The Flint Water Crisis: An insight into Republicanism.

This is a terrible situation all around. Just more proof that big government is not looking out for your best interest. Huge lawsuits will be the end result
 
Snyder is the merely latest in the long list of people responsible for the Inevitable Failure of Progressive leadership: the Kulaks, the Capitalists, the Jews, the 1%, Gov Snyder

Snyder is too popular in Michigan for the Rats to tolerate. He guided Detroit through the bankruptcy and has had the Capitol building in Lansing fumigated to rid it from the Jennifer Granholm years of corruption and ineptitude. The DNC is terrified it could lose Michigan to the GOP, hence, the attack on a successful Governor.
 
Drinking water is subject to EPA regulations. I find it impossible to believe the water's poisons were not detected from the very first day.


Most cities and towns process the water at treatment plants before the water is tested for EPA compliance and is then piped to residential homes and industries.

Types of Water - Municipal
 
I just heard this morning they are not even supposed to bathe in the water or do regular household chores with it.
I can't even imagine living under those conditions.
 
There is an eerie silence on these boards about the ongoing water scandal in Flint Michigan with good reason. This crisis uncovers a republican tendency to do things that end up being detrimental to their constituents and everyone living near them.

The Snyder administration sparked the chain of events that led to the crisis back in April, 2014 amid a financial downturn. To save money, the decision to switch Flint's water source from Lake Huron to the Flint River was made on the ill fated advise of a state sanctioned emergency manager to Flint.

Noteworthy is the revelation that the Flint River had long had a reputation for being nasty when the state made the switch.. But the burgeoning indifference doesn't stop there. A 2011 study indicated that Flint River water had to be treated with anti- corrosion agents before it could be fit for human consumption. That didn't happen. Therein lies the culpability...the republicans dropped the ball and, either through abject stupidity or indifference, they failed those who put their trust ini them.

There is more. The callousness of these Michigan republicans underlines the inclination of the GOP to put material interests above human interests. Michael Pitt, a member of the law team representing the victims, puts it this way:


"He further lambasted state officials who, he alleged, learned of elevated lead levels in children's blood in 2014 and did nothing."


"They were staring at a public health emergency, and they sat on it for over 10 months," he said, further criticizing leaders who assured residents the water was safe when they knew it wasn't true"..


If what Pitt said is true, there is an element of criminality here.

Although these developments are shocking, I am not surprised by the cold insensitiveness of the Michigan republicans towards the people of Flint. Republicans have been against everything that makes America a better place to live for all classes of Americans. Some of the things republicans have tried to undermine is social security, MEDICARE and, ironically, the EPA. If they had their way there would be NO safety nets and the Great Depression might never have ended. Child labor would still be an ongoing phenomenon.

Given the historical agenda of republicanism...it should be clear that their actions speak louder than their words. If Trump wins, I fear the Flint water crisis gives us a glimpse of things to come. With a GOP congress, and GOP USSC to compliment Trumps in the White House..... be afraid...for nothing you breathe, drink or eat will be safe.
Progressives invented political corruption...
 
Flint was decimated by the leftist who ran the city forever. The city council approved the switch off of Detroit's water system

And in this instance shit flowed downstream from Detroit to Flint thanks to Kwame and rest of the Rats who ran Motown into the dirt. Neither water bills or property taxes were paid for years in Detroit thanks to a city government that never showed up for work. When Snyder put the city into bankruptcy the water dept was about their only asset left, but it had to be included in the process. Flint city council voted to use the Flint River instead of Detroit water on their own volition. Water can flow though lead pipes as long as it isn't caustic enough to leech....Flint River water was little more than sewer water in the first place.

A new pipe is being dug to Lake Huron and Flint will have their own potable water soon. Lead poisoning is a long-term process and the health "emergency" is overblown hype. The city is once again on Detroit water and the "crisis" is over. I seriously doubt many residents used the river water because it stank and tasted horrible. This is a political attack on Synder...nothing more. :eusa_snooty:
 
There is an eerie silence on these boards about the ongoing water scandal in Flint Michigan with good reason. This crisis uncovers a republican tendency to do things that end up being detrimental to their constituents and everyone living near them.

