The Dangerous Lie That ‘Bush Lied’

[BlindBoo]

You want to play stupid? You can do that on your own, I'm done playing games with you.

OMG, don't say it, I'm not going to have the pleasure of your endless playground insults and arrogant condescension? What you don't want to do is back up your crap. You said he had nuclear weapons, that is completely different than trying to develop nuclear weapons. I agreed with the second point all along, but you kept going back to that he had nuclear weapons. No, he didn't. And no one said he did, but you.

I said they had nuclear weapons? Now you're just lying. It wasn't me who gave the American people the impression that we had to invade Iraq immediately.

Wow, more word games. Do you ever go past the fifth grade? OK, Sparky, you said we were told they had nuclear weapons. I said no, we were told they had a program, but not they had weapons. You came back with a link supporting my point, they had a program.

I look forward to your next round of childish drivel.

You are apparently in full denial mode all the time. The Bush Administration clearly intimated the possibility that Iraq could have already acquired nuclear weapons.

Interview with Vice-President Dick Cheney NBC Meet the Press Transcript for March 16

So now you've gone from the standard W said Saddam had nuclear weapons as the justification to the war to that he "intimated the possibility that Iraq could have already acquired nuclear weapons." You should have stopped when you were behind...



Tell me about your self professed rhetorical genius again...

"He’s had years to get good at it and we know he has been absolutely devoted to trying to acquire nuclear weapons. And we believe he has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons. "

 

[The Rabbi]

OMG, don't say it, I'm not going to have the pleasure of your endless playground insults and arrogant condescension? What you don't want to do is back up your crap. You said he had nuclear weapons, that is completely different than trying to develop nuclear weapons. I agreed with the second point all along, but you kept going back to that he had nuclear weapons. No, he didn't. And no one said he did, but you.

I said they had nuclear weapons? Now you're just lying. It wasn't me who gave the American people the impression that we had to invade Iraq immediately.

Wow, more word games. Do you ever go past the fifth grade? OK, Sparky, you said we were told they had nuclear weapons. I said no, we were told they had a program, but not they had weapons. You came back with a link supporting my point, they had a program.

I look forward to your next round of childish drivel.

You are apparently in full denial mode all the time. The Bush Administration clearly intimated the possibility that Iraq could have already acquired nuclear weapons.

Interview with Vice-President Dick Cheney NBC Meet the Press Transcript for March 16

So now you've gone from the standard W said Saddam had nuclear weapons as the justification to the war to that he "intimated the possibility that Iraq could have already acquired nuclear weapons." You should have stopped when you were behind...



Tell me about your self professed rhetorical genius again...

"He’s had years to get good at it and we know he has been absolutely devoted to trying to acquire nuclear weapons. And we believe he has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons. "

Was the Bil Clinton, Al Gore, Nancy Pelosi, or some other Democrat?

 

[BlindBoo]

Was the Bil Clinton, Al Gore, Nancy Pelosi, or some other Democrat?

Dick.

 

[kaz]

OMG, don't say it, I'm not going to have the pleasure of your endless playground insults and arrogant condescension? What you don't want to do is back up your crap. You said he had nuclear weapons, that is completely different than trying to develop nuclear weapons. I agreed with the second point all along, but you kept going back to that he had nuclear weapons. No, he didn't. And no one said he did, but you.

I said they had nuclear weapons? Now you're just lying. It wasn't me who gave the American people the impression that we had to invade Iraq immediately.

Wow, more word games. Do you ever go past the fifth grade? OK, Sparky, you said we were told they had nuclear weapons. I said no, we were told they had a program, but not they had weapons. You came back with a link supporting my point, they had a program.

I look forward to your next round of childish drivel.

You are apparently in full denial mode all the time. The Bush Administration clearly intimated the possibility that Iraq could have already acquired nuclear weapons.

Interview with Vice-President Dick Cheney NBC Meet the Press Transcript for March 16

So now you've gone from the standard W said Saddam had nuclear weapons as the justification to the war to that he "intimated the possibility that Iraq could have already acquired nuclear weapons." You should have stopped when you were behind...



Tell me about your self professed rhetorical genius again...

