The Greatest President in 100 Years

[Dugdale_Jukes]

And I knew you by the smell of fish.

 

[Synthaholic]

Reagan freed the decedents of the people FDR's "Uncle" Joe Stalin enslaved

Frank, what do you mean?

Do you mean Reagan got my kid to pay the interest on his "prosperity"?

Do you mean the U.S.S.R. came apart while Reagan was in office and FDR successfully avoided a war we might not have won in a decade? Yak vs Corsair or T34 vs Sherman anyone?

"....FDR successfully avoided a war...."

...by simply kneeling before Stalin and giving him whatever he wished.
FDR was in the thrall of Joe Stalin.

FDR's polio would have kept him from kneeling before anyone, halfwit.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Interesting how quickly people who never heard a shot fired in anger will shed the blood of their betters. It'd be good to see every individual supporting war required to serve in a combat capacity.

If, for example, remf cowards and infamous chickenhawks Reagan or Junebug had heard the command "fix bayonets" inside a wire there is reasonable probability US history would be significantly different.

Could you be any more pathetic?

 

[Synthaholic]

Interesting how quickly people who never heard a shot fired in anger will shed the blood of their betters. It'd be good to see every individual supporting war required to serve in a combat capacity.

If, for example, remf cowards and infamous chickenhawks Reagan or Junebug had heard the command "fix bayonets" inside a wire there is reasonable probability US history would be significantly different.

Could you be any more pathetic?

Yes - he could have your posting history.

 

[Dugdale_Jukes]

There was a time it might have turned out that my emotional and intellectual limits would be similar to yours, CrusaderFunk. Suicide was in my thoughts then, but all that is many years behind me.

Thanks for asking.

ON EDIT: And thanks for the laugh of the week, S. Suicide would be back in my thoughts if my brain degenerated to the point asset-based economic policy made sense and I was actually admitting that on a public forum.

 

[Toronado3800]

"....FDR successfully avoided a war...."

...by simply kneeling before Stalin and giving him whatever he wished.
FDR was in the thrall of Joe Stalin.

Let me speak plainly, Stalin sucked. Being in a room with the monster and not being able to kill him had to suck.

The cold war was pretty hard fought to. Like you say though, capitalism beats socialism and maybe FDR had that opinion that eventually our economic system would allow us to swallow theirs.

BTW, what did FDR give Stalin that angers folks? Largely the land Russian troops were already on? A couple more costly to maintain than useful "R" class British battleships left over from the last war with Germany?

This was a Russia where bother fathers and their sons had to go die to reclaim their land from Germany. Folks were angry.

The plight of Eastern Europe really SUCKED. I still don't know what we could have done, started the cold war six months sooner?

The outcome of any war with Russia was debatable also. I see us and the Brits being pushed back to Dunkirk before our navy accomplished what, landing in Siberia?

Yet....you're not disagreeing that FDR gave Stalin everything that he wished....at a time when the US was the only nation with nuclear weapons.

Nor....that FDR had a vice president who has been revealed as having worked with the NKVD, and promoted spies in his administration.

Strange how you guys can never read those tea leaves.

History compresses things. Let's count our timeline again oversimplified.

1941 - getting bombed at Pearl Harbor was our accomplishment. FDR was merely trying to get us into the war against the Charles Lindbergh's of the nation.

1942 - Midway, we are ready for WWII this time not trying to refight the Spanish American War, the Japanese aren't invading the West Coast.

November 1942 we land in sorta French held, German owned Morocco.

1943 Feburary Kassarine Pass. Oops, are we ready for the big leagues yet?

September - Yea! We land in Italy! It goes ok, really. Not great, but as well as could be expected and we CAN support an army through the Mediterranean of all places.

1944 June, the middle of the year, Yea! We land in Normandy. Things start slow but we break out.

1945 April FDR dies. Dead.
May - Truman is President - Germany surrenders
July - Trinity test / Potsdam meeting. We have the bomb. Truman is President.
August - Truman flies a pack of 3 B29's fly over Japan, no fighter escort for this was Japan of summer of '45 not Germany of '43, no fighter escort, no fighting off intercepting Japanese Zeros or anything like in the movie Red Tails, 3 lonely B29's fly over and nuke Hiroshima.

