the downfall of america

manu1959

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This will definitely make you think.......sent to me by a friend i don't have the original link sorry

We all know Dick Lamm as the former Governor of Colorado. In that context his thoughts are particularly poignant. Last week there was an immigration-overpopulation conference in Washington, DC, filled to capacity by many of American's finest minds and leaders. A brilliant college professor named Victor Hansen Davis talked about his latest book, "Mexifornia," explaining how immigration - both legal and illegal - was destroying the entire state of California. He said it would march across the country until it destroyed all vestiges of The American Dream.


Moments later, former Colorado Governor Richard D. Lamm stood up and gave a stunning speech on how to destroy America. The audience sat spellbound as he described eight methods for the destruction of the United States. He said, "If you believe that America is too smug, too self-satisfied, too rich, then let's destroy America. It is not that hard to do. No nation in history has survived the ravages of time. Arnold Toynbee observed that all great civilizations rise and fall and that 'An autopsy of history would show that all great nations commit suicide.'"

"Here is how they do it," Lamm said:

First to destroy America, "Turn America into a bilingual or multi-lingual and bicultural country. History shows that no nation can survive the tension, conflict, and antagonism of two or more competing languages and cultures. It is a blessing for an individual to be bilingual; however, it is a curse for a society to be bilingual.

"The historical scholar Seymour Lipset put it this way: 'The histories of bilingual and bi-cultural societies that do not assimilate are histories of turmoil, tension, and tragedy.' Canada, Belgium, Malaysia, Lebanon all face crises of national existence in which minorities press for autonomy, if not independence. Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria suppressed an ethnic rebellion. France faces d difficulties with Basques, Bretons, and Corsicans."

Lamm went on:



Second, to destroy America, "Invent 'multiculturalism' and encourage immigrants to maintain their culture. I would make it an article of belief that all cultures are equal. That there are no cultural differences. I would make it an article of faith that the Black and Hispanic dropout rates are due to prejudice and discrimination by the majority. Every other explanation is out of bounds.

Third, "We could make the United States an 'Hispanic Quebec' without much effort. The key is to celebrate diversity rather than unity. As Benjamin Schwarz said in the Atlantic Monthly recently: 'The apparent success of our own multiethnic and multicultural experiment might have been achieved not by tolerance but by hegemony. Without the dominance that once dictated ethnocentrically and what it meant to be an American, we are left with only tolerance and pluralism to hold us together.'" Lamm said, "I would encourage all immigrants to keep their own language and culture. I would replace the melting pot metaphor with the salad bowl metaphor. It is important to ensure that we have various cultural subgroups living in America reinforcing their differences rather than as Americans, emphasizing their similarities."

"Fourth, I would make our fastest growing demographic group the least educated. I would add a second underclass, unassimilated, undereducated, and antagonistic to our population. I would have this second underclass have a 50% dropout rate from high school."

"My fifth point for destroying America would be to get big foundations and business to give these efforts lots of money. I would invest in ethnic identity, and I would establish the cult of 'Victim logy.' I would get all minorities to think their lack of success was the fault of the majority. I would start a grievance industry blaming all minority failure on the majority population."

"My sixth plan for America's downfall would include dual citizenship and promote divided loyalties. I would celebrate diversity over unity. I would stress differences rather than similarities. Diverse people worldwide are mostly engaged in hating each other - that is, when they are not killing each other. A diverse, peaceful, or stable society is against most historical precedent. People undervalue the unity it takes to keep a nation together. Look at the ancient Greeks. The Greeks believed that they belonged to the same race; they possessed a common language and literature; and they worshipped the same gods. All Greece took part in the Olympic games. A common enemy Persia threatened their liberty. Yet all these bonds were not strong enough to over come two factors: local patriotism and geographical conditions that nurtured political divisions. Greece fell. "E. Pluribus Unum" -- From many, one. In that historical reality, if we put the emphasis on the 'pluribus' instead of the 'unum,' we can balkanize America as surely as Kosovo."