"He’s had years to get good at it and we know he has been absolutely devoted to trying to acquire nuclear weapons. And we believe he has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons. "

If you read that interview, over and over again he says that quote with the word "program." Reconstituted nuclear weapons PROGRAM. One time he missed the word program.

Also, the point I refuted was that was THE justification for the war, yet you guys have to dig and dig to get a single quote that sounded like what you wanted. Obviously the point that was the justification is a ... lie ...

 

[danielpalos]

Were the republicans honest about the "hidden Tax" of price inflation on fossil fuels due to risk, increased in those markets through the socialism of our public sector sector intervention through the coercive use of force instead of the Capitalism of our Commerce Clause.

Is it any wonder the right had to practice their outright Communism, in Cuba.

 

[kaz]

Were the republicans honest about the "hidden Tax" of price inflation on fossil fuels due to risk, increased in those markets through the socialism of our public sector sector intervention through the coercive use of force instead of the Capitalism of our Commerce Clause.

Is it any wonder the right had to practice their outright Communism, in Cuba.

You seem like a nice guy, but you're a complete airhead

 

[danielpalos]

well, I do claim to be a mostly nice guy.

Unfortunately for you, you only seem to have fallacy to work with.

 

[kaz]

well, I do claim to be a mostly nice guy.

Unfortunately for you, you only seem to have fallacy to work with.

You don't even know what that means. You also don't know what begging the question is. You just keep repeating 50K feet platitudes about how wonderful government is. That isn't a debate

 

[danielpalos]

Not having a valid rebuttal also means you still don't have a clue or a Cause; why do you even pretend to care? are you stocking up on shillings?

 

[BlindBoo]

I said they had nuclear weapons? Now you're just lying. It wasn't me who gave the American people the impression that we had to invade Iraq immediately.

Wow, more word games. Do you ever go past the fifth grade? OK, Sparky, you said we were told they had nuclear weapons. I said no, we were told they had a program, but not they had weapons. You came back with a link supporting my point, they had a program.

I look forward to your next round of childish drivel.

You are apparently in full denial mode all the time. The Bush Administration clearly intimated the possibility that Iraq could have already acquired nuclear weapons.

Interview with Vice-President Dick Cheney NBC Meet the Press Transcript for March 16

So now you've gone from the standard W said Saddam had nuclear weapons as the justification to the war to that he "intimated the possibility that Iraq could have already acquired nuclear weapons." You should have stopped when you were behind...



Tell me about your self professed rhetorical genius again...

"He’s had years to get good at it and we know he has been absolutely devoted to trying to acquire nuclear weapons. And we believe he has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons. "

If you read that interview, over and over again he says that quote with the word "program." Reconstituted nuclear weapons PROGRAM. One time he missed the word program.

Also, the point I refuted was that was THE justification for the war, yet you guys have to dig and dig to get a single quote that sounded like what you wanted. Obviously the point that was the justification is a ... lie ...

Yeah he got all tongue tied. But the fact of the matter is the Bush administration was spewing propaganda demonizing Iraq and Saddam, using rhetorical tricks and gimmicks to convince the public that Iraq was on the verge of obtaining and giving nuclear, chemical and biological weapons to their surrogates, al Qaeda to attack us with. Using a compliant and in-bed-with media, the job was complete by March of 03.

 

[danielpalos]

We have a Commerce Clause not any form nation destroying to practice nation building, clause--who lied about that?

 

[kaz]

Wow, more word games. Do you ever go past the fifth grade? OK, Sparky, you said we were told they had nuclear weapons. I said no, we were told they had a program, but not they had weapons. You came back with a link supporting my point, they had a program.

I look forward to your next round of childish drivel.

You are apparently in full denial mode all the time. The Bush Administration clearly intimated the possibility that Iraq could have already acquired nuclear weapons.

Interview with Vice-President Dick Cheney NBC Meet the Press Transcript for March 16

So now you've gone from the standard W said Saddam had nuclear weapons as the justification to the war to that he "intimated the possibility that Iraq could have already acquired nuclear weapons." You should have stopped when you were behind...



Tell me about your self professed rhetorical genius again...

