The 50 most developed countries in the world and Universal Healthcare.

and everyone on your list from western Europe has major problems
we have Canadians coming across the border looking for health care
people in Scandinavian countries dying at home because they were waiting for SIMPLE chest xrays

but i'm sure if we pull another ACA the one that multinational insurance companies wrote and nancy pelosi said we'll have to wait till its passed to see whats in it 'NOW THAT THE Solution

define socialism derrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrp
I'm yet to meet a canadian that is not happy with their health system or doesn't feel sorry for our system...and millions of Americans cross borders for cheaper care especially to Mexico.

Biitch! I've yet to meet a Canadian that doesn't get procedures done in the US while they're visiting for months. Why? Because they don't have to wait here.
Bitch....Millions of Americans cross the border to get care and millions more can't afford healthcare premiums or the co-pays for suregeries and other medication....I see this all the time where people are complaining they can't afford health care premiums, or can't a surgery done because they don't have the money....in developed countries, citizens are taken care of....here %54 of the budget go to defense contractors (not socialism) taking care of the citizens is socialism.
 
“Why does the United States, the wealthiest country in the world and the 3rd wealthiest per captia country, still not provide Universal Healthcare for its citizens?”

Because conservatives have successfully propagated the lie that in addition to being ‘too expensive,’ providing all Americans access to affordable healthcare will ‘destroy capitalism’ and make America ‘socialist’ – when in fact nothing could be further from the truth.
What the heck do you call obamacare?

No socialist ideas ever work out as intended.
You have canadians and Europeans laughing their asses off at our healthcare system...and you play dumb? they have a waaaaaaaay better system than we do, is proven time and time again.....what are you on about? I'm half the time in Europe, they know how we struggle with the current system, they can't comprehend it....same thing for gun violence, the whole world shakes their heads.
 
“Why does the United States, the wealthiest country in the world and the 3rd wealthiest per captia country, still not provide Universal Healthcare for its citizens?”

Because conservatives have successfully propagated the lie that in addition to being ‘too expensive,’ providing all Americans access to affordable healthcare will ‘destroy capitalism’ and make America ‘socialist’ – when in fact nothing could be further from the truth.
What the heck do you call obamacare?

No socialist ideas ever work out as intended.
You have canadians and Europeans laughing their asses off at our healthcare system...and you play dumb? they have a waaaaaaaay better system than we do, is proven time and time again.....what are you on about? I'm half the time in Europe, they know how we struggle with the current system, they can't comprehend it....same thing for gun violence, the whole world shakes their heads.

Here in America, we don't give a fuck what Europeans and Canucks do at home. :dunno:

Canadians are here half their lives anyways, and I think it's mandatory they buy health insurance when they come. Like I've never talked to any or something. :rolleyes:

They wait until they come here to get procedures.
 
Below are the 50 most developed countries in the world ranked according to the UN Human Development index which measures development and standard of living through estimates of GDP per capita, life expectancy, and education. There are a total of 197 countries in the world today. 193 of those countries are part of the United Nations. 45 out of the 50 most developed countries in the world below provide UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE for its citizens, essentially medicare for all. The following are the five countries from the list below that do not:

01. Cyprus
02. United Arab Emirates
03. Qatar
04. Bahrain
05. United States

Cyprus is currently In the process of moving to a Universal Healthcare system which will be completed in a few years. That will leave the United States alone with three Arab countries as being the only countries, of the 50 most developed in the world, that do not have Universal HealthCare.

Why does the United States, the wealthiest country in the world and the 3rd wealthiest per captia country, still not provide Universal Healthcare for its citizens? How could anyone say that Universal HealthCare is impossible or too expensive for the United States when nearly all of the 50 most developed countries in the world provide it for its citizens?


50 MOST DEVELOPED COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD RANKED:


01 - Norway
02 - Switzerland
03 - Australia
04 - Ireland
05 - Germany
06 - Iceland
07 - San Marino
08 - Sweden
09 - Singapore
10 - Netherlands
11 - Denmark
12 Canada
13 - United States
14 - United Kingdom
15 - Monaco
16 - Vatican City
17 - Finland
18 - New Zealand
19 - Belgium
20 - Liechtenstein
21 - Japan
22 - Austria
23 - Luxembourg
24 - Israel
25 - Taiwan
26 - South Korea
27 - France
28 - Slovenia
29 - Spain
30 - Czech Republic
31 - Italy
32 - Malta
33 - Estonia
34 - Greece
35 - Cyprus
36 - Poland
37 - United Arab Emirates
38 - Andorra
39 - Lithuania
40 - Qatar
41 - Slovakia
42 - Brunei
43 - Saudi Arabia
44 - Latvia
45 - Portugal
46 - Bahrain
47 - Chile
48 - Hungary
49 - Croatia
50 - Argentina

The US almost got there but repubs complained about the mandate

Without the mandate Trump is going to have to heavily subsidize health care with government funds to keep the price down

Most people want affordable heath care

The mandate was necessary because only with a large amount of people in the system will health care cost remain manageable

Its simple the more people you have then health care companies will have a steady business and can provide health care at a reasonable cost.

