The Degrowth movement

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This is the phrase coined by Mark Levin in his new book "Plunder and Deceit". The term "Degrowth Movement" describes what the environmentalist movement has become, or perhaps always was about.

For example,, in a recent interview fanatical anticapitalist and climate activist Naomi Klein proclaimed that "Capitalism increasingly is a discredited system because it is seen as a system that venerates greed above all else. There is a benefit to climate discussion to name a system that lots of people already have problems with for other reasons. I don't know why it is important to save capitalism. It is a pretty battered brand. Just focusing on climate is getting us nowhere. Many, many more people recognize the need to change our economy. If climate can be our lens to catalyze this economic transformation that so many people need for other even more pressing reasons then that may be a winning combination. This economic system is failing the vast majority of people. Capitalism is also waging war on the planet's life support system."

Even though these "Progressives" are really "Regressive" in their pursuit to send society back to the days of horse and buggy, they are still referred to as Progressives. In fact, they define their agenda as follows: "Sustainable degrowth is a downscaling of production and consumption that increases human well being and enhances ecological conditions and equity on the planet. It calls for a future where societies live within their ecological means, with open localized economies and resources more equally distributed through new forms of democratic institutions. It is an essential economic strategy to pursue in overdeveloped country like the US, for well being of the planet, of underdeveloped pupulations, and yes, even of the sick, stressed, and overweight consumer populations of overdeveloped countries."

French economist and leading degrowther Serge Latouche asserts that, "We are currently witnessing the steady commercialization of everything in the world. Applied to every domain in this way, capitalism cannot help but destroy the planet much as it destroys society, since the very idea of the market depends on unlimited excess and domination." Serge also abhors economic growth and wealth creation, the very attributes necessary to improve the human condition and societies: "A society based on economic contraction cannot exist under capitalism."

Indeed, on July 18, 2014, scores of extreme groups throughout the world endorsed a proclamation titled "Margarita Declaration on Climate Change" (which means "changing the system not the climate"
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So there you have it. Climate change activists are not so much concerned about the environment as they are embracing Marxism.
 
And you support unregulated capitalism.

And the marxists, you clown, had the worst climates. Go google East Germany.
 
And you support unregulated capitalism.

And the marxists, you clown, had the worst climates. Go google East Germany.

I"m just showing that the war against climate change has now turned to a war on capitalism.

Does this make any sense to you?
 
No, you are simply making an argument that does not exist.

Good people have always realized that the two great scourges of the last two centuries have been unregulated capitalism and communism.
 
And you support unregulated capitalism.

And the marxists, you clown, had the worst climates. Go google East Germany.

And you support big government with tons of regulations that strangle small businesses. Go Google Jake's a lying moron.
 
No, you are simply making an argument that does not exist.

Good people have always realized that the two great scourges of the last two centuries have been unregulated capitalism and communism.

No, I'm quoting leftists who are making the argument that in order to stop climate change, one needs to destroy capitalism

Do you agree with this assertion?
 
No, you are simply making an argument that does not exist.

Good people have always realized that the two great scourges of the last two centuries have been unregulated capitalism and communism.

No, I'm quoting leftists who are making the argument that in order to stop climate change, one needs to destroy capitalism

Do you agree with this assertion?
You misinterpret what is being said.

Capitalism needs to be regulated so that it does not destroy environment.
 
And you support unregulated capitalism.

And the marxists, you clown, had the worst climates. Go google East Germany.

And you support big government with tons of regulations that strangle small businesses. Go Google Jake's a lying moron.

I think this stems from a philosophy that in order to "save the earth" ones needs to destroy capitalism.

I think this is why we see leftists champion fiscal policies that seem insane. They escalate debt, hand cuff small business, and tax the poo out of everyone. They are attempting to take us back to the days of horse and buggy.
 
And you support unregulated capitalism.

And the marxists, you clown, had the worst climates. Go google East Germany.

And you support big government with tons of regulations that strangle small businesses. Go Google Jake's a lying moron.
That you would confused Joe's Bakery with Hershey Chocolate and the comparative damage done by the two, that google with show you are the moron.
 
No, you are simply making an argument that does not exist.

Good people have always realized that the two great scourges of the last two centuries have been unregulated capitalism and communism.

No, I'm quoting leftists who are making the argument that in order to stop climate change, one needs to destroy capitalism

Do you agree with this assertion?
You misinterpret what is being said.

Capitalism needs to be regulated so that it does not destroy environment.

What is being said is that cap and trade, the way it is structured today, does precious little to stop climate change according to scientists.

What needs to be done is not currently economically practicle.
 
And you support unregulated capitalism.

And the marxists, you clown, had the worst climates. Go google East Germany.

And you support big government with tons of regulations that strangle small businesses. Go Google Jake's a lying moron.
That you would confused Joe's Bakery with Hershey Chocolate and the comparative damage done by the two, that google with show you are the moron.

Hitting the bottle early this morning huh? Your comment made absolutely no sense.
 
And you support unregulated capitalism.

And the marxists, you clown, had the worst climates. Go google East Germany.

And you support big government with tons of regulations that strangle small businesses. Go Google Jake's a lying moron.
That you would confused Joe's Bakery with Hershey Chocolate and the comparative damage done by the two, that google with show you are the moron.

