The Democrat Party and Paternalistic Slavery of Minorities.

[daveman]

Clueless white conservatives.

The Black Community is Black America. Members of Black America are citizens of the United States of America. Also they are citizens of the states, counties, cities and municipalities in which they reside. The Black Community is a concept that goes far beyond the color of one's skin. It is the experience of being Black in the United States.

Black Community/Black America

If that lets you justify living in a white neighborhood, sure.

I live in a black, white and Hispanic neighborhood. Seems to be Baptist, Mormon and Catholic. Mormons are the only whites I can tolerate.

Your not knowing what the black community is is funny.

Did you say something important, racist asshole?

No. Racist assholes are incapable of saying anything important.

Run along now.

On edit: It's funny how all at once black, white and Hispanic neighborhoods are "the black community".

 

[Trajan]

just as a general note-

its always interesting to see folks flounder, in almost every measure that counts the black race in this country is worse off now than they were say in 1975. Almost every single liberal policy enacted to 'help' has also cost them, and some very very dearly.

Add to that, here we have an openly racist member, ala salt jones who doesn't realize,( maybe he does, as I have never heard him say it or a admit it though), that now that the dem. power structure has owned a huge portion of the present black misery and underachievement, yes, his brothers and sisters in the black congressional caucus reside over some and yea,most of the worst pockets of black misery there are, year after year, decade after decade and then, he and his ilk show up and huff and puff that whitey is keeping them down and that its all unfair or the system is rigged against them....

I make 6 figures per year. My parents owned their own business and no one in my family has ever been on welfare. I have never been poor or "down". And provide stats for your 1975 claim.

Blacks are responsible for their our issues, no one else. The bastardization of the black power movement and the "acting white" bullshit played a vastly greater role in black issues than any political party. But keep reading about, while I continue to live, the black community.

what a mish mash of a post. was that an answer? really? If I thought an honest debate could be had with you, I'd dissect your rambling BS, but alas, for all your 6 figures and parent owned biz ., apparently that never helped you out with being a decent human being.


"acting white"......

 

[daveman]

Clueless white conservatives.

The Black Community is Black America. Members of Black America are citizens of the United States of America. Also they are citizens of the states, counties, cities and municipalities in which they reside. The Black Community is a concept that goes far beyond the color of one's skin. It is the experience of being Black in the United States.

Black Community/Black America

If that lets you justify living in a white neighborhood, sure.

Are you saying we do or should have "white neighborhoods"? And, that blacks need to JUSTIFY living in one?

No, you retard.

Jeez, the damn racists don't even bother hiding behind their white hoods any more but YOU are just plain disgusting.

I disgust you?

Good. I'm doing the right thing, then. You see, as a leftist, you want what's bad for America. If there's something you don't like, it must be good for America.

 

[Trajan]

just as a general note-

its always interesting to see folks flounder, in almost every measure that counts the black race in this country is worse off now than they were say in 1975. Almost every single liberal policy enacted to 'help' has also cost them, and some very very dearly.
.

Unemployment rate among blacks? Lower
HS graduation rates and levels of education? higher
Per capita Incomes? higher
Percent of blacks in poverty? Lower.
Percent of blacks in management positions? Higher
Percent of blacks owning a small business? Higher

What are these measures you speak of?

I could go so many ways with with that , its simply incredible.

so lets start here; all of that is so on a simple straight line number basis, so why all the bitching? why is AA still a practice? Quotas? special legal protections, loans etc etc etc ...

I will leave the social aspect out, for now.

 

[Trajan]

You're right, blacks should vote for the Party that insults them as a group. The GOP only has the best interests of blacks in mind with their insults, after all there is nothing racist about calling a race of people lazy leeches with no self responsibility.

The fact that the Democrat party was a segregationist party for the first 3/4 of the 20th century is inarguable. And this party did a fantastic job of segregating blacks away from whites in the 1950's-the 1960's. The method: federal housing and welfare. Nothing - absolutely NOTHING segregated communities like the cell-like federal housing complexes built and paid for by Democrat policies. And sure enough, by the mid-60's blacks were all corralled up and packed in like sardines away from white neighborhoods. This was absolutely by design. The Democrats of these decades got exactly what they wanted - to live in neighborhoods free of blacks and send their children to schools free of blacks.
It is undeniable - it is what happened. It is like trying to argue that the sky is not blue.
It is what it is.

Deny it.

What corralled minorities into segregated neighborhoods was REDLINING, as you well know! And who passed a law, the CRA, against REDLINING, Jimmy Carter. And who do racists hate, Jimmy Carter. And what law is a racist's favorite fall-guy, the CRA. Believe it or not, the GOP racists were blaming Bush's housing market crash on, you guessed it, the CRA.

they redlined Irish Italian Jewish neighborhoods in Manhattan for decades doe doe.....and looking at the housing bubble and a huge part of it, I'd say they were right too, black wop or mick or ****.

 

[Trajan]

Gee, how can these ungrateful people not vote for the Party that calls them lazy leeches???

You must work for the Democrat campaign.
"Never discuss policies or specifics unless you absolutely have to..and when you do - simply attack the messenger".

You're right, blacks should vote for the Party that insults them as a group. The GOP only has the best interests of blacks in mind with their insults, after all there is nothing racist about calling a race of people lazy leeches with no self responsibility.

how does the gop insult them as a group?

 

[Trajan]

More likely they will ignore it.
Unfortunately this thread will likely have a very high read count, but low post count.
It is a difficult subject, especially for liberals to address.
What they have done to the black race is unforgivable, basically bribed them with hand-outs and free housing. And created generations of government dependents carrying little to no self responsibility, a sense of entitlement and free of blame. In other words, an ideal voter class for the Democrat party.

