The economy is recovering, the economy is recovering, the economy is recovering.

[Mikeoxenormous]

Once again, if the 0% interest rates are no longer available,

dear, gold nuts said there would be huge inflation. There was none!! They look very very stupid. 0% interest rates will disappear 25 basis points at a time perhaps over years and years so no one will notice. In the mean time we have the healthiest economy in the world having grow at 2.3% for years and years so there is little cause to imagine any serious changes will occur.

How can there be no inflation when the national debt was doubled in 6 3/4 years of Obummer's take over of this country? Because the FED, says so? Did you know that you can keep your doctor if you like your doctor? You will save $2,500 a year in premiums with Obummercare? The unemployment rate is 5.1% but at 7% the Fed said that the economy would be good enough to raise interest rates? You are as stupid as any other liberal voter who fell for Hope and Change.

 

[pinqy]

not the U-6 which shows those out of work(not looking) and those underemployed.

U6 is dropping very sharply and steadily as the economy recovers so there is not much to be concerned with. Sorry to burst your bubble.

I know this is going to be hard for you to understand. Could you show something that can confirm your opinion that the U-6 is dropping, or are we supposed to just believe you , like you believe Obama was going to save everyone $2,500 on Obummercare.

It's not really an opinion if a figure is going up or down.

The U-6 has been dropping:

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

How can there be no inflation when the national debt was doubled in 6 3/4 years of Obummer's take over of this country? .

Well, inflation occurs when there is too much money chasing too few goods, i,e, when the Fed circulates more money for the same GDP. Thus, if the Fed dropped say $1 billion into the economy tomorrow prices would go up $1 billion dollars.

National debt is totally unrelated to inflation. National debt grows when the Federal Govt spends more than it taxes.

Sorry.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

. Could you show something that can confirm your opinion that the U-6 is dropping

you brought up U6 in support of your idea about an impending depression and now you are admitting you don't know that its been dropping very steadily??

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

. Could you show something that can confirm your opinion that the U-6 is dropping

you brought up U6 in support of your idea about an impending depression and now you are admitting you don't know that its been dropping very steadily??

if it is dropping steadily please show your REAL PROOF that it is. Not some bogus chart that anyone could draw.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

. Could you show something that can confirm your opinion that the U-6 is dropping

you brought up U6 in support of your idea about an impending depression and now you are admitting you don't know that its been dropping very steadily??

if it is dropping steadily please show your REAL PROOF that it is. Not some bogus chart that anyone could draw.

ever heard of google???? That way you won't be able to doubt it!!

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

U6 Unemployment Rate | Portal Seven

 

[pinqy]

. Could you show something that can confirm your opinion that the U-6 is dropping

you brought up U6 in support of your idea about an impending depression and now you are admitting you don't know that its been dropping very steadily??

if it is dropping steadily please show your REAL PROOF that it is. Not some bogus chart that anyone could draw.

I did. The chart I posted is from the Fed Reserve Bank of St. Louis and directly uses BLS data.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

. Could you show something that can confirm your opinion that the U-6 is dropping

you brought up U6 in support of your idea about an impending depression and now you are admitting you don't know that its been dropping very steadily??

if it is dropping steadily please show your REAL PROOF that it is. Not some bogus chart that anyone could draw.

I did. The chart I posted is from the Fed Reserve Bank of St. Louis and directly uses BLS data.

Isnt the BLS an arm of the Obama administration, that says that unemployment is 5.1%? Why does the U-6 reflect a downward trend but is 5 points higher than the u-3? Because lickspittles like you have no idea who the real enemies of America are. I still don't believe what anything this administration says. It might be true, but I truly doubt that it is really coming down. Sorta like, everyone will save $2,500 a year with Obummercare.

 

[pinqy]

. Could you show something that can confirm your opinion that the U-6 is dropping

you brought up U6 in support of your idea about an impending depression and now you are admitting you don't know that its been dropping very steadily??

if it is dropping steadily please show your REAL PROOF that it is. Not some bogus chart that anyone could draw.

I did. The chart I posted is from the Fed Reserve Bank of St. Louis and directly uses BLS data.

Isnt the BLS an arm of the Obama administration, that says that unemployment is 5.1%?

Not an arm of the administration...it's an independent statistical agency that falls under the Dept of Labor for admin but not operational purposes. No one has ever shown political influence on BLS data.

BLS has the unemployment rate for September at 5.1% +/- 0.2. Gallup has it at 5.9% +/- 0.7 So no significant difference. Is Gallup an arm of Obama too?

Why does the U-6 reflect a downward trend but is 5 points higher than the u-3?

Because they measure different things and the U-6 has more people, including many employed, in the numerator.

But please....show your data for the unemployment rate and give your source and methodology.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

And again if it wasn't for the ZIRP policy, and people not BORROWING money at 0%, the stock market would be around 5,000 and Obama would of been run out on a rail. .

dear, the real economy is growing at 2.5% which is about the fastest in world so the idea that companies would fall in value buy 2/3 because people cant buy anymore without zirp is pure stupid. Besides, if rates go up they will go up very very slowly for years so gold will stay down and the stock market will stay up for years to come.

Now do you understand now.

Third-quarter GDP lands with thud at 1.5% growth

Third-quarter GDP lands with thud at 1.5% growth

Only in your minds eye is the "real economy is growing at 2.5%". Same with the BLS not being part of the administration, like the IRS isn't. When you have liberals in charge they will change the formula's when ever it suits them to not look bad. Problem is, TRUTH always shows its ugly face and proves once again, the lies of Obummer and how sorry liberals really are.

