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As a crude indicator, one can use the difference in health care’s share of GDP between the United States and similar countries to gauge the magnitude of inefficiency.
Looking at the average for Canada, Germany, Japan, Sweden, Britain, and France, it appears that the amount of resources devoted to health care in the United States that may be due to inefficiency is roughly 5 percent of GDP (15.3 percent in the United States in 2006, versus 9.6 percent, the average for the six comparison countries, all of which have better health outcomes).
28 Put another way, judging from the spending and outcomes in other countries, efficiency improvements in the U.S. health care system potentially could free up resources equal to 5 percent of U.S. GDP. This is, however, only a rough measure. It may well be that because of other differences between the various countries the true level is smaller. But, this estimate is a useful guidepost.29
Further evidence that the high level of spending in the United States reflects inefficiency
Bullshit.I'd move tomorrow, but the dollar depreciated greatly while Bush Jr. was in the White House.Emigrate to France or Sweden.The French are also leading in medicine and science at this time.
Sweden has a good system as well.
Problem solved.
As a crude indicator, one can use the difference in health cares share of GDP between the United States and similar countries to gauge the magnitude of inefficiency.
Looking at the average for Canada, Germany, Japan, Sweden, Britain, and France, it appears that the amount of resources devoted to health care in the United States that may be due to inefficiency is roughly 5 percent of GDP (15.3 percent in the United States in 2006, versus 9.6 percent, the average for the six comparison countries, all of which have better health outcomes).
28 Put another way, judging from the spending and outcomes in other countries, efficiency improvements in the U.S. health care system potentially could free up resources equal to 5 percent of U.S. GDP. This is, however, only a rough measure. It may well be that because of other differences between the various countries the true level is smaller. But, this estimate is a useful guidepost.29
I am certain that if you learn a marketable skill and become gainfully employed that you will be able to afford health insurance.
Further evidence that the high level of spending in the United States reflects inefficiency
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There are no statistical indicators I can think that in any way suggests that the Aemrican HC delivery system is even remotely more efficient or offers better HC than the HC delivery systems of Europe.
You guys who imagine otherwise, those of you who imagine that the USA system is efficient or deliverers better HC outcomes, are quite simply WRONG.
I'd move tomorrow, but the dollar depreciated greatly while Bush Jr. was in the White House.Emigrate to France or Sweden.The French are also leading in medicine and science at this time.
Sweden has a good system as well.
Problem solved.
Sept. 9 (Bloomberg) -- The dollar dropped to the weakest level in almost a year against the currencies of six major U.S. trading partners as record low borrowing costs encouraged investors to sell the greenback and buy higher-yielding assets.
Thomas Jefferson would disagree about the government not being afraid.Ame®icano;1498498 said:There are many benefits of French healthcare systems. But that system also has it's flaws.
About 25% of French national income goes to their social security that also covers healthcare. System is in constant deficit and result in additional annual levy in order to keep it running, while is covering 83% of population.
We can't have French model for the following reasons:
*French government is afraid of the French people, US government is not afraid of anyone, especially of the American people
*French government is not spending social security revenue on anything but social security (healthcare included), US social security and other government run programs are broke
*French doctor earnings are controlled by the government (up to $100K), US doctor earnings are limited only by their expertise (better doctor you are, more you earn), for example, French doctor earn two times more then their national average, while US doctor earn five times more then US nat'l average
"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty."
Thomas Jefferson
True, the dollar has gone down, but the euro went from about 85 cents to well over $1.50 under Bush Jr.Ame®icano;1499234 said:I'd move tomorrow, but the dollar depreciated greatly while Bush Jr. was in the White House.Emigrate to France or Sweden.
Problem solved.
Sept. 9 (Bloomberg) -- The dollar dropped to the weakest level in almost a year against the currencies of six major U.S. trading partners as record low borrowing costs encouraged investors to sell the greenback and buy higher-yielding assets.
Dollar Falls to Lowest in Almost Year on Borrowing Costs
It's not merely a coincidence that the right has ignored the French model of universal healthcare.
Ame®icano;1498498 said:There are many benefits of French healthcare systems. But that system also has it's flaws.
