The Arctic is already effectively ice free

[Crick]

I'll take a picture over science fiction any day of the week Here's the ice cover as of yesterday. The hunt for 200 foot thick multi year ice is a lie. There is no such thing on the water. You can get that thick of ice on land however and it is easy to find if you open your eyes.

The US Navy, whose submarines have made numerous forays under the ice and directly measured its thickness, would disagree.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Arctic Sea Ice and Al Gore s Prediction 2013
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Dr. Barber has been searching for 200-foot thick multiyear Arctic sea ice in the Beaufort Sea, an area of the Arctic Ocean that stretches for almost 1,000 miles along the coasts of Alaska and Canada.

For his research in summer 2010, he cruised through the Beaufort Sea in the ice breaker Amundsen and never did find that multiyear ice. What Barber's team did find was vastly different from what the satellites were telling them was there. They thought they would find 20- to 30-foot thick multiyear ice covering 7 percent to 9 percent of the Beaufort Sea.

Instead, they found 25 percent open water and very small remnant multiyear and first-year floes interspersed with thin new ice in between. Unfortunately, these satellite errors are not in our favor. The problem is because these conditions are new. They simply have not existed before, so there was no way to test for them and know that this sea icescape looks, to the eye of the satellite, exactly like a sea icescape that is thick and solid.7

The ice the Amundsen encountered was so rotten that it did not impede the forward progress of the ship. What they found was hundreds of miles of what Barber called "rotten ice." This was 20-inch layers of fresh ice covering small chunks of older ice.8This discovery came as a great surprise to this researcher as he cruised through the rotten ice of the Beaufort Sea at 14 miles per hour (the top speed of his vessel in open water is 15 miles per hour). The Amundsen was designed to break 1-meter thick sea ice (3.3 feet) at 3.4 miles per hour. The ice they found was so rotten that the Amundsen could break 19 to 26 feet of rotten multiyear ice at 5.7 miles per hour.9

EXCERPT
"Ship navigation across the pole is imminent as the type of ice which resides there is no longer a barrier to [normal] ships in the late summer and fall,"10

"If you want to ship across the pole, you're concerned about multiyear sea ice. You're not concerned about this rotten stuff we we're doing 13 knots through. It's easy to navigate through. I would argue that we almost have a seasonally ice-free Arctic now, because multiyear sea ice is the barrier to the use and development of the Arctic."11

The entire human race is about to face the most radical change in lifestyle it has ever seen. Most people are oblivious to it but it is near. Global Warming is right at the spot where we won't be able to reverse it, if we haven't already done past it. Once Runaway Global Warming begins the game is over.

There have been 5 major mass extinctions in the history of life on Earth, we are now in well into the beginning of the 6th.

Because governments around the world are generally run by the wealthy that don't want to give up their revenue streams, the rest of humanity will pay the price for the greed of these very few scumbags.

Of course the moment will come when the masses DO figure out how horrendous life is going to get and guess who they will be pointing at to string up on the maypole.

Tell that to the Romans. It was at least 2 degrees warmer during the Roman Warming Period and civilization blossomed. You clowns haven't got a fucking clue of what you are speaking of. Try reading some history instead of your science fiction.

You might actually learn something.

The problem isn't being 2 degrees warmer. The problem is when it becomes a runaway train that we can't ever hope to stop.

Yeah? Got any lab work that shows how a wisp if CO2 can do that?

Didn't think so.

 

[Crick]

The OP discusses what a scientist found when he went to the Arctic specifically to look at the ice and what he found. The OP discusses the differences between what the satellites think they see and what is actually floating around up there.

You've already heard ad infinitum how that wisp os CO2 is doing that Frank. I've asked you this before but you've never answered. What do YOU think is raising Arctic temperatures and melting all the ice? Or are you going to argue that the ice is all still there?

 

[frigidweirdo]

Yeah? Got any lab work that shows how a wisp if CO2 can do that?

Didn't think so.

Do I need lab work?

Firstly we're dealing with an unknown. Some people's attitude to an unknown is "if I can't see it, it's not happening", and others are more cautious. I mean, if you were skiing down a mountain in a blizzard, would you go at 100MPH and say "ah, i can't see any danger, so there isn't any"?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Yeah? Got any lab work that shows how a wisp if CO2 can do that?

