The liberals are not relenting on the global warming bullshit. Behold John Kerry.

No thanks. The science is settled. AGW no more needs debate than does the germ theory.

Interesting.. I must have missed the memo when 97% of climate scientists AGREED on what the temp anomaly was gonna be in 2053... Within a degree please...

The only science that's settled is that CO2 ALONE cannot raise the surface more than a 1degC or so per each doubling of concentration.. And THAT is NOT a Weapon of Mass Destruction.
 
Hilarious. They cannot even see how they changed the terminology from MAN MADE global warming to CLIMATE CHANGE for a reason.

The Bush administration made that change. Do keep up with the basics, eh?

It must suck for you that all you have are conspiracies piled on top of conspiracies. That's why the whole planet considers you denialists to be liars and laughingstocks. Outside of the right-wing fringe cult, denialism doesn't exist. Denialism is simply one of the many 'tard mantras that the right-wing fringe cult is required to chant, such as saying that ozone depletion was faked, that DDT was harmless, or that President Obama is a socialist.

Just like the brainwashed hack you are, who apparently will not acknowledge any of the scams run by these fraudulent green companies. The reason for that is you are too stupid to question anything. Reason for that is you are nothing but a hypocrite. I bet you smell too.

Here is the rest of the quote you gullible piece of steaming shit.

They cannot even bring themselves to admit there are scams at all. How brainwashed does one need to be to not even acknowledge the vast numbers of scams, and massive sums of money being generated by ths bullshit. How many failed green movement companies have been funded, only to see the company go bankrupt and no one can account for the millions of dollars lost. The press certainly would not ever investigate that, and if they did they are relegated to flat earthers.

Of course Kerry goes to the same favorite boogie man for all demented hypocritical liberals who benefit from so many petroleum based products. THE BIG OIL INDUSTRY. Code word for right wing white republicans. To them BIG OIL is the same thing as the Tea Party, which is the same thing as the KKK.

Yes folks, they cannot even see how the science industry relies heavily on government grants, and they refuse to follow the money. They certainly refuse to acknowledge the scientists that refute the claim that MAN MADE global warming is a fact. There is no consensus for that, and there never will be. They can kick, scream, laugh and always think they are the smartest ones in the room, like the arrogant hypocritical dipshits they are. Hell, they are so ridiculous they think they are actually doing something for the planet, by.....oh......agreeing with each other.

Mean while 99.9% of these morons would shit if they ever got rid of all of those products that the evil BIG OIL industry was eradicated. I swear they want it eradicated. Now, watch folks. They will now deny they want the BIG OIL industry eradicated.


Fucking hypocrites. So easy to lie to these know it alls.
 
hilarious. They cannot even see how they changed the terminology from man made global warming to climate change for a reason.

the bush administration made that change. Do keep up with the basics, eh?

It must suck for you that all you have are conspiracies piled on top of conspiracies. That's why the whole planet considers you denialists to be liars and laughingstocks. Outside of the right-wing fringe cult, denialism doesn't exist. Denialism is simply one of the many 'tard mantras that the right-wing fringe cult is required to chant, such as saying that ozone depletion was faked, that ddt was harmless, or that president obama is a socialist.

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Hilarious. They cannot even see how they changed the terminology from MAN MADE global warming to CLIMATE CHANGE for a reason.

The Bush administration made that change. Do keep up with the basics, eh?

It must suck for you that all you have are conspiracies piled on top of conspiracies. That's why the whole planet considers you denialists to be liars and laughingstocks. Outside of the right-wing fringe cult, denialism doesn't exist. Denialism is simply one of the many 'tard mantras that the right-wing fringe cult is required to chant, such as saying that ozone depletion was faked, that DDT was harmless, or that President Obama is a socialist.

If you want to keep up with the basics, mamooth, it wasn't the Bush administration it was the pollster Frank Lutz. :eusa_whistle:

You might want to Google "AGW scientists jumping ship"
You know....just to get the other perspective than your fear mongering masters.
31,000 US scientists can't all be wrong.
 
Remember when I asked morons like mamooth, rightwinger and truthmatters if they bought carbon credits from Gore? They avoided that question.

So, lets get back to that, shall we? Just for goofs and giggles and illustrate how utterly stupid and hypocritical they are.

IF buying carbon credits worked (us thinkers said it was a scam at the time) then how could there still be man made global warming going on? If there is still indeed MAN MADE global warming going on (as they still insist) then that means the buying of carbon credits has made no impact at all (just like us thinkers said at the time).

So, will they admit that is a big giant fucking scam, that they were conned into buying? Or will they totally obfuscate from the fact that they actually backed that fucking fat piece of shit?

