The Global Warmers Have Lost the War

[Zander]

Sorry Warmists, you were wrong. Please stop being hysterical ninnies......

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It’s always nice to see a leftist outfit finally fess up to a lost cause. The global warming crowd has clearly lost, and this Mother Jones article makes this clear.

The governments of the world have not implemented the Kyoto treaty of 1992 or its 1997 update. The whole thing lapsed on December 31, 2012. It’s over. Kaput. Think of it as Al Gore’s presidential campaign. Clinton never submitted it to the Senate. Neither did Obama. It was allowed to die of old age.

In the latest article, we see that the far, far radicals of the global warming agenda had a metric of failure. If carbon dioxide reached a level of 350 parts per million, the end of the world would be in sight.

It is now at 400.

This 350 metric has been promoted for years by James Hansen. One of his acolytes is “deep ecologist” Bill McKibben, who has been sounding the alarm on the supposed ecological crisis ever since the 1980’s. He wrote a book on ecology in 1989: The End of Nature. (Note: nature is still here.)

All is lost! The end is near!”

When all is lost, the sensible response is to eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow we die. Anyway, maybe by 2076. After McKibben has gone to his deep ecological reward.

We are beyond the point of no return. Right? I mean, if the metric had any validity in the first place, only one conclusion is sensible: “Head for the hills! It’s cooler there.”

So, will these people just go away now? Will they at least shut up? Not a chance. McKibben has created a cottage industry. He has a website: 350.org. The site does not tell us what 350 stands for: “All is lost! The end is near!”

The global warming movement has had no measurable political results, and also no measurable impact on temperature.


Yes, it’s true that global warming ended 18 years ago. But global warming activists do not take credit for this. In fact, they do their best to explain it away. That is because national governments have done nothing to stop CO2 emissions, yet global warming ended. No one needed the Kyoto Protocols or its 1997 update to stop global warming.
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Game over.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Not really,

Solar is number one in new energy installed for the last few months
Wind is doing good
Coal isn't installing

The energy revolution is won

 

[Mr. H.]

Tell that to Obama and his runaway EPA. They aren't stopping for anything. Not until we've put tens of millions out of work and jacked everyone's utility rates by 60%.

 

[Zander]

Not really,

Solar is number one in new energy installed for the last few months
Wind is doing good
Coal isn't installing

The energy revolution is won

I've always supported wind, solar. hydroelectric, geothermal, etc...but that has nothing to do with AGW theory.

Co2 is now at 400 PPM and we've had no warming in 18 years. The theory is a bust...........no amount of spin can change that.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Tell that to Obama and his runaway EPA. They aren't stopping for anything. Not until we've put tens of millions out of work and jacked everyone's utility rates by 60%.

Do you have any factful data to support your 60%??? And solar, wind and natural gas as put more people to work then out.

 

[Mr. H.]

Tell that to Obama and his runaway EPA. They aren't stopping for anything. Not until we've put tens of millions out of work and jacked everyone's utility rates by 60%.

Do you have any factful data to support your 60%??? And solar, wind and natural gas as put more people to work then out.

Did I give you permission to question me?

 

[mamooth]

"Losing" would be resorting to delusional nonsense like "no warming for 18 years". Losing would be having every bit of the data saying your fringe kook political cult is just nuts. Yep, the deniers.

Winners don't have to lie, fake data, and babble conspiracy theories about the VastGlobalSocialistConspiracy. Deniers do have to do those things.

Zander, why did you think you could try to pass off a cult kook lie like that and not get mocked for it? If your goal was to demonstrate your conspiracy cult has no regard for truth, you've succeeded.

 

[Mr. H.]

"Losing" would be resorting to delusional nonsense like "no warming for 18 years". Losing would be having every bit of the data saying your fringe kook political cult is just nuts. Yep, the deniers.

Winners don't have to lie, fake data, and babble conspiracy theories about the VastGlobalSocialistConspiracy. Deniers do have to do those things.

Zander, why did you think you could try to pass off a cult kook lie like that and not get mocked for it? If your goal was to demonstrate your conspiracy cult has no regard for truth, you've succeeded.

So, you are for subjugating the Middle Class by denying them jobs and hiking their utilities by 60%.

Got it.

 

[S.J.]

Some people I talk to on a regular basis still accept global warming. They mention it as though it was reality. Whenever the weather is bad, it's because of "climate change" or "global warming". If it's cold, it's "climate change". If it's hot, it's "global warming". Stupid sheep, they don't recognize that they're being played for fools. Liberals are such idiots.

 

[ScienceRocks]

"Losing" would be resorting to delusional nonsense like "no warming for 18 years". Losing would be having every bit of the data saying your fringe kook political cult is just nuts. Yep, the deniers.