"Next to last, I would place all subjects off limits ~ make it taboo to talk about anything against the cult of 'diversity.' I would find a word similar to 'heretic' in the 16th century - that stopped discussion and paralyzed thinking. Words like 'racist' or 'xenophobe' halt discussion and debate."
"Having made America a bilingual/bicultural country, having established multi-culturism, having the large foundations fund the doctrine of 'Victimology,' I would next make it impossible to enforce our immigration laws. I would develop a mantra: That because immigration has been good for America, it must always be good. I would make every individual immigrant symmetric and ignore the cumulative impact of millions of them."
In the last minute of his speech, Governor Lamm wiped his brow. Profound silence followed. Finally he said,

"Lastly, I would censor Victor Hanson Davis's book Mexifornia. His book is dangerous. It exposes the plan to destroy America. If you feel America deserves to be destroyed, don't read that book."

There was no applause . A chilling fear quietly rose like an ominous cloud above every attendee at the conference. Every American in that room knew that everything Lamm enumerated was proceeding methodically, quietly, darkly, yet pervasively across the United States today. Every discussion is being suppressed. Over 100 languages are ripping the foundation of our educational system and national cohesiveness. Barbaric cultures that practice female genital mutilation are growing as we celebrate 'diversity.'

American jobs are vanishing into the Third World as corporations create a Third World in America - take note of California and other states - to date, ten million illegal aliens and growing fast. It is reminiscent of George Orwell's book "1984." In that story, three slogans are engraved in the Ministry of Truth building: "War is peace," "Freedom is slavery," and "Ignorance is strength."

Governor Lamm, walked back to his seat. It dawned on everyone at the conference that our nation and the future of this great democracy is deeply in trouble and worsening fast. If we don't get this immigration monster stopped within three years, it will rage like a California wildfire and destroy everything in its path, especially The American Dream.

HAPPY HOLIDAY REPLACES MERRY CHRISTMAS?

Postscript:

If you believe in advancing the cause of multiculturism and diversity, send more money to your University - they've made promoting it to our children an industry
 
Lamm is a good man and he's right. VDH is too neocon on foreign policy, but he's also right about immigration. Immigration is destroying America because we're getting walloped with people who cannot and will not assimilate. Yes, it's partly racial. The people who founded, built and made up 90 percent of the population from the 1600s to the 1960s were white. They are a particular people who built a particular nation. It's not a place or a "culture" that makes a nation, it's a people. Blacks and Hispanics make different kinds of culture. That creates divisions. A healthy society has to have a rhythm. It has to have a common purpose. Its people must share a heritage, a language, tastes and goals. There can be some diversity, but not too much. Too much, and things start to splinter apart. Like what's happening now.
 
manu1959 said:
This will definitely make you think.......sent to me by a friend i don't have the original link sorry

We all know Dick Lamm as the former Governor of Colorado. In that context his thoughts are particularly poignant. Last week there was an immigration-overpopulation conference in Washington, DC, filled to capacity by many of American's finest minds and leaders. A brilliant college professor named Victor Hansen Davis talked about his latest book, "Mexifornia," explaining how immigration - both legal and illegal - was destroying the entire state of California. He said it would march across the country until it destroyed all vestiges of The American Dream.


Moments later, former Colorado Governor Richard D. Lamm stood up and gave a stunning speech on how to destroy America. The audience sat spellbound as he described eight methods for the destruction of the United States. He said, "If you believe that America is too smug, too self-satisfied, too rich, then let's destroy America. It is not that hard to do. No nation in history has survived the ravages of time. Arnold Toynbee observed that all great civilizations rise and fall and that 'An autopsy of history would show that all great nations commit suicide.'"

"Here is how they do it," Lamm said:

First to destroy America, "Turn America into a bilingual or multi-lingual and bicultural country. History shows that no nation can survive the tension, conflict, and antagonism of two or more competing languages and cultures. It is a blessing for an individual to be bilingual; however, it is a curse for a society to be bilingual.

"The historical scholar Seymour Lipset put it this way: 'The histories of bilingual and bi-cultural societies that do not assimilate are histories of turmoil, tension, and tragedy.' Canada, Belgium, Malaysia, Lebanon all face crises of national existence in which minorities press for autonomy, if not independence. Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria suppressed an ethnic rebellion. France faces d difficulties with Basques, Bretons, and Corsicans."

