The Left's Reality Disconnect, What did their Party do about things the Left cries about?

[bedowin62]

All you ever see from left-wingers here are pathetic whines how bad things are, how bad the system is. While they are crying how hopelessly horrible our system is many are crying their Progressive agenda is being held hostage, incredibly, by the very people they claim Progressives are so much smarter than, so superior to in every way. Really?? So how does that work?

What has the Democrat Party done about anything the Left cries about on a daily basis here?
it IS A GIVEN that the Left will cry and whine "obstruction" but when you actually look at the record what did Democrats even TRY to do about the things they complain about? How many corporate subsidies did Democrats even TRY to end for exaple? Can i have the whole list? Let's see who is afraid of the truth and who isnt here.

 

[bedowin62]

i love the way the Left cowardly avoids topics that deal in reality in favor of mindless stupidity based on false narratives like, say, the stuff rdean posts.

 

[midcan5]

Anyone who reads history realizes our best years were after the war, when unions were strong, when manufacturing was here, when consumers rebuilt lives after the war, when taxes were the highest on those who gained most from America's freedoms, what changed? Americans became spoiled and isolated and businesses and the wealthy fought the New Deal and Great Society with money, education, and think tanks that do anything but think. And guess what, the education worked, the entitlement worked and no longer did America live up to its principles. Good stuff below for the reader of history.

"Something is profoundly wrong with the way we live today. For thirty years we have made a virtue out of the pursuit of material self-interest: indeed, this very pursuit now constitutes whatever remains of our sense of collective purpose. We know what things cost but have no idea what they are worth. We no longer ask of a judicial ruling or a legislative act: is it good? Is it fair? Is it just? Is it right? Will it help bring about a better society or a better world? Those used to be the political questions, even if they invited no easy answers. We must learn once again to pose them." Tony Judt 'Ill Fares the Land'

This is Your Story - The Progressive Story of America. Pass It On.

"A great transformation of American politics began during the years that Ronald Reagan was in the White House. This might not, at first, have appeared the likely outcome of his two administrations. Conservative activists (the same ones who would in later years celebrate Reagan as a saint) struggled during the 1980s with various disappointments: as president, Reagan did not end abortion, he met with Soviet leader Mikhail Corbachev, and he failed to eliminate the welfare state or even notably shrink government bureaucracies. And the enthusiasm within the business community that followed his election did not last long, as the economy sank into a deep recession, with unemployment rising to nearly 10 percent in 1982. As the manufacturing belt began to rust over, political conflicts between industrial companies desperately seeking subsidies and protection and those businesses that were able to thrive in global free markets grew more heated and intense. Tensions erupted between the owners of stock - newly confident and aggressive about using their financial power to compel management to do anything to raise returns - and career corporate executives. Today, the economic changes that began during the 1980s have an air of inevitability about them - the advent of globalization, the shift to a service economy. But at the time these transformations proved devastating to many of the manufacturing companies that had once most vociferously protested the New Deal.

And yet over the course of the decade the old skepticism toward business that had been born in the Great Depression and reawakened for a new generation in the Vietnam era finally began to disappear. The economic transformations of the decade would be interpreted through the framework of the free market vision. The 1970s campaigns to revive the image of capitalism among college students bore fruit in the 1980s. Universities created new centers for the study of business themes such as entrepreneurship. Students in Free Enterprise, a group started in 1975 to bring students together to "discuss what they might do to counteract the stultifying criticism of American business," thrived on small college campuses, funded by companies like Coors, Dow Chemical, and Walmart (as well as the Business Roundtable). The group organized battles of the bands, at which prizes would be doled out to the best pro-business rock anthems, helped silkscreen T-shirts with pro-capitalist messages, and created skits based on Milton Friedman's writings, which college students would perform in local elementary schools. In the workplace, the decline of the old manufacturing cities of [he North and Midwest and the rise of the sprawling suburbs of the Sunbelt metropolises marked the rise of a new economic culture, dominated by companies such as Walmart and Home Depot and Barnes & Noble." Kim Phillips-Fein ('Invisible Hands')


