Fundamental differences between Democrats and Republicans

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    Fundamental differences between Democrats and Republicans

    I see the references about events and am amazed at how Democrats and Republicans see the same thing in such remarkably different ways. Two subjects especially even though there are so many.

    Ones I could talk about but won’t. Gay rights. Republican politicians will send money back to the conservative gay group “the Log Cabin” who sent them money. Even though the gay population is probably between 3 and 5% of the entire population, Republicans see them having equal rights as a much larger threat than the 50% divorce rate among heterosexuals, and the “swingers clubs in every state and the “swingers” conventions.

    I also won’t talk about the Republican suspicion of scientists motives or that the majority of Republicans believe that a man could build a boat out of wood, pitch and nails and fill that boat with “million of pairs” of animals and ride out a “world wide” flood while taking care of these millions of animals.

    Instead, let’s talk about Freddie/Fannie and the housing crisis. The way I understand what happened that brought about the collapse of the housing industry was that Freddie/Fannie used to provide mortgages. But, to procure one of these mortgages, you had to have a job and prove you could pay back the loan. During that time, Freddie/Fannie provided more than 70% of all mortgage loans in the US. After the deregulation of Wall Street, the mortgage business was moved to Wall Street so now they provided more than 70% of all mortgages. Wall Street passed out those mortgages with virtually no restrictions. The then took those loans, bundled them together and sold them overseas as “securities”. When those with the mortgages defaulted, that left foreign investors holding the bag.

    Now, I have heard that it was Barney Frank behind the entire collapse, but I have never heard it explained how that could be. A gay Jew had that much power, even when the Republicans held both houses, the presidency and even had a majority in the Supreme Court? Republicans return money from gays, yet it was all Barney Frank?

    Second:

    I’ve heard how it’s so much better now in Iraq. They even show us the “purple finger” to prove it.

    Everything I’ve heard is much different. When I point out that the new Iraqi constitution makes “Islam” the “national religion” and says “all legislation is based on Islam” (Article 2), Republicans shrug. They say, “Well, Islam is their religion, so what?”, besides, it’s none of our business. Worse, I’ve heard Republicans say Islam is dangerous and violent.

    So thousands of our youngsters died in Iraq, plus, we killed tens of thousands of their people, and we are financing their rebuilding, but we don’t get a say in their new constitution? I don’t understand why not? Even worse, the Christian population was estimated to be almost 1 and a half million. Christians in Iraq have been chased out of the country; women raped or forced to convert to Islam. The population is now estimated to be between 3 to 4 hundred thousand. This has been reported in every major newspaper and news service in the world. Yet, American Republicans don’t seem to care.

    And even worse, women now have to live under Islamic law. Walk around outside covered. They can’t leave home without a male escort. That means no jobs and no healthcare. Even though the US insisted that one third of cabinet posts go to women, which only stand if there are candidates available. Well, if they can’t go outside, can’t be uncovered, how can they run for office? Obviously, they can’t. Remember, they are now under Islamic law. The US insisted this be in their constitution. So the US could have had a greater impact, but didn’t.

    Both women’s groups and Christians say things were better under Saddam. American Republicans say they are wrong. So who is right? American Republicans or those that live over there?

    I would be interested in some Republicans writing down on what it is that Democrats have wrong about these issues.

    What I expect is, “You stupid f*cktard, you don’t know what you are talking about”. It seems that name calling has become the “response”. No one ever “explains” their position. I still don't know why Republicans feel a hardcore Islamic government is ok in Iraq or why the housing collapse is because of Barney Frank.
     
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    I confess that I didn't bother to read your tome, however, I am going to assume that you don't recognize that the truth lies somewhere outside the view of both parties.
     
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    Blah blah.. left-wing blog continually repeated talking point... blah blah bash religion.. blah blah... blah misrepresent... blah blah flat out lie.. blah blah blah... blah religion bash again... blah blah

    The oh so typical rdean post
     
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    Looks like you got what you expected from these two.
     
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    Yes, yes, yes, Libruls founded the country, fought WWII, liberated Eastern Europe from the Soviets, and freed Iraq from Saddam and want to save us from the Glacier Eating CO2 Spaghetti Monster

    We Owe you Liburls a debt we can never repay, like, say we were bankrupt.
     
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    And his douchey colleague Chris Dodd.
     
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    The housing bust is much like the '28 market crash... there was nothing backing up the prices.
     
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    The positions and the facts have been stated so many times by the Conservatives or 'opposition' on this board. And yet you and rdean repeat the same blather and the same slogans and the same misinformation time after time after time.. and such posts will continue to be called out as the bullshit rants that they are
     
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    I don't know Dave

    Seems like he asked a couple of easy questions. Just as easy to respond as it is to say "blah...blah...blah"
     
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    Then you get to more blah blah blah
    But let us instead concentrate on what you "won't" (sic) talk about.
    Let us say I was to start a thread about differences and begin with
    I won't talk about failed democratic party socialist programs which.....
    And then went on for some time about those failed socialist programs.

    What would your response be?
    After all to be fair we have several examples of socialism blatantly failing and none of socialism truly succeeding. Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid and Welfare are all socialist programs inflicted on our nation by the Democrats.
    See how hard it is for you to avoid your knee jerk liberal reaction and claim
    but, but, but, Boooooooooosh
     

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