The Snyder administration sparked the chain of events that led to the crisis back in April, 2014 amid a financial downturn. To save money, the decision to switch Flint's water source from Lake Huron to the Flint River was made on the ill fated advise of a state sanctioned emergency manager to Flint.

Noteworthy is the revelation that the Flint River had long had a reputation for being nasty when the state made the switch.. But the burgeoning indifference doesn't stop there. A 2011 study indicated that Flint River water had to be treated with anti- corrosion agents before it could be fit for human consumption. That didn't happen. Therein lies the culpability...the republicans dropped the ball and, either through abject stupidity or indifference, they failed those who put their trust ini them.

There is more. The callousness of these Michigan republicans underlines the inclination of the GOP to put material interests above human interests. Michael Pitt, a member of the law team representing the victims, puts it this way:


"He further lambasted state officials who, he alleged, learned of elevated lead levels in children's blood in 2014 and did nothing."


"They were staring at a public health emergency, and they sat on it for over 10 months," he said, further criticizing leaders who assured residents the water was safe when they knew it wasn't true"..


If what Pitt said is true, there is an element of criminality here.

Although these developments are shocking, I am not surprised by the cold insensitiveness of the Michigan republicans towards the people of Flint. Republicans have been against everything that makes America a better place to live for all classes of Americans. Some of the things republicans have tried to undermine is social security, MEDICARE and, ironically, the EPA. If they had their way there would be NO safety nets and the Great Depression might never have ended. Child labor would still be an ongoing phenomenon.

Given the historical agenda of republicanism...it should be clear that their actions speak louder than their words. If Trump wins, I fear the Flint water crisis gives us a glimpse of things to come. With a GOP congress, and GOP USSC to compliment Trumps in the White House..... be afraid...for nothing you breathe, drink or eat will be safe.

You're a liar. The city mayor and your muslime hero's EPA let this happen:

The EPA’s top Midwest official told The Detroit News the agency knew about the lack of corrosion control in the water supply as early as April, after an EPA official identified problems with the drinking water, but did not make the information public.

The paper also cited email exchanges between EPA officials and Walling showing what it described as a “lack of urgency” over the matter and a greater focus on procedure rather than public safety. Walling and other officials repeatedly told residents the water was safe but blamed state and federal agencies for the problems.


Blame game erupts over Flint’s toxic water, Dems target GOP gov | Fox News


This is the same EPA, run by Hussein's political hacks, that turned the Animas River in Colorado into this:

A liar is some one who knowingly makes false statements. The key word here is "knowingly."

That definition doesn't apply to anything I have said in the op nor to anything YOU have said because, in this case, we both depend on the data collected by media experts to be accurate.

You chose Fox News as your "credible" source and I chose to use several sources. If those sources conflict, that doesn't make either of us a liar... The author of the original article might be lying or distorting the truth so the prudent posters usually consult more than one source for validation.

Fox News has shown RW bias at times so I am a bit skeptical about Fox's credibility. I therefore frequently look for validation elsewhere whenever Fox is used as a link.

Ok, now that our emotions are settling back to normal, perhaps we can have a serious discussion about who is responsible for the Flint water debacle.


Ultimately, I think much of the blame rests with Governor Snyder (R) although a former democrat mayor might share some of the culpability also. From your own link:

"There is little question that the state bears significant responsibility for the public health crisis. Snyder apologized in December and Michigan's top environmental regulator, Dan Wyant, resigned after a task force created by Snyder blamed problems on his agency."

Are you prepared to place the "liar" cloak on your own source?

As I have already posited, it was common knowledge at least as far back as 2011 that the Flint River was heavily contaminated.... A study showed how toxic the water was and provided recommendations as to what it would take to make flint River water potable.

Now here is the problem. Sometime in April 2013 the Snyder administration sent a manager to head off a looming financial crisis that threatened the city. The manager, an unelected official, answered to the governor; not to the people of Flint.

