The GOP Candidates on Health Care

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    Last week Kaiser Health News launched a feature consolidating some of the health care positions of the leading presidential candidates: "GOP Presidential Hopefuls: Where They Stand On Health Care." They're sorted by issue--apparently with more to be added in the future--and right now those issues are Medicare & Aging, Marketplace, Health Reform Philosophy, and Medicaid.

    Handy resource.

    On a related note, the NYT had an article yesterday examining the records of Romney, Perry, and Huntsman on health care, mostly on coverage.

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    Huntsman:
    Perry:
     
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    Many economist say the US must reign in the skyrocketing cost of health care, if the costs aren't reigned in, health care costs could wreck the US economy.
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    Health insurance premiums have skyrocketed, making it ever-tougher for workers and employers to afford them. From 1999 through 2008, annual health insurance premiums jumped 119 percent, according to Kaiser data.
    During that span, worker earnings rose only 34 percent and overall inflation was just 29 percent. So worker income has barely kept pace with inflation, more of the paycheck is going to health costs, and there's less left over for things like vacations, dining out or home improvements -- especially for low-wage workers and retirees. That represents a huge drag on the economic growth, considering that consumer spending powers about 70 percent of the economy.
    Read more: How health care affects the economy
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    How much does the cost of health care effect businesses? It business biggest cost accounting for 43% of all expenditures.
    http://aspe.hhs.gov/health/costgrowth/
    Yet politicians in Washington give real health care reform just lip service and claim the the free market it will take care of the costs. Well, it's a fact that the free market has actually let the health care industry go unchecked and it is killing our consumer driven economy and it's effecting the way businesses operate and where they operate. Why would a business want to expend in the US when the US has by far the most expensive health care costs by far?
     
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    It's not the cost of health care that's the problem. It's the amount of money insurance companies skim off their policies. How many CEO's make $100,000,000.00 by making nothing? Just acting as a "middle man"?
     
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    I'm surprised that there is such little interest in what many economist deem as a serious threat to our economy.
    But then I'm not surprised about it that much. The health care industry has controlled the message for well over a decade, this has basically controlled the thought process of the public, to the point of being dumbed down.
     
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    Which still figures intot he cost of health care in Ameica. We pay the most for care, the most for prescription drugs and the for insurance.
     
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    Bush and the Republicans made it impossible for HMOs or cities to buy drugs in bulk. I work with a guy from India who sends off for drugs for his father. The drugs are made here. Sold here the pills cost over $20 a pill. In India, the SAME PILLS cost $20 for a months supply.

    The same drugs, the same company making them.

    This was only one of the mini scandals caused by Bush and the Republicans. By stopping "bulk" purchases, these companies can rake in the cash. Thanks to Republican policies.
     
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    And Wall Street has complete control of the health care industry.

    For anyone who wants the inside knowledge of this:

    Profits before Patients - Wendell Potter

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    Following a 20-year career as a corporate public relations executive, Wendell left his position as head of communications for CIGNA, one of the nation’s largest health insurers, to help socially responsible organizations — including those advocating for meaningful health care reform — achieve their goals.

    In widely covered testimony before the Senate Commerce, Science and Technology Committee in June of 2009, Wendell disclosed how insurance companies, as part of their efforts to boost profits, have engaged in practices that have resulted in millions of Americans being forced into the ranks of the uninsured. Wendell also described how the insurance industry has developed and implemented strategic communications plans, based on deceptive public relations, advertising and lobbying efforts, to defeat reform initiatives.

    Since then Wendell has testified before two House committees, briefed several members of Congress and their staffs, appeared with members of Congress at several press conferences, spoken at more than 100 public forums, and has been the subject of numerous articles in the U.S. and foreign media.

    At CIGNA, Wendell served in a variety of positions over 15 years, most recently as head of corporate communications and chief corporate spokesperson. Prior to joining CIGNA, Wendell headed communications at Humana Inc., another large for-profit health insurer. Before that he was director of public relations and advertising for the Baptist Health System of East Tennessee and a partner in an Atlanta public relations firm. He also serves as a consumer liaison representative for the National Association of Insurance Commissioners.

    Wendell Potter's News Articles


    “As one former insurance executive testified before Congress, insurance companies are not only encouraged to find reasons to drop the seriously ill; they are rewarded for it. All of this is in service of meeting what this former executive called, ‘Wall Street’s relentless profit expectations.’” — President Barack Obama, Remarks to Joint Session of Congress, September 9, 2009
     
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    Thought the GOP healthcare plan was to pray you dont get sick?
     

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