Still FDR was DEAD when we got the bomb. Truman is your target here.

So let's back to 43....

We are at Tehran. Roosevelt is alive, you are in control of him. Your power is that little brown 1943 slice of dead Germans and Italians plus whatever you think you can do this next year. What do you demand of Stalin who has just won the largest armored engagement in history.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Reagan freed the decedents of the people FDR's "Uncle" Joe Stalin enslaved

Frank, what do you mean?

Do you mean Reagan got my kid to pay the interest on his "prosperity"?

Do you mean the U.S.S.R. came apart while Reagan was in office and FDR successfully avoided a war we might not have won in a decade? Yak vs Corsair or T34 vs Sherman anyone?

I can't make a lick of sense out of your stupid post

What the fuck are you talking about?

I basically said that FDR helped to enslave Eastern Europe and 2 generation later Reagan freed them.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

There was a time it might have turned out that my emotional and intellectual limits would be similar to yours, CrusaderFunk. Suicide was in my thoughts then, but all that is many years behind me.

Thanks for asking.

ON EDIT: And thanks for the laugh of the week, S. Suicide would be back in my thoughts if my brain degenerated to the point asset-based economic policy made sense and I was actually admitting that on a public forum.

Tell me more about your war stories! I get goosebumps listening to how brave you are!!

 

[Dugdale_Jukes]

Interesting how quickly people who never heard a shot fired in anger will shed the blood of their betters. It'd be good to see every individual supporting war required to serve in a combat capacity.

If, for example, remf cowards and infamous chickenhawks Reagan or Junebug had heard the command "fix bayonets" inside a wire there is reasonable probability US history would be significantly different.

What a tough guy!
I knew you were really macho by the hair transplants you had in the palms of your hands.

There was a time it might have turned out that my emotional and intellectual limits would be similar to yours, CrusaderFunk. Suicide was in my thoughts then, but all that is many years behind me.

Thanks for asking.

ON EDIT: And thanks for the laugh of the week, S. Suicide would be back in my thoughts if my brain degenerated to the point asset-based economic policy made sense and I was actually admitting that on a public forum.

Tell me more about your war stories! I get goosebumps listening to how brave you are!!

No.
You don't.
You know nothing about me.

If your life is typical today your life's entire foundation catalog is based in front-running fantasy and emotion instead of trial and error experience. You are the realization of the dream of the people behind the curtain Reagan stood in front of. You are a proud fool.

Worse, you grew up watching people you admired ridicule what they couldn't understand so all you know in terms of rough and tumble is ridicule. I am laughing out loud here thinking about the angst you must experience in search of just the right nutball gal.

Pathetic.

 

[rightwinger]

Interesting how quickly people who never heard a shot fired in anger will shed the blood of their betters. It'd be good to see every individual supporting war required to serve in a combat capacity.

If, for example, remf cowards and infamous chickenhawks Reagan or Junebug had heard the command "fix bayonets" inside a wire there is reasonable probability US history would be significantly different.

What a tough guy!
I knew you were really macho by the hair transplants you had in the palms of your hands.

There was a time it might have turned out that my emotional and intellectual limits would be similar to yours, CrusaderFunk. Suicide was in my thoughts then, but all that is many years behind me.

Thanks for asking.

ON EDIT: And thanks for the laugh of the week, S. Suicide would be back in my thoughts if my brain degenerated to the point asset-based economic policy made sense and I was actually admitting that on a public forum.

Tell me more about your war stories! I get goosebumps listening to how brave you are!!

No.
You don't.
You know nothing about me.

If your life is typical today your life's entire foundation catalog is based in front-running fantasy and emotion instead of trial and error experience.

Worse, you grew up watching people you admired ridicule what they couldn't understand so all you know in terms of rough and tumble is ridicule. I am laughing out loud here thinking about the angst you must experience in search of just the right nutball gal.

Pathetic.