Cost cutting involved harsh austerity measures which were now implemented by the manager. The democrat mayor really had no say about much as this manager had likely usurped most of the mayor's power. It was during the tenure of this 'manager" that the decision to switch water supplies was made. However it was done without applying the recommended water processing suggested by the 2011 study! The question now is who made that decision? Was it that anonymous manager or was it officials from the city of Flint? That information is conspicuously absent for now.

Here is one clue from the Atlantic:


The problem dates back to April 2014, when Flint was under the direction of an emergency manager appointed by the state to try to fix the broken city. (Michigan law provides for the governor to select managers, and the provision has been used in several places in recent years, most prominently Detroit.) To save money, the city began drawing its water from the Flint River, rather than from Detroit’s system, which was deemed too costly. But the river’s water was high in salt, which helped corrode Flint’s aging pipes, leaching lead into the water supply.

That synopsis bolsters an opinion that the crucial decision to save money by switching water sources was made by the manager. Actually,though, it would be logical to assume the manager was unaware of the lead treat at that time. I assume the toxic Flint river water was be processed the same as the previous source. it was deemed potable but the high salt content also presented a health risk that was "overlooked."

Over all, I would say the water was never made 100% potable but was relatively safe until the salt content started to corrode lead pipes which in turn accommodated lead leeching . The Atlantic article describes it this way:


The water starting smelling like rotten eggs. Engineers responded to that problem by jacking up the chlorine level, leading to dangerous toxicity. GM discovered that city water was corroding engines at a Flint factory and switched sources. Then children and others started getting rashes and falling sick. Marc Edwards, a Virginia Tech environmental-engineering professor, found that the water had nearly 900 times the recommend EPA limit for lead particles. As my colleague Alana Semuels noted in a deeply reported feature in July 2015, residents believe the city knew about problems as soon as May 2014. Yet as late as February 2015, even after tests showed dangerous lead levels, officials were telling residents there was no threat.

As culpability expands across a widening spectrum of politicians, Gov. Snyder has refused to say when he first learned of lead leeching into the Flint water supply. That is worrisome; but ,at the same time , quite revealing. From the Atlantic afrticle:

"On Thursday, while declaring the state of emergency, Snyder wouldn’t say when he became aware of the lead problem in Flint. The governor—who likes to portray himself as a can-do manager—reportedly grew testy when asked repeatedly about his own awareness.*


Nevertheless, an e-mail obtained through a FOI request back in July 2015 from Snyder's then chief of staff to a health department official nails it.

C.O.S. Dennis Muchore wrote:


I'm frustrated by the water issue in Flint I really don't think people are getting the benefit of the doubt. Now they are concerned and rightfully so about the lead level studies they are receiving. These folks are scared and worried about the health impacts and they are basically getting blown off by us (as a state we're just not sympathizing with their plight).
 
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There is an eerie silence on these boards about the ongoing water scandal in Flint Michigan with good reason. This crisis uncovers a republican tendency to do things that end up being detrimental to their constituents and everyone living near them.

The Snyder administration sparked the chain of events that led to the crisis back in April, 2014 amid a financial downturn. To save money, the decision to switch Flint's water source from Lake Huron to the Flint River was made on the ill fated advise of a state sanctioned emergency manager to Flint.

Noteworthy is the revelation that the Flint River had long had a reputation for being nasty when the state made the switch.. But the burgeoning indifference doesn't stop there. A 2011 study indicated that Flint River water had to be treated with anti- corrosion agents before it could be fit for human consumption. That didn't happen. Therein lies the culpability...the republicans dropped the ball and, either through abject stupidity or indifference, they failed those who put their trust ini them.

There is more. The callousness of these Michigan republicans underlines the inclination of the GOP to put material interests above human interests. Michael Pitt, a member of the law team representing the victims, puts it this way:


"He further lambasted state officials who, he alleged, learned of elevated lead levels in children's blood in 2014 and did nothing."


"They were staring at a public health emergency, and they sat on it for over 10 months," he said, further criticizing leaders who assured residents the water was safe when they knew it wasn't true"..


If what Pitt said is true, there is an element of criminality here.