"He’s had years to get good at it and we know he has been absolutely devoted to trying to acquire nuclear weapons. And we believe he has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons. "

If you read that interview, over and over again he says that quote with the word "program." Reconstituted nuclear weapons PROGRAM. One time he missed the word program.

Also, the point I refuted was that was THE justification for the war, yet you guys have to dig and dig to get a single quote that sounded like what you wanted. Obviously the point that was the justification is a ... lie ...

Yeah he got all tongue tied. But the fact of the matter is the Bush administration was spewing propaganda demonizing Iraq and Saddam, using rhetorical tricks and gimmicks to convince the public that Iraq was on the verge of obtaining and giving nuclear, chemical and biological weapons to their surrogates, al Qaeda to attack us with. Using a compliant and in-bed-with media, the job was complete by March of 03.

Your letting the Democrats off the hook for doing that same thing shows your indignation to be the faux indignation that it is. What you say is not really an issue to you, just a partisan attack.

Iraq was bad policy. We need to get out of other people's shit. As long as you stick with the partisan schtick, nothing will change

 

[BlindBoo]

You are apparently in full denial mode all the time. The Bush Administration clearly intimated the possibility that Iraq could have already acquired nuclear weapons.

Interview with Vice-President Dick Cheney NBC Meet the Press Transcript for March 16

So now you've gone from the standard W said Saddam had nuclear weapons as the justification to the war to that he "intimated the possibility that Iraq could have already acquired nuclear weapons." You should have stopped when you were behind...



Tell me about your self professed rhetorical genius again...

"He’s had years to get good at it and we know he has been absolutely devoted to trying to acquire nuclear weapons. And we believe he has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons. "

If you read that interview, over and over again he says that quote with the word "program." Reconstituted nuclear weapons PROGRAM. One time he missed the word program.

Also, the point I refuted was that was THE justification for the war, yet you guys have to dig and dig to get a single quote that sounded like what you wanted. Obviously the point that was the justification is a ... lie ...

Yeah he got all tongue tied. But the fact of the matter is the Bush administration was spewing propaganda demonizing Iraq and Saddam, using rhetorical tricks and gimmicks to convince the public that Iraq was on the verge of obtaining and giving nuclear, chemical and biological weapons to their surrogates, al Qaeda to attack us with. Using a compliant and in-bed-with media, the job was complete by March of 03.

Your letting the Democrats off the hook for doing that same thing shows your indignation to be the faux indignation that it is. What you say is not really an issue to you, just a partisan attack.

Iraq was bad policy. We need to get out of other people's shit. As long as you stick with the partisan schtick, nothing will change

Over half the Democrats in Congress voted against giving President Bush the power to decide. The Bush Administration was driving that bus, sure many Democrat war hawks were on the bus too, but there is no doubt that the Bush Administration was driving.

"As the United States finds itself in the aftermath of another crisis in the Middle East, it is worth the risk of opprobrium to ask why there should be hostility toward America in that region. Some insight can be gained by surveying official U.S. conduct in the Middle East since the end of World War II. Acknowledged herein is a fundamental, yet deplorably overlooked, distinction between understanding and excusing. The purpose of this survey is not to pardon acts of violence against innocent people but to understand the reasons that drive people to violent political acts.[2] The stubborn and often self-serving notion that the historical record is irrelevant because political violence is inexcusable ensures that Americans will be caught in crises in the Middle East and elsewhere for many years to come."

http://object.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/pubs/pdf/pa159.pdf

 

[kaz]

So now you've gone from the standard W said Saddam had nuclear weapons as the justification to the war to that he "intimated the possibility that Iraq could have already acquired nuclear weapons." You should have stopped when you were behind...



Tell me about your self professed rhetorical genius again...

"He’s had years to get good at it and we know he has been absolutely devoted to trying to acquire nuclear weapons. And we believe he has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons. "

If you read that interview, over and over again he says that quote with the word "program." Reconstituted nuclear weapons PROGRAM. One time he missed the word program.

Also, the point I refuted was that was THE justification for the war, yet you guys have to dig and dig to get a single quote that sounded like what you wanted. Obviously the point that was the justification is a ... lie ...

