The GOP’s Latest Smoke And Mirrors Health Plan

[Doc1]

You have no idea as to what you are talking about

 

[easyt65]

The ACA is having an anticipated shakedown. It is far from collapsing, and won't if Trump leave it alone. If it does collapse, you will be in far worse shape than you were before it was passed.

'shakedown'?

It will not cost a dime' - LIE
It will pay for itself - LIE

* Democrats are begging for money and threatening to shut down the govt to save it's POS.

You can keep your plan / doctor.... - what you call a 'shakedown' is what every other American calls 'LIES'

There are parts of the country that no longer has insurance because companies have left the market.



Face it, the ACA was a POS based on LIES from the very start and is collapsing just as everyone with a brain knew it eventually would.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

The ACA is having an anticipated shakedown. It is far from collapsing, and won't if Trump leave it alone. If it does collapse, you will be in far worse shape than you were before it was passed.

'shakedown'?

It will not cost a dime' - LIE
It will pay for itself - LIE

* Democrats are begging for money and threatening to shut down the govt to save it's POS.

You can keep your plan / doctor.... - what you call a 'shakedown' is what every other American calls 'LIES'

There are parts of the country that no longer has insurance because companies have left the market.



Face it, the ACA was a POS based on LIES from the very start and is collapsing just as everyone with a brain knew it eventually would.

yes, ACA was really a way to put 15 million more Medicaid, to get the middle class to subsidize the poor not on Medicaid, to get the young to subsidize the old, and for communist management of doctors and hospitals.
Simply switching to capitalism would have cut prices by 80% and increased our life spans by 10-20 years.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

The Pub plans are nothing but show. .

the pub plan is capitalism. If you object say exactly why or admit you know nothing!!

 

[Doc1]

The Pub plans are nothing but show. .

the pub plan is capitalism. If you object say exactly why or admit you know nothing!!

Whatever you say Poindexter.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

The Pub plans are nothing but show. .

the pub plan is capitalism. If you object say exactly why or admit you know nothing!!

Whatever you say Poindexter.

translation: I admit I know nothing and so prefer to stay within the tiny confines of what I do know about. I like a man who knows his liberal limitations!!

 

[Doc1]

The Pub plans are nothing but show. .

the pub plan is capitalism. If you object say exactly why or admit you know nothing!!

Whatever you say Poindexter.

translation: I admit I know nothing and so prefer to stay within the tiny confines of what I do know about. I like a man who knows his liberal limitations!!

Sure thing kid, except that I've written several million dollars in HC Premium and you've written nothing. Other than that sure.

 

[Old Rocks]

Shitforhair will do what he planned on doing .. nothing .. then blame it on the dems.

Perhaps. I actually think Repubs will part of the play, it will more credence to it.

it will all fall into place once enough Americans realize that free market health care will lower prices 80% and add 10--20 years to our life expectancies

Lordy, lordy. Remember, we had that, and the prices just kept going up, while Canada, France, Japan, Germany, and many other nations exceeded us in average lifespan, and have far better records on infant mortality.

 

[Old Rocks]

Simple fact:

ANY mandatory "national" health care plan will, over a few years, result in at least one of the following:

1. Rationing*.

2. Care deteriorating to the point where those with the resources will get their health care in another country.


* Rationing, at the most benign, will establish quotas for each type of "corrective" surgery. The next step, no treatment after some age barrier will be adjusted annually according to available funds. In MOST countries, care first for paying supporters of the dominant political party with the unaffiliated or of opposing party left only the crumbs.

What a fucked up liar you are. France, Japan, Germany, and many other nations have far better records on health care than does the US.

 

[Old Rocks]

The ACA is having an anticipated shakedown. It is far from collapsing, and won't if Trump leave it alone. If it does collapse, you will be in far worse shape than you were before it was passed.

'shakedown'?

It will not cost a dime' - LIE
It will pay for itself - LIE

* Democrats are begging for money and threatening to shut down the govt to save it's POS.