I say let those who want to pay a doctor whatever the doctor wants should be able to choose that doctor

health care companies should pay the going rate and if the doctor wants more then let the individual pay the difference.
 
Below are the 50 most developed countries in the world ranked according to the UN Human Development index which measures development and standard of living through estimates of GDP per capita, life expectancy, and education. There are a total of 197 countries in the world today. 193 of those countries are part of the United Nations. 45 out of the 50 most developed countries in the world below provide UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE for its citizens, essentially medicare for all. The following are the five countries from the list below that do not:

01. Cyprus
02. United Arab Emirates
03. Qatar
04. Bahrain
05. United States

Cyprus is currently In the process of moving to a Universal Healthcare system which will be completed in a few years. That will leave the United States alone with three Arab countries as being the only countries, of the 50 most developed in the world, that do not have Universal HealthCare.

Why does the United States, the wealthiest country in the world and the 3rd wealthiest per captia country, still not provide Universal Healthcare for its citizens? How could anyone say that Universal HealthCare is impossible or too expensive for the United States when nearly all of the 50 most developed countries in the world provide it for its citizens?


50 MOST DEVELOPED COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD RANKED:


01 - Norway
02 - Switzerland
03 - Australia
04 - Ireland
05 - Germany
06 - Iceland
07 - San Marino
08 - Sweden
09 - Singapore
10 - Netherlands
11 - Denmark
12 Canada
13 - United States
14 - United Kingdom
15 - Monaco
16 - Vatican City
17 - Finland
18 - New Zealand
19 - Belgium
20 - Liechtenstein
21 - Japan
22 - Austria
23 - Luxembourg
24 - Israel
25 - Taiwan
26 - South Korea
27 - France
28 - Slovenia
29 - Spain
30 - Czech Republic
31 - Italy
32 - Malta
33 - Estonia
34 - Greece
35 - Cyprus
36 - Poland
37 - United Arab Emirates
38 - Andorra
39 - Lithuania
40 - Qatar
41 - Slovakia
42 - Brunei
43 - Saudi Arabia
44 - Latvia
45 - Portugal
46 - Bahrain
47 - Chile
48 - Hungary
49 - Croatia
50 - Argentina

The US almost got there but repubs complained about the mandate

Without the mandate Trump is going to have to heavily subsidize health care with government funds to keep the price down

Most people want affordable heath care

The mandate was necessary because only with a large amount of people in the system will health care cost remain manageable

Its simple the more people you have then health care companies will have a steady business and can provide health care at a reasonable cost.

I say let those who want to pay a doctor whatever the doctor wants should be able to choose that doctor

health care companies should pay the going rate and if the doctor wants more then let the individual pay the difference.



Wtf is a "Health care Company"? Hmm?

It's insurance, you dumbass! Insurance companies that have lobbyists that bribe state comptrollers to allow them to raise their premiums every year when often they shouldn't be.

That's how we got where we are today. 30-something years of politician bribing going unchecked.
 
You guys scream over $5 billion for border security, yet see no problem with this-

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?
Medicare for All’ Would Cost $32.6 Trillion Over 10 Years, Study Says

Except the U.S.'s healthcare system as is would cost much more than that over 10 years as spending topped $3.5T in 2017 (and it's been rising every year since they've kept tracked). If we're at $3.5T/yr now, and the average over the next 10 yrs sees that spending go up by another $100B/yr, that's $4T/yr or $40T over 10 yrs.

So in fact M4A would dramatically cut costs by virtue of capping expenses via cost controls like they do in every other developed nation that has already figured this out. How has U.S. spending on healthcare changed over time? - Peterson-Kaiser Health System Tracker
 
the constitution is outdated, time to join the 21st century...you guys worship that constitution like is god's sent. There are lot of things in it than need to be updated.

The US Constitution is not outdated. It is the foundation of American Government and Society.

There is a legal process to change/update the Constitution. It’s not easy but it is possible. Unless the Constitution is Amended, it is still the valid law of the land. Sorry you don’t like thst. Too bad.
 
Why does the United States, the wealthiest country in the world and the 3rd wealthiest per captia country, still not provide Universal Healthcare for its citizens? How could anyone say that Universal HealthCare is impossible or too expensive for the United States when nearly all of the 50 most developed countries in the world provide it for its citizens?

