The Government Can Use GPS to Track Your Moves

[daveman]

The Government Can Use GPS to Track Your Moves

Read more: The Government's New Right to Track Your Every Move With GPS - TIME

ernment agents can sneak onto your property in the middle of the night, put a GPS device on the bottom of your car and keep track of everywhere you go. This doesn't violate your Fourth Amendment rights, because you do not have any reasonable expectation of privacy in your own driveway — and no reasonable expectation that the government isn't tracking your movements.

That is the bizarre — and scary — rule that now applies in California and eight other Western states. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit, which covers this vast jurisdiction, recently decided the government can monitor you in this way virtually anytime it wants — with no need for a search warrant.

It is a dangerous decision — one that, as the dissenting judges warned, could turn America into the sort of totalitarian state imagined by George Orwell. It is particularly offensive because the judges added insult to injury with some shocking class bias: the little personal privacy that still exists, the court suggested, should belong mainly to the rich.

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The judges veered into offensiveness when they explained why Pineda-Moreno's driveway was not private. It was open to strangers, they said, such as delivery people and neighborhood children, who could wander across it uninvited.

Chief Judge Alex Kozinski, who dissented from this month's decision refusing to reconsider the case, pointed out whose homes are not open to strangers: rich people's. The court's ruling, he said, means that people who protect their homes with electric gates, fences and security booths have a large protected zone of privacy around their homes. People who cannot afford such barriers have to put up with the government sneaking around at night.

 

[daveman]

Tremendously bad decision.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

Yea we really are rapidly heading towards Orwell's 1984. It's too bad that there are so many Goose Steppers in this country who support this kind of Government abuse. This stuff kind of helps you understand how some in Germany must have felt while watching the Nazis taking over. Not all people in Germany supported the Nazis. So many in this country just stay silent when the Government over-reaches this way. That's the biggest tragedy in this.

 

[daveman]

Yea we really are rapidly heading towards Orwell's 1984. It's too bad that there are so many Goose Steppers in this country who support this kind of Government abuse. This stuff kind of helps you understand how some in Germany must have felt while watching the Nazis taking over. Not all people in Germany supported the Nazis. So many in this country just stay silent when the Government over-reaches this way. That's the biggest tragedy in this.

Boiled frog.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

Yea we really are rapidly heading towards Orwell's 1984. It's too bad that there are so many Goose Steppers in this country who support this kind of Government abuse. This stuff kind of helps you understand how some in Germany must have felt while watching the Nazis taking over. Not all people in Germany supported the Nazis. So many in this country just stay silent when the Government over-reaches this way. That's the biggest tragedy in this.

Boiled frog.

You watch,it wont take long before you see some ignorant Goose Steppers coming on here defending the Government on this. Others will just stay silent. They're even worse in my opinion. It really is sad.

 

[Reasoning]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNU0WqgrfeE]YouTube - How Feds Can Secretly Track You[/ame]

 

[xotoxi]

The Government can only track your car's moves.

Screw the Government by walking or riding your bike.

 

[zzzz]

They've been able to track your personal movements by your cellphone for years. If you knew what the NSA and its black departments could really do you wouldn't be able to sleep at night.


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkf95onRgcc]YouTube - Mysto & Pizzi - Somebody's Watching Me (GEICO)[/ame]

 

[rdean]

The Government Can Use GPS to Track Your Moves

Read more: The Government's New Right to Track Your Every Move With GPS - TIME

ernment agents can sneak onto your property in the middle of the night, put a GPS device on the bottom of your car and keep track of everywhere you go. This doesn't violate your Fourth Amendment rights, because you do not have any reasonable expectation of privacy in your own driveway — and no reasonable expectation that the government isn't tracking your movements.

That is the bizarre — and scary — rule that now applies in California and eight other Western states. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit, which covers this vast jurisdiction, recently decided the government can monitor you in this way virtually anytime it wants — with no need for a search warrant.

It is a dangerous decision — one that, as the dissenting judges warned, could turn America into the sort of totalitarian state imagined by George Orwell. It is particularly offensive because the judges added insult to injury with some shocking class bias: the little personal privacy that still exists, the court suggested, should belong mainly to the rich.

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The judges veered into offensiveness when they explained why Pineda-Moreno's driveway was not private. It was open to strangers, they said, such as delivery people and neighborhood children, who could wander across it uninvited.

Chief Judge Alex Kozinski, who dissented from this month's decision refusing to reconsider the case, pointed out whose homes are not open to strangers: rich people's. The court's ruling, he said, means that people who protect their homes with electric gates, fences and security booths have a large protected zone of privacy around their homes. People who cannot afford such barriers have to put up with the government sneaking around at night.

Only the most narcissistic of the right wing nut jobs thinks anyone cares who they are, where they go or what they talk about. The only thing worthwhile when listening to fools is the "entertainment" value and even Paris Hilton has become "boring". Then we realize, she was always boring.

 

[loosecannon]

This really isn't so terribly new.

The Government has been secretly tracking your every movement via your cell phone for a decade. And what do you think OnStar does?

The internet is a giant trap, invented by the military and then given away free to private industry. It allows the government more and more access to ridiculous volumes of personal information, the more you use it, the more they know.

So it is in the governments interest that everybody on earth with a brain capable of doing so use mobile e-devises as their exclusive media for transactions, communications and information resources.

It is exactly like the television that watches you that George Orwell featured in 1984.