Jake, do you agree with the following?

"climate activist Naomi Klein proclaimed that "Capitalism increasingly is a discredited system because it is seen as a system that venerates greed above all else. There is a benefit to climate discussion to name a system that lots of people already have problems with for other reasons. I don't know why it is important to save capitalism. It is a pretty battered brand. Just focusing on climate is getting us nowhere. Many, many more people recognize the need to change our economy. If climate can be our lens to catalyze this economic transformation that so many people need for other even more pressing reasons then that may be a winning combination. This economic system is failing the vast majority of people. Capitalism is also waging war on the planet's life support system."
 
And you support unregulated capitalism.

And the marxists, you clown, had the worst climates. Go google East Germany.

And you support big government with tons of regulations that strangle small businesses. Go Google Jake's a lying moron.
That you would confused Joe's Bakery with Hershey Chocolate and the comparative damage done by the two, that google with show you are the moron.

Hitting the bottle early this morning huh? Your comment made absolutely no sense.
I give a solid argument and you attack personality because you have lost the discussion.
 
And you support unregulated capitalism.

And the marxists, you clown, had the worst climates. Go google East Germany.

And you support big government with tons of regulations that strangle small businesses. Go Google Jake's a lying moron.
That you would confused Joe's Bakery with Hershey Chocolate and the comparative damage done by the two, that google with show you are the moron.

Jake, do you agree with the following?

"climate activist Naomi Klein proclaimed that "Capitalism increasingly is a discredited system because it is seen as a system that venerates greed above all else. There is a benefit to climate discussion to name a system that lots of people already have problems with for other reasons. I don't know why it is important to save capitalism. It is a pretty battered brand. Just focusing on climate is getting us nowhere. Many, many more people recognize the need to change our economy. If climate can be our lens to catalyze this economic transformation that so many people need for other even more pressing reasons then that may be a winning combination. This economic system is failing the vast majority of people. Capitalism is also waging war on the planet's life support system."
So you are for unregulated capitalism is what is obvious.
 
And you support unregulated capitalism.

And the marxists, you clown, had the worst climates. Go google East Germany.

And you support big government with tons of regulations that strangle small businesses. Go Google Jake's a lying moron.
That you would confused Joe's Bakery with Hershey Chocolate and the comparative damage done by the two, that google with show you are the moron.

Hitting the bottle early this morning huh? Your comment made absolutely no sense.
I give a solid argument and you attack personality because you have lost the discussion.


If you think regulations are just for big corporations and don't apply to the smaller ones, then you are beyond ignorant.

FEDS: Regulations Hurt Small Businesses more than Big Business

Washington, DC] A report on how poorly conceived regulations affect economic growth in Wisconsin reveals how small businesses are disproportionately affected by regulations, and another report by the federal government agrees.

"According to the Small Business Administration, regulation adds thousands of dollars in employer cost per worker and regulation is 80% more costly to small employers than large," the 2013 Wisconsin Regulatory Review Report reads.

The Small Business Administration has conducted its own studies on how regulations affect small businesses. In 2010, it released a report, The Impact of Regulatory Costs on Small Firms, that expands on the imbalance between small and large businesses.

"While all citizens and businesses pay some portion of these costs, the distribution of the burden of regulations is quite uneven. The portion of regulatory costs that falls initially on businesses was $8,086 per employee in 2008. Small businesses, defined as firms employing fewer than 20 employees, bear the largest burden of federal regulations. As of 2008, small businesses face an annual regulatory cost of $10,585 per employee, which is 36 percent higher than the regulatory cost facing large firms (defined as firms with 500 or more employees)," the report reads.
 
You understand that a good portion of the WI conclusion of "negative impact" on small business is the minimum wage. Read the entire report.

And said report comes from "The John K. MacIver Institute for Public Policy," which
"is a Wisconsin-based think tank that promotes free markets, individual freedom, personal responsibility and limited government."

It's libertarian, automatically anti-American in scope and concept.
 
You understand that a good portion of the WI conclusion of "negative impact" on small business is the minimum wage. Read the entire report.

And said report comes from "The John K. MacIver Institute for Public Policy," which
"is a Wisconsin-based think tank that promotes free markets, individual freedom, personal responsibility and limited government."

It's libertarian, automatically anti-American in scope and concept.

The federal government (Obama's administration) agrees that regulations hurt small business more than big business.

Not even you can deny that fact, which is why you didn't even try.

So, once again you get your ass handed to you.

You're welcome.
 
That's your ass into which your face is pushed.

The fact is that you and the MacIver Institute are screeching about WI minimum wage law.
 
That's your ass into which your face is pushed.

The fact is that you and the MacIver Institute are screeching about WI minimum wage law.

Dude face it, regulations hurt small businesses more than big businesses, it doesn't matter HOW it hurts them the fact is IT DOES!

Why Over-Regulation Of Small Businesses Actually Hurts Employees The Most - Business Insider

NFIB Testifies on How Regulations Hurt Small Business | NFIB

Look, I'm not expecting a big government liberal moron like yourself to accept the fact that regulations and over-regulations are hurting businesses big and small. I can lead you to knowledge but I can't make you think. I doubt the latter is even possible.
 
You have not even shown that over regulations exist.

We are talking about degrowth and you are on a rant about wanting no regulations.
 

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