The Embrace of Civil War: LABOR LEADER CALLS FOR WAR ON REPUBLICANS

[yidnar]

Mere months after the Vice President of the United States equated his political enemies to the murders responsible for 9/11, labor leader Jimmy Hoffa has upped the rhetoric and hate by declaring "The war on workers. And you see it everywhere, it is the Tea Party...President Obama, this is your army. We are ready to march. Let's take these son of bitches out and give America back to an America where we belong". Jimmy Hoffa At Obama Event On GOP: "Let's Take These Son Of Bitches Out" | RealClearPolitics

If Palin's targets on contested congressional races was a call to violence what the hell do you call these statements?

The riots and civil unrest we witnessed in Europe was a prelude to what is coming in America.

you are right when you say massive civil unrest is brewing !!but there is one thing that unions and libbs are forgetting !! ...........the 2nd amendment!!...........LISTEN UP LIBBS !!...........WE ARE NOT EUROPE!!

 

[Mr. Shaman]

About time.

Republicans have been at war against the middle class, teachers, blacks, gays, Hispanics, the Unemployed and like cannibals, they went after their most loyal followers, the elderly. I'm thinking the GOP leadership realized they don't need human people anymore after discovering corporations are ALSO people.

So you support and are in agreement with these statements? Well go arm yourself and get to work. Unbelievable.

We are dealing with fanatical nuts that have no grip on reality.

Only Republicans would consider WORKING PEOPLE fanatical nuts.​

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Yes, all of the Democrat congressmen that told reporters after the closed door meeting that Biden equated the GOP to terrorists were lying. They were lying when they said that Rep. Mike Doyle said the same. Sources: Joe Biden likened tea partiers to terrorists - Jonathan Allen and John Bresnahan - POLITICO.com

Politico is standing firmly behind the story.

Are you this delusional and partisan that you believe Biden didn't say those things? Really?

There's a huge difference between Biden rightly calling someone a terrorist and him equating "his political enemies to the murders responsible for 9/11".

Some of A = B is not the same as ALL of A = B.

Logic 101 bub.

So you think it is appropriate for a sitting Vice President to label a PEACEFUL, LAWFUL political movement that elected 58 people to Congress as terrorists?

You mean, like, their disciples, in......

...the anti-abortion wing?????

 

[Stephanie]

Hummm..


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXkBJh9RJy8]OBAMA AND A CIVILIAN ARMY - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Well, it's just downright chilling, isn't it?

The SEIU has already showed up and committed acts of violence against Tea Party members. Could you imagine the type vitriol and hate emanate from TP activists and not receive national attention?

This is the kind of stuff the left has accused the Tea Party of! The hypocrisy is on display for everyone to see.

Poor babies.

 

[rdean]

Yes, all of the Democrat congressmen that told reporters after the closed door meeting that Biden equated the GOP to terrorists were lying. They were lying when they said that Rep. Mike Doyle said the same. Sources: Joe Biden likened tea partiers to terrorists - Jonathan Allen and John Bresnahan - POLITICO.com

Politico is standing firmly behind the story.

Are you this delusional and partisan that you believe Biden didn't say those things? Really?

There's a huge difference between Biden rightly calling someone a terrorist and him equating "his political enemies to the murders responsible for 9/11".

Some of A = B is not the same as ALL of A = B.

Logic 101 bub.

So you think it is appropriate for a sitting Vice President to label a PEACEFUL, LAWFUL political movement that elected 58 people to Congress as terrorists?

 

[California Girl]

"This message is hidden because Mr. Shaman is on your ignore list."

Me too. Now, if we could just get others to stop quoting his fucking gibberish, this forum would be fine.

 

[Trajan]

Article in todays newspaper claimed that Union donations to Democrats at the Federal level were down 40%.......

just sayin................

and they wonder why the term thug comes to mind? .....you've hit upon one facet, motivation, unions are on their back foot, the prevailing winds are against them, example from the NY Times;

snip-

Postal Service Is Nearing Default as Losses Mount
By STEVEN GREENHOUSE
Published: September 4, 2011

“Our situation is extremely serious,” the postmaster general, Patrick R. Donahoe, said in an interview. “If Congress doesn’t act, we will default.”