And when the law forbids it, they do it anyway and change the law later granting retro immunity.

I get a kick out of the US reaction to China's censorship of Google. As if google was benign.

Google is a data mining industry as capable of collecting data on it's users as it is capable of providing data for them. And it does it in .23 seconds/query.

And Google DOES data mine it's own users. It even has plans to automatically profile it's users and deliver customized services to them. It warns the centers for disease control about diseases before any public official realizes an outbreak has occurred. Automatically!

Google collects more data on the public than it provides for the public.

WHY DO YOU THINK IT IS FREE?

They know more about you than you know about you, and you know nothing about them.

Like 1984.

 

[Flopper]

Just like on TV--- Well, if they want to know where I buy my groceries, then so be it, but I can see your point.

 

[Political Junky]

Cons defended BushCo's right to listen to their phone calls.

 

[elvis]

Cons defended BushCo's right to listen to their phone calls.

no, we didn't, you stupid fuck.

 

[uscitizen]

The Government Can Use GPS to Track Your Moves

Read more: The Government's New Right to Track Your Every Move With GPS - TIME

ernment agents can sneak onto your property in the middle of the night, put a GPS device on the bottom of your car and keep track of everywhere you go. This doesn't violate your Fourth Amendment rights, because you do not have any reasonable expectation of privacy in your own driveway — and no reasonable expectation that the government isn't tracking your movements.

That is the bizarre — and scary — rule that now applies in California and eight other Western states. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit, which covers this vast jurisdiction, recently decided the government can monitor you in this way virtually anytime it wants — with no need for a search warrant.

It is a dangerous decision — one that, as the dissenting judges warned, could turn America into the sort of totalitarian state imagined by George Orwell. It is particularly offensive because the judges added insult to injury with some shocking class bias: the little personal privacy that still exists, the court suggested, should belong mainly to the rich.

--

The judges veered into offensiveness when they explained why Pineda-Moreno's driveway was not private. It was open to strangers, they said, such as delivery people and neighborhood children, who could wander across it uninvited.

Chief Judge Alex Kozinski, who dissented from this month's decision refusing to reconsider the case, pointed out whose homes are not open to strangers: rich people's. The court's ruling, he said, means that people who protect their homes with electric gates, fences and security booths have a large protected zone of privacy around their homes. People who cannot afford such barriers have to put up with the government sneaking around at night.

Umm they can do it with your cell phone too
No sneaking required.

 

[xotoxi]

Google collects more data on the public than it provides for the public.

WHY DO YOU THINK IT IS FREE?

They know more about you than you know about you, and you know nothing about them.

Big whoop!

Why would I care if the government knows that I find demotivational posters funny?

 

[uscitizen]

Cons defended BushCo's right to listen to their phone calls.

no, we didn't, you stupid fuck.

Perhaps you did not but many did. and the 2 major telcos that illegally provided info to the Bush Admin got immunity put into a bill somewhere.

 

[Missourian]

I pity the poor fella tasked to analyze my GPS data...he's sure to die of boredom.

 

[elvis]

Cons defended BushCo's right to listen to their phone calls.

no, we didn't, you stupid fuck.

Perhaps you did not but many did. and the 2 major telcos that illegally provided info to the Bush Admin got immunity put into a bill somewhere.

yes, many did. PJ just enjoys blanket statements, as she is a partisan hack.

 

[asterism]

Tremendously bad decision.

I can't agree. There is no expectation of privacy as it pertains to the location of your phone, your car, nor where you use your federally regulated bank account. There actually never has been. This is not a situation where due process was not followed, so I really don't see the issue (as it pertains to law and Constitutionality).

This is just a more efficient way of manually tailing a criminal suspect during a stakeout of his known residence.

 

[asterism]

The Government Can Use GPS to Track Your Moves

Read more: The Government's New Right to Track Your Every Move With GPS - TIME

ernment agents can sneak onto your property in the middle of the night, put a GPS device on the bottom of your car and keep track of everywhere you go. This doesn't violate your Fourth Amendment rights, because you do not have any reasonable expectation of privacy in your own driveway — and no reasonable expectation that the government isn't tracking your movements.

That is the bizarre — and scary — rule that now applies in California and eight other Western states. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit, which covers this vast jurisdiction, recently decided the government can monitor you in this way virtually anytime it wants — with no need for a search warrant.

It is a dangerous decision — one that, as the dissenting judges warned, could turn America into the sort of totalitarian state imagined by George Orwell. It is particularly offensive because the judges added insult to injury with some shocking class bias: the little personal privacy that still exists, the court suggested, should belong mainly to the rich.

--

The judges veered into offensiveness when they explained why Pineda-Moreno's driveway was not private. It was open to strangers, they said, such as delivery people and neighborhood children, who could wander across it uninvited.

Chief Judge Alex Kozinski, who dissented from this month's decision refusing to reconsider the case, pointed out whose homes are not open to strangers: rich people's. The court's ruling, he said, means that people who protect their homes with electric gates, fences and security booths have a large protected zone of privacy around their homes. People who cannot afford such barriers have to put up with the government sneaking around at night.

Only the most narcissistic of the right wing nut jobs thinks anyone cares who they are, where they go or what they talk about. The only thing worthwhile when listening to fools is the "entertainment" value and even Paris Hilton has become "boring". Then we realize, she was always boring.

What's your opinion on warrantless wiretaps?