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You misunderstand me. I have no wish to limit the amount of children someone has, but that doesn't mean I cannot conclude that there is something mentally wrong with this woman.It seems to me that this woman is off her rocker.
Then again, she didn't want to destroy her left over fertilized eggs.
Such a dilemma.
Bush likes snowflake babies and he's got a big ranch in Crawford.
I think it will be more like what Roomy has said....she is considered a celebrity now....the money is flowing in from people's generosity....a nanny or two will solve the problem...nothing is unsolvable with this situation....i see it as no big deal...
last year we had a couple of pregnant women that had 7 babies at once through invitro, who also had other children at home, here in the united states, no one complained about these women? What's going on here? Why the outrage? The nanny at the hospital says the mother is a fabulous mother with all her babies...according to the article?
My main concern is that you all think that you should have a say in what this woman does, reproductively....
I see it as absolutely NONE of our business and will fight Universal health care TOOTH AND NAIL, if THIS is what it will be like when it comes in to play....ALL OF YOU deciding for me, what is appropriate and what is not, where it relates to my own body and my own health....
it surprises me ravi, that those that take the stance of abortion being acceptable because the woman should have the right, to privacy regarding her own reproductive choices, yet every pro choice person is now saying the OPPOSITE?
quite confusing...to say the least?
care
I understand fertility treatments to have a baby.
But eight babies?
Come on!
We've got 7 billion people on this planet, half of them living on less than $2 a day.
We do not need to breed like dogs.
You misunderstand me. I have no wish to limit the amount of children someone has, but that doesn't mean I cannot conclude that there is something mentally wrong with this woman.It seems to me that this woman is off her rocker.
Then again, she didn't want to destroy her left over fertilized eggs.
Such a dilemma.
Bush likes snowflake babies and he's got a big ranch in Crawford.
I think it will be more like what Roomy has said....she is considered a celebrity now....the money is flowing in from people's generosity....a nanny or two will solve the problem...nothing is unsolvable with this situation....i see it as no big deal...
last year we had a couple of pregnant women that had 7 babies at once through invitro, who also had other children at home, here in the united states, no one complained about these women? What's going on here? Why the outrage? The nanny at the hospital says the mother is a fabulous mother with all her babies...according to the article?
My main concern is that you all think that you should have a say in what this woman does, reproductively....
I see it as absolutely NONE of our business and will fight Universal health care TOOTH AND NAIL, if THIS is what it will be like when it comes in to play....ALL OF YOU deciding for me, what is appropriate and what is not, where it relates to my own body and my own health....
it surprises me ravi, that those that take the stance of abortion being acceptable because the woman should have the right, to privacy regarding her own reproductive choices, yet every pro choice person is now saying the OPPOSITE?
quite confusing...to say the least?
care
I also think that the way the religious right has elevated a fertilized egg into the equivelent of a living human being may have had something to do with her reluctance to destroy her fertilized eggs.
It's none of our business as long as we don't have to pick up the fucking tab
It's none of our business as long as we don't have to pick up the fucking tab
Ya better we pay for crack babies and methodone addicts next fix. Lets make sure we pay for all the lazy turds in public housing that haven't worked a day in their lives and they are 2nd or 3rd generation welfare queens.
You do not know she is going to get a dime from the Government.
It's none of our business as long as we don't have to pick up the fucking tab
I understand fertility treatments to have a baby.
But eight babies?
Come on!
We've got 7 billion people on this planet, half of them living on less than $2 a day.
We do not need to breed like dogs.
so you think you SHOULD force your views on to other people who think differently editec? or is this just your opinion....but nothing should be done with it?
Force our opinions on them? No.
Encourage them to do something so stupid by paying them to do so.
Not that either.
Please, most women do not have 8 children at once and this is a very rare exception.....you gonna make a mountain out of a mole hill too....tell ya what, she can have the quota that you all seem to have for women, of my babies that i never had...does that spread it out enough for all of you????
This woman is having eight babies at once.
The cost of keeping those premmies alive during their first year of life, will exceed your entire lifetime's income.
We are ALL paying for that, an Care, that is NUTS.
sheesh....
Sheesh indeed.
Care
ps....do i think she is missing something upstairs to take on this huge task before her, YES!!!
One of the things she's apparently missing, CARE is a social conscience.
BUT, this was her choice to make, and her choice alone.....When she was told that 7 babies had been conceived she had the option of aborting some of the fetuses or not....she chose not to....THAT IS WHAT reproductive CHOICE is all about, no?
If she'd taking fertility pills, and she decides that she wants to bring 8 babies to term you know god damened well that she is going to demand and get help to keep them alive in their first year of life.
So it IS our busines, Care, in THIS KIND OF CASE.
Our society will spend a fortune to keep these 8 babies alive but they'll allow 8,000 children to live in squalor because they are NOT SCIENCE FICTION FREAKS.
Yeah, the money the'll be spending on these fertility drug produced babies probably would do MUCH to make the lives of the children we already have in this nation much better.
Put it into some kind of reasonable persepctive, Care.
