The Contract From America

[Foxfyre]

Both sides are going to try and spin this new Contract the way they see fit so i recommend everyone just read it and decide for themselves. The Socialists/Democrats will spin it as being "Stupid" & "Evil" while the GOP spins it as being God's Gospel. Don't listen to either one. Just read it yourself and then decide for yourself. I have and i support it. Thanks for the great post Foxfyre.

It isn't stupid and evil but it is rhetorical and their usual talking points. Can't republicans come up with anything that even looks like it was created for and in this century?

Same old talking point bull and an attempt to copy the Contract with America points which weren't even ever completed.

CWA and CFA are alike in that they are both publicity stunts. More power to Rs in their endeavor tho.

Well CPAC has never purported to be a GOP group though several conservative GOP groups do support it. They ARE a group committed to modern American conservative principles. Here's the list of this year's event sponsors which does not include the National Republican Party. A pretty ecletic group actually.

(And you would be wrong about the Contract with American never being completed. It WAS completed in the first 100 days just as it promised to be. They did not promise to pass term limits, but did promise to bring that to a vote which they did. It narrowly lost. Everything else was accomplished.)

CPAC 2010 Cosponsors

The 2010 Exhibit Hall is currently sold out.

The American Conservative Union

60 Plus Association

Accuracy in Media

Alliance Defense Fund

American Center for Law and Justice

American Civil Rights Union

American Council for Immigration Reform

Americans for Prosperity

American Future Fund

American Petroleum Institute

American Principles Project

Americans for Tax Reform

The American TFP

Americans United for Life

AMAC - The Association of Mature American Citizens

Base Connect

Campaign for Liberty

Catholic Families for America

Catholics for Moral Immigration Policy

Citizens in Charge Foundation

Citizens United

Clare Boothe Luce Policy Institute

Clear Glass Productions

College Republican National Committee

Competitive Enterprise Institute

Concerned Women for America

Congress of Racial Equality

Council For America

David All Group

David Horowitz Freedom Center

Eagle Forum

Eberle Associates, Inc.

Fabrizio, McLaughlin & Associates

FairTax.org

Focus on the Family Action

FreedomWorks

Freedom Alliance

Freedom's Defense Fund

GoAmericaProject.org

GOProud

The Heritage Foundation

HSP Direct

Human Events

Indian American Republican Council

Institute For Liberty

Intermarkets

Intercollegiate Studies Institute

John M. Ashbrook Center for Public Affairs

Judicial Watch

JunkScience.com

Keep America Safe

Kletschka Publishing

The Leadership Institute

Legacy List Marketing

Let Freedom Ring

LibertyCentral.org

The Liberty Ship

Manhattan Institute

Media Research Center

National Organization for Marriage

National Tax Limitation Committee

National Taxpayers Union

National Rifle Association

National Right to Work

NewsMax.com

New York State Conservative Party

Oath Keepers

Poker Players Alliance

Policy Issues Institute

Politics Magazine

Prison Fellowship

RaiseDigital

Response America LLC

Rockanomics.com

Ronald Reagan Presidential Foundation

Smart Girl Politics

Southern Republican Leadership Conference

Susan B. Anthony List

Terra Eclipse

Townhall

United States Justice Foundation

Vernon K. Krieble Foundation

Victory Solutions

The Washington Examiner

Xtreme Media

Young Americans for Freedom

Young America's Foundation

 

[AvgGuyIA]

Contract on America you mean?

That is soooooo 90s. Move on.

 

[Charles Stucker]

I would say the most important ONE is a balanced budget.

I might argue that ridding ourselves of career politicians is even more important.

 

[Claudette]

Yeah, I thought you said this was coming from the Tea Bagger?

Larry

Wow, that's pretty much every GOP talky point.

Moe

CURB LOBBYIST POWER????????????

But, but, I thought the CONSERVATIVE Supreme court opened our political system to corporations making them US Citizens? Isn't that the exact opposite?

How are you going to balance the budget fighting two wars and rebuilding two countries? I would say three, but Republicans don't seem to care about this one so much.

and Curly .........

Yep all three Vapid Stooges present.

Anyways, looks pretty good Foxfyre, although it would be hard to sort out the "most important" 10 without more details on each point.

I would say the most important ONE is a balanced budget.

LOL sounds way good to me also.

Just wonder if they can get er done if they should come to power again. I also wonder if the Reps learned a lesson from the last drubbing???

 

[Foxfyre]

Contract on America you mean?

That is soooooo 90s. Move on.

No, not a Contract on American any more than the Contract With America was. This one is billed a Contract FROM America, Tea Party/Tax Protest Movement inspired and driven and intended to be orders from grass roots America to what they expect of their elected leaders.

So which of the items on the list do you think should not be there? What would you include that isn't there?

 

[LibocalypseNow]

After reading some more,i'm definitely on board. Gotta win some elections first though. Make 2010 count people.

 

[Sarah G]

Contract on America you mean?

That is soooooo 90s. Move on.

No, not a Contract on American any more than the Contract With America was. This one is billed a Contract FROM America, Tea Party/Tax Protest Movement inspired and driven and intended to be orders from grass roots America to what they expect of their elected leaders.

So which of the items on the list do you think should not be there? What would you include that isn't there?

This isn't grassroots America, it's neocon bullshit. Ripoff of the Contract with America..

It's a pretty tall order for the party of no to handle this time around, don't you think?

