Revised Same-sex Marriage/Religion Poll

Discussion in 'Religion and Ethics' started by Coloradomtnman, Apr 20, 2009.

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Do you support state recognized same-sex marriage or not, and are you religious?

Poll closed May 4, 2009.
  1. I am against state recognized same-sex marriage and I'm religious.

    5 vote(s)
    13.5%
  2. I am against state recognized same-sex marriage and I'm not religious.

    7 vote(s)
    18.9%
  3. I support state recognized same-sex marriage and I'm religious.

    9 vote(s)
    24.3%
  4. I support state recognized same-sex marriage and I'm not religious.

    16 vote(s)
    43.2%
  1. Coloradomtnman
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    Dis told me how to do this, so I'm re-starting the thread with the poll attached. If you've already answered, please do so again so I can make sure to get an accurate sample of USMB posters. Thanks.
     
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    glad you got it working.

    Obviously, I'm for...
     
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    I tried to answer as closely as I could.

    I'm for civil unions for ALL, not just gays. I think marriage should be a private thing and if can get someone to marry you then you can be married, but it would carry no legal rights. A civil union OTOH would convey legal rights and should be available to any and all couples.

    I also consider myself more spiritual than religious. I don't have any dogma that I cling to other than I think we're supposed to love each other as unconditionally as we are capable of.
     
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    Don't you go to church and believe in the Bible? Cause if that's so, then you're religious. If you believe in a higher power, but not in any one religion, don't go to church or official temple, don't read an ancient text about said religion, then you're spritual, not religious.
     
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    I'm sorry, but you don't get to define me.

    I go to church for many reasons, none of them make me religious by definition. I believe in the overall message of the Bible, but I'm not a literalist.

    Your reasoning above is so flawed I don't even know where to start. I think it's really ironic when I see libs doing what you just did. Out of 1 side of your mouth you'd call me a bigot because of my views on race, or a homophobe because of my views on homosexuality. You'd say I was narrow-minded and should get out and experience more of life.

    Then... out of the other side of your mouth you'd BE the exact kind of person you just thought I was.

    The irony would hilarious if it wasn't so painful.
     
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    Wrong again, as usual, one is spiritual if they say they are irregardless of religion. Claiming religious people can not be spiritual is ignorant as hell.
     
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    I can define you, you're a person that doesn't know anything about the Bible but calls yourself a Christian anyway...I'm sure Paul had a few bad words to say about people such as that.
     
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    Well, I'm sorry, but you don't understand the purpose of this poll. I'm keeping it simple: there are four choices above. See them?

    So, here religious defined: From the Merriam-Webster:

    Here is the definition of spiritual:
    So you can be both religious and spiritual. But for the purposes of this poll, I am attempting to determine from a sample of USMB posters if the same-sex marriage is mostly a religious issue or a traditional issue.

    If you go to Church or temple or the Synagogue or mosque or any other official religious place, read the Bible or someother religious text, pray to Jesus and His Father in Heaven or Mohammed or Yaweh or godhead who has particular religious ways in which you are supposed to behave, you are religious because you practice an official religion. You may also be spiritual.

    If you don't go to Church or temple or whatever, don't read the Bible or Quran or whatever, don't pray to Jesus or God or whomever, but believe in a nameless higher power or no higher power at all, yet don't follow an organized religion, don't read an official religious text and in no way are associatred with a "RELIGION" then you are not religious. Get it?

    Its just to get an accurate cross section of USMB posters. Don't say you're not religious if you practice a religion. That's skews the results of this poll.
     
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    I bet you'd be quite surprised if you knew me. I was raised with the Bible always being around and at a time when I was questioning my faith I did a lot of reading both of the Bible (all the various versions) and other texts about the Bible. I came to the conclusion that taking the Bible literally was incorrect, because it simply wasn't written to be taken literally.

    Here's a little example of what I know about the Bible that many who claim to be very religious don't: Before King James commissioned the KJV the 3 most popular versions of the Bible were The Bishops Bible, The Geneva Bible and The Great Bible. The Great Bible was the previous "official" bible of the Church of England and had been such since the time of King Henry VIII.
     
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    I don't care about the purpose of the poll. I do care about narrow stereotyping tho so I spoke up. And FWIW, attempting to use lexical definitions is a weak debate tactic. Whenever I see anyone whipping out a definition of a word to prove a point it shows the inherent weakness of whatever other "logic" they are trying to support.
     

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