Don't trap yourself in some kind of goody idealistic notion that FREEDOM means ABSOLUTE FREEDOM.
It doesn't and it cannot because we are all SOCIAL CREATURES..including this mother and her now extant 8 premmies.
REproductive freedom is NOT a societal suicide pact.
its NONE of your business even IF gvt programs help pick up the TAB.....period....as it is none of your business getting involved in any one elses reproductive health choices....is how i see it.....
just like it is none of my business if you get a small business grant from the government....
I understand fertility treatments to have a baby.
But eight babies?
Come on!
We've got 7 billion people on this planet, half of them living on less than $2 a day.
We do not need to breed like dogs.
Force our opinions on them? No.
Encourage them to do something so stupid by paying them to do so.
Not that either.
This woman is having eight babies at once.
The cost of keeping those premmies alive during their first year of life, will exceed your entire lifetime's income.
We are ALL paying for that, an Care, that is NUTS.
Sheesh indeed.
Care
One of the things she's apparently missing, CARE is a social conscience.
BUT, this was her choice to make, and her choice alone.....When she was told that 7 babies had been conceived she had the option of aborting some of the fetuses or not....she chose not to....THAT IS WHAT reproductive CHOICE is all about, no?
If she'd taking fertility pills, and she decides that she wants to bring 8 babies to term you know god damened well that she is going to demand and get help to keep them alive in their first year of life.
So it IS our busines, Care, in THIS KIND OF CASE.
REproductive freedom is NOT a suicide pact.
Editec, why do you think the gvt is paying for this instead of Insurance?
She wanted one more baby from what the articles say....the fertility doctor either implanted all 8 or maybe just 4 or five of them and they divided in to twins on their own....to end up being 8.....her not aborting the extra ones, is what it comes down to, and it appears that she did not want to choose which ones to kill and chose to keep them all, even though her life could be at risk....and by law, us women, have that choice....all of us do...even if it is a high risk pregnancy, where we could die, WE HAVE the final say of our own destiny and we have final say on whether to keep our child to be, or not...PERIOD.
all of her children BUT ONE is breathing on it's own, with absolutely NO SPECIAL preme CARE needed....
Obviously, her body was meant to handle a load or litter such as this....it could have turned out much different, but IT DIDN'T.
Editec, this is such a slippery slope....next, you will determine that someone can't get the medical care for lung cancer, because gvt funds pays for part it....or not at all because the person smoked and gave the lung cancer to themselves!
care
It's none of our business as long as we don't have to pick up the fucking tab
its NONE of your business even IF gvt programs help pick up the TAB.....period....as it is none of your business getting involved in any one elses reproductive health choices....is how i see it.....
just like it is none of my business if you get a small business grant from the government....
its NONE of your business even IF gvt programs help pick up the TAB.....period....as it is none of your business getting involved in any one elses reproductive health choices....is how i see it.....
just like it is none of my business if you get a small business grant from the government....
Everyone has their things that they don't want to pay for.
The larger issue here is the lack of ethics of a fertility specialist who would a) implant 8 pre-embryos in a woman; and b) who would perform an in vitro on someone with six children.
Then there's the psychology of the person who felt the need to have 14 children while not living with their father and living off of her poor mother.
I don't agree with her having so many children, I think it's selfish and irresponsible.
This planet has a finite amount of resources and 6.7 billion humans is more than enough.
I know overpopulation isn't a popular subject, because in a capitalist society the horror of having less customers doesn't bear thinking about. But I reckon pretty soon it's going to become an issue we can't ignore any more.
Editec, why do you think the gvt is paying for this instead of Insurance?
Am I wrong? And if her insurance compan is paying for that I will be EXTREMELY surprised.
She wanted one more baby from what the articles say....the fertility doctor either implanted all 8 or maybe just 4 or five of them and they divided in to twins on their own....to end up being 8.....her not aborting the extra ones, is what it comes down to, and it appears that she did not want to choose which ones to kill and chose to keep them all, even though her life could be at risk....and by law, us women, have that choice....all of us do...even if it is a high risk pregnancy, where we could die, WE HAVE the final say of our own destiny and we have final say on whether to keep our child to be, or not...PERIOD.If she wanted ONE child, and the fertility doctor is responsible for this then HE OUGHT TO PAY FOR THESE KIDS.
all of her children BUT ONE is breathing on it's own, with absolutely NO SPECIAL preme CARE needed....
Surprising.
\Obviously, her body was meant to handle a load or litter such as this....it could have turned out much different, but IT DIDN'T.
Shit happens.
Editec, this is such a slippery slope....next, you will determine that someone can't get the medical care for lung cancer, because gvt funds pays for part it....or not at all because the person smoked and gave the lung cancer to themselves!
care
No, it is NOT slippery at all, Care.
My complain is very specifically addressed to fertility enhancment leading to woman knowingly or unexpectently having litters of children.
Given that you tell me she did not want 8 kids, I am more sympathetic to her personally, and furious with her doctor for allowing that to happen.