupt the firearms industry.

FACT: Barack Obama wants to re-impose the failed and discredited Clinton Gun Ban.

FACT: Barack Obama voted to ban almost all rifle ammunition commonly used for hunting and sport shooting.

FACT: Barack Obama has endorsed a 500% increase in the federal excise tax on firearms and ammunition.

FACT: Barack Obama has endorsed a complete ban on handgun ownership.

FACT: Barack Obama supports local gun bans in Chicago, Washington, D.C., and other cities.

FACT: Barack Obama voted to uphold local gun bans and the criminal prosecution of people
who use firearms in self-defense.

FACT: Barack Obama supports gun owner licensing and gun registration.

FACT: Barack Obama refused to sign a friend-of-the-court Brief in support of individual Second Amendment rights in the Heller case.

FACT: Barack Obama opposes Right to Carry laws.

FACT: Barack Obama was a member of the Board of Directors of the Joyce Foundation, the leading source of funds for anti-gun organizations and “research.”

FACT: Barack Obama supported a proposal to ban gun stores within 5 miles of a school or park, which would eliminate almost every gun store in America.

FACT: Barack Obama voted not to notify gun owners when the state of Illinois did records searches on them.

FACT: Barack Obama voted against a measure to lower the Firearms Owners Identification card age minimum from 21 to 18, a measure designed to assist young people in the military.

FACT: Barack Obama favors a ban on standard capacity magazines.

FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory micro-stamping.

FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory waiting periods.

FACT: Barack Obama supports repeal of the Tiahrt Amendment, which prohibits information on gun traces collected by the BATFE from being used in reckless lawsuits against firearm dealers and manufacturers.

FACT: Barack Obama supports one-gun-a-month handgun purchase restrictions.

FACT: Barack Obama supports a ban on inexpensive handguns.

FACT: Barack Obama supports a ban on the resale of police issued firearms, even if the money is going to police departments for replacement equipment.

FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory firearm training requirements for all gun owners and a ban on gun ownership for persons under the age of 21.

1. United States Senate, S. 397, vote number 219, July 29, 2005. (U.S. Senate: Legislation & Records Home > Votes > Roll Call Vote)

2. Independent Voters of Illinois/Independent Precinct Organization general candidate questionnaire, Sept. 9, 1996. The responses on this survey were described in “Obama had greater role on liberal survey,” Politico, March 31, 2008. (Obama had greater role on liberal survey - Kenneth P. Vogel - POLITICO.com)

3. United States Senate, S. 397, vote number 217, Kennedy amendment July 29, 2005. (U.S. Senate: Legislation & Records Home > Votes > Roll Call Vote)

4. David Wright, Ursula Fahy and Sunlen Miller, "Obama: `Common Sense Regulation` On Gun Owners` Rights," ABC News` "Political Radar" Blog, Political Punch, 2/15/08. (Obama: 'Common Sense Regulation' on Gun Owners' Rights - Political Radar)

5. Illinois Senate, SB 2165, March 25, 2004, vote 20 and May 25, 2004, vote 3.

6. “Fact Check: No News In Obama`s Consistent Record.” Obama ’08, December 11, 2007. (Organizing for America | BarackObama.com)

7. “Candidates` gun control positions may figure in Pa. vote,” Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, Wednesday, April 2, 2008, and "Keyes, Obama Are Far Apart On Guns," Chicago Tribune, 9/15/04. (Candidates' gun control positions may figure in Pa. vote - Pittsburgh Tribune-Review)

8. 1998 Joyce Foundation Annual Report, p. 7.