Lamm went on:



Second, to destroy America, "Invent 'multiculturalism' and encourage immigrants to maintain their culture. I would make it an article of belief that all cultures are equal. That there are no cultural differences. I would make it an article of faith that the Black and Hispanic dropout rates are due to prejudice and discrimination by the majority. Every other explanation is out of bounds.

Third, "We could make the United States an 'Hispanic Quebec' without much effort. The key is to celebrate diversity rather than unity. As Benjamin Schwarz said in the Atlantic Monthly recently: 'The apparent success of our own multiethnic and multicultural experiment might have been achieved not by tolerance but by hegemony. Without the dominance that once dictated ethnocentrically and what it meant to be an American, we are left with only tolerance and pluralism to hold us together.'" Lamm said, "I would encourage all immigrants to keep their own language and culture. I would replace the melting pot metaphor with the salad bowl metaphor. It is important to ensure that we have various cultural subgroups living in America reinforcing their differences rather than as Americans, emphasizing their similarities."

"Fourth, I would make our fastest growing demographic group the least educated. I would add a second underclass, unassimilated, undereducated, and antagonistic to our population. I would have this second underclass have a 50% dropout rate from high school."

"My fifth point for destroying America would be to get big foundations and business to give these efforts lots of money. I would invest in ethnic identity, and I would establish the cult of 'Victim logy.' I would get all minorities to think their lack of success was the fault of the majority. I would start a grievance industry blaming all minority failure on the majority population."

"My sixth plan for America's downfall would include dual citizenship and promote divided loyalties. I would celebrate diversity over unity. I would stress differences rather than similarities. Diverse people worldwide are mostly engaged in hating each other - that is, when they are not killing each other. A diverse, peaceful, or stable society is against most historical precedent. People undervalue the unity it takes to keep a nation together. Look at the ancient Greeks. The Greeks believed that they belonged to the same race; they possessed a common language and literature; and they worshipped the same gods. All Greece took part in the Olympic games. A common enemy Persia threatened their liberty. Yet all these bonds were not strong enough to over come two factors: local patriotism and geographical conditions that nurtured political divisions. Greece fell. "E. Pluribus Unum" -- From many, one. In that historical reality, if we put the emphasis on the 'pluribus' instead of the 'unum,' we can balkanize America as surely as Kosovo."

"Next to last, I would place all subjects off limits ~ make it taboo to talk about anything against the cult of 'diversity.' I would find a word similar to 'heretic' in the 16th century - that stopped discussion and paralyzed thinking. Words like 'racist' or 'xenophobe' halt discussion and debate."
"Having made America a bilingual/bicultural country, having established multi-culturism, having the large foundations fund the doctrine of 'Victimology,' I would next make it impossible to enforce our immigration laws. I would develop a mantra: That because immigration has been good for America, it must always be good. I would make every individual immigrant symmetric and ignore the cumulative impact of millions of them."
In the last minute of his speech, Governor Lamm wiped his brow. Profound silence followed. Finally he said,

"Lastly, I would censor Victor Hanson Davis's book Mexifornia. His book is dangerous. It exposes the plan to destroy America. If you feel America deserves to be destroyed, don't read that book."

There was no applause . A chilling fear quietly rose like an ominous cloud above every attendee at the conference. Every American in that room knew that everything Lamm enumerated was proceeding methodically, quietly, darkly, yet pervasively across the United States today. Every discussion is being suppressed. Over 100 languages are ripping the foundation of our educational system and national cohesiveness. Barbaric cultures that practice female genital mutilation are growing as we celebrate 'diversity.'

American jobs are vanishing into the Third World as corporations create a Third World in America - take note of California and other states - to date, ten million illegal aliens and growing fast. It is reminiscent of George Orwell's book "1984." In that story, three slogans are engraved in the Ministry of Truth building: "War is peace," "Freedom is slavery," and "Ignorance is strength."

Governor Lamm, walked back to his seat. It dawned on everyone at the conference that our nation and the future of this great democracy is deeply in trouble and worsening fast. If we don't get this immigration monster stopped within three years, it will rage like a California wildfire and destroy everything in its path, especially The American Dream.

HAPPY HOLIDAY REPLACES MERRY CHRISTMAS?