Didn't think so.

Do I need lab work?

Firstly we're dealing with an unknown. Some people's attitude to an unknown is "if I can't see it, it's not happening", and others are more cautious. I mean, if you were skiing down a mountain in a blizzard, would you go at 100MPH and say "ah, i can't see any danger, so there isn't any"?

What's "unknown"? Your stupid theory is that a wisp of CO2 is generating all this "Excess heat", show us! That's science.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Arctic Sea Ice and Al Gore s Prediction 2013
EXCERPT
Dr. Barber has been searching for 200-foot thick multiyear Arctic sea ice in the Beaufort Sea, an area of the Arctic Ocean that stretches for almost 1,000 miles along the coasts of Alaska and Canada.

For his research in summer 2010, he cruised through the Beaufort Sea in the ice breaker Amundsen and never did find that multiyear ice. What Barber's team did find was vastly different from what the satellites were telling them was there. They thought they would find 20- to 30-foot thick multiyear ice covering 7 percent to 9 percent of the Beaufort Sea.

Instead, they found 25 percent open water and very small remnant multiyear and first-year floes interspersed with thin new ice in between. Unfortunately, these satellite errors are not in our favor. The problem is because these conditions are new. They simply have not existed before, so there was no way to test for them and know that this sea icescape looks, to the eye of the satellite, exactly like a sea icescape that is thick and solid.7

The ice the Amundsen encountered was so rotten that it did not impede the forward progress of the ship. What they found was hundreds of miles of what Barber called "rotten ice." This was 20-inch layers of fresh ice covering small chunks of older ice.8This discovery came as a great surprise to this researcher as he cruised through the rotten ice of the Beaufort Sea at 14 miles per hour (the top speed of his vessel in open water is 15 miles per hour). The Amundsen was designed to break 1-meter thick sea ice (3.3 feet) at 3.4 miles per hour. The ice they found was so rotten that the Amundsen could break 19 to 26 feet of rotten multiyear ice at 5.7 miles per hour.9

EXCERPT
"Ship navigation across the pole is imminent as the type of ice which resides there is no longer a barrier to [normal] ships in the late summer and fall,"10

"If you want to ship across the pole, you're concerned about multiyear sea ice. You're not concerned about this rotten stuff we we're doing 13 knots through. It's easy to navigate through. I would argue that we almost have a seasonally ice-free Arctic now, because multiyear sea ice is the barrier to the use and development of the Arctic."11

The entire human race is about to face the most radical change in lifestyle it has ever seen. Most people are oblivious to it but it is near. Global Warming is right at the spot where we won't be able to reverse it, if we haven't already done past it. Once Runaway Global Warming begins the game is over.

There have been 5 major mass extinctions in the history of life on Earth, we are now in well into the beginning of the 6th.

Because governments around the world are generally run by the wealthy that don't want to give up their revenue streams, the rest of humanity will pay the price for the greed of these very few scumbags.

Of course the moment will come when the masses DO figure out how horrendous life is going to get and guess who they will be pointing at to string up on the maypole.

Tell that to the Romans. It was at least 2 degrees warmer during the Roman Warming Period and civilization blossomed. You clowns haven't got a fucking clue of what you are speaking of. Try reading some history instead of your science fiction.

You might actually learn something.

The problem isn't being 2 degrees warmer. The problem is when it becomes a runaway train that we can't ever hope to stop.

The idea that you think we can control the weather......

 

[Old Rocks]

We may not be controlling the weather, but we are definately changing it. From the increase in 100,000 acre fires from less than one per year to nearly 10 per year in the us in the last 20 years, to the decline of ice area and change in the type of ice in the Arctic, we are seeing those changes negatively affecting all of us. Those in denial, and those outright lying about the changes will delay any efforts to ameliorate the problems associated with the changes until they create catastrophes for a large number of people. I hope to be a leading voice is seeing that there is an accounting for this.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The OP discusses what a scientist found when he went to the Arctic specifically to look at the ice and what he found. The OP discusses the differences between what the satellites think they see and what is actually floating around up there.

You've already heard ad infinitum how that wisp os CO2 is doing that Frank. I've asked you this before but you've never answered. What do YOU think is raising Arctic temperatures and melting all the ice? Or are you going to argue that the ice is all still there?