They sure as shit did not answer these questions the last time?

So, in review.....

Did they buy carbon credits?

What is their official carbon footprint?

Are they capable of admitting that it must be a failure, since it has seemingly had no impact whatsoever?

Or are they going to say that the whole planet needs to buy carbon credits for 50 years in order to see any impact?

Aren't liberals pathetic?
 
Nothing you've said makes the slightest difference. AGW is real. The threat is real. How you feel about it changes nothing.
 
My Way News - In Indonesia, Kerry blasts climate change deniers

JAKARTA, Indonesia (AP) - Climate change may be the world's "most fearsome" weapon of mass destruction and urgent global action is needed to combat it, U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry said on Sunday, comparing those who deny its existence or question its causes to people who insist the Earth is flat.

In a speech to Indonesian students, civic leaders and government officials in Jakarta, Kerry laid into climate change skeptics, accusing them of using shoddy science and scientists to delay measures needed to reduce emissions of greenhouse gases at the risk of imperiling the planet. He also went after those who dispute who is responsible for such emissions, arguing that everyone and every country must take responsibility and act immediately.

"We simply don't have time to let a few loud interest groups hijack the climate conversation," he said, referring to what he called "big companies" that "don't want to change and spend a lot of money" to act to reduce the risks. He later singled out big oil and coal concerns as the primary offenders.

"We should not allow a tiny minority of shoddy scientists and science and extreme ideologues to compete with scientific facts," Kerry told the audience gathered at a U.S. Embassy-run American Center in a Jakarta shopping mall. "Nor should we allow any room for those who think that the costs associated with doing the right thing outweigh the benefits."


"The science is unequivocal, and those who refuse to believe it are simply burying their heads in the sand," Kerry said. "We don't have time for a meeting anywhere of the Flat Earth Society,"

Kerry, saying that 97 percent of scientists who have weighed in on the issue agree that the phenomenon is real, argued that the cost of inaction to environments and economies will far outweigh the significant expense of reducing greenhouse gas emissions that trap solar heat in the atmosphere and contribute to the Earth's rising temperatures.


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There is simply too much money here at stake for these con artists to relent. They know they still have the worlds attention and a majority of the world still does not question where all of the money that has been driven by this world wide scam actually goes.

They will not give up and in fact they will be even more insistent, regardless of people being stranded in the antarctic by thick ice that they went to prove was not there, or the fact the polar ice cap grew by 60% last year.

The California drought certainly helps their scam. Oh, Obama is all over it, isn't he? Cause Obama would never tell a lie, right? Right?
Droughts in Ca. are not uncommon and the scientists have stated that several through the centuries have lasted for decades.
Obama tipped his hand in regards to this being no more than politics.
 
Hilarious. They cannot even see how they changed the terminology from MAN MADE global warming to CLIMATE CHANGE for a reason.

The Bush administration made that change. Do keep up with the basics, eh?

It must suck for you that all you have are conspiracies piled on top of conspiracies. That's why the whole planet considers you denialists to be liars and laughingstocks. Outside of the right-wing fringe cult, denialism doesn't exist. Denialism is simply one of the many 'tard mantras that the right-wing fringe cult is required to chant, such as saying that ozone depletion was faked, that DDT was harmless, or that President Obama is a socialist.

To be skeptical is to be true to science.

To embrace this cult of global warming and climate change is to be a deeply religious devotee.

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Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, particularly in claims that are far fetched or that violate physical laws.

Skepticism is an essential, and meaningful, component of the search for truth.


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Hilarious. They cannot even see how they changed the terminology from MAN MADE global warming to CLIMATE CHANGE for a reason.

The Bush administration made that change. Do keep up with the basics, eh?

It must suck for you that all you have are conspiracies piled on top of conspiracies. That's why the whole planet considers you denialists to be liars and laughingstocks. Outside of the right-wing fringe cult, denialism doesn't exist. Denialism is simply one of the many 'tard mantras that the right-wing fringe cult is required to chant, such as saying that ozone depletion was faked, that DDT was harmless, or that President Obama is a socialist.

To be skeptical is to be true to science.

To embrace this cult of global warming and climate change is to be a deeply religious devotee.

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I've always been skeptical and believe that the forcing is quite low. Even mockton believes in global warming and found that a doubling of co2 would cause about 1.2c of total warming.
 
Saw the science guy "debating" a right wing politician from Tennessee this morning on a talk show.

She giggled and smirked on the split screen every time he talked.

Worse, she had that ignorant "yawl" "Jethro/Ellie Mae" accent so many have.

