The downfall of Bush

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    Seems most people truly do not learn from history.

    Here we have the war on terror, an escalating nuclear crisis with North Korea and Iran, more attacks on westerners in Saudi Arabia, Abu Ghraib and Gitmo prisoner abuse, and deepening domestic issues and we still have administrations that think keeping things secret and hidden from the american people is the best policy.

    What hasn't been learned over the last 100 years is that with all the political scheming and gaming that goes on in election years is that when you try to keep secrets or downplay, misquote, misspeak, and otherwise try to deflect the truth the only thing you really do is cause more distrust in the people.

    If the current administration continues to try to keep quiet or close the doors to the public they will not survive this election.
     
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    DK I agree with some of what you are saying. I've always felt it best that the administration tell what it can, cause it's all going to come out anyways. Reagan survived and overcame Iran Contra problem just because of that.

    At the same time, it IS an election year. By the very nature of that, things are being blown out of proportion, fogging what could be very serious problems or successes. It seems that whenever they try to get something 'out there' it is twisted, which is the nature of our electoral system-it's adversarial.

    I wouldn't trade the system for anything else I know of, but it's not the most effecient in a time of crisis. I think Bush wants to win the election, but he's willing to go down, to do what he thinks is right about the war. Just my take.
     
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    :bs:

    (sigh)...where to begin?

    Strongest growing economy in a decade? Unemployment rates dropping? A 'safer' world than 4 years ago? Pay Raises for Government employees? What's not to like?

    :D

    This country has it right - a Bush and a Dick...just like God intended.

    :p:
     
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    Yes, but never underestimate how uninformed and stupid people can be, that's how Billiary got the White House.
     
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    I agree. Those that care have to go and work this at the grassroots level. I have been.:D

    Benefits: GW has better chance of reelection; comp dinner and rally tickets :cool: ; nice class of guys to date :p:
     
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    I hope you aren't insulting DK by this comment; for whatever our political differences, I believe him to be far from stupid; I'd wager he's not only intelligent, but generally a good man.
     
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    Yes he is, though his better half is better. :p: Just kidding DK, not KL.
     
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    Preach on DK, Bush has most likely lost this upcoming election.

    Even old conservative texans i've been talking to lately are for his ouster. They know that he lied to the people one to many times. The reasons for invading Iraq have turned to dust. The admins best source for WMDs was an Iraqi-exile/arch-criminal working for the Iranian government.

    Bush is over. His reign is finished.
     
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    Jus don't have a loaded gun or rope with you on Nov 3rd. I fear for your safety after Bush wins handily.
     
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    And these Texan old timers are going to vote for Kerry?? You guys gotta realize that there are only 2 viable options here. The sources that you refer to may have differences with Bush but they have MANY more with Kerry and will not vote FOR him. This is of no help to Kerry.
     

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