The End of Liberalism

[oreo]

"From the very beginning of the Obama presidency Democrats have been acting like kids in a candy store - doubling down on the TARP bailout and the $787 billion stimulus/slush fund. The most recent 1.1 trillion spending bill and now the health care bill which, with a little accounting sleight-of-hand, comes in at under one trillion, the Democrats are spending like there are no more tomorrows.

What will be the results of all of this out of control spending?

The consequences will be many but one of the most surprising results could be the end of liberalism. At least that's the opinion of this editorial in the Washington Examiner. Which begins with this extraordinary statement: " With its most vigorous advocate in memory presiding in the White House and commanding Democratic majorities in Congress, it's difficult to believe that the end of liberalism may be within sight."

In other words, within the lifetimes of the vast majority of living Americans, government as we have known it since the New Deal will become paralyzed, unable to deliver even basic services, let alone the myriad of entitlements that politicians had promised would last forever. Liberalism will owe its undoing to its blind faith that government could forever be the inexhaustible provider of ever more spending, more benefits and more prosperity, with nary a day of reckoning."
American Thinker Blog: The end of liberalism?

There's no doubt that this country will swing wildly to the right over the next 6 to 8 years. The reason why we're here in the first place is that so many in this country forgot what "liberal" meant. Most are too young to remember--& as we know it was an overwhelming youth vote that put Obama in the White house--along with many in the middle of the road class that worried about Obama--but thought this is it--here is our chance to vote for the 1st black American President.

Let's face it, on the campaign trail Obama sounded like a moderate--& he swayed public opinion his way very quickly. Once in office he broke many of his campaign promises & immediately jumped to the left. Hey with Nancy Pelosi & Harry Reid--we are on a run-a-way train with no brakes & they have used this power very efficiently.

What does it spell for the American public? 10+ unemployment with no private sector job growth in site aka (jobless recovery)--the cap & tax bill meant to skyrocket electricity bills taking more money out of American pockets to "save the planet."--& now the health care bill--meant to cure the ills of the health insurance premiums in this country. And all of these bills loaded with billions of pork & nonsense spending==which always equals higher taxes.

The Obama presidency & liberalism is a real education for the youth of this country, & something they'll never forget--& will never vote for again. It's just too bad that every generation has to learn this expensive lesson on their own. My generation was Jimmy Carter.

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No way we will swing far right. We already tried that. It went horribly wrong.

History always repeats itself. 2010 for democrats is going to look worse than 1994 when Republicans gained control over the house--this with a fairly popular President in Bill Clinton & really no economic troubles.

Now you take that scenario & look at today--& 2010 is going to look worse than Custers last stand for democrats. This is the 1st time in my life when I have seen Americans so pissed off at government. I am also talking about people that I know personally who voted for Barack Obama. They're mad as hell.

 

[Big Fitz]

A one party system, what a great idea.
The Conservative Manifesto (feel free to add on as you please)

1. All men are created equal, however, some men are more equal than others.
2. Liberty is a right, and each man is responsible for protecting his own liberty.
3. Laws are made by men, guns provide greater protection than any law made by man.
4. Marriage is God's law, and as such needs to be protected from heretics.
5. Taxes and government are evil artifacts and are hereby abolished.
6. Let the buyer beware
7. If God wants clean water and clean air HE will provide them
8. All lower animals were put on earth by God to serve man.
9. Women were created to serve man, equal rights for equal work is a threat to Gods work.
10. Poor health is a sign of moral lapse and of God's judgement.

Horsecrap. Conservatives are so much with Orwell in showing the tactics of liberalism, that won't fly here.

All animals are equal... but some animals are more equal than others. Sounds like hate crime legislation and affirmative action now doesn't it?

You're only blowing smoke up your own ass here. Pretty much everyone else's figured out your lie here.

 

[☭proletarian☭]

I heard Texas has some weird agreement with the US that if it wants to secede and we won't let it, then it becomes 5 different states. That would mean it would get 10 senators. Can you imagine that? So Austin would be a state, Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, etc. Texas is huge so it could be 4 or 5 seperate states.

What?

 

[PoliticalChic]

"From the very beginning of the Obama presidency Democrats have been acting like kids in a candy store - doubling down on the TARP bailout and the $787 billion stimulus/slush fund. The most recent 1.1 trillion spending bill and now the health care bill which, with a little accounting sleight-of-hand, comes in at under one trillion, the Democrats are spending like there are no more tomorrows.

