The Koch network — Republican Conservatives nobody can throw “under the bus”

Tom Paine 1949

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The huge Koch Industries lobbying network & mega-wealthy political donor groups it leads have been in the news in recent years for a number of reasons worth discussing.

A) they control by far the most influential and well financed donor base in Conservative politics.

B) their powerful influence over the Federalist Society and in particular their grooming of Clarence Thomas has recently exposed long-standing ties between this corporate big money network, judges, state government leaders and industry-captured “regulators.”

C) Their hard “turn” against Donald Trump after Jan. 6th 2020 — though it hardly seems to have had any immediate effect — raises important issues for the future.

The 2nd richest completely private capitalist network of companies in America (Charles Koch died in 2019 leaving David Koch in charge) has been a powerful — but usually discreet — force in shaping “Libertarian” anti-government campaigns for decades. David Koch functions in a very different way than, say, Murdoch or Tesla or some prominent Liberal mega-rich “benefactors.”

Nevertheless, their products are probably in your home at this very moment even without your knowledge — perhaps the very toilet paper you use is sold to you by them! But what of their “libertarian” politics?

The footprint of Koch organization campaigns can be found in everything from Trump’s initial tax breaks and anti-regulation policies, to all of his Supreme Court choices, to earlier Republican support for “Citizen’s United” & “free political speech” as a supposed personhood right for corporations & private capitalists to unlimited & anonymous political contributions.

The Koch family were key advocates of the “private charter school” movement’s right to public education funding, home schooling, etc. Now there is a Koch-sponsored upcoming Supreme Court decision likely to roll back “Chevron” case precedents allowing government agencies the right to issue regulations implementing federal legislation that only specifies broad goals … which will dramatically limit regulations on everything from the environment to consumer protection to banking.

Each of these areas of contention and many more have their own histories, and other well-healed lobbying groups often have counterposed views. But the record of success of the anti-union and “Don’t tax the super wealthy” Koch network clearly corresponds to the success of corporate and oligarchic private wealth accumulation in America over the last decades.

One area not often discussed is that this group has also pushed for decades for a more open border, and indeed its food industry processing plants notoriously manage to get around “e-Verify” regulations, even or especially in the Deep South & Southwest, where local Republican politicians otherwise scream loudly over the border crisis, but on this are strangely silent. Indeed, many of these processing plants, like the agricultural work they rely on, could never proceed so profitably without such labor.

The Koch network has now shifted from pushing abstract libertarian ideological views on the border issue to one more oriented toward trying to get centrist legislation passed. It is now working with the Bush dynasty, and even talking with some Democrats, speaking of “comprehensive immigration reform,” including a road to citizenship for many long-term foreigners living & working productively here without legal documentation. Of course like most political groups, it is easy to talk the talk but harder to walk the walk. The Koch brothers even earlier “claimed” differences with Trump’s MAGA philosophy on immigration, but helped his movement in practice: Koch Data Mining Company Helped Inundate Voters With Anti-Immigrant Messages

Finally, I don’t want to argue that the Koch network is unique in the history of American politics, or even Republican or Conservative politics. Way back in our last Gilded Age there were similar networks.

So, besides screaming that the Koch Brothers were always “RINOs” and never “Libertarians” or “Real Americans,” has anyone anything interesting to say about the role of this most influential network of super-wealthy conservative donors?
 
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The huge Koch Industries lobbying network & mega-wealthy political donor groups it leads have been in the news in recent years for a number of reasons worth discussing.

A) they control by far the most influential and well financed donor base in Conservative politics.

B) their powerful influence over the Federalist Society and in particular their grooming of Clarence Thomas has recently exposed long-standing ties between this corporate big money network, judges, state government leaders and industry-captured “regulators.”

C) Their hard “turn” against Donald Trump after Jan. 6th 2020 — though it hardly seems to have had any immediate effect — raises important issues for the future.

The 2nd richest completely private capitalist network of companies in America (Charles Koch died in 2019 leaving David Koch in charge) has been a powerful — but usually discreet — force in shaping “Libertarian” anti-government campaigns for decades. David Koch functions in a very different way than, say, Murdoch or Tesla or some prominent Liberal mega-rich “benefactors.”

Nevertheless, their products are probably in your home at this very moment even without your knowledge — perhaps the very toilet paper you use is sold to you by them! But what of their “libertarian” politics?

The footprint of Koch organization campaigns can be found in everything from Trump’s initial tax breaks and anti-regulation policies, to earlier Republican support for “Citizen’s United” & “free political speech” as a supposed personhood right for corporations (and private capitalists) to unlimited and anonymous political contributions.