Yeah he got all tongue tied. But the fact of the matter is the Bush administration was spewing propaganda demonizing Iraq and Saddam, using rhetorical tricks and gimmicks to convince the public that Iraq was on the verge of obtaining and giving nuclear, chemical and biological weapons to their surrogates, al Qaeda to attack us with. Using a compliant and in-bed-with media, the job was complete by March of 03.

Your letting the Democrats off the hook for doing that same thing shows your indignation to be the faux indignation that it is. What you say is not really an issue to you, just a partisan attack.

Iraq was bad policy. We need to get out of other people's shit. As long as you stick with the partisan schtick, nothing will change

Over half the Democrats in Congress voted against giving President Bush the power to decide. The Bush Administration was driving that bus, sure many Democrat war hawks were on the bus too, but there is no doubt that the Bush Administration was driving.

"As the United States finds itself in the aftermath of another crisis in the Middle East, it is worth the risk of opprobrium to ask why there should be hostility toward America in that region. Some insight can be gained by surveying official U.S. conduct in the Middle East since the end of World War II. Acknowledged herein is a fundamental, yet deplorably overlooked, distinction between understanding and excusing. The purpose of this survey is not to pardon acts of violence against innocent people but to understand the reasons that drive people to violent political acts.[2] The stubborn and often self-serving notion that the historical record is irrelevant because political violence is inexcusable ensures that Americans will be caught in crises in the Middle East and elsewhere for many years to come."

http://object.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/pubs/pdf/pa159.pdf

Your quote totally supports my position that we need a different policy and your finger pointing position not at all

 

[BlindBoo]

"He’s had years to get good at it and we know he has been absolutely devoted to trying to acquire nuclear weapons. And we believe he has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons. "

If you read that interview, over and over again he says that quote with the word "program." Reconstituted nuclear weapons PROGRAM. One time he missed the word program.

Also, the point I refuted was that was THE justification for the war, yet you guys have to dig and dig to get a single quote that sounded like what you wanted. Obviously the point that was the justification is a ... lie ...

Yeah he got all tongue tied. But the fact of the matter is the Bush administration was spewing propaganda demonizing Iraq and Saddam, using rhetorical tricks and gimmicks to convince the public that Iraq was on the verge of obtaining and giving nuclear, chemical and biological weapons to their surrogates, al Qaeda to attack us with. Using a compliant and in-bed-with media, the job was complete by March of 03.

Your letting the Democrats off the hook for doing that same thing shows your indignation to be the faux indignation that it is. What you say is not really an issue to you, just a partisan attack.

Iraq was bad policy. We need to get out of other people's shit. As long as you stick with the partisan schtick, nothing will change

Over half the Democrats in Congress voted against giving President Bush the power to decide. The Bush Administration was driving that bus, sure many Democrat war hawks were on the bus too, but there is no doubt that the Bush Administration was driving.

"As the United States finds itself in the aftermath of another crisis in the Middle East, it is worth the risk of opprobrium to ask why there should be hostility toward America in that region. Some insight can be gained by surveying official U.S. conduct in the Middle East since the end of World War II. Acknowledged herein is a fundamental, yet deplorably overlooked, distinction between understanding and excusing. The purpose of this survey is not to pardon acts of violence against innocent people but to understand the reasons that drive people to violent political acts.[2] The stubborn and often self-serving notion that the historical record is irrelevant because political violence is inexcusable ensures that Americans will be caught in crises in the Middle East and elsewhere for many years to come."

http://object.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/pubs/pdf/pa159.pdf

Your quote totally supports my position that we need a different policy and your finger pointing position not at all

The Bush Administration was caught in many lies about Iraq. That is not a dangerous fact.

 

[kaz]

If you read that interview, over and over again he says that quote with the word "program." Reconstituted nuclear weapons PROGRAM. One time he missed the word program.

Also, the point I refuted was that was THE justification for the war, yet you guys have to dig and dig to get a single quote that sounded like what you wanted. Obviously the point that was the justification is a ... lie ...

Yeah he got all tongue tied. But the fact of the matter is the Bush administration was spewing propaganda demonizing Iraq and Saddam, using rhetorical tricks and gimmicks to convince the public that Iraq was on the verge of obtaining and giving nuclear, chemical and biological weapons to their surrogates, al Qaeda to attack us with. Using a compliant and in-bed-with media, the job was complete by March of 03.