Although these developments are shocking, I am not surprised by the cold insensitiveness of the Michigan republicans towards the people of Flint. Republicans have been against everything that makes America a better place to live for all classes of Americans. Some of the things republicans have tried to undermine is social security, MEDICARE and, ironically, the EPA. If they had their way there would be NO safety nets and the Great Depression might never have ended. Child labor would still be an ongoing phenomenon.

Given the historical agenda of republicanism...it should be clear that their actions speak louder than their words. If Trump wins, I fear the Flint water crisis gives us a glimpse of things to come. With a GOP congress, and GOP USSC to compliment Trumps in the White House..... be afraid...for nothing you breathe, drink or eat will be safe.

You're a liar. The city mayor and your muslime hero's EPA let this happen:

The EPA’s top Midwest official told The Detroit News the agency knew about the lack of corrosion control in the water supply as early as April, after an EPA official identified problems with the drinking water, but did not make the information public.

The paper also cited email exchanges between EPA officials and Walling showing what it described as a “lack of urgency” over the matter and a greater focus on procedure rather than public safety. Walling and other officials repeatedly told residents the water was safe but blamed state and federal agencies for the problems.


Blame game erupts over Flint’s toxic water, Dems target GOP gov | Fox News


This is the same EPA, run by Hussein's political hacks, that turned the Animas River in Colorado into this:

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Yeah, but the city mayor was a democrat. You have to go up and down the list of names until you find a Republican, then you blame everything on that person. The democrats don't actually exist when it comes to things like this.
 
There is an eerie silence on these boards about the ongoing water scandal in Flint Michigan with good reason. This crisis uncovers a republican tendency to do things that end up being detrimental to their constituents and everyone living near them.

The Snyder administration sparked the chain of events that led to the crisis back in April, 2014 amid a financial downturn. To save money, the decision to switch Flint's water source from Lake Huron to the Flint River was made on the ill fated advise of a state sanctioned emergency manager to Flint.

Noteworthy is the revelation that the Flint River had long had a reputation for being nasty when the state made the switch.. But the burgeoning indifference doesn't stop there. A 2011 study indicated that Flint River water had to be treated with anti- corrosion agents before it could be fit for human consumption. That didn't happen. Therein lies the culpability...the republicans dropped the ball and, either through abject stupidity or indifference, they failed those who put their trust ini them.

There is more. The callousness of these Michigan republicans underlines the inclination of the GOP to put material interests above human interests. Michael Pitt, a member of the law team representing the victims, puts it this way:


"He further lambasted state officials who, he alleged, learned of elevated lead levels in children's blood in 2014 and did nothing."


"They were staring at a public health emergency, and they sat on it for over 10 months," he said, further criticizing leaders who assured residents the water was safe when they knew it wasn't true"..


If what Pitt said is true, there is an element of criminality here.

Although these developments are shocking, I am not surprised by the cold insensitiveness of the Michigan republicans towards the people of Flint. Republicans have been against everything that makes America a better place to live for all classes of Americans. Some of the things republicans have tried to undermine is social security, MEDICARE and, ironically, the EPA. If they had their way there would be NO safety nets and the Great Depression might never have ended. Child labor would still be an ongoing phenomenon.

Given the historical agenda of republicanism...it should be clear that their actions speak louder than their words. If Trump wins, I fear the Flint water crisis gives us a glimpse of things to come. With a GOP congress, and GOP USSC to compliment Trumps in the White House..... be afraid...for nothing you breathe, drink or eat will be safe.


NOT A REPUBLICAN BUT

Drinking Water Is Becoming Increasingly Toxic — And Scarce

As reported by The Atlantic,10 aging water pipes have become a source of toxic exposure that many fail to recognize. While the article describes the situation in Flint, Michigan, many other areas around the US struggle with similar problems:"
 
There is an eerie silence on these boards about the ongoing water scandal in Flint Michigan with good reason. This crisis uncovers a republican tendency to do things that end up being detrimental to their constituents and everyone living near them.

The Snyder administration sparked the chain of events that led to the crisis back in April, 2014 amid a financial downturn. To save money, the decision to switch Flint's water source from Lake Huron to the Flint River was made on the ill fated advise of a state sanctioned emergency manager to Flint.