The Koch family were key advocates of the “private charter school” movement’s right to public education funding, home schooling, etc. Now there is a Koch-sponsored upcoming Supreme Court decision likely to roll back “Chevron” case precedents allowing government agencies the right to issue regulations implementing federal legislation that only specifies broad goals … which will dramatically limit regulations on everything from the environment to consumer protection to banking.

Each of these areas of contention and many more have their own histories, and other well-healed lobbying groups often have counterposed views. But the record of success of the anti-union and “Don’t tax the super wealthy” Koch network clearly corresponds to the success of corporate and oligarchic private wealth accumulation in America over the last decades.

One area not often discussed is that this group has also pushed for decades for a more open border, and indeed its food industry processing plants notoriously manage to get around e-visa regulations, even or especially in the West and Deep South, where local Republican politicians otherwise scream loudly over the border crisis, but on this are strangely silent. Indeed, many of these processing factories, like the agricultural work they rely on, could never proceed so profitably without such labor.

The Koch network has now shifted from pushing abstract libertarian ideological views on the border issue to one more oriented toward trying to get centrist legislation passed. It is now working with the Bush dynasty, and even talking with some Democrats, speaking of “comprehensive immigration reform,” including a road to citizenship for many long-term foreigners living & working productively here without legal documentation. Of course like most political groups, it is easy to talk the talk but harder to walk the walk. The Koch brothers even earlier “claimed” differences with Trump’s MAGA philosophy on immigration, but helped his movement in practice: Koch Data Mining Company Helped Inundate Voters With Anti-Immigrant Messages

Finally, I don’t want to argue that the Koch network is unique in the history of American politics, or even Republican or Conservative politics. Way back in our last Gilded Age there were similar networks.

So, besides screaming that the Koch Brothers were always “RINOs” and never “Libertarians” or “Real Americans,” has anyone anything interesting to say about the role of this most influential network of super-wealthy conservative donors?
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Somehow their funding has NEVER achieved that funding that Democrats and their Fascist-Marxist friends have achieved each election cycle.
 
Somehow their funding has NEVER achieved that funding that Democrats and their Fascist-Marxist friends have achieved each election cycle.
I've seen some references to Soros in recent days. Ironic how the Koch bros. have cropped up as a diversion. Soros doesn't like being in the spotlight.

This is not an OP about George Soros or a comparison of Soros vs. Koch family political contributions / lobbying efforts. But for partisan assholes who want to make up facts or indulge in making now impossible comparisons, I offer this:

Note to readers: This post, from September 2010, does not reflect the state of play in 2016; in fact, it has been out-of-date for some years. Soon after the Citizens United decision (the same year this post was written) and other legal developments, the Koch brothers became very active at the center of a network of conservative, politically active 501(c) groups that aren’t required to disclose their donors.

The groups, including Americans for Prosperity and Freedom Partners Chamber of Commerce, have collectively spent hundreds of millions of dollars working for or against candidates and/or giving money to other groups doing that kind of work. Nobody knows how much money the Kochs themselves are providing to this network.

George Soros, on the other hand, has been very generous to Democratic super PACs, such as Priorities USA Action, which must publicly list their donors. Because we don’t know how much money the Kochs are providing, it’s virtually impossible to compare them with Soros or anyone else.

A list of top contributors is here — but again, the list doesn’t include the Kochs because many of their checks are written to groups that don’t have to tell us where their funds are coming from.

We encourage you to read the following post from 2010 with this in mind. — September 2016

Capital Rivals: Koch Brothers vs. George Soros - OpenSecrets News
 
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So they support libertarianiwm but are backing whom exactly in 2024?
That is a good question! They were early big backers of Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, but they are probably backing a few other opponents of Trump as well. Nobody seems to know for sure. The Koch network normally gathers together many Conservative multi-millionaires’ and billionaires’ contributions, but it can not force any of them to support a particular candidate.

If Trump remains the Republican candidate, I have no idea what David Koch will do in 2024.
 
They've always been cafeteria "libertarians"....Their recent alignment with the Bush neocons demonstrates that their "libertarianism" was limited to what benefited their immense corporate interests, over the core libertarian attitudes geared toward the individual and the non-aggression principle.
 
The huge Koch Industries lobbying network & mega-wealthy political donor groups it leads have been in the news in recent years for a number of reasons worth discussing.

A) they control by far the most influential and well financed donor base in Conservative politics.

B) their powerful influence over the Federalist Society and in particular their grooming of Clarence Thomas has recently exposed long-standing ties between this corporate big money network, judges, state government leaders and industry-captured “regulators.”

C) Their hard “turn” against Donald Trump after Jan. 6th 2020 — though it hardly seems to have had any immediate effect — raises important issues for the future.