"The ideologue of the left is no more liberal than the ideologue of the right, for neither believes in humility before the facts and logic, respect for the experience and views of others, and the importance of making a supreme effort to avoid irrationality. Reactionaries and revolutionaries betray conservatism and liberalism alike. Those who move with some tentativeness and uncertainty as experience and judgment guide them to the best and wisest conclusions of which they are capable, they alone deserve to be called liberals and may claim that name with pride."
Procedure or dogma: the core of liberalism by John Silber - The New Criterion

"If history teaches us anything about politics it is this: Given enough time, liberals always win. The US was forged in liberalism, and has become more liberal with each generation. The leftward movement has seldom been smooth or consistent, but it has been unstoppable." Keith A. Pickering

Is there a Liberal Media Bias? | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum
Is there a Liberal Media Bias? | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

 

[bedowin62]

Ever notice the more the Left posts the less they actually say??^^^^^^

if you look at the history of the Left they have always had to rely heavily on PROPAGANDA

 

[bedowin62]

Since the Left insists on posting spoon-fed propaganda here; perhaps the REAL story of the American Progressive movement should be told here..................................................????????

 

[candycorn]

yawn

332-206
reality

 

[Moonglow]

yawn

332-206
reality

Someone is loaded with shit to shoot this morn...

 

[rightwinger]

All you ever see from left-wingers here are pathetic whines how bad things are, how bad the system is. While they are crying how hopelessly horrible our system is many are crying their Progressive agenda is being held hostage, incredibly, by the very people they claim Progressives are so much smarter than, so superior to in every way. Really?? So how does that work?

What has the Democrat Party done about anything the Left cries about on a daily basis here?
it IS A GIVEN that the Left will cry and whine "obstruction" but when you actually look at the record what did Democrats even TRY to do about the things they complain about? How many corporate subsidies did Democrats even TRY to end for exaple? Can i have the whole list? Let's see who is afraid of the truth and who isnt here.

What did we do?

We passed Obamacare which has provided insurance to 8 million previously uninsured
We passed same sex marriage laws and convinced the Supreme Court to make it the law of the land
We repealed DADT
We removed the Bush tax cuts for millionaires


Now, what have Republicans accomplished in the last six years?

 

[bedowin62]

All you ever see from left-wingers here are pathetic whines how bad things are, how bad the system is. While they are crying how hopelessly horrible our system is many are crying their Progressive agenda is being held hostage, incredibly, by the very people they claim Progressives are so much smarter than, so superior to in every way. Really?? So how does that work?

What has the Democrat Party done about anything the Left cries about on a daily basis here?
it IS A GIVEN that the Left will cry and whine "obstruction" but when you actually look at the record what did Democrats even TRY to do about the things they complain about? How many corporate subsidies did Democrats even TRY to end for exaple? Can i have the whole list? Let's see who is afraid of the truth and who isnt here.

What did we do?

We passed Obamacare which has provided insurance to 8 million previously uninsured
We passed same sex marriage laws and convinced the Supreme Court to make it the law of the land
We repealed DADT
We removed the Bush tax cuts for millionaires


Now, what have Republicans accomplished in the last six years?

the goal was 40 million idiot; tell me i'm lying

now how many of THAT 8 million were "previously uninsured" only because they LOST THE INSURANCE THEY HAD BECAUSE OF OBAMACARE?

 

[rightwinger]

All you ever see from left-wingers here are pathetic whines how bad things are, how bad the system is. While they are crying how hopelessly horrible our system is many are crying their Progressive agenda is being held hostage, incredibly, by the very people they claim Progressives are so much smarter than, so superior to in every way. Really?? So how does that work?

What has the Democrat Party done about anything the Left cries about on a daily basis here?
it IS A GIVEN that the Left will cry and whine "obstruction" but when you actually look at the record what did Democrats even TRY to do about the things they complain about? How many corporate subsidies did Democrats even TRY to end for exaple? Can i have the whole list? Let's see who is afraid of the truth and who isnt here.

What did we do?