9. “Obama and Gun Control,” The Volokh Conspiracy, taken from the Chicago Defender, Dec. 13, 1999. (The Volokh Conspiracy - Obama and Gun Control:)

10. Illinois Senate, May 5, 2002, SB 1936 Con., vote 26.

11. Illinois Senate, March 25, 2004, SB 2163, vote 18.

12. “Clinton, Edwards, Obama on gun control,” Radio Iowa, Sunday, April 22, 2007. (http://learfield.typepad.com/radioiowa/2007/04/clinton_edwards.html)

13. Chicago Tribune blogs, “Barack Obama: NIU Shootings call for action,” February 15, 2008, (The Swamp: Barack Obama: NIU shootings call for action)

14. Barack Obama campaign website: “As president, Barack Obama would repeal the Tiahrt Amendment . . .” (Organizing for America | BarackObama.com | Policy Issues.)

15. Illinois Senate Debate #3: Barack Obama vs. Alan Keyes (Barack Obama on Gun Control and Illinois Senate Debate #3: Barack Obama vs. Alan Keyes) Oct 21, 2004.

16. Illinois Senate, May 16, 2003, HB 2579, vote 34.

17. United States Senate vote 245, September 29, 2005 and vote 2, January 31, 2006 and Saddleback Forum, August 16, 2008.

18. Illinois Senate Judiciary Committee, March 13, 2003. To see the vote tally go to: http://www.nrapvf.org/Media/pdf/sb1195_obama.pdf.

And your response is?

Where'd you go MarcAtl?

He ran with his tail between his legs.

 

[Vanquish]

FACT: Barack Obama voted to allow reckless lawsuits designed to bankrupt the firearms industry.

Which of your footnotes backs this one up...I'm not following.

The use of the word "reckless" kind of takes that from FACT to SPIN. Besides, there are more than enough protections against invalid lawsuits. I call bullshit, but I'm willing to read your footnote.

 

[AmericanFirst]

Present proof FAQ...of the Left "doing the exact same thing" as the guttersnipe Profitt. I'll wait.

Proof is they voted in a unqualified socialist pawn.

 

[The T]

Your honor, I present to you Exhibit A: The Low-Information Voter in real-time.

*looking at the post above*

Actually Marcie Bub? The poster is correct...but I call him a fuckin' Chicago-Type Street thug, Shit-Disturber MARXIST , Saul Alinskyite, Malignant Narcissist, Little BOY.

How's that for an observation Marcie-Bub?

 

[Mr. Shaman]

The problem is that the majority of Americans disagree with the political class on what are the issues, problems, and solutions.

Only 14% Prefer Government-Regulated Economy Over Free Market
Tuesday, October 26, 2010

Voters overwhelmingly prefer a free market economy to an economy managed by the government and think government economic control helps big businesses at the expense of small ones.

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 75% of Likely U.S. Voters think a free market economy is better than an economy managed by the government. That’s up five points from December 2008 following Barack Obama’s election as president but consistent with findings in surveys since then.

Only 14% think government control of the economy is better. (To see survey question wording, click here).

The Political Class isn’t so sure. Ninety percent (90%) of Mainstream voters prefer a free market economy. Among Political Class voters, however, just 34% feel that way, while 30% like a government-managed economy better and 35% are undecided.

The Political Class??????

To quote George Carlin: What the fuck does THAT mean??!!!

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cwOqKfEYTg[/ame]

You'd expect.....in all Rasmussen's wisdom....they'd come-up with SOME kind o' goddamned-definition!!!!

Granted, it's some kind o' throw-away term....that appears to mean absolutely ZERO....that 'Baggers would glom-onto, and repeatedly throw-around without knowing what-the-Hell it means....but, it ALSO makes this entire Report worth absolutely-ZIP!!!!!!

 

[Mr. Shaman]

The OP to it from Rachel. That is all I need to know to dismiss it as partisan crap.

The fact you agree.....with a Report that means absolutely nothing....is hardly (that's not-hardly, for you Bush-fans) surprising.

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[Mr. Shaman]

Seems the voters have a pretty good idea of where they want change:

They also think extending BUSHCO's tax-cuts is a good-idea.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wDdWJcpJj0[/ame]​

 

[Rinata]

Now we have Michele Batshit going on and on about Obama's India trip being 200 million a day and his "entourage." A totally made-up story. Aside from that Presidents travel to meet world leaders, as a part of t heir job description.