Noteworthy is the revelation that the Flint River had long had a reputation for being nasty when the state made the switch.. But the burgeoning indifference doesn't stop there. A 2011 study indicated that Flint River water had to be treated with anti- corrosion agents before it could be fit for human consumption. That didn't happen. Therein lies the culpability...the republicans dropped the ball and, either through abject stupidity or indifference, they failed those who put their trust ini them.

There is more. The callousness of these Michigan republicans underlines the inclination of the GOP to put material interests above human interests. Michael Pitt, a member of the law team representing the victims, puts it this way:


"He further lambasted state officials who, he alleged, learned of elevated lead levels in children's blood in 2014 and did nothing."


"They were staring at a public health emergency, and they sat on it for over 10 months," he said, further criticizing leaders who assured residents the water was safe when they knew it wasn't true"..


If what Pitt said is true, there is an element of criminality here.

Although these developments are shocking, I am not surprised by the cold insensitiveness of the Michigan republicans towards the people of Flint. Republicans have been against everything that makes America a better place to live for all classes of Americans. Some of the things republicans have tried to undermine is social security, MEDICARE and, ironically, the EPA. If they had their way there would be NO safety nets and the Great Depression might never have ended. Child labor would still be an ongoing phenomenon.

Given the historical agenda of republicanism...it should be clear that their actions speak louder than their words. If Trump wins, I fear the Flint water crisis gives us a glimpse of things to come. With a GOP congress, and GOP USSC to compliment Trumps in the White House..... be afraid...for nothing you breathe, drink or eat will be safe.

You're a liar. The city mayor and your muslime hero's EPA let this happen:

The EPA’s top Midwest official told The Detroit News the agency knew about the lack of corrosion control in the water supply as early as April, after an EPA official identified problems with the drinking water, but did not make the information public.

The paper also cited email exchanges between EPA officials and Walling showing what it described as a “lack of urgency” over the matter and a greater focus on procedure rather than public safety. Walling and other officials repeatedly told residents the water was safe but blamed state and federal agencies for the problems.


Blame game erupts over Flint’s toxic water, Dems target GOP gov | Fox News


This is the same EPA, run by Hussein's political hacks, that turned the Animas River in Colorado into this:

6000.jpg
Yeah, but the city mayor was a democrat. You have to go up and down the list of names until you find a Republican, then you blame everything on that person. The democrats don't actually exist when it comes to things like this.

When the Emergency Manager is in place, the mayor has no legislative authority.
 
"a republican tendency to do things that end up being detrimental to their constituents"
The financial issues in Flint are typical Liberal mismangement problems and have nothing to do with Republicans.
Nothing like sound fiscal policy which poisons people! Once the lawsuits and pipe replacements have finally been tallied up, I'm pretty sure the Republican psychopaths who killed all those people will have cost Flint quite a lot more money than they saved. Not to mention all those brain damaged kids. Of course, they're just a bunch of darkies, right? Who cares!
Its still Liberal mismanagement that brought Flint to this sorry end and by the way I have mixed race children so try that race card shit somewere else.
It's the decline in manufacturing jobs that destroyed Flint. Not all changes in the world are due to mismanagement, and your hyper-partisan "liberals are responsible for everything bad and conservatives are responsible for everything good" psychosis IS the real problem.

I don't give a damn what your family is like. If you think the world is color blind, then it's time to wake up.
 
There is an eerie silence on these boards about the ongoing water scandal in Flint Michigan with good reason. This crisis uncovers a republican tendency to do things that end up being detrimental to their constituents and everyone living near them.

The Snyder administration sparked the chain of events that led to the crisis back in April, 2014 amid a financial downturn. To save money, the decision to switch Flint's water source from Lake Huron to the Flint River was made on the ill fated advise of a state sanctioned emergency manager to Flint.

Noteworthy is the revelation that the Flint River had long had a reputation for being nasty when the state made the switch.. But the burgeoning indifference doesn't stop there. A 2011 study indicated that Flint River water had to be treated with anti- corrosion agents before it could be fit for human consumption. That didn't happen. Therein lies the culpability...the republicans dropped the ball and, either through abject stupidity or indifference, they failed those who put their trust ini them.