 

[Foxfyre]

After reading some more,i'm definitely on board. Gotta win some elections first though. Make 2010 count people.

What I'm reading re CPAC, they will whittle down the 22 items to the 10 most critical/important issues for mainstream America and then recruit candidates who will sign on to and campaign on those 10 issues.

And, if they agree on the right 10, and we can repeat the history from 1994, we will gain enough control in Congress so that they can actually be enacted.

That freshman class of 1994 followed through on every principle they promised to do. And CPAC's emphasis is that the class of 2010 will do the same.

 

[Foxfyre]

That is soooooo 90s. Move on.

No, not a Contract on American any more than the Contract With America was. This one is billed a Contract FROM America, Tea Party/Tax Protest Movement inspired and driven and intended to be orders from grass roots America to what they expect of their elected leaders.

So which of the items on the list do you think should not be there? What would you include that isn't there?

This isn't grassroots America, it's neocon bullshit. Ripoff of the Contract with America..

It's a pretty tall order for the party of no to handle this time around, don't you think?

Which of the 22 items do you see as 'neocon bullshit'? And what makes any of the items 'neocon'?

It is absolutely patterned after the Contract with America, however. What problem do you see with that?

 

[rightwinger]

DEMAND A BALANCED BUDGET: Begin the Constitutional amendment process to require a balanced budget with a two-thirds majority needed for any tax hike.

Do we need a 2/3 majority to cut taxes also?
Cutting taxes adds to the deficit...less money coming in

 

[rightwinger]

STOP THE TAX HIKES: Permanently repeal all tax hikes, including those to income, capital gains, and death taxes, currently scheduled to begin in 2011.

Lets return to the tax rates under Ronald Reagan. Standard of living for working Americans has deteriorated since Reagan was president

 

[Foxfyre]

DEMAND A BALANCED BUDGET: Begin the Constitutional amendment process to require a balanced budget with a two-thirds majority needed for any tax hike.

Do we need a 2/3 majority to cut taxes also?
Cutting taxes adds to the deficit...less money coming in

So would you not include a balanced budget among your choice of 10 items to emphasize? Would you agree that a balanced budget isn't necessarily a good thing if Congress is unhindered in any way of making it as big as it wants and raising whatever taxes it wants to cover it?

I don't see a tax cut as being as much of a problem because if in fact less revenues did come in, they would have to reduce the budget accordingly.

 

[rightwinger]

PROTECT THE CONSTITUTION: Require each bill to identify the specific provision of the Constitution that gives Congress the power to do what the bill does.

Pure nonsense, trying to lock in the scope of Government to what it was in 1782.

Flintstones logic

 

[rightwinger]

DEMAND A BALANCED BUDGET: Begin the Constitutional amendment process to require a balanced budget with a two-thirds majority needed for any tax hike.

Do we need a 2/3 majority to cut taxes also?
Cutting taxes adds to the deficit...less money coming in

So would you not include a balanced budget among your choice of 10 items to emphasize? Would you agree that a balanced budget isn't necessarily a good thing if Congress is unhindered in any way of making it as big as it wants and raising whatever taxes it wants to cover it?

I don't see a tax cut as being as much of a problem because if in fact less revenues did come in, they would have to reduce the budget accordingly.

Absolutely..

A balanced budget means you keep your expenditures in line with your income. Cutting taxes means a reduction in your income. It should also be subjected to 2/3 vote

 

[rightwinger]

LET US SAVE: Allow all Americans to opt out of Social Security and Medicare and instead put those same payroll taxes in a personal account they own, control, and can leave to whomever they choose.

Didn't Bush propose this and see the error of his ways when the financila markets crashed? Keep private investment private. Continue to offer voluntary 401Ks and IRAs for individual retirement investment

 

[Foxfyre]

Do we need a 2/3 majority to cut taxes also?
Cutting taxes adds to the deficit...less money coming in

So would you not include a balanced budget among your choice of 10 items to emphasize? Would you agree that a balanced budget isn't necessarily a good thing if Congress is unhindered in any way of making it as big as it wants and raising whatever taxes it wants to cover it?

I don't see a tax cut as being as much of a problem because if in fact less revenues did come in, they would have to reduce the budget accordingly.

Absolutely..

A balanced budget means you keep your expenditures in line with your income. Cutting taxes means a reduction in your income. It should also be subjected to 2/3 vote

Why? If they are required to balance a budget, I can see why they should need a 2/3 vote to raise taxes to prevent them from just growing and growing and growing the budget and we have to pay for it.

I can't see why they would need a 2/3 majority to cut taxes though, because they would still have to balance the budget while we would have more of our own assets to use.

I guess it all comes down to whether you see the people as working for the government or the government working for the people.

 

[MIPS]

PROTECT THE CONSTITUTION: Require each bill to identify the specific provision of the Constitution that gives Congress the power to do what the bill does.

Pure nonsense, trying to lock in the scope of Government to what it was in 1782.

Flintstones logic

So what's the alternative, discard the constitution?

 

[uscitizen]

Too bad conservative talking points are not conservative action points.

 

[Meister]

This really sounds good, and probably in the heart of every conservative in America....maybe some liberals too.
I have to question the heart of the republicans at this point. A lot of those same republicans were part of the problem in the Bush administration when they were running up the debt.
I am counting on a new breed of conservatives running for the Senate and Congress this coming summer and fall. If there is, it could bode well for the first step with your thread.

 

[Meister]

didn't mean to kill this thread. My Bad