The Idiotic System of Medicine in the USA

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    It's citizens are the United States.

    I guess you didn't get that in the civics class you took in Siberia.
     
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    Let's just call it StumpCare.

    Martin Luther, the great Reformer of the Middle Ages, preached baptism in a washing, regeneration, and new birth.

    Nowadays, none of the doctors at the circumcision ward of the local Catholic hospital even bother washing their hands when delivering a child.
     
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    We may not have the best healthcare system but I am not very impressed with Russias.

    What is the current life expectency?
     
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    5 “Blue Zones” Where the World’s Healthiest People Live

    Oh, but we die so young in America! Look at those Japanese ladies in National Geographic doing their gardening well after 100 years of age!
     
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    That's because of their lifestyle, not the healthcare system.
     
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    Healthcare ought to be all about having a healthy lifestyle: exercise, good diet, staying free of drugs, alcohol, tobacco, sexual promiscuity, and all that.

    But people on the high California lifestyle eat diets loaded with salt, cholesterol, fried eggs and bacon every day for breakfast, and sit on their fat arse all day long, and the doctors prescribe them cholesterol medication rather than diet and exercise. The other camp that exercises at the health clubs has to contend with the same-sex promiscuity in the locker rooms, and all the diseases that go along with that...

    And if they aren't chain-smoking dozens of cigarettes a day, they are sitting in a mold-infested air-conditioned building all day, which destroys their immune system as bad as if they all had AIDS, and then they get Legionnaires disease or asthma or COPD from some bacteria in the water heater or air conditioning system, and their kids are all allergic to peanuts.
     
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    Well,

    That's somewhat Orwellian if you think about it.

    It's like that jerk from New York (congressman) who said he was going to "help us make good choices" by outlawing big gulps.

    It may sound outrageous to say you'd come to blows or shots over big gulps...but it is really about choice.

    People should be free to choose....but they can't choose the consequences of their choices.....

    That is for them.
     
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    I do not advocate "forcing" healthy lifestyles by any means, only that doctors encourage, support, and enable healthy choices and alternatives to unhealthy habits.

    It is not a valid excuse to deny care on the grounds the patient has allegedly made poor life choices, i.e., pulling the teeth of the poor because they will allegedly lose them anyway...
     
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    If health care becomes a government responsibility, force, and controlling citizens' lifestyles, will very much be part of the equation. And it will be the 'stingy conservatives' demanding that it be so. You can hear them now "Why should my tax dollars pay for the health care of lazy fatsos (or druggies, or immigrants, etc... - whoever the right is hating on at the time)?"

    When your health care becomes the legal responsibility of your neighbors, your neighbors are going to have something to say about your unhealthy habits. And they'll use the ballot box to push for policies that clamp down on people doing things that they consider unhealthy. Or just don't like for moral reasons. Or whatever. Anything and everything that can be framed as impacting health care costs will be a target of regulation.

    Banning 'biggie' sodas is just the start. You like adventure sports? Why should "We the People" pay for your dangerous hobbies?

    Again, we're seeing this kind of stuff now, just based on the fact that government subsidizes much of our health care. When they're paying the whole bill, you can bet it will be turned up to eleven, and all your personal health habits will come under scrutiny of the Trumpsters - or whatever band of hooligans is currently squatting in DC.
     

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