Leave her alone

She is an Ann Coulter wannabe

She tries to channel her on this board

 

[Toronado3800]

Reagan freed the decedents of the people FDR's "Uncle" Joe Stalin enslaved

Frank, what do you mean?

Do you mean Reagan got my kid to pay the interest on his "prosperity"?

Do you mean the U.S.S.R. came apart while Reagan was in office and FDR successfully avoided a war we might not have won in a decade? Yak vs Corsair or T34 vs Sherman anyone?

I can't make a lick of sense out of your stupid post

What the fuck are you talking about?

I basically said that FDR helped to enslave Eastern Europe and 2 generation later Reagan freed them.

Oh yes. Were you not the one who would have set Patton loose on the Russians in 1945!

Do you think we had a strong enough position in '43 to bluff Stalin?

I wonder how that would have went? As well as Korea? Better, worse? Perhaps by the fall of 45 we could have nuked Berlin to keep them from pushing us into the channel?

We got the cold war. We had a period where 10 of 30 years were spent in one world war or another and a decade in between of the Great Depression.

Wasn't the cold war and some patience our economic system would win out enough?

 

[rightwinger]

Frank, what do you mean?

Do you mean Reagan got my kid to pay the interest on his "prosperity"?

Do you mean the U.S.S.R. came apart while Reagan was in office and FDR successfully avoided a war we might not have won in a decade? Yak vs Corsair or T34 vs Sherman anyone?

I can't make a lick of sense out of your stupid post

What the fuck are you talking about?

I basically said that FDR helped to enslave Eastern Europe and 2 generation later Reagan freed them.

Oh yes. Were you not the one who would have set Patton loose on the Russians in 1945!

Do you think we had a strong enough position in '43 to bluff Stalin?

I wonder how that would have went? As well as Korea? Better, worse? Perhaps by the fall of 45 we could have nuked Berlin to keep them from pushing us into the channel?

We got the cold war. We had a period where 10 of 30 years were spent in one world war or another and a decade in between of the Great Depression.

Wasn't the cold war and some patience our economic system would win out enough?

Frankie is a history revisionist who has wet dreams about attacking the Soviet Union

 

[MikeK]

Ronald Reagan was a Grade-B movie actor whose perfectly mundane and artificially likeable persona transported him to the status of Man From General Electric, then eventually to a starring role as President Of the United States. To believe this posturing, flag-waving boob was anything other than a moderately skilled pretender who performed with deliberate obedience to his scripted purpose as corporatist water-carrier is to demonstrate the kind of simple-minded naivete which gradually has emerged as a malignant and quietly menacing growth on the body of American politics.

Briefly stated, Ronald Reagan was one of the worst things that ever happened to America. Not only because of the economic damage caused by the policies he managed to impose on us but because of the false impression he managed to convey to the receptive minds and imaginations of a veritable cult of jingoistic disciples who continue to regard him as a good President and a good American. What Ronald Reagan really was is a second-rate Hollywood character who happened to be exactly what the faltering corporatocracy was looking for to replace the weakened and vulnerable Carter presidency and to hoodwink a population already partially brainwashed by the input of electronically induced fantasy.

The Ronald Reagan story is a factual demonstration of the hypnotic effect the movies and television can have on a national population. And those who would like to better understand how the phenomenon works need only read Marshal MacLuhan's classic work, The Medium Is The Message.

 

[Synthaholic]

Interesting how quickly people who never heard a shot fired in anger will shed the blood of their betters. It'd be good to see every individual supporting war required to serve in a combat capacity.

If, for example, remf cowards and infamous chickenhawks Reagan or Junebug had heard the command "fix bayonets" inside a wire there is reasonable probability US history would be significantly different.

What a tough guy!
I knew you were really macho by the hair transplants you had in the palms of your hands.

There was a time it might have turned out that my emotional and intellectual limits would be similar to yours, CrusaderFunk. Suicide was in my thoughts then, but all that is many years behind me.

Thanks for asking.