What will be the results of all of this out of control spending?

The consequences will be many but one of the most surprising results could be the end of liberalism. At least that's the opinion of this editorial in the Washington Examiner. Which begins with this extraordinary statement: " With its most vigorous advocate in memory presiding in the White House and commanding Democratic majorities in Congress, it's difficult to believe that the end of liberalism may be within sight."

In other words, within the lifetimes of the vast majority of living Americans, government as we have known it since the New Deal will become paralyzed, unable to deliver even basic services, let alone the myriad of entitlements that politicians had promised would last forever. Liberalism will owe its undoing to its blind faith that government could forever be the inexhaustible provider of ever more spending, more benefits and more prosperity, with nary a day of reckoning."
American Thinker Blog: The end of liberalism?

You know what else pisses me off? That Gore lost after 8 great years of Clinton. He didn't lose, but it was close enough that the GOP could steal the 2000 election with a split US Supreme Court ruling to give the election to Bush. Gore should have gotten one term to prove himself. He was part of 8 great years so he should have gotten a chance to lead.



Liberals will control one or both houses for decades to come. And we should hold the White House at least until 2012. I say 2016 at least, but that we shall see.

“Gore won” is the equivalent of a political Stanford-Binet IQ Test. And this is a one-question test, so the stakes are high. The bad news, you failed. The good news? Your level of knowledge has attained its nadir, so you have no place to go, but up.
Here is the correct response, you may use it to prepare for your next exam:
In the first full study of Florida's ballots since the election ended, The Miami Herald and USA Today reported George W. Bush would have widened his 537-vote victory to a 1,665-vote margin if the recount ordered by the Florida Supreme Court would have been allowed to continue, using standards that would have allowed even faintly dimpled "undervotes" -- ballots the voter has noticeably indented but had not punched all the way through -- to be counted.
Online NewsHour: Media Recount: Bush Won

The lead of an April 4, 2001 USA Today story headlined, “Newspapers' recount shows Bush prevailed,” by reporter Dennis Cauchon:
George W. Bush would have won a hand count of Florida's disputed ballots if the standard advocated by Al Gore had been used, the first full study of the ballots reveals. Bush would have won by 1,665 votes -- more than triple his official 537-vote margin -- if every dimple, hanging chad and mark on the ballots had been counted as votes, a USA TODAY/Miami Herald/Knight Ridder study shows. The study is the first comprehensive review of the 61,195 "undervote" ballots that were at the center of Florida's disputed presidential election....


New York Times headline clearly stated, "Study of Disputed Florida Ballots Finds Justices Did Not Cast the Deciding Vote,
Study of Disputed Florida Ballots Finds Justices Did Not Cast the Deciding Vote - NYTimes.com

An exhaustive review of last year's disputed presidential election in Florida indicates that George W. Bush still would have defeated Al Gore even if Mr. Gore had been granted the limited vote recounts he was seeking. Several U.S. news organizations consider the study the final word on the 2000 presidential election.
The study found that even if Al Gore had won the right to limited recounts in Florida, he still would have lost to Mr. Bush by at least 200 votes. The official results gave Mr. Bush a 537 vote victory.
Newspaper Study Says Bush Won Florida Recount | News | English

 

[EriktheRed]

History always repeats itself. 2010 for democrats is going to look worse than 1994 when Republicans gained control over the house--this with a fairly popular President in Bill Clinton & really no economic troubles.

Now you take that scenario & look at today--& 2010 is going to look worse than Custers last stand for democrats. This is the 1st time in my life when I have seen Americans so pissed off at government. I am also talking about people that I know personally who voted for Barack Obama. They're mad as hell.

Well, there's one way history hasn't repeated itself. Republicans didn't succeed in derailing a healthcare reform bill and thus failed to hand the Prez a major political defeat that they could use to tout how ineffective he and his party are.

The Republicans also appeared a lot more reasonable in their opposition to the Prez back then than they have so far this year.

Overall, I'd say your reading of the tea leaves is a bit premature.

 

[oreo]

History always repeats itself. 2010 for democrats is going to look worse than 1994 when Republicans gained control over the house--this with a fairly popular President in Bill Clinton & really no economic troubles.

Now you take that scenario & look at today--& 2010 is going to look worse than Custers last stand for democrats. This is the 1st time in my life when I have seen Americans so pissed off at government. I am also talking about people that I know personally who voted for Barack Obama. They're mad as hell.