There is more. The callousness of these Michigan republicans underlines the inclination of the GOP to put material interests above human interests. Michael Pitt, a member of the law team representing the victims, puts it this way:


"He further lambasted state officials who, he alleged, learned of elevated lead levels in children's blood in 2014 and did nothing."


"They were staring at a public health emergency, and they sat on it for over 10 months," he said, further criticizing leaders who assured residents the water was safe when they knew it wasn't true"..


If what Pitt said is true, there is an element of criminality here.

Although these developments are shocking, I am not surprised by the cold insensitiveness of the Michigan republicans towards the people of Flint. Republicans have been against everything that makes America a better place to live for all classes of Americans. Some of the things republicans have tried to undermine is social security, MEDICARE and, ironically, the EPA. If they had their way there would be NO safety nets and the Great Depression might never have ended. Child labor would still be an ongoing phenomenon.

Given the historical agenda of republicanism...it should be clear that their actions speak louder than their words. If Trump wins, I fear the Flint water crisis gives us a glimpse of things to come. With a GOP congress, and GOP USSC to compliment Trumps in the White House..... be afraid...for nothing you breathe, drink or eat will be safe.
Flint is controlled by Democrats.
 
There is an eerie silence on these boards about the ongoing water scandal in Flint Michigan with good reason. This crisis uncovers a republican tendency to do things that end up being detrimental to their constituents and everyone living near them.

The Snyder administration sparked the chain of events that led to the crisis back in April, 2014 amid a financial downturn. To save money, the decision to switch Flint's water source from Lake Huron to the Flint River was made on the ill fated advise of a state sanctioned emergency manager to Flint.

Noteworthy is the revelation that the Flint River had long had a reputation for being nasty when the state made the switch.. But the burgeoning indifference doesn't stop there. A 2011 study indicated that Flint River water had to be treated with anti- corrosion agents before it could be fit for human consumption. That didn't happen. Therein lies the culpability...the republicans dropped the ball and, either through abject stupidity or indifference, they failed those who put their trust ini them.

There is more. The callousness of these Michigan republicans underlines the inclination of the GOP to put material interests above human interests. Michael Pitt, a member of the law team representing the victims, puts it this way:


"He further lambasted state officials who, he alleged, learned of elevated lead levels in children's blood in 2014 and did nothing."


"They were staring at a public health emergency, and they sat on it for over 10 months," he said, further criticizing leaders who assured residents the water was safe when they knew it wasn't true"..


If what Pitt said is true, there is an element of criminality here.

Although these developments are shocking, I am not surprised by the cold insensitiveness of the Michigan republicans towards the people of Flint. Republicans have been against everything that makes America a better place to live for all classes of Americans. Some of the things republicans have tried to undermine is social security, MEDICARE and, ironically, the EPA. If they had their way there would be NO safety nets and the Great Depression might never have ended. Child labor would still be an ongoing phenomenon.

Given the historical agenda of republicanism...it should be clear that their actions speak louder than their words. If Trump wins, I fear the Flint water crisis gives us a glimpse of things to come. With a GOP congress, and GOP USSC to compliment Trumps in the White House..... be afraid...for nothing you breathe, drink or eat will be safe.
Flint is controlled by Democrats.
But, but, hope n change, hope n change!
 
"a republican tendency to do things that end up being detrimental to their constituents"
The financial issues in Flint are typical Liberal mismangement problems and have nothing to do with Republicans.
Nothing like sound fiscal policy which poisons people! Once the lawsuits and pipe replacements have finally been tallied up, I'm pretty sure the Republican psychopaths who killed all those people will have cost Flint quite a lot more money than they saved. Not to mention all those brain damaged kids. Of course, they're just a bunch of darkies, right? Who cares!
Its still Liberal mismanagement that brought Flint to this sorry end and by the way I have mixed race children so try that race card shit somewere else.
Your wild assumptions don't matter here; so, why don't you read the 2011 report that gives exhaustive insight into Flint's financial woes and why they occurred?
http://expeng.anr.msu.edu/uploads/files/42/MSUE_FlintCaseStudy-2011 2.pdf
 

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