The 2nd richest completely private capitalist network of companies in America (Charles Koch died in 2019 leaving David Koch in charge) has been a powerful — but usually discreet — force in shaping “Libertarian” anti-government campaigns for decades. David Koch functions in a very different way than, say, Murdoch or Tesla or some prominent Liberal mega-rich “benefactors.”

Nevertheless, their products are probably in your home at this very moment even without your knowledge — perhaps the very toilet paper you use is sold to you by them! But what of their “libertarian” politics?

The footprint of Koch organization campaigns can be found in everything from Trump’s initial tax breaks and anti-regulation policies, to all of his Supreme Court choices, to earlier Republican support for “Citizen’s United” & “free political speech” as a supposed personhood right for corporations & private capitalists to unlimited & anonymous political contributions.

The Koch family were key advocates of the “private charter school” movement’s right to public education funding, home schooling, etc. Now there is a Koch-sponsored upcoming Supreme Court decision likely to roll back “Chevron” case precedents allowing government agencies the right to issue regulations implementing federal legislation that only specifies broad goals … which will dramatically limit regulations on everything from the environment to consumer protection to banking.

Each of these areas of contention and many more have their own histories, and other well-healed lobbying groups often have counterposed views. But the record of success of the anti-union and “Don’t tax the super wealthy” Koch network clearly corresponds to the success of corporate and oligarchic private wealth accumulation in America over the last decades.

One area not often discussed is that this group has also pushed for decades for a more open border, and indeed its food industry processing plants notoriously manage to get around “e-Verify” regulations, even or especially in the Deep South & Southwest, where local Republican politicians otherwise scream loudly over the border crisis, but on this are strangely silent. Indeed, many of these processing plants, like the agricultural work they rely on, could never proceed so profitably without such labor.

The Koch network has now shifted from pushing abstract libertarian ideological views on the border issue to one more oriented toward trying to get centrist legislation passed. It is now working with the Bush dynasty, and even talking with some Democrats, speaking of “comprehensive immigration reform,” including a road to citizenship for many long-term foreigners living & working productively here without legal documentation. Of course like most political groups, it is easy to talk the talk but harder to walk the walk. The Koch brothers even earlier “claimed” differences with Trump’s MAGA philosophy on immigration, but helped his movement in practice: Koch Data Mining Company Helped Inundate Voters With Anti-Immigrant Messages

Finally, I don’t want to argue that the Koch network is unique in the history of American politics, or even Republican or Conservative politics. Way back in our last Gilded Age there were similar networks.

So, besides screaming that the Koch Brothers were always “RINOs” and never “Libertarians” or “Real Americans,” has anyone anything interesting to say about the role of this most influential network of super-wealthy conservative donors?
Why don't you just state your opinion and back it up with facts/logic (and be succinct)?
 
They've always been cafeteria "libertarians"....Their recent alignment with the Bush neocons demonstrates that their "libertarianism" was limited to what benefited their immense corporate interests, over the core libertarian attitudes geared toward the individual and the non-aggression principle.

It's a binary system.
No matter what anyone believes, it's still binary in the end.
Supporting anything else is futile.
 
Even so, the Koch's "libertarian" bona fides are little more than a grab bag of policies that primarily favor their corporate interests.
I worked for a large family-owned company for decades and the Koch's are no different (nor are many family-owned operations.) They donate to both sides. They really DGAF who is in there as long as they both vote to benefit the operation.
 
They've always been cafeteria "libertarians"....Their recent alignment with the Bush neocons demonstrates that their "libertarianism" was limited to what benefited their immense corporate interests, over the core libertarian attitudes geared toward the individual and the non-aggression principle.
Excuse me, but the Koch brothers make you seem less a “cafeteria libertarian” … than a “libertarian” street beggar willing to swallow any ideological scraps you can find.

One Koch ran as a Libertarian Party V.P. candidate, and was a founding member of the CATO institute. They have helped fund most other major Libertarian foundations and think tanks and together they funded or published treatises by every major Libertarian thinker in the country, and many outside it.


There are several Wikipedia entries on their libertarian politics, with scores of linked references. A tiny sample:

[George] Koch funds and supports libertarian and free-enterprise policy and advocacy organizations.[36] Two works that have been especially influential upon Koch's philosophy are Ludwig Von Mises' Human Action and F. A. Harper's Why Wages Rise.

