The anti police paradox

[Ernie S.]

In a state led by a Liberal Governor no less.

 

[Treeshepherd]

I always root for the fugitive. I can't help it.

Even if you don't, you have to be impressed by the escape. Legendary.

 

[TemplarKormac]

I always root for the fugitive. I can't help it.

Even if you don't, you have to be impressed by the escape. Legendary.

Really? And you want to know where this anti police sentiment comes from?

 

[NoNukes]

I wasn't being sarcastic. I was serious. He was already a clear and present danger to any populated area would eventually come to. How else were the cops supposed to apprehend him? What were they supposed to do? Let him tire himself out?

Sorry bubba, I was. I thought you finally got it with your second post.

Oh. My bad.

I thought the three butts at the first would be a giveaway.

Oh, they were, I laughed. I also am wondering where all the liberals are to chime in here?

They're cowards.

It is a stupid thread.

 

[OKTexas]

Time to check that sarcasm meter there Temp.

I wasn't being sarcastic. I was serious. He was already a clear and present danger to any populated area would eventually come to. How else were the cops supposed to apprehend him? What were they supposed to do? Let him tire himself out?

Sorry bubba, I was. I thought you finally got it with your second post.

Oh. My bad.

I thought the three butts at the first would be a giveaway.

The second escapee was a convicted cop killer. Corrections officers and State police were told to shoot to kill.

So a fleeing felon can be shot in NY, but not in NC, that don't seem right.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Sorry bubba, I was. I thought you finally got it with your second post.

Oh. My bad.

I thought the three butts at the first would be a giveaway.

Oh, they were, I laughed. I also am wondering where all the liberals are to chime in here?

They're cowards.

It is a stupid thread.

Is that all you have to say?

 

[NoNukes]

Oh. My bad.

I thought the three butts at the first would be a giveaway.

Oh, they were, I laughed. I also am wondering where all the liberals are to chime in here?

They're cowards.

It is a stupid thread.

Is that all you have to say?

Yes.

 

[TemplarKormac]

I thought the three butts at the first would be a giveaway.

Oh, they were, I laughed. I also am wondering where all the liberals are to chime in here?

They're cowards.

It is a stupid thread.

Is that all you have to say?

Yes.

Smdh. Then get out, if you have nothing productive to add to the discussion.

 

[Ernie S.]

Oh. My bad.

I thought the three butts at the first would be a giveaway.

Oh, they were, I laughed. I also am wondering where all the liberals are to chime in here?

They're cowards.

It is a stupid thread.

Is that all you have to say?

He doesn't have any more. (not very bright)

 

[NoNukes]

I thought the three butts at the first would be a giveaway.

Oh, they were, I laughed. I also am wondering where all the liberals are to chime in here?

They're cowards.

It is a stupid thread.

Is that all you have to say?

He doesn't have any more. (not very bright)

Another addition to prove my point. Thanks Ernie.

 

[Ernie S.]

I wasn't being sarcastic. I was serious. He was already a clear and present danger to any populated area would eventually come to. How else were the cops supposed to apprehend him? What were they supposed to do? Let him tire himself out?

Sorry bubba, I was. I thought you finally got it with your second post.

Oh. My bad.

I thought the three butts at the first would be a giveaway.

The second escapee was a convicted cop killer. Corrections officers and State police were told to shoot to kill.

So a fleeing felon can be shot in NY, but not in NC, that don't seem right.

In all fairness, The escapee was a convicted cop killer doing life. Corrections officers were out in the woods for 21 days. Everyone wanted it over and Andy Cuomo was starting to look bad.

 

[Ernie S.]

Oh, they were, I laughed. I also am wondering where all the liberals are to chime in here?

They're cowards.

It is a stupid thread.

Is that all you have to say?

He doesn't have any more. (not very bright)

Another addition to prove my point. Thanks Ernie.

No problem, guy. I knew you couldn't spell "bright".

 

[TemplarKormac]

Another addition to prove my point.

What point were you making?

 

[Treeshepherd]

I always root for the fugitive. I can't help it.

Even if you don't, you have to be impressed by the escape. Legendary.

Really? And you want to know where this anti police sentiment comes from?

It was an epic escape. Admit it.

The fugitives from an upstate prison pulled off their great escape like true pros — according to a local engineer who has worked on the facility.

“They are very good at what they do, with a lot of training,” Larry Jeffords, owner of Jeffords Steel and Engineering in Plattsburgh, told the Associated Press after seeing pictures of their prison break.
“The grinding dust is tremendous — sparks, smoke,” Jeffords said. “To do that with a grinder and to do as nice a hole as they did, I just can’t see it done. I'm in the steel business and I've said before I could have sent my best man up there with an acetylene torch or a plasma cutter and I couldn't have a better hole.”

From a strategic standpoint, the interesting question is this-- what could they have done in order to get away? Travel more at at night? Boost a car? Hop a train?

Or, maybe just hunker down and wait it out. There were so many officers hunting for them though...

 

[OKTexas]

Sorry bubba, I was. I thought you finally got it with your second post.

Oh. My bad.

I thought the three butts at the first would be a giveaway.

The second escapee was a convicted cop killer. Corrections officers and State police were told to shoot to kill.

So a fleeing felon can be shot in NY, but not in NC, that don't seem right.