A. Most Americans want Universal Healthcare
B. Universal Healthcare will make the United States a stronger more developed country

Sure, why should a lowerclass person be forced to spend all their savings and go into debt just because they get sick? Is that good for the economy? Nope

Wtf is a "Health care Company"? Hmm?

It's insurance, you dumbass! Insurance companies that have lobbyists that bribe state comptrollers to allow them to raise their premiums every year when often they shouldn't be.

Let me answer by posing a Q then....

So right now our local hospital is going broke, instituting salary cuts across the board, asking the town/state for help

And that's just the tip of the HC iceberg across this country right now

Anyone want to tell me how an institution charging $100 for an asprin, and $1000 for ER admission can possibly be entertaining bankrupcy???

~S~
 
Well, ISIS, Al Quada, and Iran also think that the vast majority of the US government is illegitimate and immoral. Most Americans don't.

Universal Healthcare is a standard in modern developed society. The United States is way behind on this, but I'm starting to feel confident it will finally catch up. Its an embarrassment to the extreme that the wealthiest country in the world does not provide its citizens Universal Healthcare when 90% of the top 50 most developed countries in the world do.

I think the United States can do better than countries like Bulgaria, Qatar, and U.A.E. when it comes to providing Healthcare. But right now, those countries are the United States peers in terms of providing healthcare for its citizens. Great company, eh?

Probably why I have more respect for ISIS and Al Queda than most Americans at this point.

I’m not interested in modern society. I’m interested in what the US Constitution allows. 90% of the rest of the world doesn’t allow for private gun ownership either. The US isn’t the rest of the world and hopefully never will be.

I don’t really care what countries we are compared to because I don’t believe we should have contact with other countries.

Universal Healthcare means I die very quickly.bThe ACA has already made my health insurance worse. Medicare for All means I die. It’s thst simple.

Damn, does not believe we should have contact with other countries. That's pretty radical.
Naah, just batshit crazy.
 
...Why does the United States, the wealthiest country in the world and the 3rd wealthiest per captia country, still not provide Universal Healthcare for its citizens? How could anyone say that Universal HealthCare is impossible or too expensive for the United States when nearly all of the 50 most developed countries in the world provide it for its citizens?...

The fact that it is possible to implement such a system is irrelevant here in the United States .

Here the question is whether or not the Founding documents of this country allow for it.

The answer to that question in unequivocally.... NO. The US Constitution does not allow for such things to be run by the Government, even though we have had an unconstitutional Medicare system for almost a century.

Implementing such a system would require a Constitutional Amendment for true legitimacy, and that’s not likely to be possible in the near future.
the constitution is outdated, time to join the 21st century...you guys worship that constitution like is god's sent. There are lot of things in it than need to be updated.
The idea that we can trust politicians to "update" the Constitution doesn't pass the laugh test.
 
and everyone on your list from western Europe has major problems
we have Canadians coming across the border looking for health care
people in Scandinavian countries dying at home because they were waiting for SIMPLE chest xrays

but i'm sure if we pull another ACA the one that multinational insurance companies wrote and nancy pelosi said we'll have to wait till its passed to see whats in it 'NOW THAT THE Solution

define socialism derrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrp
I'm yet to meet a canadian that is not happy with their health system or doesn't feel sorry for our system...and millions of Americans cross borders for cheaper care especially to Mexico.

Biitch! I've yet to meet a Canadian that doesn't get procedures done in the US while they're visiting for months. Why? Because they don't have to wait here.
Bitch....Millions of Americans cross the border to get care and millions more can't afford healthcare premiums or the co-pays for suregeries and other medication....I see this all the time where people are complaining they can't afford health care premiums, or can't a surgery done because they don't have the money....in developed countries, citizens are taken care of....here %54 of the budget go to defense contractors (not socialism) taking care of the citizens is socialism.
Only 18% of our budget goes to the military, moron. The rest of your post is equally wrong.
 
Well, Europe has better healthcare than the United States given that their average life expectancy is longer than ours. They provide this healthcare to all their citizens. The spend less on healthcare than the United States does. So when it comes to healthcare, they win in every category, quality, cost, and the number of people covered.
And they spend a 10th on defense that we do...so why are you a foot soldier for the people that has kept us in this situation for so long?....No one has ever said what Trump has said...that we need to stop wasting our wealth on other nations so we can provide for our own nation...and yet you side with his haters...I guess some folks just need to be kicked in the head to get it.....


Thank you, more proof we need to spend far less on the military and more on the citizens of this country.
 
“Why does the United States, the wealthiest country in the world and the 3rd wealthiest per captia country, still not provide Universal Healthcare for its citizens?”