After reading Harper's book, Koch became involved with Harper's Institute for Humane Studies, of which he became a principal supporter. He has been on the board of IHS since 1966…. Since the 1980s, IHS has been increasingly interested in aiding the careers of aspiring educators, journalists, and policy professionals…. Among other projects, the IHS runs the Charles G. Koch Summer Fellow Program, which "has supported more than 900 students during eight-week internships at public policy organizations, both in D.C. and around the country."[44] In addition, almost 200 institutions of higher education in the U.S. are funded by the Charles G. Koch Foundation. What all the Koch-funded programs have in common is an interest in studying free societies with an eye to understanding the mechanisms behind the assumption that economic freedom benefits humanity.[44]


[David] Koch was a libertarian. He was the 1980 Libertarian candidate for Vice President of the United States and helped finance the campaign. He founded Citizens for a Sound Economy and donated to advocacy groups and political campaigns, most of which were Republican. Koch became a Republican in 1984; in 2012, he spent over $100 million in a failed bid to oppose the re-election of President Barack Obama.
 
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Excuse me, but the Koch brothers make you seem less a “cafeteria libertarian” … than a “libertarian” street beggar willing to swallow any ideological scraps you can find.

One Koch ran as a Libertarian Party V.P. candidate, and was a founding member of the CATO institute. They have helped fund most other major Libertarian foundations and think tanks and together they funded or published treatises by every major Libertarian thinker in the country, and many outside it.

There are Wikipedia entries on their libertarian politics, with scores of linked references. A tiny sample:

[George] Koch funds and supports libertarian and free-enterprise policy and advocacy organizations.[36] Two works that have been especially influential upon Koch's philosophy are Ludwig Von Mises' Human Action and F. A. Harper's Why Wages Rise.

After reading Harper's book, Koch became involved with Harper's Institute for Humane Studies, of which he became a principal supporter. He has been on the board of IHS since 1966…. Since the 1980s, IHS has been increasingly interested in aiding the careers of aspiring educators, journalists, and policy professionals…. Among other projects, the IHS runs the Charles G. Koch Summer Fellow Program, which "has supported more than 900 students during eight-week internships at public policy organizations, both in D.C. and around the country."[44] In addition, almost 200 institutions of higher education in the U.S. are funded by the Charles G. Koch Foundation. What all the Koch-funded programs have in common is an interest in studying free societies with an eye to understanding the mechanisms behind the assumption that economic freedom benefits humanity.[44]


[David] Koch was a libertarian. He was the 1980 Libertarian candidate for Vice President of the United States and helped finance the campaign. He founded Citizens for a Sound Economy and donated to advocacy groups and political campaigns, most of which were Republican. Koch became a Republican in 1984; in 2012, he spent over $100 million in a failed bid to oppose the re-election of President Barack Obama.
Couldn't care less....For example, their wanting taxpayer funds for scools that they approve of over those they don't is as un-libertarian as you get.....That's merely one example of their cafeteria views.
 
They've always been cafeteria "libertarians"....Their recent alignment with the Bush neocons demonstrates that their "libertarianism" was limited to what benefited their immense corporate interests, over the core libertarian attitudes geared toward the individual and the non-aggression principle.
Excuse me, but the Koch brothers make you seem not so much like a “cafeteria libertarian” — but rather just a “libertarian” street beggar willing to swallow any ideological scraps you can find.

Charles Koch ran as Libertarian Party candidate for Vice President, and with his brother was a founding member of the CATO institute, have helped all the other major Libertarian foundations, and together they funded or published treatises by every major Libertarian thinker in the country.

Here are Wikipedia entries with scores of linked references:


[George] Koch funds and supports libertarian and free-enterprise policy and advocacy organizations.[36] Two works that have been especially influential upon Koch's philosophy are Ludwig Von Mises' Human Action and F. A. Harper's Why Wages Rise. After reading Harper's book, Koch became involved with Harper's Institute for Humane Studies, of which he became a principal supporter … Among other projects, the IHS runs the Charles G. Koch Summer Fellow Program, which "has supported more than 900 students during eight-week internships at public policy organizations, both in D.C. and around the country."[44]

In addition, almost 200 institutions of higher education in the U.S. are funded by the Charles G. Koch Foundation. What all the Koch-funded programs have in common is an interest in studying free societies with an eye to understanding the mechanisms behind the assumption that economic freedom benefits humanity.[44]


The brothers' ideology is libertarian, more specifically the right-libertarian branch most common found in American-style libertarianism.[9]


David was the Libertarian Party's vice-presidential candidate in 1980,[12] running on a platform of abolishing Social Security, the FBI, the CIA, and public schools.[29][30] (His brother Charles also supported his candidacy.)[16] By being a candidate, Koch took advantage of campaign finance laws exempting him from limits on donations and ultimately "contributed about $2.1 million, more than half the [Libertarian] campaign budget.”[12][10][30] This gave the candidates enough cash to run advertisements and try to get on the ballot in all 50 states.[12] However, he and running mate Ed Clark won only 1.1% of the vote …
 
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