CDZ The 10 commandments which ones do leftys object to?

[Syriusly]

I can only guess number one maybe number two and three ..a serious question which others would a lefty have a problem.with?

1. I am the Lord your God, thou shall have no other gods before me.
2. Thou shall not use the Lord's name in vain.
3. Remember to keep the Sabbath day holy.
4. Honor thy Mother and Father.
5. Thou shall not kill.
6. Thou shall not commit adultery.
7. Thou shall not steal.
8. Thou shall not bear false witness of thy neighbor.
9. Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's wife.
10. Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's goods.

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I object to #1 not because I am a liberal- but because I don't believe in your fairies in the sky.
#2? I don't really have any particular objection to people using your fairies name in vain but I am not a fan of swearing in general.
#3 ? See #1
#4 I absolutely honor my mother and father- great people.
#5 Yeah I am against killing other people
#6 Since adultery in these circumstances means sex outside of marriage.......nah don't agree with that. As a married man though, I do not commit adultery- but I have no problem with unmarried people having sex.
#7 Yeah, I am against stealing.
#8 yeah I am against lying
#9 & #10- I really don't see whether I 'covet' someone's wife or goods is your business.

Anyway- those Jews had some good common sense rules- not all of which I agree with in context of today's society, but most of which I do.

And I don't have a problem with 'graven images'

LOL

 

[Syriusly]

I can only guess number one maybe number two and three ..a serious question which others would a lefty have a problem.with?

1. I am the Lord your God, thou shall have no other gods before me.
2. Thou shall not use the Lord's name in vain.
3. Remember to keep the Sabbath day holy.
4. Honor thy Mother and Father.
5. Thou shall not kill.
6. Thou shall not commit adultery.
7. Thou shall not steal.
8. Thou shall not bear false witness of thy neighbor.
9. Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's wife.
10. Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's goods.

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Number 10 goes right out the window with leftists

Number 8 goes right out the window with rightists

 

[Syriusly]

CNN commits #8 every day, afaik.

Donald Trump commits #8- and #9- every day.

 

[Pogo]

I can only guess number one maybe number two and three ..a serious question which others would a lefty have a problem.with?

1. I am the Lord your God, thou shall have no other gods before me.
2. Thou shall not use the Lord's name in vain.
3. Remember to keep the Sabbath day holy.
4. Honor thy Mother and Father.
5. Thou shall not kill.
6. Thou shall not commit adultery.
7. Thou shall not steal.
8. Thou shall not bear false witness of thy neighbor.
9. Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's wife.
10. Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's goods.

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Personally I object to the one that insists politics has anything to do with religion.

Oh look -- you're a sinner. Repent.


But as far as comparison to politics -- number one is an Authoritarian's wet dream.

How is the 10 commandments politics , or religion if you take out the first three?

It isn't politics at all --- it's religion. They're not related, nor should they be.

This question is teetering on the fallacy of assigning personality types to political ideologies, which is also bogus. "Lefties" -- more correctly "a given lefty" may "object" or "not-object" personally to anything in any religion. Has nothing to do with their politics.

You have a problem with 4~ 10?


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Nope. Other than that, as Carlin notes, 6 and 9 are redundant, except for 9 being the act and 6 being the thought. You can't "will away" a thought. And then 10 is "what keeps the economy going", although I don't think that's reason to dismiss it. We do after all run our economy on the ideal of idolatry.

I haven't been a Christian for I dunno, half a century anyway, so it's not my list to have a problem with.

 

[Pogo]

More specifically, #1 says don't choose or invent a deity more important than the deity that your parents taught you to worship.

That doesn't make sense. What if you (a) decide your parents were wrong, or (b) they didn't teach one?

You can't lock people in to "what has always been". Nothing would ever develop.

#2 says don't worship graven objects.

Way too late for that in this culture, the religion of money. (and pickup trucks, and iPhones and "designer" fashions and flatscreen TVs and a nice lawn etc etc etc)

 

[Wyatt earp]

I can only guess number one maybe number two and three ..a serious question which others would a lefty have a problem.with?

1. I am the Lord your God, thou shall have no other gods before me.
2. Thou shall not use the Lord's name in vain.
3. Remember to keep the Sabbath day holy.
4. Honor thy Mother and Father.
5. Thou shall not kill.
6. Thou shall not commit adultery.
7. Thou shall not steal.
8. Thou shall not bear false witness of thy neighbor.
9. Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's wife.
10. Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's goods.

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Personally I object to the one that insists politics has anything to do with religion.