In all fairness, The escapee was a convicted cop killer doing life. Corrections officers were out in the woods for 21 days. Everyone wanted it over and Andy Cuomo was starting to look bad.

I think you missed my point and Cuomo needs no help looking bad.

 

[TemplarKormac]

It was an epic escape. Admit it.

No. I'm not in the business of glorifying stupidity.

 

[Treeshepherd]

It was an epic escape. Admit it.

No. I'm not in the business of glorifying stupidity.

You can call them murderous and morally bankrupt. It's stupid of you to call them stupid. 'Cunning' is an appropriate word to describe the first escape ever from a NY maximum security prison (since 1865).

 

[TemplarKormac]

It was an epic escape. Admit it.

No. I'm not in the business of glorifying stupidity.

You can call them murderous and morally bankrupt. It's stupid of you to call them stupid. 'Cunning' is an appropriate word to describe the first escape ever from a NY maximum security prison (since 1865).

 

[DarkFury]

As we all are aware, two dangerous prisoners in New York were captured by vigilant police officers conducting a massive dragnet. One was killed, the other disabled. In this one instance, more of us than not were rooting for the police to nab those filthy bastards.

But, if the police effect an arrest of a person of various minority... the attitude changes entirely. Take Ferguson for example. Why is that? I label it "the anti police paradox." Some far left liberals root for them one time, and berate them the next. If you want to see what happens when cops are afraid to do their jobs, look no further than New York City and Baltimore.

In New York City, there has been no love lost between Mayor Bill DeBlasio and his police force. He repeatedly made anti-police remarks, and essentially threw them under the bus. Arrests plummeted 66% in 2014 after two NYPD officers, Rafael Ramos and Wenjian Liu were murdered in their patrol car, which only widened the rift between officers and the mayor.

In January of this year, that lack of enforcement was felt by residents in the Marcy Houses, 27 brick H-block buildings, each six stories high, that are home to nearly 4,300 people, all Black or Latino, and not a block away from where the two officers were killed. These residents were left wondering where the once regular police presence had gone. Now we know why.

In poor New York neighborhoods residents ask Where are the police Reuters

In Baltimore, news broke tonight that revealed Police Commanders did in fact order their police officers not to engage rioters during the riots that ravaged the city on April 28th. Homicide rates skyrocketed afterwards, leaving some residents in West Baltimore in late May to ask, "where did the police go?" Afterwards, Baltimore in one month experienced the highest murder rates it had seen in 16 years. Cops were even on record admitting that they were afraid to do their jobs. Now we know why.

Rash of homicides in West Baltimore have residents asking Where are police - CBS News

This paradox should reveal the hypocrisy by some to try and paint police officers as brutal and racist, while cheering them on when they are in hot pursuit of two escaped convicts. Yet as we saw in New York, they can be our saviors.

A lot of the people in that area want "other" criminals caught NOT their family members. When the "victim" is ALSO a criminal you have to make a choice. Justice for all or just a few. That area chose a few and now residents are about to find out who those few are.

 

[auditor0007]

As we all are aware, two dangerous prisoners in New York were captured by vigilant police officers conducting a massive dragnet. One was killed, the other disabled. In this one instance, more of us than not were rooting for the police to nab those filthy bastards.

But, if the police effect an arrest of a person of various minority... the attitude changes entirely. Take Ferguson for example. Why is that? I label it "the anti police paradox." Some far left liberals root for them one time, and berate them the next. If you want to see what happens when cops are afraid to do their jobs, look no further than New York City and Baltimore.

In New York City, there has been no love lost between Mayor Bill DeBlasio and his police force. He repeatedly made anti-police remarks, and essentially threw them under the bus. Arrests plummeted 66% in 2014 after two NYPD officers, Rafael Ramos and Wenjian Liu were murdered in their patrol car, which only widened the rift between officers and the mayor.

In January of this year, that lack of enforcement was felt by residents in the Marcy Houses, 27 brick H-block buildings, each six stories high, that are home to nearly 4,300 people, all Black or Latino, and not a block away from where the two officers were killed. These residents were left wondering where the once regular police presence had gone. Now we know why.

In poor New York neighborhoods residents ask Where are the police Reuters

In Baltimore, news broke tonight that revealed Police Commanders did in fact order their police officers not to engage rioters during the riots that ravaged the city on April 28th. Homicide rates skyrocketed afterwards, leaving some residents in West Baltimore in late May to ask, "where did the police go?" Afterwards, Baltimore in one month experienced the highest murder rates it had seen in 16 years. Cops were even on record admitting that they were afraid to do their jobs. Now we know why.

Rash of homicides in West Baltimore have residents asking Where are police - CBS News

This paradox should reveal the hypocrisy by some to try and paint police officers as brutal and racist, while cheering them on when they are in hot pursuit of two escaped convicts. Yet as we saw in New York, they can be our saviors.

I didn't bother reading your diatribe because form the get go I can tell that you are very confused about the frustration many of us have with the police. Most cops are good cops just trying to do their job. Unfortunately, there are a lot of bad cops out there. It's a small percentage, but they are dangerous and they think they are above the law. The real frustration is that most good cops back these bad cops up, and therein lies the true problem. Understanding when a cop has crossed the line is important, and we as everyday citizens should expect more from those who serve us.