We see where and how the low-information get their motivation and "leadership" from.

My God these people are stupid!


*SMH*

I just finised watching Hardball. It isn't just that dumb broad. It was her, Limbaugh, and the incredibly stupid Beck.

The question came up as to why the right is lying like this and acting as though this trip is something Obama is not good enough to do. Why is he different from other presidents?? They also criticized the fact that he was going to India.

The president said he is going on the trip to talk about opening up additional markets in places like India, so that American businesses can sell more products abroad in order to create more jobs here at home. Where was he supposed to go??? Denmark???

It's getting clearer and clearer all the time to the people that took so long to get it. I think Chris and Joan Walsh finally do.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

So I'm home now watching MSNBC, rewound my DVR to about 3 hours and luckily caught the better portion of Rachel Maddow's show. She's now in Alaska to interview Joe Miller and others.

Still watching, but just before this commercial break she asks some angry, clearly, RW voters some things and they start shouting out things like "Get rid of Eric Holder" She asks why are they against Eric Holder. One shouts back, "He's against guns." She asked the lady why? "What has Eric Holder specifically done that is against guns?" She responds with "he's voted down the line that are all anti-gun. Rachel then explains to her that Eric Holder has never had to vote on anything, he's not in Congress or in Senate. Some back and forth, with Rachel sincerely trying to figure what exactly do they have that tells them that Eric is "anti-gun." She ends up saying that she doesn't have all the facts on hand, but she just KNOWS he's anti gun.

Then a younger male, white, as well as the lady above, BTW, chimes in spewing the same nonsense. Again Rachel asks the young man, "What specifically has Eric done that is against the 2nd Amendment." He starts to flutter, then says, "Rachel, just Google Eric Holder and 2nd Amendment and Guns and you'll see all the ammo there." She responds, I will, but why are you currently so angry, what specically has he done that has you so angry....he says, he doesn't have all the facts on hand, but if she Googles it she will find it. And he was sincerely asking her to do so.

Then another older lady who's REALLY angry now, again, white, tells her "The black panthers is why I'm mad at Eric Holder." She's visibly livid on camera and ready to shout and Rachel asks her what about the Black Panthers, the lady replies "Voter Intimidation...not being prosecuted!" Rachel informs her that it was decided by the Bush Administration that there was nothing to prosecute the lone 2 New Black Panthers for. Then she cuts the camera back to where she was at the time, live, and then tells the audience that s he continued to question the woman, who got even more angry. Then told that she cut off the camera and had another very long convo with the lady who then calmed down. The lady told her that she's voting for Miller because Obama's not prosecuting the NBPs because they are black...so she's voting for Joe Miller.


This, folks, is the atmosphere that FOXNews has created. FOX LOVES the Low Information Voter.

WoW!!

*SMH*

Same thing happened in 2006 and 2008... It was Bush's fault for everything....

Payback is hell isn't it...

Hmmmmmmmmmmm......he gave the 1%ers MEGA-tax-cuts....right BEFORE he launched a War, based on BULLSHIT-INTELLIGENCE.....both-of-which drove our economy straight-into-a-ditch.

Yeah.....that pretty-much covers EVERYTHING HE DID!!!!

 

[Mr. Shaman]

These people are panicked by economic and environmental ruination (there has been leaks/spills in Alaska of late), they have been jerked all over hell and back by the finest propaganda machine man ever created, they are preoccupied trying to stay afloat and cannot study on every issue like a PhD candidate........

Rachel Maddow has an abrasive style (at least when I watched her) and a calm conversation with any of these people about what concerns them most could have been had, Marc. Maddow made time and place choices that maximized their ignorance and fear.

Yanno, one criticism of the left is that we look down on "regular people". Ain't that more or less what you are doing?

No, this is not what I'm doing. A "regular person" doesn't just get livid with NOTHING factual or reasonable backing it up. If this is what a "regular person" in America is today. We got some MAJOR problems.

