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Hell is eternal torments and death, since he who does not enter heaven with Christ has died the second death, there are no temporary "visits" to either heaven or hell.
My religion doesn't believe in hell...
Your kind rejected Christ, don't waste your time running to the mountains with your white robes on, the Messiah is not coming to save you.
If everyone follows the guide lines and commandments that the Bible puts forth they will have eternal life,
Where does it say that?
Isaiah 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
Psalm 139:8 If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there.
Romans 10:6-7 But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above)
Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.)
Sorry Allie baby... I don't think it's particularly audactious to believe my beliefs have as much validity as yours.
I chuckle to think that the Flying Spaghetti Monster is as plausible as Aliie baba's god. Hey, as long as proof is not required, the sky is the limit.
It's all in what you have faith in... I'm kinda doubting, though, that you really believe the Flying Spaghetti monster exists, so I'm thinking that maybe it's for humor purposes only.
If everyone follows the guide lines and commandments that the Bible puts forth they will have eternal life,
Where does it say that?
Isaiah 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
Psalm 139:8 If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there.
Circular reasoning doesn't change the fact that following the Word of God will give a person eternal life.
Romans 10:6-7 But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above)
Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.)
Right! If you follow the Bible you will have eternal life according to the Bible.
That's circular, right?
If I wrote a posts that said "If you obey these posts by Iriemon you will have eternal reward" that wouldn't make me correct merely because I said so, would it?
Of course not. Which is why Jillie's question is as obnoxious as it is bigoted. You can't "prove" anything to a non-believer using the bible because THEY DON'T BELIEVE THE BIBLE.
It's a wasted effort. Pearls before swine.
Of course not. Which is why Jillie's question is as obnoxious as it is bigoted. You can't "prove" anything to a non-believer using the bible because THEY DON'T BELIEVE THE BIBLE.
It's a wasted effort. Pearls before swine.
My religion doesn't believe in hell...
Your kind rejected Christ, don't waste your time running to the mountains with your white robes on, the Messiah is not coming to save you.
is THAT the kind of thing Jesus would have said? "Your kind"? There ARE such a thing as jewish christians, you know. Getting frustrated, all Martin Luther-style, won't make your faith any more personally relevant than hers.
Of course not. Which is why Jillie's question is as obnoxious as it is bigoted. You can't "prove" anything to a non-believer using the bible because THEY DON'T BELIEVE THE BIBLE.
It's a wasted effort. Pearls before swine.
If the bible was real proof, then the religious beliefs of the person reading it would be irrelevant. Proof would prompt anyone of any religious belief to accept it. The bible falls short in that respect.
Of course not. Which is why Jillie's question is as obnoxious as it is bigoted. You can't "prove" anything to a non-believer using the bible because THEY DON'T BELIEVE THE BIBLE.
It's a wasted effort. Pearls before swine.
God spews an insult.
Praise God!
Where does it say that?
Isaiah 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
Psalm 139:8 If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there.
Circular reasoning doesn't change the fact that following the Word of God will give a person eternal life.
Romans 10:6-7 But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above)
Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.)
Right! If you follow the Bible you will have eternal life according to the Bible.
That's circular, right?
If I wrote a posts that said "If you obey these posts by Iriemon you will have eternal reward" that wouldn't make me correct merely because I said so, would it?
This is circular reasoning, but since you don't understand the Bible why waste time trying to school you? Your heart already does not believe.
Your kind rejected Christ, don't waste your time running to the mountains with your white robes on, the Messiah is not coming to save you.
is THAT the kind of thing Jesus would have said? "Your kind"? There ARE such a thing as jewish christians, you know. Getting frustrated, all Martin Luther-style, won't make your faith any more personally relevant than hers.
Have you ever read what Jesus said about and to those non-believing Jews? Try picking up a Bible and reading so.
Of course not. Which is why Jillie's question is as obnoxious as it is bigoted. You can't "prove" anything to a non-believer using the bible because THEY DON'T BELIEVE THE BIBLE.
It's a wasted effort. Pearls before swine.
God spews an insult.
Praise God!
Not an insult, a metaphor.
But lost on those without the wits to understand the concept of a metaphor.
Of course not. Which is why Jillie's question is as obnoxious as it is bigoted. You can't "prove" anything to a non-believer using the bible because THEY DON'T BELIEVE THE BIBLE.
It's a wasted effort. Pearls before swine.
God spews an insult.
Praise God!
Not an insult, a metaphor.
But lost on those without the wits to understand the concept of a metaphor.
is THAT the kind of thing Jesus would have said? "Your kind"? There ARE such a thing as jewish christians, you know. Getting frustrated, all Martin Luther-style, won't make your faith any more personally relevant than hers.
Have you ever read what Jesus said about and to those non-believing Jews? Try picking up a Bible and reading so.
I have. I've also read about what your messiah said about how it's HIS role to judge people and not YOUR role to throw the first stone. Funny how YOUR kind have become nothing less than pharisees, eh?
How to identify a zealot:
1. They always interject their religious beliefs in the forms of "teachings" into topics that are inherently not related to such, usually in the form of reciting or repeating some scriptural reference.
2. They insist that all other religions are wrong or evil regardless of the fact that they truly do not have more validity or truth in their own religion.
3. When their religion is insulted indirectly they will rant and cry foul even after the person who had done so apologizes.
4. Everything they disagree with that becomes law or any act that is different than them, no matter how unrelated, is considered an "attack" even when those involved are not focusing on the religious aspect of such.
It works in politics to, but meh, different topic.
giving the fact I never refer to the bible or quote it I doubt I have made any blunders regarding it. I might state what I believe happened and it might not go along with what the bible says but it doesn't make it a blunder. But go ahead and show me where I even refer to the bible or even quote it.I have read the bible, went to youth group for years, and was a Job's Daughter for five years. I understand the bible completly. ANd if I don't want to buy into it that is my choice so don't assume everyone doesn't follow it has no understanding of it. Plus most people you don't believe in the bible do not believe in the heaven it speaks of so I don't think they are worried about not getting into it.If everyone follows the guide lines and commandments that the Bible puts forth they will have eternal life, why anyone would go against it and or put it down as a worthless religious book is beyond explanation. A lot of you people who are against the message of the Bible[you can be against Christianity all you like, thats man-made] most likely have not red the Bible in detail with the inspiration of the Spirit and with understanding so its only logical that you would lash out against that which you don't understand. The Bible is *NOT* subject to change its message based on what is acceptable by man because it is not man who will allow you into heaven or send you to hell it is God, so if homosexuality, pornography and glorification of fornication and sexual promiscuity is popular and or widely accepted by man the Bible is not wrong for its holy message against those types of things and conversely, those of us who preach these scared principles are not zealots and fundies.
Nobody understands the bible completely, and I've seen you make some pretty humongous blunders regarding pretty basic biblical concepts.
And Jillie, you just hate Christians.