About 25% of French national income goes to their social security that also covers healthcare. System is in constant deficit and result in additional annual levy in order to keep it running, while is covering 83% of population.
We can't have French model for the following reasons:
*French government is afraid of the French people, US government is not afraid of anyone, especially of the American people
*French government is not spending social security revenue on anything but social security (healthcare included), US social security and other government run programs are broke
*French doctor earnings are controlled by the government (up to $100K), US doctor earnings are limited only by their expertise (better doctor you are, more you earn), for example, French doctor earn two times more then their national average, while US doctor earn five times more then US nat'l average
Almost everything in your post is false.
We can do whatever we want to do, so stop whinning.
French doctors make less because there are more of them. Supply and demand.
The reason there are more of them is that medical schools are free in France.
Healthcare costs are also cheaper there because they limit doctor liability.
And social security is not broke, although the Republicans would like to be, so they could give all the money to their buddies on Wall Street.
It's not merely a coincidence that the right has ignored the French model of universal healthcare.
What is no coincidence that the left is ignoring the problems of the French system. It is financially unsustainable and losing money by the millions.
It's not merely a coincidence that the right has ignored the French model of universal healthcare.
What is no coincidence that the left is ignoring the problems of the French system. It is financially unsustainable and losing money by the millions.
If the French system is "financially unsustainable" what would you call a system that costs almost 50% more per capita, and whose costs are growing at a higher rate?
Like, oh, the US system?
I mean sure, by all means be aware of the issues that would still be faced if the US adopted the French system, no system is ever going to be perfect and keeping an eye on the flaws to make sure they're kept under control is well and good... but bitching about the "financial sustainability" of a system that blows the one you're currently using right out of the water on that particular measurement? That's just silly.
French healthcare is 'badly run'
France must make big changes to its health system in order to cut waste and increase efficiency, a government-commissioned report is warning.
The report says citizens must pay more and doctors must alter their behaviour.
Failure to do so could add 66 billion euros a year to France's public budget deficit by 2020, it adds
French healthcare is 'badly run'
France must make big changes to its health system in order to cut waste and increase efficiency, a government-commissioned report is warning.
The report says citizens must pay more and doctors must alter their behaviour.
Failure to do so could add 66 billion euros a year to France's public budget deficit by 2020, it adds
Ummm.... and?
Yes, the French have some cost issues to deal with. So do most other nations. But the US has the worst. And not by a little bit either, by a LOT. Trading the US cost problems for the French cost problems would be a giant improvement. Get it? Is this sinking in? Perhaps a couple visual aids?
See how the US is way off by itself on both of those? That's not because it's 'winning' or something. This getting through at all?
You are missing the point Vernon.
I do not favor the present system that we have in the US - I favor a free market system - meaning : NO government regulations and abolishing medicaid and medicare.
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You are missing the point Vernon.
I do not favor the present system that we have in the US - I favor a free market system - meaning : NO government regulations and abolishing medicaid and medicare.
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Ah yes. The "every other nation acheives lower costs with higher public sector involvement... therefore let's run as fast as we can in the opposite direction, that'll totally work!" approach.
Never hear enough about that one.
You are missing the point Vernon.
I do not favor the present system that we have in the US - I favor a free market system - meaning : NO government regulations and abolishing medicaid and medicare.
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Ah yes. The "every other nation acheives lower costs with higher public sector involvement... therefore let's run as fast as we can in the opposite direction, that'll totally work!" approach.
Never hear enough about that one.
Ask you parents how much they paid for a doctor's visit prior to 1965 - prior to Medicaid/medicare going into effect.
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It's not merely a coincidence that the right has ignored the French model of universal healthcare.
They have ignored it because the French system is better than ours. It is a great model for everyone.
I like the fact that the French medical schools are free, so the French have more doctors per capita than we do.
Ask you parents how much they paid for a doctor's visit prior to 1965 - prior to Medicaid/medicare going into effect.
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Are you kidding?
Sure, I'll go do that. While I'm at it I'll ask them how much a candy bar cost too then be shocked and amazed at the answer to that.
The cost of healthcare rose IMMEDIATELY after medicaid / medicare went into effect. The federal government was willing to pay a lot more for a visit than the average patient could afford. You do the math. .