Oh look -- you're a sinner. Repent.


But as far as comparison to politics -- number one is an Authoritarian's wet dream.

How is the 10 commandments politics , or religion if you take out the first three?

It isn't politics at all --- it's religion. They're not related, nor should they be.

This question is teetering on the fallacy of assigning personality types to political ideologies, which is also bogus. "Lefties" -- more correctly "a given lefty" may "object" or "not-object" personally to anything in any religion. Has nothing to do with their politics.

You have a problem with 4~ 10?


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Nope. Other than that, as Carlin notes, 6 and 9 are redundant, except for 9 being the act and 6 being the thought. You can't "will away" a thought. And then 10 is "what keeps the economy going", although I don't think that's reason to dismiss it. We do after all run our economy on the ideal of idolatry.

I haven't been a Christian for I dunno, half a century anyway, so it's not my list to have a problem with.

Well after 3 pages I don't see anyone really objecting so I don't see what the problem is?



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[Pogo]

I can only guess number one maybe number two and three ..a serious question which others would a lefty have a problem.with?

1. I am the Lord your God, thou shall have no other gods before me.
2. Thou shall not use the Lord's name in vain.
3. Remember to keep the Sabbath day holy.
4. Honor thy Mother and Father.
5. Thou shall not kill.
6. Thou shall not commit adultery.
7. Thou shall not steal.
8. Thou shall not bear false witness of thy neighbor.
9. Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's wife.
10. Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's goods.

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Personally I object to the one that insists politics has anything to do with religion.

Oh look -- you're a sinner. Repent.


But as far as comparison to politics -- number one is an Authoritarian's wet dream.

How is the 10 commandments politics , or religion if you take out the first three?

It isn't politics at all --- it's religion. They're not related, nor should they be.

This question is teetering on the fallacy of assigning personality types to political ideologies, which is also bogus. "Lefties" -- more correctly "a given lefty" may "object" or "not-object" personally to anything in any religion. Has nothing to do with their politics.

You have a problem with 4~ 10?


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Nope. Other than that, as Carlin notes, 6 and 9 are redundant, except for 9 being the act and 6 being the thought. You can't "will away" a thought. And then 10 is "what keeps the economy going", although I don't think that's reason to dismiss it. We do after all run our economy on the ideal of idolatry.

I haven't been a Christian for I dunno, half a century anyway, so it's not my list to have a problem with.

Well after 3 pages I don't see anyone really objecting so I don't see what the problem is?

So ---- what were you expecting?

 

[Syriusly]

Here are the Hindu Yama's- which ones do 'righties' object to?

YAMAS — The 10 Vedic Restraints
Yamas - Guidelines for how we interact with the outer world. Social disciplines to guide us in our relationships with others. The ten yamas are: ahimsa, aatya, aasteya, brahmacharya, kshama, dhriti, daya, arjava, mitahara and shauca.

YAMA 1 — Ahimsa, Non-harming
Practice non-harming, not harming oneself and others by thought, word or deed, even in your dreams. Live a kindly life, revering all beings as expressions of the One Divine energy. Let go of fear and insecurity, the sources of abuse. Knowing that harm caused to others unfailingly returns to oneself, live peacefully with God's creation. Never be a source of dread, pain or injury. Not harming the environment. Not speaking that which, even though truthful, would injure others.

This also includes the principles of ethically correct nutrition and, which is no less important, getting rid of coarse emotions, which are the result of ill thoughts and often lead to rude words and actions.

One can make ethical mistakes, including crimes, as a result of either ignorance, lack of understanding of the universal order and of one’s own place and role in it, or out of indulging in the emotions of spite, condemnation, resentment, anxiety, fear, etc., which are vicious manifestations of the lower self.

YAMA 2 — Satya, Truthfulness
Adhere to truthfulness, not intending to deceive others in our thoughts, as well as our words and actions. Refraining from lying and betraying promises. Speak only that which is true, kind, helpful and necessary. Knowing that deception creates distance, don't keep secrets from family or loved ones. Be fair, accurate and frank in discussions, a stranger to deceit. Admit your failings. Do not engage in slander, gossip or backbiting. Do not bear false witness against another.

YAMA 3 — Asteya, Nonstealing
Uphold the virtue of non stealing, neither thieving, coveting nor failing to repay debt. Control your desires and live within your means. Do not use borrowed resources for unintended purposes or keep them past due. Do not gamble or defraud others. Do not renege on promises. Do not use others' name, words, resources or rights without permission and acknowledgment.