We passed Obamacare which has provided insurance to 8 million previously uninsured
We passed same sex marriage laws and convinced the Supreme Court to make it the law of the land
We repealed DADT
We removed the Bush tax cuts for millionaires


Now, what have Republicans accomplished in the last six years?

the goal was 40 million idiot; tell me i'm lying

now how many of THAT 8 million were "previously uninsured" only because they LOST THE INSURANCE THEY HAD BECAUSE OF OBAMACARE?

The OP claims that liberals talk the talk but do not walk the walk. I have posted where liberals have accomplished what they said they would do

In spite of all their bluster....what have Conservatives accomplished?

 

[Moonglow]

All you ever see from left-wingers here are pathetic whines how bad things are, how bad the system is. While they are crying how hopelessly horrible our system is many are crying their Progressive agenda is being held hostage, incredibly, by the very people they claim Progressives are so much smarter than, so superior to in every way. Really?? So how does that work?

What has the Democrat Party done about anything the Left cries about on a daily basis here?
it IS A GIVEN that the Left will cry and whine "obstruction" but when you actually look at the record what did Democrats even TRY to do about the things they complain about? How many corporate subsidies did Democrats even TRY to end for exaple? Can i have the whole list? Let's see who is afraid of the truth and who isnt here.

What did we do?

We passed Obamacare which has provided insurance to 8 million previously uninsured
We passed same sex marriage laws and convinced the Supreme Court to make it the law of the land
We repealed DADT
We removed the Bush tax cuts for millionaires


Now, what have Republicans accomplished in the last six years?

the goal was 40 million idiot; tell me i'm lying

now how many of THAT 8 million were "previously uninsured" only because they LOST THE INSURANCE THEY HAD BECAUSE OF OBAMACARE?

The OP claims that liberals talk the talk but do not walk the walk. I have posted where liberals have accomplished what they said they would do

In spite of all their bluster....what have Conservatives accomplished?

Act like bedwetter and stomp their feet as they scream...

 

[candycorn]

All you ever see from left-wingers here are pathetic whines how bad things are, how bad the system is. While they are crying how hopelessly horrible our system is many are crying their Progressive agenda is being held hostage, incredibly, by the very people they claim Progressives are so much smarter than, so superior to in every way. Really?? So how does that work?

What has the Democrat Party done about anything the Left cries about on a daily basis here?
it IS A GIVEN that the Left will cry and whine "obstruction" but when you actually look at the record what did Democrats even TRY to do about the things they complain about? How many corporate subsidies did Democrats even TRY to end for exaple? Can i have the whole list? Let's see who is afraid of the truth and who isnt here.

What did we do?

We passed Obamacare which has provided insurance to 8 million previously uninsured
We passed same sex marriage laws and convinced the Supreme Court to make it the law of the land
We repealed DADT
We removed the Bush tax cuts for millionaires


Now, what have Republicans accomplished in the last six years?

Well, they voted to repeal it 50 times....but somehow haven't mustered the manhood to try it when they have majorities in Congress.

 

[rightwinger]

All you ever see from left-wingers here are pathetic whines how bad things are, how bad the system is. While they are crying how hopelessly horrible our system is many are crying their Progressive agenda is being held hostage, incredibly, by the very people they claim Progressives are so much smarter than, so superior to in every way. Really?? So how does that work?

What has the Democrat Party done about anything the Left cries about on a daily basis here?
it IS A GIVEN that the Left will cry and whine "obstruction" but when you actually look at the record what did Democrats even TRY to do about the things they complain about? How many corporate subsidies did Democrats even TRY to end for exaple? Can i have the whole list? Let's see who is afraid of the truth and who isnt here.

What did we do?

We passed Obamacare which has provided insurance to 8 million previously uninsured
We passed same sex marriage laws and convinced the Supreme Court to make it the law of the land
We repealed DADT
We removed the Bush tax cuts for millionaires


Now, what have Republicans accomplished in the last six years?

Well, they voted to repeal it 50 times....but somehow haven't mustered the manhood to try it when they have majorities in Congress.