Winners don't have to lie, fake data, and babble conspiracy theories about the VastGlobalSocialistConspiracy. Deniers do have to do those things.

Zander, why did you think you could try to pass off a cult kook lie like that and not get mocked for it? If your goal was to demonstrate your conspiracy cult has no regard for truth, you've succeeded.

So, you are for subjugating the Middle Class by denying them jobs and hiking their utilities by 60%.

Got it.

The rich offshoring millions of jobs have already done that!

 

[Billy_Bob]

And then they were facts... verifiable facts and real science that could be replicated.. but not on the alarmist side.. fantasy models ripe with fail...

In the climate debate hear both sides Watts Up With That

 

[Mr. H.]

There was a time when weather was just... weather.

Then Al Gore invented the Internet. And Global Warming.

And he saw that it was good - and profitable.

The masses bowed at his feet. For they too saw that it was good.

Bullshit 9:13

 

[Mr. H.]

From the Book of Bullshit...

"Yea, I sayeth unto thee... should weather turn, fold out your pockets to the doomsayers for they knoweth what you don'teth.
Just because they sayeth".

Bullshit 10:12.

 

[mamooth]

So, you are for subjugating the Middle Class by denying them jobs and hiking their utilities by 60%.

Got it.

You've been saying that for years.

And yet electric rates haven't gone up at all.

Your chicken little act keeps looking more ridiculous. Are you going to give it up, or do you plan to just keep on screaming about how the sky is falling, no matter how many people point and laugh?

I will say one thing. Your consistent failure on every topic is impressive. You deniers are somewhat useful in the way you're always wrong. If you predict something, it's highly likely the exact opposite will come to pass.

 

[Mr. H.]

[o, you are for subjugating the Middle Class by denying them jobs and hiking their utilities by 60%.

Got it.

You've been saying that for years.

And yet electric rates haven't gone up at all.

Your chicken little act keeps looking more ridiculous. Are you going to give it up, or do you plan to just keep on screaming about how the sky is falling, no matter how many people point and laugh?

I will say one thing. Your consistent failure on every topic is impressive. You deniers are somewhat useful in the way you're always wrong. If you predict something, it's highly likely the exact opposite will come to pass.

Look forward, you backward-looking Liberal piece of shit.

 

[mamooth]

Okay, I'm sorry I made Mr. H cry. I should be more sensitive to the feelings of the losers.

 

[Kosh]

Okay, I'm sorry I made Mr. H cry. I should be more sensitive to the feelings of the losers.

Proof how desperate the AGW cult (aka the real science deniers) have become..

 

[cnm]

Deny this.

Data.GISS GISS Surface Temperature Analysis Analysis Graphs and Plots

 

[Old Rocks]

Why the Death of Coal in America Is Saving You Money - DailyFinance

What is surprising is that the rate at which electricity prices have increased has actually slowed at the same time as coal plants are being shut down. Between 2001 and 2008, when coal usage was still growing, the price of electricity increased 4.2 percent a year in the U.S. In the six years since, electricity prices have increased just 1.2 percent a year.

Source: U.S. Energy Information Administration
That's partly due to the falling cost of natural gas and partly because wind and solar energy are now lower-cost than coal or natural gas. Investment bank Lazard issues ban annual report called Lazard's Levelized Cost of Energy Analysis that analyzes the cost to build new power plants, and coal at 6.6-15.1 cents per kWh is now more expensive than wind at 1.4-6.7 cents per kWh and even utility solar at 5.6-8.6 cents per kWh.

Coal is dead as a generation source. The plants will be shut down as soon as they need major maintenance. And then we taxpayers will be hit with the costs of cleaning up more superfund sites that the present energy corperations should never have let happen.

 

[Old Rocks]

Don't know what war you are refering to, Zander, but the fact of global warming is going to be apparent to all this year. Only a Krakatoa scale volcanic eruption will prevent that. In 1998, we had a super El Nino. And had a very hot year. In 2005, we had a moderate El Nino, another very hot year. In 2010, another moderate El Nino, another very hot year. 2014, an ENSO neutral year, and we matched 1998, 2005, and 2010. Now we are on track to exceed all of these years, with a strong to very strong El Nino. Note the spacing. Seven years from 1998 to 2005. Five years from 2005 to 2010. Four years from 2010 to 2014. And now, one record year on the heels of another record year.

You state no warming for 18 years,

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/17/s...test-year-on-record-surpassing-2010.html?_r=0

1880 1900 1920 1940 1960 1980 2000 2014

1998 to present looks like one hell of an increase in temperature