In recent weeks, Mr. Donahoe has been pushing a series of painful cost-cutting measures to erase the agency’s deficit, which will reach $9.2 billion this fiscal year. They include eliminating Saturday mail delivery, closing up to 3,700 postal locations and laying off 120,000 workers — nearly one-fifth of the agency’s work force — despite a no-layoffs clause in the unions’ contracts…

At the same time, decades of contractual promises made to unionized workers, including no-layoff clauses, are increasing the post office’s costs. Labor represents 80 percent of the agency’s expenses, compared with 53 percent at United Parcel Service and 32 percent at FedEx, its two biggest private competitors. Postal workers also receive more generous health benefits than most other federal employees.


more at-
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/05/b...uggles-to-stay-solvent-and-relevant.html?_r=1



That example above, is something anyone can understand........now add to that the Wisconsin, where the birthplace of Public sector unions [have] just suffered a bellwether defeat, Dues are no longer collected by the state, the union must now basically count on voluntarily submittals that have shown almost exactly that %, a drop off, approx. 30-35% when left to the device of the actual member to send it in, they don't by over a third.

Any new stimulus will be a boon for unions how have the Feds behind them ala the Davis-Bacon act any work via fed $$ must be set at the union wages levels, the Unions are threatened by the reps backed by the TP and indies to cut off the flow of money, its really that simple, despite the NLRBs best efforts and counter productive machinations ala the Boeing issue, lack of congressional sppt for Card Check, and the economic malaise where in cushy union benefits are not seen as helpful and in fact are counter productive in many cases, they don't have a sympathetic ear except amongst their own, they have never been threatened with this kind of push back before, so, they are going to the mattresses......

This is not helpful, this rhetoric is not appealing to moderates Indies etc...on the back of Maxine Waters and the other 2 congresscritters ala "they" want to se folks haning from trees etc....they will lose that sppt. and any violence that occurs? The blood is on their hands.

Union donations to federal candidates at the beginning of this year were down about 40% compared with the same period in 2009, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. Last month, a dozen trade unions said they would boycott next year's Democratic National Convention in Charlotte, N.C., to express frustration about the economy and to protest the event's location in a right-to-work state.
Obama has fences to mend with labor | Detroit Free Press | freep.com

Oops....... I think Obama has some explaining to do.............

holy moley thats right, their convention is in NC....they tried to gin up sppt in that state and wound up making another boo boo...amateurs.

 

[Trajan]

There's a huge difference between Biden rightly calling someone a terrorist and him equating "his political enemies to the murders responsible for 9/11".

Some of A = B is not the same as ALL of A = B.

Logic 101 bub.

So you think it is appropriate for a sitting Vice President to label a PEACEFUL, LAWFUL political movement that elected 58 people to Congress as terrorists?

what does your sign have to do with this?

 

[Stephanie]

Did anyone notice if the OBAMA asked them to TONE down the "fight a war rhetoric against the PEOPLE HE REPRESENTS" who are NOT UNION MEMBERS..?

Of did he tell them they, Were acting Stupidly?

NO HE DIDN'T. Because HE believes what they are saying too.

You all better hope there isn't violence out of all this. First it's Democrat Representatives calling for sending people in the Tea Party to hell, Now this shit..
It will BE BLOOD on your hands who sit back and think what they are saying is NOTHING.

 

[rdean]

If the GOP and Tea Party act like terrorists, then yes, calling them terrorists is appropriate. It's far more appropriate than comparing the Democrats to the Third Reich!

How have the GOP and TEA party supporters "acted like terrorists"?

Terrorism is not simply about using violence to get what you want, as many in this thread incorrectly believe. It can be the use of fear or intimidation as well, and that's what the GOP did in December and the TPers did recently.

In December, the GOP said they would pass nothing, nothing at all, until they got their extension of tax rates for the upper incomes. This meant no unemployment money and possible employee lay offs. How do you think those employees and unemployed felt? They felt terrified! Their means for supporting their families was under attack. Obama and the Democrats were quoted multiple times saying they extended the rates for upper incomes because they couldn't allow that much damage to be done to the middle and lower classes and the unemployed. That's terrorism.

Recently, the Tea Party said they would not vote in favour to raise the debt ceiling without severe cuts to spending. Not raising the ceiling would have resulted in default which would have made the recent financial crisis look like picnic. The TP threatened ruining the economy and the country in order to get what they wanted. That's terrorism.

Again, Biden was right. "Google" is just trying to be overly dramatic.

Holding millions of Americans hostage is a terrorist act. Reported by American Christians. Many of those held hostage were Republicans. The sad fact is many of these people have no jobs due to Republican economic policies of helping companies move millions of American jobs overseas for campaign contributions. And still the Republican base denies the FACTS. It must be a "white" thing. What else could it be?

Unemployment benefits: not until Bush tax cuts pass, Senate GOP says - CSMonitor.com

 

[Stephanie]

How have the GOP and TEA party supporters "acted like terrorists"?