The black race is not entirely without blame, though. They are men, they are quite capable of saying 'No'. The evil committed by the Democrat party is the fact that they intentionally perpetrate the myth that blacks are lesser beings because they are incapable of serving themselves and then reinforce that myth by removing incentive to take care of oneself and one's family.

So what you're saying is that blacks as a group are too stupid to know that they are considered lesser beings? And that as a group they won't care for themselves and their families without incentive?

What a paternalistic, bullshit attitude.

no, I would not say that and thats not exactly what he said, let me clear it up for you genius; you sppt those that provide a pillow for every slight no matter how minimal to be considered racist if mentioned, you have created an atmosphere that allows the race card to trump common sense, just reinforcing an entitlement attitude that makes one particular race feel they are so protected and so 'owed', liberals contributed to paradigms where in it made it more profitable to not marry for instance, and in what has to be the worst paternalistic garbage ever conceived, it became a flogging offense to call out blacks for unacceptable behavior because, whitey 'owed them' and since 'we' owned them as laves, we had to just stfu.

AND, lets not forget it wasn't 'that whitey' you know the slave owner etc. who was providing the money, or having their kids all of a sudden bussed across town either, the libs ladled out the cash and they also shut up any critique of a culture that has gone awry and after a bit, they realized hey, we can grow our political power, we give out money , pat the on the head, create grievance machinery to suit their and our needs and- presto, we have a constituency .....


and of course, as I said earlier, then the black congressional caucus really got going, and when I had this debate last year and I spent an hour collating Congressional districts and cross tabbing them with the black cong. caucus members and relative district crime rates, worth, then and now and posted it here.....and guess what? in 40 years the differences are virtually ZERO. And the gobs of cash spent? what happened?

 

[Unkotare]

If that lets you justify living in a white neighborhood, sure.

I live in a black, white and Hispanic neighborhood. Seems to be Baptist, Mormon and Catholic. Mormons are the only whites I can tolerate.

Your not knowing what the black community is is funny.

Do you tell your white neighbors you hate them because they are white?

Careful, he doesn't like answering uncomfortable questions.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

One of the interesting things about this thread is you will notice the absence of our better liberal posters. They all stayed away from the topic...wisely I guess.

 

[daveman]

If that lets you justify living in a white neighborhood, sure.

I live in a black, white and Hispanic neighborhood. Seems to be Baptist, Mormon and Catholic. Mormons are the only whites I can tolerate.

Your not knowing what the black community is is funny.

Do you tell your white neighbors you hate them because they are white?

And risk getting his pansy ass kicked? No way!

 

[sealybobo]

I have known for a long time that the Democrat Party of the 1960's-70's successfully completed one of the greatest political achievements in American history: Getting black people to vote Democrat.
It should go without saying that this was a truly amazing feat.
And of course to this day minorities still overwhelmingly vote Democrat.
Why?
Recently a black republican wrote a small blog that has found it's way in newspapers columns and think-tank columns, television discussions etc. etc.

Here is a portion of that article:

Once the Civil War ended the struggle for equality began. Most blacks saw the Republican Party as the party of freedom and during Reconstruction this was true. Reconstruction had to end and the Republican Party became a minority party in the south with very few white Republicans. The Democrats or the three “s” party, slavery, secession and segregation, had all the power and wielded it with an iron fist. Virtually enslaving blacks all over again.

Blacks in the south were left alone to fight for themselves, their paternalistic Republican Party left them to build alliances of their own. This failed miserably because the last thing the racist south wanted were free blacks, they wanted slaves, free labor and power. The violence that was released upon the freedmen was unbearable and the freedmen gave up their equality to be considered lesser men. (And such as it was for several decades)

When the Republicans tried to help they we rebuffed by the majority, the Democrats. President Theodore Roosevelt tried to intervene through the infamous peonage trials but could not stop the incidents of involuntary servitude. Therefore, blacks felt abandoned even though all the advances of the black race was a product of the Republican Party from 1860 to 1968 they left the party in droves when the Democrats started offering social programs to take care of “the little man.” Encouraged by the likes of Jesse Jackson more blacks voted Democrat. Because of Democratic social programs more black men left the home in order to let the government send money to take care of his family.
He planted his seed far and wide and when the seed was rejected because the planter would be absent, our precious babies were aborted in the millions, all federally funded by Democratic social engineering.
Republicans kept offering a hand up and Democrats a handout. Handouts being easier they were accepted over a hand up. Even blacks that did not take handouts were glad that they were there so they wouldn't have to be responsible for their brothers and sisters. They voted and still vote to keep government handouts going because it is easier than arguing with those who won’t work or taking care of those who can’t.
This is a syndrome that has affected all of our society and the Democratic Party has solidified its base of those who want government to be responsible instead of being responsible themselves. I admit that I could be wrong about some of my observations but I think they are rational and supported by history. Why do blacks vote Democrat, because there are so few responsible black men! Many blacks have been duped into a paternalistic psychological slavery where to be taken care of by the government is encouraged, freedom of thought is discouraged and to be different from the group is not tolerated. Clarence Thomas, Condoleezza Rice and Michael Steele along with other Black Republicans are repudiated because they stand for responsibility and freedom, they are not on the Paternalistic Psychological Plantation.

Why Do Blacks Vote Democrat?

Aren't both parties to blame here? Can you show me one thing Republicans alone are to blame for?