These people are drunk on FOXNews, and FOXNews has PURPOSELY fed them a steady diet of lies and propoganda. These people are people who already leaned a certain way, and what FNN has done is spread the sickness from those with absolutely no sense to those with a little bit of sense to those with some sense...all on the right.

I don't appreciate you suggesting that I outright have something against "regular people," the facts just doesn't bear that out.

Edit:
Oh, and to suggest that Rachel Maddow's interview style is somehow..."abrasive" I think that's near laughable. I'd like to know what and how you define abrasive, also, what examples do you have on her being such as well. You want to know whats abrasive, or who...Bill O'Reilly...that's abrasive if I ever seen it.

O.K., either one o' you....define "regular".

The 'Baggers (here) are badly in-need of a lesson on point-of-reference.....'cause theirs' seems to keep movin'-around. ​

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Ima gonna vote Democrat cuz they're not Republican and Bush is Republican. ...typical 2008 presidential election voter

Ah, yes.....how could we possibly have questioned Bush-logic/consistency????

BTW....you DO realize that presidential election voter would include, like, EVERYONE who votes in a Presidential-election, right?? ​

 

[Flagwavrusa]

So I'm home now watching MSNBC, rewound my DVR to about 3 hours and luckily caught the better portion of Rachel Maddow's show. She's now in Alaska to interview Joe Miller and others.

Still watching, but just before this commercial break she asks some angry, clearly, RW voters some things and they start shouting out things like "Get rid of Eric Holder" She asks why are they against Eric Holder. One shouts back, "He's against guns." She asked the lady why? "What has Eric Holder specifically done that is against guns?" She responds with "he's voted down the line that are all anti-gun. Rachel then explains to her that Eric Holder has never had to vote on anything, he's not in Congress or in Senate. Some back and forth, with Rachel sincerely trying to figure what exactly do they have that tells them that Eric is "anti-gun." She ends up saying that she doesn't have all the facts on hand, but she just KNOWS he's anti gun.

Then a younger male, white, as well as the lady above, BTW, chimes in spewing the same nonsense. Again Rachel asks the young man, "What specifically has Eric done that is against the 2nd Amendment." He starts to flutter, then says, "Rachel, just Google Eric Holder and 2nd Amendment and Guns and you'll see all the ammo there." She responds, I will, but why are you currently so angry, what specically has he done that has you so angry....he says, he doesn't have all the facts on hand, but if she Googles it she will find it. And he was sincerely asking her to do so.

Then another older lady who's REALLY angry now, again, white, tells her "The black panthers is why I'm mad at Eric Holder." She's visibly livid on camera and ready to shout and Rachel asks her what about the Black Panthers, the lady replies "Voter Intimidation...not being prosecuted!" Rachel informs her that it was decided by the Bush Administration that there was nothing to prosecute the lone 2 New Black Panthers for. Then she cuts the camera back to where she was at the time, live, and then tells the audience that s he continued to question the woman, who got even more angry. Then told that she cut off the camera and had another very long convo with the lady who then calmed down. The lady told her that she's voting for Miller because Obama's not prosecuting the NBPs because they are black...so she's voting for Joe Miller.


This, folks, is the atmosphere that FOXNews has created. FOX LOVES the Low Information Voter.

WoW!!

*SMH*

Oh no you dont, studies have shown that the average Republican voter is way more educated and knowledgeable than the average democrat. You don't appeal to democratic voters by reason, you give them free food like Harry Reid.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Then another older lady who's REALLY angry now, again, white, tells her "The black panthers is why I'm mad at Eric Holder." She's visibly livid on camera and ready to shout and Rachel asks her what about the Black Panthers, the lady replies "Voter Intimidation...not being prosecuted!" Rachel informs her that it was decided by the Bush Administration that there was nothing to prosecute the lone 2 New Black Panthers for. Then she cuts the camera back to where she was at the time, live, and then tells the audience that s he continued to question the woman, who got even more angry. Then told that she cut off the camera and had another very long convo with the lady who then calmed down. The lady told her that she's voting for Miller because Obama's not prosecuting the NBPs because they are black...so she's voting for Joe Miller.