Terrorism is not simply about using violence to get what you want, as many in this thread incorrectly believe. It can be the use of fear or intimidation as well, and that's what the GOP did in December and the TPers did recently.

In December, the GOP said they would pass nothing, nothing at all, until they got their extension of tax rates for the upper incomes. This meant no unemployment money and possible employee lay offs. How do you think those employees and unemployed felt? They felt terrified! Their means for supporting their families was under attack. Obama and the Democrats were quoted multiple times saying they extended the rates for upper incomes because they couldn't allow that much damage to be done to the middle and lower classes and the unemployed. That's terrorism.

Recently, the Tea Party said they would not vote in favour to raise the debt ceiling without severe cuts to spending. Not raising the ceiling would have resulted in default which would have made the recent financial crisis look like picnic. The TP threatened ruining the economy and the country in order to get what they wanted. That's terrorism.

Again, Biden was right. "Google" is just trying to be overly dramatic.

Holding millions of Americans hostage is a terrorist act. Reported by American Christians. Many of those held hostage were Republicans. The sad fact is many of these people have no jobs due to Republican economic policies of helping companies move millions of American jobs overseas for campaign contributions. And still the Republican base denies the FACTS. It must be a "white" thing. What else could it be?

Unemployment benefits: not until Bush tax cuts pass, Senate GOP says - CSMonitor.com

You really are a mess...

 

[rdean]

So you think it is appropriate for a sitting Vice President to label a PEACEFUL, LAWFUL political movement that elected 58 people to Congress as terrorists?

what does your sign have to do with this?

The Republican leadership, after holding millions of unemployed Americans hostage in exchange for a payout, accuse a "sitting president" of being a terrorist. That's all. Not much.

 

[boedicca]

Newsflash: politicians use whatever leverage they have in the legislative process.

How shocking.

 

[rdean]

Terrorism is not simply about using violence to get what you want, as many in this thread incorrectly believe. It can be the use of fear or intimidation as well, and that's what the GOP did in December and the TPers did recently.

In December, the GOP said they would pass nothing, nothing at all, until they got their extension of tax rates for the upper incomes. This meant no unemployment money and possible employee lay offs. How do you think those employees and unemployed felt? They felt terrified! Their means for supporting their families was under attack. Obama and the Democrats were quoted multiple times saying they extended the rates for upper incomes because they couldn't allow that much damage to be done to the middle and lower classes and the unemployed. That's terrorism.

Recently, the Tea Party said they would not vote in favour to raise the debt ceiling without severe cuts to spending. Not raising the ceiling would have resulted in default which would have made the recent financial crisis look like picnic. The TP threatened ruining the economy and the country in order to get what they wanted. That's terrorism.

Again, Biden was right. "Google" is just trying to be overly dramatic.

Holding millions of Americans hostage is a terrorist act. Reported by American Christians. Many of those held hostage were Republicans. The sad fact is many of these people have no jobs due to Republican economic policies of helping companies move millions of American jobs overseas for campaign contributions. And still the Republican base denies the FACTS. It must be a "white" thing. What else could it be?

Unemployment benefits: not until Bush tax cuts pass, Senate GOP says - CSMonitor.com

You really are a mess...

And yet, there is nothing here you can deny. I'm a mess for telling the truth. But your not a mess for ignoring it. Hilarious.

 

[rdean]

Newsflash: politicians use whatever leverage they have in the legislative process.

How shocking.

Like holding millions of Americans hostage to get a few extra bucks for billionaires. I'm guessing you approve?

 

[boedicca]

Newsflash: politicians use whatever leverage they have in the legislative process.

How shocking.

Like holding millions of Americans hostage to get a few extra bucks for billionaires. I'm guessing you approve?

85% of the Bush tax cuts benefit the Non-Rich, you sad little moron.

 

[Stephanie]

Newsflash: politicians use whatever leverage they have in the legislative process.

How shocking.

Like holding millions of Americans hostage to get a few extra bucks for billionaires. I'm guessing you approve?

you are just stupid.

 

[rdean]

Newsflash: politicians use whatever leverage they have in the legislative process.

How shocking.

Like holding millions of Americans hostage to get a few extra bucks for billionaires. I'm guessing you approve?

85% of the Bush tax cuts benefit the Non-Rich, you sad little moron.

That's a bullshit lie and you know it.

 

[California Girl]

Like holding millions of Americans hostage to get a few extra bucks for billionaires. I'm guessing you approve?

85% of the Bush tax cuts benefit the Non-Rich, you sad little moron.

That's a bullshit lie and you know it.

Coming from Mr 6%, this is deliciously ironic.