It is nice seeing someone who is both reputable and has a scientific background at least trying to educate those on the right. I feel it's a lost cause. These people have lost the ability to actually "learn" anything significant.

Reminds me of Pat Robertson. This is a guy who believes gays walk around with AIDS "stick rings" giving people AIDS when they shake hands. Who believe 9/11 happened because God was angry gays are allowed to exist in this country. A guy who mused about how nice it would be if everyone in America was "forced" to become his type of Christian.

This nutjob fruitcake said evolution is so documented that if you don't accept it, you run the risk of being a "joke". It's the same with climate change.

Yeah Genus...Pure Genus


'science Guy' Bill Nye Confuses South Pole With North In Global Warming Debate around 8:30 minute mark


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zFruNyiUHQ]Climate Change Debate: BILL NYE vs CONGRESSWOMAN MARSHA BLACKBURN - YouTube[/ame]
 
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To be skeptical is to be true to science.

But you and the rest of the folks here who reject AGW have not demonstrated the least bit of scientific skepticism.

To embrace this cult of global warming and climate change is to be a deeply religious devotee.

This charge makes no sense and never has. AGW is very widely held to be valid by the vast majority of climate scientists and scientists in general BASED ON THE EVIDENCE. When you hear people telling us that we can't trust this evidence, can't believe these data, because this might be the case or that could be what's actually happening or because this other part just seems more likely - there you have an expression of belief by faith; belief without cause and despite the evidence. When, someone tells you that the Greenhouse Effect is not real because it hasn't gotten any warmer in the last ten years, they are coming to conclusions not supported by the evidence. Just like that evangelical preacher they are trying to convince you of truths based on anecdotes carefully selected to avoid the conflicts that the full dataset holds to their claims. If you are truly a skeptic, you would demand to know WHY the surface warming stopped and WHY it was taking place to begin with. Assuming that the little wiggle at the end of this graph refutes the rest of this temperature increase, is not a rational conclusion.

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AGW is a product of the scientific method. By an enormous margin it is the likeliest explanation for the warming we've experienced.
 
This charge makes no sense and never has. AGW is very widely held to be valid by the vast majority of climate scientists and scientists in general BASED ON THE EVIDENCE.

AGW is a product of the scientific method. By an enormous margin it is the likeliest explanation for the warming we've experienced.
You just contradicted yourself.

Most scientists are not involved in it, those that are may have a majority OPINION but that is not a scientific fact. The fact that it is not unanimous means that not all are on board with the theory. Scientists often change their views, like with the big bang.

Showing charts of general warming trends doesn't prove it's a man made phenomenom. The Earth has always warmed and cooled. And the source is something we have no control over. That doesn't mean we shouldn't be responsible but as we advance technologically, so does our ability to control emissions. It would be foolish to jump headlong into a very expensive endevour and make energy cost prohibitive. Who would it hurt? The top wage earners? Nope.

Sun Blamed for Warming of Earth and Other Worlds | LiveScience
Earth is heating up lately, but so are Mars, Pluto and other worlds in our solar system, leading some scientists to speculate that a change in the sun’s activity is the common thread linking all these baking events.
 
This charge makes no sense and never has. AGW is very widely held to be valid by the vast majority of climate scientists and scientists in general BASED ON THE EVIDENCE.

AGW is a product of the scientific method. By an enormous margin it is the likeliest explanation for the warming we've experienced.
You just contradicted yourself.

Most scientists are not involved in it, those that are may have a majority OPINION but that is not a scientific fact. The fact that it is not unanimous means that not all are on board with the theory. Scientists often change their views, like with the big bang.

Showing charts of general warming trends doesn't prove it's a man made phenomenom. The Earth has always warmed and cooled. And the source is something we have no control over. That doesn't mean we shouldn't be responsible but as we advance technologically, so does our ability to control emissions. It would be foolish to jump headlong into a very expensive endevour and make energy cost prohibitive. Who would it hurt? The top wage earners? Nope.

Sun Blamed for Warming of Earth and Other Worlds | LiveScience
Earth is heating up lately, but so are Mars, Pluto and other worlds in our solar system, leading some scientists to speculate that a change in the sun’s activity is the common thread linking all these baking events.


imagine that, the sun warming the the earth...Wow what a concept:eusa_eh:... The earth warms, the earth cools. We didn't cause, it nor do we have any control over it. Some people are really so pampas as to think we can control the earths climate :cuckoo: Others make lots of money off of it. Still others want the power and control over our personal lives. It's the craziest thing really, how people so easily surrender to the elitist, who of course know whats good for all of us
 
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I still have not seen a conservative deny there is climate change.

Don't you love liberals?