YAMA 4 — Brahmacharya, Divine Conduct
Practice divine conduct, controlling lust by remaining celibate when single and faithful in marriage. Before marriage, use vital energies in study, and after marriage in creating family success. Don't waste the sacred force by promiscuity in thought, word or deed. Be restrained with the opposite sex. Seek holy company. Dress and speak modestly. Shun pornography, sexual humor and violence.

YAMA 5 — Kshama, Patience
Exercise patience, restraining intolerance with people and impatience with circumstances. Be agreeable. Let others behave according to their nature, without adjusting to you. Don't argue, dominate conversations or interrupt others. Don't be in a hurry. Be patient with children and the elderly. Minimize stress by keeping worries at bay. Remain poised in good times and bad.

YAMA 6 — Dhriti, Steadfastness
Foster steadfastness, overcoming nonperseverance, fear, indecision and changeableness. Achieve your goals with a prayer, purpose, plan, persistence and push. Be firm in your decisions. Avoid sloth and procrastination. Develop willpower, courage and industriousness. Overcome obstacles. Never carp or complain. Do not let opposition or fear of failure result in changing strategies.

YAMA 7 — Daya, Compassion
Practice compassion, conquering callous, cruel and insensitive feelings toward all beings. See God everywhere. Be kind to people, animals, plants and the Earth itself. Forgive those who apologize and show true remorse. Foster sympathy for others' needs and suffering. Honor and assist those who are weak, impoverished, aged or in pain. Oppose family abuse and other cruelties.

YAMA 8 — Arjava, Honesty
Maintain honesty, renouncing deception and wrongdoing. Act honorably even in hard times. Obey the laws of your nation and locale. Pay your taxes. Be straightforward in business. Do an honest day's work. Do not bribe or accept bribes. Do not cheat, deceive or circumvent to achieve an end. Be frank with yourself. Face and accept your faults without blaming them on others.

YAMA 9 — Mitahara, Moderate Appetite
Be moderate in appetite, neither eating too much nor consuming meat, fish, shellfish, fowl or eggs. Enjoy fresh, wholesome vegetarian foods that vitalize the body. Avoid junk food. Drink in moderation. Eat at regular times, only when hungry, at a moderate pace, never between meals, in a disturbed atmosphere or when upset. Follow a simple diet, avoiding rich or fancy fare.

YAMA 10 — Shauca, Purity
Uphold the ethic of purity, avoiding impurity in mind, body and speech. Maintain a clean, healthy body. Keep a pure, uncluttered home and workplace. Act virtuously. Keep good company, never mixing with adulterers, thieves or other impure people. Keep away from pornography and violence. Never use harsh, angered or indecent language. Worship devoutly. Meditate daily.

Allow yourself the expression of remorse, being modest and showing shame for misdeeds. Recognize your errors, confess and make amends. Sincerely apologize to those hurt by your words or deeds. Resolve all contention before sleep. Seek out and correct your faults and bad habits. Welcome correction as a means to bettering yourself. Do not boast. Shun pride and pretension.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Here are the Hindu Yama's- which ones do 'righties' object to?

YAMAS — The 10 Vedic Restraints
Yamas - Guidelines for how we interact with the outer world. Social disciplines to guide us in our relationships with others. The ten yamas are: ahimsa, aatya, aasteya, brahmacharya, kshama, dhriti, daya, arjava, mitahara and shauca.

YAMA 1 — Ahimsa, Non-harming
Practice non-harming, not harming oneself and others by thought, word or deed, even in your dreams. Live a kindly life, revering all beings as expressions of the One Divine energy. Let go of fear and insecurity, the sources of abuse. Knowing that harm caused to others unfailingly returns to oneself, live peacefully with God's creation. Never be a source of dread, pain or injury. Not harming the environment. Not speaking that which, even though truthful, would injure others.

This also includes the principles of ethically correct nutrition and, which is no less important, getting rid of coarse emotions, which are the result of ill thoughts and often lead to rude words and actions.

One can make ethical mistakes, including crimes, as a result of either ignorance, lack of understanding of the universal order and of one’s own place and role in it, or out of indulging in the emotions of spite, condemnation, resentment, anxiety, fear, etc., which are vicious manifestations of the lower self.

YAMA 2 — Satya, Truthfulness
Adhere to truthfulness, not intending to deceive others in our thoughts, as well as our words and actions. Refraining from lying and betraying promises. Speak only that which is true, kind, helpful and necessary. Knowing that deception creates distance, don't keep secrets from family or loved ones. Be fair, accurate and frank in discussions, a stranger to deceit. Admit your failings. Do not engage in slander, gossip or backbiting. Do not bear false witness against another.

