The First Amendment's future in doubt with the current crop of college students

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Based on what I've been seeing this last decade or so, I really have doubts about the upcoming generation's stewardship of free speech.

College Students Say Free Speech Has Its Limits

Last fall, the football team at the University of Missouri went on strike to protest slow administrative response to incidents of racial harassment on campus—joining other students in a movement that resulted in the resignation of the school’s president.

Although students at the school asserted their right to protest, a viral video of Tim Tai, a student photojournalist, being blocked from documenting what was happening raised concerns over whether free speech rights on the campus were eroding.

RELATED:Activists Claim Victory After Harvard Drops School Seal With Ties to Slavery

“The First Amendment protects your right to be here and mine,” Tai told the protesters gathered around him. “Forget a law. How about humanity and respect?” replied a student. A few minutes later, professor Melissa Click, now fired, could be seen trying to prohibit another student from recording the incident. “Hey, who wants to help me get this reporter out of here?” Click yells to the protesters.

According to a Gallup survey of college students released Monday in collaboration with the Knight Foundation and the Newseum Institute, most undergraduates across the United States believe First Amendment rights are secure. At the same time, nearly half think some restrictions on free speech are justified.

“Students do appear to distinguish controversial views from what they see as hate. They believe colleges should be allowed to establish policies restricting language and behavior that are intentionally offensive to certain groups, but not the expression of political views that may upset or offend members of certain groups,” wrote the authors of a report accompanying the survey.

The survey polled a nationally respresentative sample of 3,000 college students 18 to 24 about their attitudes toward the First Amendment. While 78 percent of students surveyed said “colleges should expose students to all types of speech and viewpoints,” the report’s authors note that 69 percent believe policies against slurs and intentionally offensive language are needed.

That’s comparable to the findings of The American Freshman: National Norms Fall 2015, an annual survey by the Higher Education Research Institute at the University of California, Los Angeles. Roughly 71 percent of respondents to UCLA’s survey agreed that schools should prohibit racist or sexist speech on campus, up from 60 percent in the early 1990s.

RELATED: When It Comes to Protests, Boomers and Gen X Got Nothin’ on Millennial

Bad news for students who dress in blackface or as Native Americans at Halloween: 63 percent of respondents to Gallup’s poll said schools should be able to restrict students from wearing costumes that stereotype racial or ethnic groups.

Only 27 percent of students who responded to the poll believe a school should be able to restrict students from expressing politically offensive views.


College Students Say Free Speech Has Its Limits
 
Based on what I've been seeing this last decade or so, I really have doubts about the upcoming generation's stewardship of free speech.

College Students Say Free Speech Has Its Limits

Last fall, the football team at the University of Missouri went on strike to protest slow administrative response to incidents of racial harassment on campus—joining other students in a movement that resulted in the resignation of the school’s president.

Although students at the school asserted their right to protest, a viral video of Tim Tai, a student photojournalist, being blocked from documenting what was happening raised concerns over whether free speech rights on the campus were eroding.

RELATED:Activists Claim Victory After Harvard Drops School Seal With Ties to Slavery

“The First Amendment protects your right to be here and mine,” Tai told the protesters gathered around him. “Forget a law. How about humanity and respect?” replied a student. A few minutes later, professor Melissa Click, now fired, could be seen trying to prohibit another student from recording the incident. “Hey, who wants to help me get this reporter out of here?” Click yells to the protesters.

According to a Gallup survey of college students released Monday in collaboration with the Knight Foundation and the Newseum Institute, most undergraduates across the United States believe First Amendment rights are secure. At the same time, nearly half think some restrictions on free speech are justified.

“Students do appear to distinguish controversial views from what they see as hate. They believe colleges should be allowed to establish policies restricting language and behavior that are intentionally offensive to certain groups, but not the expression of political views that may upset or offend members of certain groups,” wrote the authors of a report accompanying the survey.

The survey polled a nationally respresentative sample of 3,000 college students 18 to 24 about their attitudes toward the First Amendment. While 78 percent of students surveyed said “colleges should expose students to all types of speech and viewpoints,” the report’s authors note that 69 percent believe policies against slurs and intentionally offensive language are needed.

