The Lost Cause

[Correll]

Hi guys.


I've been getting a lot from our friends on the Left, recently, about the Lost Cause (of the Confederacy).


I am curious as to what they think or fear would happen if, the Lost Cause gained acceptance.


I am asking people for their opinion, on What If the Lost Cause was the Conventional Wisdom in America today.



Lost Cause of the Confederacy - Wikipedia



"The Lost Cause of the Confederacy, or simply the Lost Cause, is an ideological movement that describes the Confederatecause as a heroic one against great odds despite its defeat. The ideology endorses the alleged virtues of the antebellum South, viewing the American Civil War as an honorable struggle for the Southern way of life[1] while minimizing or denying the central role of slavery.

The Lost Cause ideology synthesized numerous ideas. Lost Cause supporters argued that slavery was not the main cause of the Civil War, and claimed that few scholars saw it as such before the 1950s.[2]...

Supporters often stressed the idea of secession as a defense against a Northern threat to their way of life and said that the threat violated the states' rights guaranteed by the Constitution. They believed any state had the right to secede, a point strongly denied by the North. The Lost Cause portrayed the South as more adherent to Christian values than the allegedly greedy North. It portrayed slavery as more benevolent than cruel, alleging that it taught Christianity and "civilization." Stories of "happy slaves" were often used as propaganda in an effort to defend slavery. These stories would be used to explain slavery to Northerners. Many times they also portrayed slave owners being kind to their slaves. In explaining Confederate defeat, the Lost Cause said that the main factor was not qualitative inferiority in leadership or fighting ability but the massive quantitative superiority of the Yankee industrial machine.[5] At the peak of troop strength in 1863, Union soldiers outnumbered Confederate soldiers by over two to one, and financially the Union had three times the bank deposits of the Confederacy.[6]"

 

[JakeStarkey]

The unreconstructed have been trying for 150 years to legitimize the Lost Cause.

That has not happened and probably will not.

 

[bendog]

The unreconstructed have been trying for 150 years to legitimize the Lost Cause.

That has not happened and probably will not.

The Lost Cause was a political movement that arose in the 1890s and early 20th century. Mississippi adopted a new constitution, mandating segregation in education and healthcare. New Orleans did much the same, and erected the confederate statutes that Mitch Landrieu helped take down, and the ones in Charlottesville.

It is a political myth, that was not shared by REL or Longstreet. It's the egg from which birthed the "it wasn't about slavery" myth. If there was no slavery there would not have been a war. It's true that the increasingly immigrant North saw a nation with an expansionist free soil and the South was more about preserving a class based accommodation, and the two were not views that a compromise could reach. But, the South's class base was based in a 1//4 of the citizens being lower than cattle in legal terms.

 

[easyt65]

The Confederate war is a scar, one of many, on this country. Each scar tells a story ... of mistakes made, hardships/attacks endured, and lessons learned.

The Confederate war was not only about slavery but an e economic situation between the industrialized north and the cotton/farming plantation south that resulted in a war over ways of life, the growth, and the evolution of a nation.

Opposed to what others say, no southerners look back longingly at the south before the confederate war and remember slavery. They look back and long for the 'romantic' south, one of big beautiful dresses / hoop skirts, balls, mint julips in the front porch, and a slower pace.

Yeah, if you completely ignore the slavery that made all of that possible its not that bad of a memory / vision.

But the LOST CAUSE, thank God, is over. That original slavery is dead and gone.There are no more slaves. No one is born into captivity / slavery.

Physical slavery was replaced, over a long bloody violent time, with economic slavery - addicting minorities to 'free stuff' and government dependency.

This President, however, has delivered the strongest economy in decades...the lowest unemployment rate for minorities IN RECORDED HISTORY - no more dependency on handouts, welfare, food stamps, unemployment, and big gub'mint.

Unfortunately, groups like Antifa / BLM / the Black Fist seek to keep us divided - have taken Russian cash to spread racial division, hate, and violence. Race-baiting hucksters like Jesse Jackson & Al Sharpton have turned racism into an industry, and politicians use it to divide and bring people to the election boots through manipulation.

There are still 2 sides at war for the soul of the nation, 1 creating and profiting from division while the other attempts to unify.

IMHO...

 

[Correll]

The unreconstructed have been trying for 150 years to legitimize the Lost Cause.

That has not happened and probably will not.

The Lost Cause was a political movement that arose in the 1890s and early 20th century. Mississippi adopted a new constitution, mandating segregation in education and healthcare. New Orleans did much the same, and erected the confederate statutes that Mitch Landrieu helped take down, and the ones in Charlottesville.