Well, there's one way history hasn't repeated itself. Republicans didn't succeed in derailing a healthcare reform bill and thus failed to hand the Prez a major political defeat that they could use to tout how ineffective he and his party are.

The Republicans also appeared a lot more reasonable in their opposition to the Prez back then than they have so far this year.

Overall, I'd say your reading of the tea leaves is a bit premature.

We really don't know what's in this Senate version of the health care bill--but when you have 61% of the American population AGAINST it--it spells big problems for the incumbants--especially those that voted for it--& against the wishes of their constituents.

The more we hear about millions & billions that were added to this bill for special political favors--etc.--the more it will turn Americans stomachs. And hey that's all over the news including the once--past liberal main stream media. Like ABC--Charlie Gibson talks about it every single night in his 1/2 hour news programs.

The #1 thing Americans really want right now is a job--We have a trillion dollar stimulus bill that wasn't & now we have stimulus bill jr. At times what the government does is very slow to seep into the brains of Americans--but when they scared to death or have lost their jobs--they look right at government. More stimulus from the government means that they have just "extended" unemployment checks AGAIN--LOL.

The Tsumani that is going to roll through the house & senate November 2010--is not going to leave a democrat standing. They are going to get washed out to the unemployment line themselves.

 

[EriktheRed]

We really don't know what's in this Senate version of the health care bill--but when you have 61% of the American population AGAINST it--it spells big problems for the incumbants--especially those that voted for it--& against the wishes of their constituents.

The more we hear about millions & billions that were added to this bill for special political favors--etc.--the more it will turn Americans stomachs. And hey that's all over the news including the once--past liberal main stream media. Like ABC--Charlie Gibson talks about it every single night in his 1/2 hour news programs.

The #1 thing Americans really want right now is a job--We have a trillion dollar stimulus bill that wasn't & now we have stimulus bill jr. At times what the government does is very slow to seep into the brains of Americans--but when they scared to death or have lost their jobs--they look right at government. More stimulus from the government means that they have just "extended" unemployment checks AGAIN--LOL.

The Tsumani that is going to roll through the house & senate November 2010--is not going to leave a democrat standing. They are going to get washed out to the unemployment line themselves.

How much thought did you really give to the above before you posted it?

 

[nodoginnafight]

We really don't know what's in this Senate version of the health care bill--but when you have 61% of the American population AGAINST it--it spells big problems for the incumbants--especially those that voted for it--& against the wishes of their constituents.

Speak for yourself - don't include ME in the WE that knows very little about the bill. Also - inflating the opposition to 61% speaks poorly of your credibility. It seems that the healthcare bill isn't the only thing you are woefully ill-informed about.

 

[jschuck12001]

"From the very beginning of the Obama presidency Democrats have been acting like kids in a candy store - doubling down on the TARP bailout and the $787 billion stimulus/slush fund. The most recent 1.1 trillion spending bill and now the health care bill which, with a little accounting sleight-of-hand, comes in at under one trillion, the Democrats are spending like there are no more tomorrows.

What will be the results of all of this out of control spending?

The consequences will be many but one of the most surprising results could be the end of liberalism. At least that's the opinion of this editorial in the Washington Examiner. Which begins with this extraordinary statement: " With its most vigorous advocate in memory presiding in the White House and commanding Democratic majorities in Congress, it's difficult to believe that the end of liberalism may be within sight."

In other words, within the lifetimes of the vast majority of living Americans, government as we have known it since the New Deal will become paralyzed, unable to deliver even basic services, let alone the myriad of entitlements that politicians had promised would last forever. Liberalism will owe its undoing to its blind faith that government could forever be the inexhaustible provider of ever more spending, more benefits and more prosperity, with nary a day of reckoning."
American Thinker Blog: The end of liberalism?

That would be great, we already know Conservatives are dying out so if we could just get rid of the Liberals then we would have nothing left but people with brains, they are called Independents and they cant stand either side.

 

[geauxtohell]

I heard Texas has some weird agreement with the US that if it wants to secede and we won't let it, then it becomes 5 different states. That would mean it would get 10 senators. Can you imagine that? So Austin would be a state, Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, etc. Texas is huge so it could be 4 or 5 seperate states.

What?

snopes.com: Texas Dividing into Five States

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[☭proletarian☭]

A State's not allowed to become multiple states and any agreement between the State of Texas and the Fed is null if it leaves the Union- and the Republic of Texas ceased to exist upon entering the Union, rendering any of its agreements null.

I don't see how this 'agreement' can exist, no matter what's written on paper.