Republicans threatened to shut down the government and they did it

 

[Wildman]

i love the way the Left cowardly avoids topics that deal in reality...

all you will get from them is grammar and spelling of you OP.

 

[Moonglow]

i love the way the Left cowardly avoids topics that deal in reality...

all you will get from them is grammar and spelling of you OP.

Your

 

[jknowgood]

All you ever see from left-wingers here are pathetic whines how bad things are, how bad the system is. While they are crying how hopelessly horrible our system is many are crying their Progressive agenda is being held hostage, incredibly, by the very people they claim Progressives are so much smarter than, so superior to in every way. Really?? So how does that work?

What has the Democrat Party done about anything the Left cries about on a daily basis here?
it IS A GIVEN that the Left will cry and whine "obstruction" but when you actually look at the record what did Democrats even TRY to do about the things they complain about? How many corporate subsidies did Democrats even TRY to end for exaple? Can i have the whole list? Let's see who is afraid of the truth and who isnt here.

What did we do?

We passed Obamacare which has provided insurance to 8 million previously uninsured
We passed same sex marriage laws and convinced the Supreme Court to make it the law of the land
We repealed DADT
We removed the Bush tax cuts for millionaires


Now, what have Republicans accomplished in the last six years?

Now hold on for years you said only the rich got tax cuts. Are you lying again?

 

[Wildman]

[QUOTE="rightwinger, post: 12321005, member: 20321"]We passed Obamacare which has provided insurance to 8 million previously uninsured[/QUOTE]

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/253472-400000-

immigrants-lose-obamacare-coverage
New government procedures have caused more than 400,000 immigrants to lose healthcare coverage they received under Obamacare this year, according to the Associated Press.

The change in procedure shortens the timeframe during which foreign-born citizens can resolve eligibility issues, which has caused 423,000 people to lose their state-sponsored benefits.
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i wonder if these poor 423,000 were counted in 8,000,000 "immigrants".., who really are illegal aliens.

 

[rightwinger]

Still looking for some conservative accomplishments

Can't be that hard to find ONE can it?

 

[Sallow]

All you ever see from left-wingers here are pathetic whines how bad things are, how bad the system is. While they are crying how hopelessly horrible our system is many are crying their Progressive agenda is being held hostage, incredibly, by the very people they claim Progressives are so much smarter than, so superior to in every way. Really?? So how does that work?

What has the Democrat Party done about anything the Left cries about on a daily basis here?
it IS A GIVEN that the Left will cry and whine "obstruction" but when you actually look at the record what did Democrats even TRY to do about the things they complain about? How many corporate subsidies did Democrats even TRY to end for exaple? Can i have the whole list? Let's see who is afraid of the truth and who isnt here.

Seriously?

Pick up a history book.

I'll point you in the right direction.

-The New Deal.
-Integration of the Military.
-Civil Rights Act.
-Lilly Ledbetter Law.
-ACA.

 

[bedowin62]

All you ever see from left-wingers here are pathetic whines how bad things are, how bad the system is. While they are crying how hopelessly horrible our system is many are crying their Progressive agenda is being held hostage, incredibly, by the very people they claim Progressives are so much smarter than, so superior to in every way. Really?? So how does that work?

What has the Democrat Party done about anything the Left cries about on a daily basis here?
it IS A GIVEN that the Left will cry and whine "obstruction" but when you actually look at the record what did Democrats even TRY to do about the things they complain about? How many corporate subsidies did Democrats even TRY to end for exaple? Can i have the whole list? Let's see who is afraid of the truth and who isnt here.

Seriously?

Pick up a history book.

I'll point you in the right direction.

-The New Deal.
-Integration of the Military.
-Civil Rights Act.
-Lilly Ledbetter Law.
-ACA.

omg YOU just want me to make a fool of you all day long right?
most of that isnt in this century?
and it doesnt even address things i mentioned like corporate subsidies
and the rest are things you still whine about (having the ACA instead of single-payer) and lillly ledbetter which hasnt stopped you idiots from saying women are still being screwed on wages

as usual nothing you post holds up to scrutiny