It is a political myth, that was not shared by REL or Longstreet. It's the egg from which birthed the "it wasn't about slavery" myth. If there was no slavery there would not have been a war. It's true that the increasingly immigrant North saw a nation with an expansionist free soil and the South was more about preserving a class based accommodation, and the two were not views that a compromise could reach. But, the South's class base was based in a 1//4 of the citizens being lower than cattle in legal terms.

So, what would happen if this belief system because the accepted Conventional Wisdom in the US?


That is the question of the op.

 

[danielpalos]

Hi guys.


I've been getting a lot from our friends on the Left, recently, about the Lost Cause (of the Confederacy).


I am curious as to what they think or fear would happen if, the Lost Cause gained acceptance.


I am asking people for their opinion, on What If the Lost Cause was the Conventional Wisdom in America today.



Lost Cause of the Confederacy - Wikipedia



"The Lost Cause of the Confederacy, or simply the Lost Cause, is an ideological movement that describes the Confederatecause as a heroic one against great odds despite its defeat. The ideology endorses the alleged virtues of the antebellum South, viewing the American Civil War as an honorable struggle for the Southern way of life[1] while minimizing or denying the central role of slavery.

The Lost Cause ideology synthesized numerous ideas. Lost Cause supporters argued that slavery was not the main cause of the Civil War, and claimed that few scholars saw it as such before the 1950s.[2]...

Supporters often stressed the idea of secession as a defense against a Northern threat to their way of life and said that the threat violated the states' rights guaranteed by the Constitution. They believed any state had the right to secede, a point strongly denied by the North. The Lost Cause portrayed the South as more adherent to Christian values than the allegedly greedy North. It portrayed slavery as more benevolent than cruel, alleging that it taught Christianity and "civilization." Stories of "happy slaves" were often used as propaganda in an effort to defend slavery. These stories would be used to explain slavery to Northerners. Many times they also portrayed slave owners being kind to their slaves. In explaining Confederate defeat, the Lost Cause said that the main factor was not qualitative inferiority in leadership or fighting ability but the massive quantitative superiority of the Yankee industrial machine.[5] At the peak of troop strength in 1863, Union soldiers outnumbered Confederate soldiers by over two to one, and financially the Union had three times the bank deposits of the Confederacy.[6]"

Lee had to force a decisive Union defeat in his campaign of Southern Aggression upon the North, to influence the British. It didn't happen; the South should have requested Eminent Domain for their property, instead. We have a First Amendment.

 

[Correll]

Hi guys.


I've been getting a lot from our friends on the Left, recently, about the Lost Cause (of the Confederacy).


I am curious as to what they think or fear would happen if, the Lost Cause gained acceptance.


I am asking people for their opinion, on What If the Lost Cause was the Conventional Wisdom in America today.



Lost Cause of the Confederacy - Wikipedia



"The Lost Cause of the Confederacy, or simply the Lost Cause, is an ideological movement that describes the Confederatecause as a heroic one against great odds despite its defeat. The ideology endorses the alleged virtues of the antebellum South, viewing the American Civil War as an honorable struggle for the Southern way of life[1] while minimizing or denying the central role of slavery.

The Lost Cause ideology synthesized numerous ideas. Lost Cause supporters argued that slavery was not the main cause of the Civil War, and claimed that few scholars saw it as such before the 1950s.[2]...

Supporters often stressed the idea of secession as a defense against a Northern threat to their way of life and said that the threat violated the states' rights guaranteed by the Constitution. They believed any state had the right to secede, a point strongly denied by the North. The Lost Cause portrayed the South as more adherent to Christian values than the allegedly greedy North. It portrayed slavery as more benevolent than cruel, alleging that it taught Christianity and "civilization." Stories of "happy slaves" were often used as propaganda in an effort to defend slavery. These stories would be used to explain slavery to Northerners. Many times they also portrayed slave owners being kind to their slaves. In explaining Confederate defeat, the Lost Cause said that the main factor was not qualitative inferiority in leadership or fighting ability but the massive quantitative superiority of the Yankee industrial machine.[5] At the peak of troop strength in 1863, Union soldiers outnumbered Confederate soldiers by over two to one, and financially the Union had three times the bank deposits of the Confederacy.[6]"

Lee had to force a decisive Union defeat in his campaign of Southern Aggression upon the North, to influence the British. It didn't happen; the South should have requested Eminent Domain for their property, instead. We have a First Amendment.

Nothing in that in any way addresses the op. Thanks for coming by though.


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