Postscript:

If you believe in advancing the cause of multiculturism and diversity, send more money to your University - they've made promoting it to our children an industry

So true! It's good to see people like Lamm attempt to get the message to Washington. But the message is not new - talk radio has been speaking of these threats for years. Michael Savage especially comes to mind. His mantra has always been "Borders, Language, Culture". All three of his books address the issues starting with his 2003 book "The Savage Nation", 2004 "The Enemy Within", and in his latest 2005 "Liberalism Is A Mental Disorder" among other things, he outlines the problems including some solutions to the Mexican invasion:

1. Beef up border security.
2. End the handouts
3. Enforce the laws
4. Kick illegals out of our prisons
5. Launch Operation Alien Airlines - fly them home.
6. The President should demand one barrel of oil from Mexico for every illegal alien coming to our country plus reparations.

Quoting Savage: Defending our borders is the only way to defend the sovereignty of America. This is the seminal issue of our time. Mark my words, either we get control of our border, or America disappears into the melting pot of the New World Order, amalgamated as one more socialist entity answering to the United Nations.
 
I agree to some point

The language of the nation is English, it was English, and it will be English, so help us god.

Secondly i belive that this country is supposed to embrace new cultures, religions, and ideas, to an extent. It can go too far.

For example, the whole idea of freedom of religion is not to suppress the majority religion. Now teachers cant even say god in our school for fear of being sued for not being "culturally sensitive".

A melting pot doesnt mean you have affermative action.
A melting pot doesnt mean you keep your old language and prevent your kids from learning ENglish.
A melting pot doesnt mean you keep to your own society, your own breatheren of your older nation, to not assimilate.

Every time someone assimilates, they bring a small part of their culture, to add flavor. Example: Saint Patricks Day, or Chinese New Year. I belive that is fine.

But when we are supposed to kick out the salvation army from Rite aid, and Longs, in order to embrace other cultures, those are signs taht we dont live in America, we live in a country that oppresses the majority.

I am all for importing products from other countries. Example, Japan for its cars, Italy for its wine.

But when our labor is dependent on 3rd world countries, we are no better than the masters of these slaves that make our hasbro toys, or our nice furniture that we buy from the local Ikea.


I have copied much of what the article said, yes, but we need to see that this country can fall, and it will if we dont take nessessary action.
 
Blashyrkh said:
Yeah, you guys really carry out the ideals of the people that founded your twisted nation.

It got twisted because we didn't follow em------we were busy saving a few countries asses
 
Blashyrkh said:
Yeah, you guys really carry out the ideals of the people that founded your twisted nation.

Go tend to theo van gogh's murderer.
 
Blashyrkh said:
Yeah, you guys really carry out the ideals of the people that founded your twisted nation.

Did it to start putting us down... :asshole: Worry about your own, little small minded itty bittty, country. Well take care of ourselves. I would'nt want to live in a country, where the herion addicts run the goverment, and then the goverment go to the brothels every night for advice.... And all the people there suck off the tit, of everyone else....... God bless America, where we fend for oursleves, (and unfountnetly for all the little assholes in the world). :banana2:
 
Stephanie said:
Did it to start putting us down... :asshole: Worry about your own, little small minded itty bittty, country. Well take care of ourselves. I would'nt want to live in a country, where the herion addicts run the goverment, and then the goverment go to the brothels every night for advice.... And all the people there suck off the tit, of everyone else....... God bless America, where we fend for oursleves, (and unfountnetly for all the little assholes in the world). :banana2:

Well, George W. Bush has used more heroin in his live. I wouldn't want to live in a country where a retarded religious extremist can be elected president without gaining the majority of the votes. You don't help the world, you're fucking it up. Your so proud of your human Rights while your government tortures innocent people in other countries. China is kicking your ass economically. The US is the largest obstacle in the road to world peace.
The US calls itself the leader of the free world, while is has the most undemocratic government system in the Western world. And 40% of the population lives in poverty, while 1% owns virtually everything. The US is the world's most succesful Third World country.

Btw: you should smoke pot. It helps you relax a bit in situations like this, and stops you from pissing yourself off.
 