That’s comparable to the findings of The American Freshman: National Norms Fall 2015, an annual survey by the Higher Education Research Institute at the University of California, Los Angeles. Roughly 71 percent of respondents to UCLA’s survey agreed that schools should prohibit racist or sexist speech on campus, up from 60 percent in the early 1990s.

RELATED: When It Comes to Protests, Boomers and Gen X Got Nothin’ on Millennial

Bad news for students who dress in blackface or as Native Americans at Halloween: 63 percent of respondents to Gallup’s poll said schools should be able to restrict students from wearing costumes that stereotype racial or ethnic groups.

Only 27 percent of students who responded to the poll believe a school should be able to restrict students from expressing politically offensive views.


College Students Say Free Speech Has Its Limits
Based on the thread premise, there's no doubt most on the right are ignorant concerning the First Amendment.

No right is absolute, free speech is in fact subject to limitations.
 
Only government has the authority to place limits on free speech, consistent with First Amendment jurisprudence, not private citizens; one private person cannot "violate" the free speech rights of another.

Consequently, "concerns" about the future of free speech is unwarranted, nothing but demagoguery.
 
Based on what I've been seeing this last decade or so, I really have doubts about the upcoming generation's stewardship of free speech.

College Students Say Free Speech Has Its Limits

Last fall, the football team at the University of Missouri went on strike to protest slow administrative response to incidents of racial harassment on campus—joining other students in a movement that resulted in the resignation of the school’s president.

Although students at the school asserted their right to protest, a viral video of Tim Tai, a student photojournalist, being blocked from documenting what was happening raised concerns over whether free speech rights on the campus were eroding.

RELATED:Activists Claim Victory After Harvard Drops School Seal With Ties to Slavery

“The First Amendment protects your right to be here and mine,” Tai told the protesters gathered around him. “Forget a law. How about humanity and respect?” replied a student. A few minutes later, professor Melissa Click, now fired, could be seen trying to prohibit another student from recording the incident. “Hey, who wants to help me get this reporter out of here?” Click yells to the protesters.

According to a Gallup survey of college students released Monday in collaboration with the Knight Foundation and the Newseum Institute, most undergraduates across the United States believe First Amendment rights are secure. At the same time, nearly half think some restrictions on free speech are justified.

“Students do appear to distinguish controversial views from what they see as hate. They believe colleges should be allowed to establish policies restricting language and behavior that are intentionally offensive to certain groups, but not the expression of political views that may upset or offend members of certain groups,” wrote the authors of a report accompanying the survey.

The survey polled a nationally respresentative sample of 3,000 college students 18 to 24 about their attitudes toward the First Amendment. While 78 percent of students surveyed said “colleges should expose students to all types of speech and viewpoints,” the report’s authors note that 69 percent believe policies against slurs and intentionally offensive language are needed.

That’s comparable to the findings of The American Freshman: National Norms Fall 2015, an annual survey by the Higher Education Research Institute at the University of California, Los Angeles. Roughly 71 percent of respondents to UCLA’s survey agreed that schools should prohibit racist or sexist speech on campus, up from 60 percent in the early 1990s.

RELATED: When It Comes to Protests, Boomers and Gen X Got Nothin’ on Millennial

Bad news for students who dress in blackface or as Native Americans at Halloween: 63 percent of respondents to Gallup’s poll said schools should be able to restrict students from wearing costumes that stereotype racial or ethnic groups.

Only 27 percent of students who responded to the poll believe a school should be able to restrict students from expressing politically offensive views.

College Students Say Free Speech Has Its Limits
Based on the thread premise, there's no doubt most on the right are ignorant concerning the First Amendment.

No right is absolute, free speech is in fact subject to limitations.

Holy shit...Clayton posted something that DIDN'T include the word "fallacy"!!!!
 
Based on what I've been seeing this last decade or so, I really have doubts about the upcoming generation's stewardship of free speech.

College Students Say Free Speech Has Its Limits

Last fall, the football team at the University of Missouri went on strike to protest slow administrative response to incidents of racial harassment on campus—joining other students in a movement that resulted in the resignation of the school’s president.