YAMA 3 — Asteya, Nonstealing
Uphold the virtue of non stealing, neither thieving, coveting nor failing to repay debt. Control your desires and live within your means. Do not use borrowed resources for unintended purposes or keep them past due. Do not gamble or defraud others. Do not renege on promises. Do not use others' name, words, resources or rights without permission and acknowledgment.

YAMA 4 — Brahmacharya, Divine Conduct
Practice divine conduct, controlling lust by remaining celibate when single and faithful in marriage. Before marriage, use vital energies in study, and after marriage in creating family success. Don't waste the sacred force by promiscuity in thought, word or deed. Be restrained with the opposite sex. Seek holy company. Dress and speak modestly. Shun pornography, sexual humor and violence.

YAMA 5 — Kshama, Patience
Exercise patience, restraining intolerance with people and impatience with circumstances. Be agreeable. Let others behave according to their nature, without adjusting to you. Don't argue, dominate conversations or interrupt others. Don't be in a hurry. Be patient with children and the elderly. Minimize stress by keeping worries at bay. Remain poised in good times and bad.

YAMA 6 — Dhriti, Steadfastness
Foster steadfastness, overcoming nonperseverance, fear, indecision and changeableness. Achieve your goals with a prayer, purpose, plan, persistence and push. Be firm in your decisions. Avoid sloth and procrastination. Develop willpower, courage and industriousness. Overcome obstacles. Never carp or complain. Do not let opposition or fear of failure result in changing strategies.

YAMA 7 — Daya, Compassion
Practice compassion, conquering callous, cruel and insensitive feelings toward all beings. See God everywhere. Be kind to people, animals, plants and the Earth itself. Forgive those who apologize and show true remorse. Foster sympathy for others' needs and suffering. Honor and assist those who are weak, impoverished, aged or in pain. Oppose family abuse and other cruelties.

YAMA 8 — Arjava, Honesty
Maintain honesty, renouncing deception and wrongdoing. Act honorably even in hard times. Obey the laws of your nation and locale. Pay your taxes. Be straightforward in business. Do an honest day's work. Do not bribe or accept bribes. Do not cheat, deceive or circumvent to achieve an end. Be frank with yourself. Face and accept your faults without blaming them on others.

YAMA 9 — Mitahara, Moderate Appetite
Be moderate in appetite, neither eating too much nor consuming meat, fish, shellfish, fowl or eggs. Enjoy fresh, wholesome vegetarian foods that vitalize the body. Avoid junk food. Drink in moderation. Eat at regular times, only when hungry, at a moderate pace, never between meals, in a disturbed atmosphere or when upset. Follow a simple diet, avoiding rich or fancy fare.

YAMA 10 — Shauca, Purity
Uphold the ethic of purity, avoiding impurity in mind, body and speech. Maintain a clean, healthy body. Keep a pure, uncluttered home and workplace. Act virtuously. Keep good company, never mixing with adulterers, thieves or other impure people. Keep away from pornography and violence. Never use harsh, angered or indecent language. Worship devoutly. Meditate daily.

Allow yourself the expression of remorse, being modest and showing shame for misdeeds. Recognize your errors, confess and make amends. Sincerely apologize to those hurt by your words or deeds. Resolve all contention before sleep. Seek out and correct your faults and bad habits. Welcome correction as a means to bettering yourself. Do not boast. Shun pride and pretension.

Fine and dandy if they took a chance and set acoss the Atlantic ocean to found the new world , but they didnt they held on to the coat tails of the Christians , came latter to reap the fruits of their success.


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That's what the left does even in the modern age...let someone else spill blood and say it's a victory for them ..

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[Pogo]

Here are the Hindu Yama's- which ones do 'righties' object to?

YAMAS — The 10 Vedic Restraints
Yamas - Guidelines for how we interact with the outer world. Social disciplines to guide us in our relationships with others. The ten yamas are: ahimsa, aatya, aasteya, brahmacharya, kshama, dhriti, daya, arjava, mitahara and shauca.

YAMA 1 — Ahimsa, Non-harming
Practice non-harming, not harming oneself and others by thought, word or deed, even in your dreams. Live a kindly life, revering all beings as expressions of the One Divine energy. Let go of fear and insecurity, the sources of abuse. Knowing that harm caused to others unfailingly returns to oneself, live peacefully with God's creation. Never be a source of dread, pain or injury. Not harming the environment. Not speaking that which, even though truthful, would injure others.