 

[pinqy]

And again if it wasn't for the ZIRP policy, and people not BORROWING money at 0%, the stock market would be around 5,000 and Obama would of been run out on a rail. .

dear, the real economy is growing at 2.5% which is about the fastest in world so the idea that companies would fall in value buy 2/3 because people cant buy anymore without zirp is pure stupid. Besides, if rates go up they will go up very very slowly for years so gold will stay down and the stock market will stay up for years to come.

Now do you understand now.

Third-quarter GDP lands with thud at 1.5% growth

Third-quarter GDP lands with thud at 1.5% growth

Only in your minds eye is the "real economy is growing at 2.5%". Same with the BLS not being part of the administration, like the IRS isn't. .

The IRS is.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Third-quarter GDP lands with thud at 1.5% growth+.

so when a quarter comes in low you are happy to use govt statistics?
What do your sources tell you really GDP is and what are your sources?

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Third-quarter GDP lands with thud at 1.5% growth+.

so when a quarter comes in low you are happy to use govt statistics?
What do your sources tell you really GDP is and what are your sources?

I much prefer the TRUTH not lies when it comes out of the government. Seems that you are okay with govt statistics when it shows your feckless admin in a positive light, but you don't like them when it shows liberalism as it does, FAILURE. See I can use your own argument against you, because that is what Rules for Radicals is all about. Funny how you said before that the economy is recovering because of its 2.5% growth, then you are slapped down by REALIZM, when the economy shows it sucks.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Funny how you said before that the economy is recovering because of its 2.5% growth, then you are slapped down by REALIZM, when the economy shows it sucks.

both sides use govt figures and both sides agree they are accurate even when the numbers support the other side. GDP for 2015 will come in at 2-2.5%. Next.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Funny how you said before that the economy is recovering because of its 2.5% growth, then you are slapped down by REALIZM, when the economy shows it sucks.

dear, both sides use govt figures and both sides agree they are accurate even when the numbers support the other side. GDP for 2015 will come in at 2-2.5%. Next.

for 4th time: What do your "sources" tell you really GDP is and what are your sources?
do you feel bad that we had to teach you U6 has dropped like a rock to 10%

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Funny how you said before that the economy is recovering because of its 2.5% growth, then you are slapped down by REALIZM, when the economy shows it sucks.

dear, both sides use govt figures and both sides agree they are accurate even when the numbers support the other side. GDP for 2015 will come in at 2-2.5%. Next.

for 4th time: What do your "sources" tell you really GDP is and what are your sources?
do you feel bad that we had to teach you U6 has dropped like a rock to 10%

http://dailycaller.com/2013/04/30/changes-in-gdp-measurement-create-growth-out-of-thin-air/

The change comes after more than five years of economic stagnation that, despite frequent claims of a strengthening recovery, have seen high unemployment and extremely slight growth in the size of the economy.

Just like with public education, when LIBERALISM, FAILS, then the liberals go and change the formula to make failure look like success. Funny how that works, but REALITY always catches up, and smacks you liberals down. Even with the change, last 1/4 was dismal, why? Because liberals ruin everything they touch, look at Detroit, California, and any other city that they RULE.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

frequent claims of a strengthening recovery, have seen high unemployment and extremely slight growth in the size of the economy.

frequent claims?? No real frequent claims which explains why the Fed has kept interest rates at 0% until this day!!

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Because liberals ruin everything they touch, look at Detroit, California, and any other city that they RULE.

well that much is certainly true. Liberals are very stupid and anti science. They look at East/ West Germany or China's capitalist miracle and want to switch to socialism.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

frequent claims of a strengthening recovery, have seen high unemployment and extremely slight growth in the size of the economy.

frequent claims?? No real frequent claims which explains why the Fed has kept interest rates at 0% until this day!!

Fed ties interest rates to 6.5% unemployment

The Federal Reserve on Wednesday agreed to keep a key short-term rate near zero until the 7.7% unemployment rate is 6.5% or lower.

The short-term rate will also stay unchanged at 0.25%, the Fed said, until the current 2.2% inflation pace hits 2.5%. Tying the one rate it controls to unemployment and inflation targets is unprecedented, economists said.

Dipshits like you and other goosestepping, koolaid drinking, low information, mindnumbed, useful idiots, forget what has said before by YOUR president and his FED lickspittle lapdog, but Conservatives don't forget. Back in 2012, Janet Yellow claimed that the economy would be recovered and RATE increases would come when the U-3 would reach 6.5% or lower. Would you please enlighten US what the U-3 is today? Why aren't interest rates rising? Because Obamanomics(Liberalism) will FAIL and the stock market will crash, because there is NO economic recovery.

They look at East/ West Germany or China's capitalist miracle and want to switch to socialism.

Is China Cooking the Books on Economic Expansion?

Is China Cooking the Books on Economic Expansion?
Analysts aren't terribly confident in the Chinese government's economic growth data.

Just like with your Obummernomics admin cooking the books, the cronie capitalism of China is in just as bad shape as this countries. But instead of drinking that liberal Koolaid, try to enlighten yourself with REAL facts, and how LIBERALISM is all about FAILURE. But then you will realize that your whole life has been a FAILURE also.