Blashyrkh said:
Well, George W. Bush has used more heroin in his live. I wouldn't want to live in a country where a retarded religious extremist can be elected president without gaining the majority of the votes. You don't help the world, you're fucking it up. Your so proud of your human Rights while your government tortures innocent people in other countries. China is kicking your ass economically. The US is the largest obstacle in the road to world peace.
The US calls itself the leader of the free world, while is has the most undemocratic government system in the Western world. And 40% of the population lives in poverty, while 1% owns virtually everything. The US is the world's most succesful Third World country.

Btw: you should smoke pot. It helps you relax a bit in situations like this, and stops you from pissing yourself off.

I see thats a problem you frequently run into then. Most europeans get that i hear.

I would say change the channel for ya but its all european over there and therefore communist or socialist news sources. Try doing some research on your stats next time though so that your arent identified as a blithering idiot so quickly.

Oh btw, when the muslims take over your continent, remember just who the roadblock to world peace really is.
 
insein said:
I see thats a problem you frequently run into then. Most europeans get that i hear.

I would say change the channel for ya but its all european over there and therefore communist or socialist news sources. Try doing some research on your stats next time though so that your arent identified as a blithering idiot so quickly.

Oh btw, when the muslims take over your continent, remember just who the roadblock to world peace really is.

Try changing the channel in the US, and stop when you spot the first independent one (there will be none). Your freedom of speech is a laugh and the media are all telling you what your government wants you to hear.
Try coming to Europe for a while and open your mind to the world instead of sitting in your beautiful country and 'saving the world' without knowing anything about it.

Btw: I'd rather see muslims take over the world than the US.
 
Blashyrkh said:
Try changing the channel in the US, and stop when you spot the first independent one (there will be none). Your freedom of speech is a laugh and the media are all telling you what your government wants you to hear.
Try coming to Europe for a while and open your mind to the world instead of sitting in your beautiful country and 'saving the world' without knowing anything about it.

Btw: I'd rather see muslims take over the world than the US.

I'd like to see the Muslims take over your country, and enlist you personally into dhimmitude. After a few years of you sweating it out, I suppose you would welcome the U.S. in much the same way your ancestors welcomes them in WWII. You should consult your elders on this topic.
 
Blashyrkh said:
Try changing the channel in the US, and stop when you spot the first independent one (there will be none). Your freedom of speech is a laugh and the media are all telling you what your government wants you to hear.
Try coming to Europe for a while and open your mind to the world instead of sitting in your beautiful country and 'saving the world' without knowing anything about it.

Btw: I'd rather see muslims take over the world than the US.

Your wish, may be comming sooner, than later. I hope you don't have to eat those words. Funny how we put ourselves out there for another country that was to be taken over before, without ever visiting them. We we're good enought then. But now we're called the tryannts, and intollerable. We will not forget, even though, the rest of the world does. :rolleyes:
 
Skin eaters!

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Blashyrkh said:
Well, George W. Bush has used more heroin in his live. I wouldn't want to live in a country where a retarded religious extremist can be elected president without gaining the majority of the votes. You don't help the world, you're fucking it up. Your so proud of your human Rights while your government tortures innocent people in other countries. China is kicking your ass economically. The US is the largest obstacle in the road to world peace.
The US calls itself the leader of the free world, while is has the most undemocratic government system in the Western world. And 40% of the population lives in poverty, while 1% owns virtually everything. The US is the world's most succesful Third World country.

Btw: you should smoke pot. It helps you relax a bit in situations like this, and stops you from pissing yourself off.

You got any factual evidence to back up any of your claims? From the heroin to the undemocratic system to the LACK OF MAJORITY VOTES( guess 51% ain't a majority) to the torture of innocents. Yeah we torture but they sure as fuck ain't innocent.

Go build some wooden shoes in satellite city asswipe.
 
OCA said:
You got any factual evidence to back up any of your claims? From the heroin to the undemocratic system to the LACK OF MAJORITY VOTES( guess 51% ain't a majority) to the torture of innocents. Yeah we torture but they sure as fuck ain't innocent.

Go build some wooden shoes in satellite city asswipe.


:rotflmao:

Can I have a pair to use as small planters for my patio?
 

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