This also includes the principles of ethically correct nutrition and, which is no less important, getting rid of coarse emotions, which are the result of ill thoughts and often lead to rude words and actions.

One can make ethical mistakes, including crimes, as a result of either ignorance, lack of understanding of the universal order and of one’s own place and role in it, or out of indulging in the emotions of spite, condemnation, resentment, anxiety, fear, etc., which are vicious manifestations of the lower self.

YAMA 2 — Satya, Truthfulness
Adhere to truthfulness, not intending to deceive others in our thoughts, as well as our words and actions. Refraining from lying and betraying promises. Speak only that which is true, kind, helpful and necessary. Knowing that deception creates distance, don't keep secrets from family or loved ones. Be fair, accurate and frank in discussions, a stranger to deceit. Admit your failings. Do not engage in slander, gossip or backbiting. Do not bear false witness against another.

YAMA 3 — Asteya, Nonstealing
Uphold the virtue of non stealing, neither thieving, coveting nor failing to repay debt. Control your desires and live within your means. Do not use borrowed resources for unintended purposes or keep them past due. Do not gamble or defraud others. Do not renege on promises. Do not use others' name, words, resources or rights without permission and acknowledgment.

YAMA 4 — Brahmacharya, Divine Conduct
Practice divine conduct, controlling lust by remaining celibate when single and faithful in marriage. Before marriage, use vital energies in study, and after marriage in creating family success. Don't waste the sacred force by promiscuity in thought, word or deed. Be restrained with the opposite sex. Seek holy company. Dress and speak modestly. Shun pornography, sexual humor and violence.

YAMA 5 — Kshama, Patience
Exercise patience, restraining intolerance with people and impatience with circumstances. Be agreeable. Let others behave according to their nature, without adjusting to you. Don't argue, dominate conversations or interrupt others. Don't be in a hurry. Be patient with children and the elderly. Minimize stress by keeping worries at bay. Remain poised in good times and bad.

YAMA 6 — Dhriti, Steadfastness
Foster steadfastness, overcoming nonperseverance, fear, indecision and changeableness. Achieve your goals with a prayer, purpose, plan, persistence and push. Be firm in your decisions. Avoid sloth and procrastination. Develop willpower, courage and industriousness. Overcome obstacles. Never carp or complain. Do not let opposition or fear of failure result in changing strategies.

YAMA 7 — Daya, Compassion
Practice compassion, conquering callous, cruel and insensitive feelings toward all beings. See God everywhere. Be kind to people, animals, plants and the Earth itself. Forgive those who apologize and show true remorse. Foster sympathy for others' needs and suffering. Honor and assist those who are weak, impoverished, aged or in pain. Oppose family abuse and other cruelties.

YAMA 8 — Arjava, Honesty
Maintain honesty, renouncing deception and wrongdoing. Act honorably even in hard times. Obey the laws of your nation and locale. Pay your taxes. Be straightforward in business. Do an honest day's work. Do not bribe or accept bribes. Do not cheat, deceive or circumvent to achieve an end. Be frank with yourself. Face and accept your faults without blaming them on others.

YAMA 9 — Mitahara, Moderate Appetite
Be moderate in appetite, neither eating too much nor consuming meat, fish, shellfish, fowl or eggs. Enjoy fresh, wholesome vegetarian foods that vitalize the body. Avoid junk food. Drink in moderation. Eat at regular times, only when hungry, at a moderate pace, never between meals, in a disturbed atmosphere or when upset. Follow a simple diet, avoiding rich or fancy fare.

YAMA 10 — Shauca, Purity
Uphold the ethic of purity, avoiding impurity in mind, body and speech. Maintain a clean, healthy body. Keep a pure, uncluttered home and workplace. Act virtuously. Keep good company, never mixing with adulterers, thieves or other impure people. Keep away from pornography and violence. Never use harsh, angered or indecent language. Worship devoutly. Meditate daily.

Allow yourself the expression of remorse, being modest and showing shame for misdeeds. Recognize your errors, confess and make amends. Sincerely apologize to those hurt by your words or deeds. Resolve all contention before sleep. Seek out and correct your faults and bad habits. Welcome correction as a means to bettering yourself. Do not boast. Shun pride and pretension.

That's a fine set of guidelines, if a bit wordy. I think I'd have the most challenge with number 9. I like eggs.