You can keep your plan / doctor.... - what you call a 'shakedown' is what every other American calls 'LIES'

There are parts of the country that no longer has insurance because companies have left the market.



Face it, the ACA was a POS based on LIES from the very start and is collapsing just as everyone with a brain knew it eventually would.

Well now, then it is time for the public option.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

The Pub plans are nothing but show. .

the pub plan is capitalism. If you object say exactly why or admit you know nothing!!

Whatever you say Poindexter.

translation: I admit I know nothing and so prefer to stay within the tiny confines of what I do know about. I like a man who knows his liberal limitations!!

Sure thing kid, except that I've written several million dollars in HC Premium and you've written nothing. Other than that sure.

so then you do support Republican capitalist health care, but just can't explain why or why not? Why not ask questions like a lawyer punching holes in defendants sorry?? It should be easy with your vast experience??

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Well now, then it is time for the public option.

absolutely, and for more important things too like food clothing and shelter!!
We cant trust the private sector to provide those things!

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Simple fact:

ANY mandatory "national" health care plan will, over a few years, result in at least one of the following:

1. Rationing*.

2. Care deteriorating to the point where those with the resources will get their health care in another country.


* Rationing, at the most benign, will establish quotas for each type of "corrective" surgery. The next step, no treatment after some age barrier will be adjusted annually according to available funds. In MOST countries, care first for paying supporters of the dominant political party with the unaffiliated or of opposing party left only the crumbs.

What a fucked up liar you are. France, Japan, Germany, and many other nations have far better records on health care than does the US.

they have much lower prices but their records are much worse given that we invent health care and the world uses it.

 

[whitehall]

Talk about smoke and mirrors, when the democrat party passed Obamacare by using intimidation and bribes to encourage holdouts, the then House Speaker was asked about the bill. She replied "you will find out what's in it after it is passed". In other words the democrat party didn't even read the thing before they were threatened or intimidated or bribed into voting for it.

 

[Lakhota]

Since Obamacare is the law of the land - let's make it better by fixing the glitches.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Since Obamacare is the law of the land - let's make it better by fixing the glitches.

you don't fix libsocialism, you throw it out and replace with freedom and capitalism to drive down costs 80% and add 10-20 years to our life expectancies . Do you understand???

 

[Doc1]

The Pub plans are nothing but show. .

the pub plan is capitalism. If you object say exactly why or admit you know nothing!!

Whatever you say Poindexter.

translation: I admit I know nothing and so prefer to stay within the tiny confines of what I do know about. I like a man who knows his liberal limitations!!

Sure thing kid, except that I've written several million dollars in HC Premium and you've written nothing. Other than that sure.

so then you do support Republican capitalist health care, but just can't explain why or why not? Why not ask questions like a lawyer punching holes in defendants sorry?? It should be easy with your vast experience??

Man you are bad at this. You don't like what you read so you try and put words in other people's mouth. Now there's a "winning" formula. Not. I stated in several places that their plan is shit (that should be plain enough for you).

 

[Doc1]

Since Obamacare is the law of the land - let's make it better by fixing the glitches.

The two biggest "glitches" are cost and cost.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

the pub plan is capitalism. If you object say exactly why or admit you know nothing!!

Whatever you say Poindexter.

translation: I admit I know nothing and so prefer to stay within the tiny confines of what I do know about. I like a man who knows his liberal limitations!!

Sure thing kid, except that I've written several million dollars in HC Premium and you've written nothing. Other than that sure.

so then you do support Republican capitalist health care, but just can't explain why or why not? Why not ask questions like a lawyer punching holes in defendants sorry?? It should be easy with your vast experience??

Man you are bad at this. You don't like what you read so you try and put words in other people's mouth. Now there's a "winning" formula. Not. I stated in several places that their plan is shit (that should be plain enough for you).

if you oppose capitalist health care why not learn to say why????? A feeling is not good enough. Do you understand??

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Since Obamacare is the law of the land - let's make it better by fixing the glitches.

The two biggest "glitches" are cost and cost.

and obviously the way to get cost down 80% is with competition