Because conservatives have successfully propagated the lie that in addition to being ‘too expensive,’ providing all Americans access to affordable healthcare will ‘destroy capitalism’ and make America ‘socialist’ – when in fact nothing could be further from the truth.
What the heck do you call obamacare?

No socialist ideas ever work out as intended.
You have canadians and Europeans laughing their asses off at our healthcare system...and you play dumb? they have a waaaaaaaay better system than we do, is proven time and time again.....what are you on about? I'm half the time in Europe, they know how we struggle with the current system, they can't comprehend it....same thing for gun violence, the whole world shakes their heads.
Lol, that's why they come here if they have a medical emergency.
 
Merrucans prefer to spend the money waging war than on healthcare for all.
 
Why does the United States, the wealthiest country in the world and the 3rd wealthiest per captia country, still not provide Universal Healthcare for its citizens? How could anyone say that Universal HealthCare is impossible or too expensive for the United States when nearly all of the 50 most developed countries in the world provide it for its citizens?

A. Most Americans want Universal Healthcare
B. Universal Healthcare will make the United States a stronger more developed country

Sure, why should a lowerclass person be forced to spend all their savings and go into debt just because they get sick? Is that good for the economy? Nope

Wtf is a "Health care Company"? Hmm?

It's insurance, you dumbass! Insurance companies that have lobbyists that bribe state comptrollers to allow them to raise their premiums every year when often they shouldn't be.

Let me answer by posing a Q then....

So right now our local hospital is going broke, instituting salary cuts across the board, asking the town/state for help

And that's just the tip of the HC iceberg across this country right now

Anyone want to tell me how an institution charging $100 for an asprin, and $1000 for ER admission can possibly be entertaining bankrupcy???

~S~

Middleman insurance companies and Medicare jewing down what they pay hospitals for services.

Couple that with illegals going to the e-room every time their kid has a cold, and there ya go. :dunno:
 
“Why does the United States, the wealthiest country in the world and the 3rd wealthiest per captia country, still not provide Universal Healthcare for its citizens?”

Because conservatives have successfully propagated the lie that in addition to being ‘too expensive,’ providing all Americans access to affordable healthcare will ‘destroy capitalism’ and make America ‘socialist’ – when in fact nothing could be further from the truth.
Because the government can't get a ham sandwich right so imagine how much it will fuck up medicine

 
Damn, does not believe we should have contact with other countries. That's pretty radical.

Very radical for the 21st Century. Not so radical for the 19th century, when this country was still a decent place to live.

Except that in the 19th century you have millions of people in the United States living in Slavery, Women could not vote, and Business often used little children for labor.
 
Below are the 50 most developed countries in the world ranked according to the UN Human Development index which measures development and standard of living through estimates of GDP per capita, life expectancy, and education. There are a total of 197 countries in the world today. 193 of those countries are part of the United Nations. 45 out of the 50 most developed countries in the world below provide UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE for its citizens, essentially medicare for all. The following are the five countries from the list below that do not:

01. Cyprus
02. United Arab Emirates
03. Qatar
04. Bahrain
05. United States

Cyprus is currently In the process of moving to a Universal Healthcare system which will be completed in a few years. That will leave the United States alone with three Arab countries as being the only countries, of the 50 most developed in the world, that do not have Universal HealthCare.

Why does the United States, the wealthiest country in the world and the 3rd wealthiest per captia country, still not provide Universal Healthcare for its citizens? How could anyone say that Universal HealthCare is impossible or too expensive for the United States when nearly all of the 50 most developed countries in the world provide it for its citizens?


50 MOST DEVELOPED COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD RANKED:


01 - Norway
02 - Switzerland
03 - Australia
04 - Ireland
05 - Germany
06 - Iceland
07 - San Marino
08 - Sweden
09 - Singapore
10 - Netherlands
11 - Denmark
12 Canada
13 - United States
14 - United Kingdom
15 - Monaco
16 - Vatican City
17 - Finland
18 - New Zealand
19 - Belgium
20 - Liechtenstein
21 - Japan
22 - Austria
23 - Luxembourg
24 - Israel
25 - Taiwan
26 - South Korea
27 - France
28 - Slovenia
29 - Spain
30 - Czech Republic
31 - Italy
32 - Malta
33 - Estonia
34 - Greece
35 - Cyprus
36 - Poland
37 - United Arab Emirates
38 - Andorra
39 - Lithuania
40 - Qatar
41 - Slovakia
42 - Brunei
43 - Saudi Arabia
44 - Latvia
45 - Portugal
46 - Bahrain
47 - Chile
48 - Hungary
49 - Croatia
50 - Argentina
Now you can post what the income tax rate is in these 'developed' countries right?
Don't like the USA MOVE to Andorra!
 

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