And I can't help noticing that Rump fails miserably on all ten.

 

[Pogo]

Here are the Hindu Yama's- which ones do 'righties' object to?

YAMAS — The 10 Vedic Restraints
Yamas - Guidelines for how we interact with the outer world. Social disciplines to guide us in our relationships with others. The ten yamas are: ahimsa, aatya, aasteya, brahmacharya, kshama, dhriti, daya, arjava, mitahara and shauca.

YAMA 1 — Ahimsa, Non-harming
Practice non-harming, not harming oneself and others by thought, word or deed, even in your dreams. Live a kindly life, revering all beings as expressions of the One Divine energy. Let go of fear and insecurity, the sources of abuse. Knowing that harm caused to others unfailingly returns to oneself, live peacefully with God's creation. Never be a source of dread, pain or injury. Not harming the environment. Not speaking that which, even though truthful, would injure others.

This also includes the principles of ethically correct nutrition and, which is no less important, getting rid of coarse emotions, which are the result of ill thoughts and often lead to rude words and actions.

One can make ethical mistakes, including crimes, as a result of either ignorance, lack of understanding of the universal order and of one’s own place and role in it, or out of indulging in the emotions of spite, condemnation, resentment, anxiety, fear, etc., which are vicious manifestations of the lower self.

YAMA 2 — Satya, Truthfulness
Adhere to truthfulness, not intending to deceive others in our thoughts, as well as our words and actions. Refraining from lying and betraying promises. Speak only that which is true, kind, helpful and necessary. Knowing that deception creates distance, don't keep secrets from family or loved ones. Be fair, accurate and frank in discussions, a stranger to deceit. Admit your failings. Do not engage in slander, gossip or backbiting. Do not bear false witness against another.

YAMA 3 — Asteya, Nonstealing
Uphold the virtue of non stealing, neither thieving, coveting nor failing to repay debt. Control your desires and live within your means. Do not use borrowed resources for unintended purposes or keep them past due. Do not gamble or defraud others. Do not renege on promises. Do not use others' name, words, resources or rights without permission and acknowledgment.

YAMA 4 — Brahmacharya, Divine Conduct
Practice divine conduct, controlling lust by remaining celibate when single and faithful in marriage. Before marriage, use vital energies in study, and after marriage in creating family success. Don't waste the sacred force by promiscuity in thought, word or deed. Be restrained with the opposite sex. Seek holy company. Dress and speak modestly. Shun pornography, sexual humor and violence.

YAMA 5 — Kshama, Patience
Exercise patience, restraining intolerance with people and impatience with circumstances. Be agreeable. Let others behave according to their nature, without adjusting to you. Don't argue, dominate conversations or interrupt others. Don't be in a hurry. Be patient with children and the elderly. Minimize stress by keeping worries at bay. Remain poised in good times and bad.

YAMA 6 — Dhriti, Steadfastness
Foster steadfastness, overcoming nonperseverance, fear, indecision and changeableness. Achieve your goals with a prayer, purpose, plan, persistence and push. Be firm in your decisions. Avoid sloth and procrastination. Develop willpower, courage and industriousness. Overcome obstacles. Never carp or complain. Do not let opposition or fear of failure result in changing strategies.

YAMA 7 — Daya, Compassion
Practice compassion, conquering callous, cruel and insensitive feelings toward all beings. See God everywhere. Be kind to people, animals, plants and the Earth itself. Forgive those who apologize and show true remorse. Foster sympathy for others' needs and suffering. Honor and assist those who are weak, impoverished, aged or in pain. Oppose family abuse and other cruelties.

YAMA 8 — Arjava, Honesty
Maintain honesty, renouncing deception and wrongdoing. Act honorably even in hard times. Obey the laws of your nation and locale. Pay your taxes. Be straightforward in business. Do an honest day's work. Do not bribe or accept bribes. Do not cheat, deceive or circumvent to achieve an end. Be frank with yourself. Face and accept your faults without blaming them on others.

YAMA 9 — Mitahara, Moderate Appetite
Be moderate in appetite, neither eating too much nor consuming meat, fish, shellfish, fowl or eggs. Enjoy fresh, wholesome vegetarian foods that vitalize the body. Avoid junk food. Drink in moderation. Eat at regular times, only when hungry, at a moderate pace, never between meals, in a disturbed atmosphere or when upset. Follow a simple diet, avoiding rich or fancy fare.

