task0778
Diamond Member
If tasers aren't dependable to stop somebody then what is? When you got a guy with a warrant out on him or sexual assault, you can't let the guy get away. Anybody want to argue that? If you let him go and he rapes somebody afterwards, what do you say to the victim and her family then? "Well, we didn't want to shoot the poor guy?"
Police misconduct is a multi-faceted problem where the cops are only one part and not even the biggest part IMHO. Part of the problem is also that those in charge of the police dept and the city ought to be prosecuting or at least firing the bad cops, but that isn't happening. And they are primarily democrats who are charged with providing and ensuring public safety and security, so I think that's an even bigger part of the problem. Fix that, and the deterrence for the rest of your police force kicks in and your problem is reduced.
BUT - in order to do that the gov'ts at the local and state level have to change their contracts and laws with regard to police unions. Past reports or claims of police misconduct need to be included in the deliberation for the most recent misconduct, and at some point after a sufficient number of complaints have surfaced the officer needs to be fired or at least removed to desk job or something. Probably there needs to be a law that says a public union cannot give political donations to anybody, which somewhat precludes the appearance of impropriety on the part of elected officials who are not removing bad cops from the force.
Back to the cops, they need to be better trained and better equipped with non-lethal means of subduing a person without shooting them. A lot of cops are not in the best physical shape to be wrestling around with somebody younger and stronger. It happens when you get older, y'know? You don't like the choke hold? Well what do you like, what is a cop supposed to do?
Another part of the problem is the subject being arrested, usually black guys that resist. If you don't resist then you don't get shot, unless maybe you get free of them and outrun the cops to get away. Do you let the guy escape? What if he's wanted for murder or rape, do you shoot him in the back? No? What if he hurts or kills somebody later? If he's wanted for a less serious non-violent crime, then IMHO that's another story. We'd have to talk about what to do then, shooting a fleeing suspect who is charged with a misdemeanor doesn't seem to meet the level of a threat to the community.
Finally, in the end the problem also rests with the voters. When you elect democrat after democrat and nothing changes, then IMHO you are part of the problem too. Here's a hint: elect a Republican! You have to play one party against the other to get your desired outcomes. Maybe you don't get it all at once, but you send the message to do something for us that works or you're gone.
Police misconduct is a multi-faceted problem where the cops are only one part and not even the biggest part IMHO. Part of the problem is also that those in charge of the police dept and the city ought to be prosecuting or at least firing the bad cops, but that isn't happening. And they are primarily democrats who are charged with providing and ensuring public safety and security, so I think that's an even bigger part of the problem. Fix that, and the deterrence for the rest of your police force kicks in and your problem is reduced.
BUT - in order to do that the gov'ts at the local and state level have to change their contracts and laws with regard to police unions. Past reports or claims of police misconduct need to be included in the deliberation for the most recent misconduct, and at some point after a sufficient number of complaints have surfaced the officer needs to be fired or at least removed to desk job or something. Probably there needs to be a law that says a public union cannot give political donations to anybody, which somewhat precludes the appearance of impropriety on the part of elected officials who are not removing bad cops from the force.
Back to the cops, they need to be better trained and better equipped with non-lethal means of subduing a person without shooting them. A lot of cops are not in the best physical shape to be wrestling around with somebody younger and stronger. It happens when you get older, y'know? You don't like the choke hold? Well what do you like, what is a cop supposed to do?
Another part of the problem is the subject being arrested, usually black guys that resist. If you don't resist then you don't get shot, unless maybe you get free of them and outrun the cops to get away. Do you let the guy escape? What if he's wanted for murder or rape, do you shoot him in the back? No? What if he hurts or kills somebody later? If he's wanted for a less serious non-violent crime, then IMHO that's another story. We'd have to talk about what to do then, shooting a fleeing suspect who is charged with a misdemeanor doesn't seem to meet the level of a threat to the community.
Finally, in the end the problem also rests with the voters. When you elect democrat after democrat and nothing changes, then IMHO you are part of the problem too. Here's a hint: elect a Republican! You have to play one party against the other to get your desired outcomes. Maybe you don't get it all at once, but you send the message to do something for us that works or you're gone.