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This country refuses to honor and pay teachers the way they deserve to be.
You get what you pay for
You know why don't you? It comes from the days when most teachers were women...just like nurses are traditionally underpaid for what they do.
Interesting, but I would want to look at the data before actually commenting. One question I would have, what exactly is the more they learned in kindergarten?
Let me ask y'all this.
If the gov. shuts down Head Start, what do you think the other options for these children would be?
Let me ask y'all this.
If the gov. shuts down Head Start, what do you think the other options for these children would be?
It's not that preschool isn't a good idea, I think it has a lot to offer children. The problem is mostly parenting. It seems to me that regardless of how good the program is, if the child isn't stimulated at home, self-discipline isn't encouraged, learning isn't recognized, there's going to be a greatly reduced impact of the preschool experience.
Thus sending children from an enriched background to the same preschool as a child from a home where television and video games are the primary caretakers, will gain much more academically and socially. They come prepared for preschool at 3. As they come prepared for kindergarten at 5, etc. Even in 'wealthy' areas you will find the disparity of experiences because some homes are just more stimulating and organized towards the skills of academics.
I've often thought that the best thing preschools and elementary schools could do is have several open classroom evenings where teachers could lay out what skills, materials, sleep needs, etc. for parents. Discipline suggestions for age appropriate could be made. Perhaps the small groups could meet for a presentation from some child rearing expert on topics of concern to all parents.
Let me ask y'all this.
If the gov. shuts down Head Start, what do you think the other options for these children would be?
It's not that preschool isn't a good idea, I think it has a lot to offer children. The problem is mostly parenting. It seems to me that regardless of how good the program is, if the child isn't stimulated at home, self-discipline isn't encouraged, learning isn't recognized, there's going to be a greatly reduced impact of the preschool experience.
Thus sending children from an enriched background to the same preschool as a child from a home where television and video games are the primary caretakers, will gain much more academically and socially. They come prepared for preschool at 3. As they come prepared for kindergarten at 5, etc. Even in 'wealthy' areas you will find the disparity of experiences because some homes are just more stimulating and organized towards the skills of academics.
I've often thought that the best thing preschools and elementary schools could do is have several open classroom evenings where teachers could lay out what skills, materials, sleep needs, etc. for parents. Discipline suggestions for age appropriate could be made. Perhaps the small groups could meet for a presentation from some child rearing expert on topics of concern to all parents.
That's what we do at our school, at least try. Have after school parent/teacher activities, sometimes in the evenings. Other times they invite the parents to come in at lunch, and eat with the teachers and their kids and then have little 'lessons' on ways to help your child read at home, etc.
The class I'm taking right now has a program where the teacher has the parents come in and she does a one on one with her (usually the mom but dad can do it too) and the child, and it's how to 'teach' the parent to help the child with reading comprehension, writing, or even what you can do to help them with homework.
Poverty's greatest enemy is education! The better educated we get these kids, the better chance they have of breaking the cycle!
Sorry if I rambled, my brain is fried from this class lol.
don't teachers get over 180 days off a year?
dont' most teachers work 8am-2:30PM?
don't most teachers become tenured after a few years, at which point they'd basically have to murder their studetns to be fired?
by the time they've worked for 10 years, many teachers are making over 40k a year. add a masters and its probablly closer to 50k.
how many jobs can offer a mon-friday 8-3 schedule with all holidays and summers off, incredible job security plus be extremely rewarding?
i dont' think it's such a terrible thing that teachers don't make great money, especially if you keep high hiring standards. what that means is the person that is going to teach your child is doing it because they have a real passion for it. they're not just doing it for the money.
I never had kindergarten nor headstart.
They did not exist back then.
I did pretty well though. My parents actually took care of me and taught me to read write and have basic math skills before I started school at age 6.
Now we expect others to raise our children for us.
I never had kindergarten nor headstart.
They did not exist back then.
I did pretty well though. My parents actually took care of me and taught me to read write and have basic math skills before I started school at age 6.
Now we expect others to raise our children for us.
That would reiterate my point on success or failure to a very significant degree. Children coming from the type of background that you or I had, would certainly benefit from preschool, in the sense that socialization and some time in new surroundings is nearly always a good thing. However, children bring the pluses and minuses of their homelife/opportunities with them.
Homes that provide good background for self-discipline and encourage curiosity, love of new situations, and good social skills are likely to produce good students.
The best preschools/schools in the world will not help a child that is impoverished in mind or body at home.
I never had kindergarten nor headstart.
They did not exist back then.
I did pretty well though. My parents actually took care of me and taught me to read write and have basic math skills before I started school at age 6.
Now we expect others to raise our children for us.
That would reiterate my point on success or failure to a very significant degree. Children coming from the type of background that you or I had, would certainly benefit from preschool, in the sense that socialization and some time in new surroundings is nearly always a good thing. However, children bring the pluses and minuses of their homelife/opportunities with them.
Homes that provide good background for self-discipline and encourage curiosity, love of new situations, and good social skills are likely to produce good students.
The best preschools/schools in the world will not help a child that is impoverished in mind or body at home.
Very true a troubled child from a troubled family will have trouble in school and cause problems for other children as well. Since we humans so love to share trouble.
In The Case for $320,000 Kindergarten Teachers, David Leonhardt poses the question How much do your kindergarten teacher and classmates affect the rest of your life?
On Tuesday, Mr. Chetty presented the findings not yet peer-reviewed at an academic conference in Cambridge, Mass. Theyre fairly explosive. [ ]
Students who had learned much more in kindergarten were more likely to go to college than students with otherwise similar backgrounds. Students who learned more were also less likely to become single parents. As adults, they were more likely to be saving for retirement. Perhaps most striking, they were earning more.
How Did Kindergarten Affect You? - The Learning Network Blog - NYTimes.com
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