YAMA 10 — Shauca, Purity
Uphold the ethic of purity, avoiding impurity in mind, body and speech. Maintain a clean, healthy body. Keep a pure, uncluttered home and workplace. Act virtuously. Keep good company, never mixing with adulterers, thieves or other impure people. Keep away from pornography and violence. Never use harsh, angered or indecent language. Worship devoutly. Meditate daily.

Allow yourself the expression of remorse, being modest and showing shame for misdeeds. Recognize your errors, confess and make amends. Sincerely apologize to those hurt by your words or deeds. Resolve all contention before sleep. Seek out and correct your faults and bad habits. Welcome correction as a means to bettering yourself. Do not boast. Shun pride and pretension.

Fine and dandy if they took a chance and set acoss the Atlantic ocean to found the new world , but they didnt they held on to the coat tails of the Christians , came latter to reap the fruits of their success.


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That's what the left does even in the modern age...let someone else spill blood and say it's a victory for them ..

That doesn't even make any sense.

 

[deanrd]

I can only guess number one maybe number two and three ..a serious question which others would a lefty have a problem.with?

1. I am the Lord your God, thou shall have no other gods before me.
2. Thou shall not use the Lord's name in vain.
3. Remember to keep the Sabbath day holy.
4. Honor thy Mother and Father.
5. Thou shall not kill.
6. Thou shall not commit adultery.
7. Thou shall not steal.
8. Thou shall not bear false witness of thy neighbor.
9. Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's wife.
10. Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's goods.

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I think the better question is why do right wingers pretend to promote them, but clearly don't follow them?

 

[Wyatt earp]

Here are the Hindu Yama's- which ones do 'righties' object to?

YAMAS — The 10 Vedic Restraints
Yamas - Guidelines for how we interact with the outer world. Social disciplines to guide us in our relationships with others. The ten yamas are: ahimsa, aatya, aasteya, brahmacharya, kshama, dhriti, daya, arjava, mitahara and shauca.

YAMA 1 — Ahimsa, Non-harming
Practice non-harming, not harming oneself and others by thought, word or deed, even in your dreams. Live a kindly life, revering all beings as expressions of the One Divine energy. Let go of fear and insecurity, the sources of abuse. Knowing that harm caused to others unfailingly returns to oneself, live peacefully with God's creation. Never be a source of dread, pain or injury. Not harming the environment. Not speaking that which, even though truthful, would injure others.

This also includes the principles of ethically correct nutrition and, which is no less important, getting rid of coarse emotions, which are the result of ill thoughts and often lead to rude words and actions.

One can make ethical mistakes, including crimes, as a result of either ignorance, lack of understanding of the universal order and of one’s own place and role in it, or out of indulging in the emotions of spite, condemnation, resentment, anxiety, fear, etc., which are vicious manifestations of the lower self.

YAMA 2 — Satya, Truthfulness
Adhere to truthfulness, not intending to deceive others in our thoughts, as well as our words and actions. Refraining from lying and betraying promises. Speak only that which is true, kind, helpful and necessary. Knowing that deception creates distance, don't keep secrets from family or loved ones. Be fair, accurate and frank in discussions, a stranger to deceit. Admit your failings. Do not engage in slander, gossip or backbiting. Do not bear false witness against another.

YAMA 3 — Asteya, Nonstealing
Uphold the virtue of non stealing, neither thieving, coveting nor failing to repay debt. Control your desires and live within your means. Do not use borrowed resources for unintended purposes or keep them past due. Do not gamble or defraud others. Do not renege on promises. Do not use others' name, words, resources or rights without permission and acknowledgment.

YAMA 4 — Brahmacharya, Divine Conduct
Practice divine conduct, controlling lust by remaining celibate when single and faithful in marriage. Before marriage, use vital energies in study, and after marriage in creating family success. Don't waste the sacred force by promiscuity in thought, word or deed. Be restrained with the opposite sex. Seek holy company. Dress and speak modestly. Shun pornography, sexual humor and violence.

YAMA 5 — Kshama, Patience
Exercise patience, restraining intolerance with people and impatience with circumstances. Be agreeable. Let others behave according to their nature, without adjusting to you. Don't argue, dominate conversations or interrupt others. Don't be in a hurry. Be patient with children and the elderly. Minimize stress by keeping worries at bay. Remain poised in good times and bad.

YAMA 6 — Dhriti, Steadfastness
Foster steadfastness, overcoming nonperseverance, fear, indecision and changeableness. Achieve your goals with a prayer, purpose, plan, persistence and push. Be firm in your decisions. Avoid sloth and procrastination. Develop willpower, courage and industriousness. Overcome obstacles. Never carp or complain. Do not let opposition or fear of failure result in changing strategies.