This, folks, is the atmosphere that FOXNews has created. FOX LOVES the Low Information Voter.

WoW!!

*SMH*

Or maybe she cut the camera because she just lied. The Bush administration did not drop the case, the DOJ filed suit against the two men in Jan 2009 two weeks before Bush left office. When none of the defendants showed up to court in April/May, it was assumed the lawsuit would win, but the Obama admin led DOJ dismissed the suit.

Racheal Maddow is a lyng hack. She shovels bullshit to idiots like you who believe it.



John Fund: Black Panther Voter Intimidation Case Dropped - WSJ.com

New Black Panther Party voter intimidation case - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

EXCLUSIVE: Career lawyers overruled on voting case - Washington Times


Then even after all that it was brought up again and yet again the Hussein admin shut it down:

Then the Washington Times reported on July 30 that six career lawyers at Justice who had recommended continuing to pursue the case were overruled by Associate Attorney General Thomas Perrelli—a top administration political appointee. One of the career attorneys, Appellate Chief Diana Flynn, had urged in an internal memo that a judgment be pressed against the defendants to "prevent the paramilitary style intimidation of voters" in the future.

Now who is the low-informed voter?

It was a bullshit-issue, primarily because....."...no voters had complained."

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[Mr. Shaman]

The racist ill-informed voter making a thread about supposed ill-informed voters... priceless

You can always be relied-upon to add (absolutely) nothing....but, your White-Separatist sales-pitch....to any thread (you visit)....at any-given-time.

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[Mr. Shaman]

These people are panicked by economic and environmental ruination (there has been leaks/spills in Alaska of late), they have been jerked all over hell and back by the finest propaganda machine man ever created, they are preoccupied trying to stay afloat and cannot study on every issue like a PhD candidate........

Rachel Maddow has an abrasive style (at least when I watched her) and a calm conversation with any of these people about what concerns them most could have been had, Marc. Maddow made time and place choices that maximized their ignorance and fear.

Yanno, one criticism of the left is that we look down on "regular people". Ain't that more or less what you are doing?

No, this is not what I'm doing. A "regular person" doesn't just get livid with NOTHING factual or reasonable backing it up. If this is what a "regular person" in America is today. We got some MAJOR problems.

These people are drunk on FOXNews, and FOXNews has PURPOSELY fed them a steady diet of lies and propoganda. These people are people who already leaned a certain way, and what FNN has done is spread the sickness from those with absolutely no sense to those with a little bit of sense to those with some sense...all on the right.

I don't appreciate you suggesting that I outright have something against "regular people," the facts just doesn't bear that out.

Edit:
Oh, and to suggest that Rachel Maddow's interview style is somehow..."abrasive" I think that's near laughable. I'd like to know what and how you define abrasive, also, what examples do you have on her being such as well. You want to know whats abrasive, or who...Bill O'Reilly...that's abrasive if I ever seen it.

Provide a list of the alleged lies and propaganda that Fox News spreads.

WHICH day's lies were you interested-in????? ​

 

[Rozman]

Now we have Michele Batshit going on and on about Obama's India trip being 200 million a day and his "entourage." A totally made-up story. Aside from that Presidents travel to meet world leaders, as a part of t heir job description.

We see where and how the low-information get their motivation and "leadership" from.

My God these people are stupid!


*SMH*

Chris Mathews reasoning as to why the right is screaming about the Presidents trip to India and this after he played the actual video of the right bitching about the cost says the reason for it is because the President is Black...... video after video showed people complaining about the so called 200 million a day price tag and Mathews says its all about race.

I am real tired of being called a racist by this fuck......I disagree with this President because of his actions,plain and simple.

Just because Mathews has an Orgasm every time Obama looks at him when Chris watches TV doesn't mean I have to.