Your letting the Democrats off the hook for doing that same thing shows your indignation to be the faux indignation that it is. What you say is not really an issue to you, just a partisan attack.

Iraq was bad policy. We need to get out of other people's shit. As long as you stick with the partisan schtick, nothing will change

Over half the Democrats in Congress voted against giving President Bush the power to decide. The Bush Administration was driving that bus, sure many Democrat war hawks were on the bus too, but there is no doubt that the Bush Administration was driving.

"As the United States finds itself in the aftermath of another crisis in the Middle East, it is worth the risk of opprobrium to ask why there should be hostility toward America in that region. Some insight can be gained by surveying official U.S. conduct in the Middle East since the end of World War II. Acknowledged herein is a fundamental, yet deplorably overlooked, distinction between understanding and excusing. The purpose of this survey is not to pardon acts of violence against innocent people but to understand the reasons that drive people to violent political acts.[2] The stubborn and often self-serving notion that the historical record is irrelevant because political violence is inexcusable ensures that Americans will be caught in crises in the Middle East and elsewhere for many years to come."

http://object.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/pubs/pdf/pa159.pdf

Your quote totally supports my position that we need a different policy and your finger pointing position not at all

The Bush Administration was caught in many lies about Iraq. That is not a dangerous fact.

Point of non disagreement. So did the Democrats. I am advocating a better policy, you are advocating pointing fingers. You gave a great quote you didn't comprehend. WMDs were irrelevant to your quote. Both parties are jumping in everyone's shit. All you care is about finger pointing. You are focusing on a distinction without a difference

 

[NotfooledbyW]

If you read that interview, over and over again he says that quote with the word "program." Reconstituted nuclear weapons PROGRAM. One time he missed the word program.

Also, the point I refuted was that was THE justification for the war, yet you guys have to dig and dig to get a single quote that sounded like what you wanted. Obviously the point that was the justification is a ... lie ...

Bush did not try to justify war based upon a nuclear program. He had no nuclear program proof as of March 10. 2003. He had no proof of any proscribed WMD on a March 10th 2003. But suddenly after March 19 he got ahold of some intelligence perhaps foreign that "left no doubt" that Iraq was concealing "the most lethal weapons ever devised" from UN inspectors at that time. Mr. Bush was supposed to share such doubtless intelligence wit the inspectors so the could verify if it were true. But Bush waged war based on that instead of sharing it with inspectors.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Point of non disagreement. So did the Democrats

What lie by Democrats that compares to the lie by Bush on March 17, 2003 when he claimed he had intelligence that left no doubt that Iraq was concealing the most lethal weapons ever devised from the post-1441 UN inspectors. Bush was not lying about WMD prior to UN Res,1441. So neither did Dems lie before inspectors went in or after. But Bush certainly did. Lie after the inspectors went back in.

 

[dustythedog]

I can"t believe the Bush Lied Bullshit! You democrats are just plain stupid! Want to talk about lies, how about " if you like your Dr. you can keep him. How about the incompetent State Dept. under Clinton. All you have to do is watch Obama, every time his lips move he's lying! And don"t give me this bullshit that I'm a racist because I hate the Son of a Bitch His white half is just as stupid as his black half. I've had to cut the hours of my employees to less than 30 thanks to Obama Care. If I don"t I get fired In the case of minimum wage folks that's about 80 bucks a week. or half their rent, or their car payment. Six people in my restaurant were eligible for Obama Care, Only one signed up! The others said fuck it the already get their pay cut and they don't have the money. I've never met a democrat with a brain.And while I'm thinking of it marriage is between a man and a woman and butt fucking must really hurt. and please instead of saying Merry Christmas say Happy Birthday Jesus its more appropriate for the occasion.
Dusty the dog

 

[NotfooledbyW]

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I can"t believe the Bush Lied Bullshit!

You can't believe what you won't investigate.

. ...the lie by Bush on March 17, 2003 when he claimed he had intelligence that left no doubt that Iraq was concealing the most lethal weapons ever devised from the post-1441 UN inspectors.

Bush should have passed the late breaking intel to the UN inspectors if he actually had it. So what did he have.