They still think climate change and MAN MADE global warming are the same. Yet, in the thread I started a few weeks ago, liberals said they were not the same thing, and then there were those that said they were the same thing.

So, to them climate change is the same thing as MAN MADE global warming. They are not the same thing. No one is saying climate change does not happen. They have no idea what they are saying when they call us deniers. They actually think they think we are denying climate change.

Why?


Their morons in on the left changed the term for more reasons than one. They still equate the two, even though many of them admit they are not. They will thank each other on posts that contradict each other.

Why?

Cause they are liberals, which means they are mentally disturbed, on top of the absolute fact that they are brainwashed sheep.
 
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In related news, the liberals are also still clinging to evolution, gravity and the round earth theory.

Idiot.

Climate Change is a Constant and regardless of Human Activity it would be happening.

You have very little Tangible Evidence that covers this Entire Globe that goes back more than probably 25 years that you could even start concluding anything about anything.

Arctic Ice was supposed to be a thing of the past in the Summer by 2013 according to the "Experts" yet it grew by 29% from 2012 to 2013.

When my State was Hot, Dry and on Fire a decade ago because of CYCLES, your side was saying, "get used to it"... Instead we've seen a trend of cold and moisture since...

This Winter a FUCK LOAD of WAY Below Average Cold and Moisture.

The Trends are not towards "Global Warming" right now and that's why your side has started to lean towards "Climate Change" so you can Blame ANY out of Average Weather on America and then Suggest Retarding our Dominance in the World as a Remedy.

Dishonest Fucking Societal Anarchist Bitch Bastards.

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peace...
 
Nothing you've said makes the slightest difference. AGW is real. The threat is real. How you feel about it changes nothing.

AGW is nothing but a huge swindle. The threat from cooties is greater than the threat from global warming. People are waking up to the fact and starting to rightly ignore the AGW Chicken Littles.
 
If the president and all of his scientific advisors are saying something. Who are we to disagree with people far more knowledge then us?

Mindlessly accepting the proclamations for self-serving government bureaucrats is the path to totalitarianism. Skepticism is the root of all science. Mindless acceptance is the foundation of dogma.
 
My Way News - In Indonesia, Kerry blasts climate change deniers

JAKARTA, Indonesia (AP) - Climate change may be the world's "most fearsome" weapon of mass destruction and urgent global action is needed to combat it, U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry said on Sunday, comparing those who deny its existence or question its causes to people who insist the Earth is flat.

In a speech to Indonesian students, civic leaders and government officials in Jakarta, Kerry laid into climate change skeptics, accusing them of using shoddy science and scientists to delay measures needed to reduce emissions of greenhouse gases at the risk of imperiling the planet. He also went after those who dispute who is responsible for such emissions, arguing that everyone and every country must take responsibility and act immediately.

"We simply don't have time to let a few loud interest groups hijack the climate conversation," he said, referring to what he called "big companies" that "don't want to change and spend a lot of money" to act to reduce the risks. He later singled out big oil and coal concerns as the primary offenders.

"We should not allow a tiny minority of shoddy scientists and science and extreme ideologues to compete with scientific facts," Kerry told the audience gathered at a U.S. Embassy-run American Center in a Jakarta shopping mall. "Nor should we allow any room for those who think that the costs associated with doing the right thing outweigh the benefits."


"The science is unequivocal, and those who refuse to believe it are simply burying their heads in the sand," Kerry said. "We don't have time for a meeting anywhere of the Flat Earth Society,"

Kerry, saying that 97 percent of scientists who have weighed in on the issue agree that the phenomenon is real, argued that the cost of inaction to environments and economies will far outweigh the significant expense of reducing greenhouse gas emissions that trap solar heat in the atmosphere and contribute to the Earth's rising temperatures.


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There is simply too much money here at stake for these con artists to relent. They know they still have the worlds attention and a majority of the world still does not question where all of the money that has been driven by this world wide scam actually goes.

They will not give up and in fact they will be even more insistent, regardless of people being stranded in the antarctic by thick ice that they went to prove was not there, or the fact the polar ice cap grew by 60% last year.

The California drought certainly helps their scam. Oh, Obama is all over it, isn't he? Cause Obama would never tell a lie, right? Right?
Droughts in Ca. are not uncommon and the scientists have stated that several through the centuries have lasted for decades.
Obama tipped his hand in regards to this being no more than politics.
I thought Kerry was Defense Secretary. He sounds like he doesn't want to wait to be POTUS by subbing for the EPA too.

Obama's administration is so chaotic lately, nothing at all orderly about it. :evil: What a PITA all of them are.
 

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