You claim that it does, but you have zero evidence to support your claim

 

[Old Rocks]

Mr. CrusaderFrank, you are such a stupid ass I normally ignore your posts. However, your claim of lack of evidence to support my claims is so ridiculous that I have to answer it. Let's look at just fires. How many 100,000 acre fires in just Alaska right now? How many thousands of people evacuated from their homes because of fires in the US right now? What is the present fire danger in the Western US right now?

As far as the OP goes, those finding were presented in a paper, and were not contested. After all, it was not just one scientist, but a number of them on that ship, and they had photos and the ships records. Your claim of no evidence is just so idiotic. More flap-yap from a mindless loser.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

^ real science, cab replicate conditions a nanosecond after the Big Bang

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^ Climate "Science" Laughing at AGWCult gullibility. Oh, no, we can't control for a 120PPM difference in CO2, that's too hard!

See the difference?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Mr. CrusaderFrank, you are such a stupid ass I normally ignore your posts. However, your claim of lack of evidence to support my claims is so ridiculous that I have to answer it. Let's look at just fires. How many 100,000 acre fires in just Alaska right now? How many thousands of people evacuated from their homes because of fires in the US right now? What is the present fire danger in the Western US right now?

As far as the OP goes, those finding were presented in a paper, and were not contested. After all, it was not just one scientist, but a number of them on that ship, and they had photos and the ships records. Your claim of no evidence is just so idiotic. More flap-yap from a mindless loser.

Like Crick, if insults were explanations, you'd be wikipedia.

Forest fires are cause by a wisp of CO2? Really? You're a pleasure to have as an AGWCult apologist because your explanation are literally the funniest things I read on the Environment Forum.

"Only you can prevent --Global Warming"

 

[frigidweirdo]

What's "unknown"? Your stupid theory is that a wisp of CO2 is generating all this "Excess heat", show us! That's science.

My theory? Certainly doesn't appear to be my theory at all.

What are you basing any of this on, for it to be my theory?

 

[frigidweirdo]

The idea that you think we can control the weather......

We think we can control things more than we can.

Many people are taking a bet on the fact that the weather won't suddenly go a little AWOL in terms of what is good for humans on this planet. Therefore they say that pumping a Greenhouse gas into the atmosphere at unprecedented rates won't actually do anything bad for us.

When, or if, this turns out not to be the case, we can't go back. Is it worth the risk? Oh, and all for a little more profit.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

What's "unknown"? Your stupid theory is that a wisp of CO2 is generating all this "Excess heat", show us! That's science.

My theory? Certainly doesn't appear to be my theory at all.

What are you basing any of this on, for it to be my theory?

Did you sign up with Manmade climate change theory?

 

[frigidweirdo]

What's "unknown"? Your stupid theory is that a wisp of CO2 is generating all this "Excess heat", show us! That's science.

My theory? Certainly doesn't appear to be my theory at all.

What are you basing any of this on, for it to be my theory?

Did you sign up with Manmade climate change theory?

Depends what the "Manmade climate change theory" is. You're being rather specific.

Maybe I can make this easier for you. I look at the evidence, and I make a judgement on what I think is happening.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

What's "unknown"? Your stupid theory is that a wisp of CO2 is generating all this "Excess heat", show us! That's science.

My theory? Certainly doesn't appear to be my theory at all.

What are you basing any of this on, for it to be my theory?

Did you sign up with Manmade climate change theory?

Depends what the "Manmade climate change theory" is. You're being rather specific.

Maybe I can make this easier for you. I look at the evidence, and I make a judgement on what I think is happening.

What's evidence?

 

[skookerasbil]

My God......Frank.......these people are disturbed beyond help!!!

The next blizzard here in the northeast, they will say, "Thats not really snow you see.......its rain tinted white!!"


"rotten snow"

 

[defcon4]

Global Warming is right at the spot where we won't be able to reverse it, if we haven't already done past it. Once Runaway Global Warming begins the game is over.

It's already here!!!! Tampa Bay area is flooded already. Some people are paddling their way up to the Appalachians the only higher ground nearby...
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[skookerasbil]

lmao

 

[CrusaderFrank]

My God......Frank.......these people are disturbed beyond help!!!

The next blizzard here in the northeast, they will say, "Thats not really snow you see.......its rain tinted white!!"


"rotten snow"

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