Although students at the school asserted their right to protest, a viral video of Tim Tai, a student photojournalist, being blocked from documenting what was happening raised concerns over whether free speech rights on the campus were eroding.

RELATED:Activists Claim Victory After Harvard Drops School Seal With Ties to Slavery

“The First Amendment protects your right to be here and mine,” Tai told the protesters gathered around him. “Forget a law. How about humanity and respect?” replied a student. A few minutes later, professor Melissa Click, now fired, could be seen trying to prohibit another student from recording the incident. “Hey, who wants to help me get this reporter out of here?” Click yells to the protesters.

According to a Gallup survey of college students released Monday in collaboration with the Knight Foundation and the Newseum Institute, most undergraduates across the United States believe First Amendment rights are secure. At the same time, nearly half think some restrictions on free speech are justified.

“Students do appear to distinguish controversial views from what they see as hate. They believe colleges should be allowed to establish policies restricting language and behavior that are intentionally offensive to certain groups, but not the expression of political views that may upset or offend members of certain groups,” wrote the authors of a report accompanying the survey.

The survey polled a nationally respresentative sample of 3,000 college students 18 to 24 about their attitudes toward the First Amendment. While 78 percent of students surveyed said “colleges should expose students to all types of speech and viewpoints,” the report’s authors note that 69 percent believe policies against slurs and intentionally offensive language are needed.

That’s comparable to the findings of The American Freshman: National Norms Fall 2015, an annual survey by the Higher Education Research Institute at the University of California, Los Angeles. Roughly 71 percent of respondents to UCLA’s survey agreed that schools should prohibit racist or sexist speech on campus, up from 60 percent in the early 1990s.

RELATED: When It Comes to Protests, Boomers and Gen X Got Nothin’ on Millennial

Bad news for students who dress in blackface or as Native Americans at Halloween: 63 percent of respondents to Gallup’s poll said schools should be able to restrict students from wearing costumes that stereotype racial or ethnic groups.

Only 27 percent of students who responded to the poll believe a school should be able to restrict students from expressing politically offensive views.

College Students Say Free Speech Has Its Limits
Based on the thread premise, there's no doubt most on the right are ignorant concerning the First Amendment.

No right is absolute, free speech is in fact subject to limitations.

Holy shit...Clayton posted something that DIDN'T include the word "fallacy"!!!!
I guess he forgot to use his crutch. He really should make sure to say "fallacy" in every post, otherwise he runs the risk of not sounding smart.
 
He really should make sure to say "fallacy" in every post, otherwise he runs the risk of not sounding smart.

He needs new material. After reading "Hasty generalization fallacy" 7,286 times, one begins to wonder if his mind is a skipping record.

How does he type while wearing a straight jacket?

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"Hasty generalization fallacy, Hasty generalization fallacy, Hasty generalization fallacy, Hasty generalization fallacy, Hasty generalization fallacy, Hasty generalization fallacy,
Hasty generalization fallacy, Hasty generalization fallacy...
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Hasty generalization fallacy, Hasty generalization fallacy, Hasty generalization fallacy, Hasty generalization fallacy...
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee,
Hasty generalization fallacy, Hasty generalization fallacy..."
 
Clayton thinks he can throw conservatives in prison for speaking their mind, without his fellow liberals turning on him and throwing HIM in prison.
 
The idiotic thread premise also fails as a statistics of small numbers fallacy.

What a handful of college students might say or believe concerning ‘free speech’ is in no way objective, documented ‘evidence’ that the future of ‘free speech’ is in any manner ‘in jeopardy.’

The thread premise is inane, overly simplistic, sophomoric, reflecting the ‘reasoning’ of a child.
 
The idiotic thread premise also fails as a statistics of small numbers fallacy.

What a handful of college students might say or believe concerning ‘free speech’ is in no way objective, documented ‘evidence’ that the future of ‘free speech’ is in any manner ‘in jeopardy.’

The thread premise is inane, overly simplistic, sophomoric, reflecting the ‘reasoning’ of a child.

Your post is invalid:

Hasty generalization fallacy.


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