ON EDIT: And thanks for the laugh of the week, S. Suicide would be back in my thoughts if my brain degenerated to the point asset-based economic policy made sense and I was actually admitting that on a public forum.

Tell me more about your war stories! I get goosebumps listening to how brave you are!!

No.
You don't.
You know nothing about me.

If your life is typical today your life's entire foundation catalog is based in front-running fantasy and emotion instead of trial and error experience. You are the realization of the dream of the people behind the curtain Reagan stood in front of. You are a proud fool.

Worse, you grew up watching people you admired ridicule what they couldn't understand so all you know in terms of rough and tumble is ridicule. I am laughing out loud here thinking about the angst you must experience in search of just the right nutball gal.

Pathetic.

Wow, it's like you've known CrusaderFrank for years!

 

[Dugdale_Jukes]

For those who want facts about the meltdown, Inside Job is thoroughly sourced journalism. Every event is thoroughly referenced and can easily be verified.

For nutballs with sufficient integrity to want to know the facts about the Icon, Reagan, conservative writers Donald Barlett & James Steele's "America" trilogy can't be beat. Written between 1990 and 1996 "What went wrong", "Who really pays the taxes", and "Who stole the Dream" are the finest books ever written about the Reagan/Clinton axis of corporate shills posing as Republicans and Democrats while actively working to destroy America's middle class at least, and perhaps more in their efforts to promote global corporate hegemony. No fans of big government, Barlett and Steele do support equal access to the law; each book is thoroughly footnoted and every claim is verifiable.

In the same time frame- perhaps a year or so later, if memory serves me well, Frank Partnoy wrote "F.I.A.S.C.O.", to this day the best general reference on how low margin/no margin derivatives became defined as respectable, written by a man who was there.

Those with enough going on to understand and accept Reagan's guilt and Clinton's guilt in creating an asset-based credit-fueled fake economy might want to read "The Great American Stickup" by Robert Scheer. Sheer is admittedly a liberal, but he doesn't do Democrats any favors describing their guilt in the runup to 2008. Even a dyslexic like me can read this book in a couple of hours.

My favorite read on the period leading up to Junebug's no-doubt-about-it exposure as an incompetent political hack and heir to the nutty policies of Reagan and Clinton is Tiabbi's "Griftopia". Written from an entirely liberal point of view and taking harsh positions on nutballism, Tiabbi trashes Democrat scum with special vigor because Tiabbi feels betrayed by his own team. Bawny Fwank and similarly clueless meritocrats that followed Clinton's corporatist instincts down the drain get special trashing. Tiabbi is coarse and vulgar and so pretty much everything one wants in a writer trashing people one despises with special vigor.

 

[Synthaholic]

I can't make a lick of sense out of your stupid post

What the fuck are you talking about?

I basically said that FDR helped to enslave Eastern Europe and 2 generation later Reagan freed them.

Oh yes. Were you not the one who would have set Patton loose on the Russians in 1945!

Do you think we had a strong enough position in '43 to bluff Stalin?

I wonder how that would have went? As well as Korea? Better, worse? Perhaps by the fall of 45 we could have nuked Berlin to keep them from pushing us into the channel?

We got the cold war. We had a period where 10 of 30 years were spent in one world war or another and a decade in between of the Great Depression.

Wasn't the cold war and some patience our economic system would win out enough?

Frankie is a history revisionist who has wet dreams about attacking the Soviet Union

Correct. He wants us all to believe Joe McCarthy was a hero.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

"Washington couldn't tell a lie, Nixon couldn't tell the truth, and Reagan couldn't tell the difference."
Mort Sahl

Trolls like rightwinger and the others that defend the lies of reagan to no end get their ass handed to them on a platter here that reagan at that time was the most corrupt president ever and could not carry JFK's jockstrap as the greatest president of that century.JFK was our last REAL president not a puppet for the establishment,there to serve the people and honor the constitution instead of serving wall street and the zionist jews like every president since him and thats why they CIA killed him.

not surprising, the reagan apologists are too arrogant to acknowledge these facts and admit they have been duped by the corporate controlled media and their propaganda they have spread over the years.