YAMA 7 — Daya, Compassion
Practice compassion, conquering callous, cruel and insensitive feelings toward all beings. See God everywhere. Be kind to people, animals, plants and the Earth itself. Forgive those who apologize and show true remorse. Foster sympathy for others' needs and suffering. Honor and assist those who are weak, impoverished, aged or in pain. Oppose family abuse and other cruelties.

YAMA 8 — Arjava, Honesty
Maintain honesty, renouncing deception and wrongdoing. Act honorably even in hard times. Obey the laws of your nation and locale. Pay your taxes. Be straightforward in business. Do an honest day's work. Do not bribe or accept bribes. Do not cheat, deceive or circumvent to achieve an end. Be frank with yourself. Face and accept your faults without blaming them on others.

YAMA 9 — Mitahara, Moderate Appetite
Be moderate in appetite, neither eating too much nor consuming meat, fish, shellfish, fowl or eggs. Enjoy fresh, wholesome vegetarian foods that vitalize the body. Avoid junk food. Drink in moderation. Eat at regular times, only when hungry, at a moderate pace, never between meals, in a disturbed atmosphere or when upset. Follow a simple diet, avoiding rich or fancy fare.

YAMA 10 — Shauca, Purity
Uphold the ethic of purity, avoiding impurity in mind, body and speech. Maintain a clean, healthy body. Keep a pure, uncluttered home and workplace. Act virtuously. Keep good company, never mixing with adulterers, thieves or other impure people. Keep away from pornography and violence. Never use harsh, angered or indecent language. Worship devoutly. Meditate daily.

Allow yourself the expression of remorse, being modest and showing shame for misdeeds. Recognize your errors, confess and make amends. Sincerely apologize to those hurt by your words or deeds. Resolve all contention before sleep. Seek out and correct your faults and bad habits. Welcome correction as a means to bettering yourself. Do not boast. Shun pride and pretension.

Fine and dandy if they took a chance and set acoss the Atlantic ocean to found the new world , but they didnt they held on to the coat tails of the Christians , came latter to reap the fruits of their success.


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That's what the left does even in the modern age...let someone else spill blood and say it's a victory for them ..

That doesn't even make any sense.

Makes a lot of sense.Pogo just look at your history on here..you are a lefty Northerner who moved to NC..


You wanted the fruits of every one else's hard work and freedom.

 

[Wyatt earp]

I can only guess number one maybe number two and three ..a serious question which others would a lefty have a problem.with?

1. I am the Lord your God, thou shall have no other gods before me.
2. Thou shall not use the Lord's name in vain.
3. Remember to keep the Sabbath day holy.
4. Honor thy Mother and Father.
5. Thou shall not kill.
6. Thou shall not commit adultery.
7. Thou shall not steal.
8. Thou shall not bear false witness of thy neighbor.
9. Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's wife.
10. Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's goods.

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I think the better question is why do right wingers pretend to promote them, but clearly don't follow them?

We do as much as humanly possible, only the left trys to justify their bad behavior and despise them so it appears

 

[Pogo]

Here are the Hindu Yama's- which ones do 'righties' object to?

YAMAS — The 10 Vedic Restraints
Yamas - Guidelines for how we interact with the outer world. Social disciplines to guide us in our relationships with others. The ten yamas are: ahimsa, aatya, aasteya, brahmacharya, kshama, dhriti, daya, arjava, mitahara and shauca.

YAMA 1 — Ahimsa, Non-harming
Practice non-harming, not harming oneself and others by thought, word or deed, even in your dreams. Live a kindly life, revering all beings as expressions of the One Divine energy. Let go of fear and insecurity, the sources of abuse. Knowing that harm caused to others unfailingly returns to oneself, live peacefully with God's creation. Never be a source of dread, pain or injury. Not harming the environment. Not speaking that which, even though truthful, would injure others.

This also includes the principles of ethically correct nutrition and, which is no less important, getting rid of coarse emotions, which are the result of ill thoughts and often lead to rude words and actions.

One can make ethical mistakes, including crimes, as a result of either ignorance, lack of understanding of the universal order and of one’s own place and role in it, or out of indulging in the emotions of spite, condemnation, resentment, anxiety, fear, etc., which are vicious manifestations of the lower self.

YAMA 2 — Satya, Truthfulness
Adhere to truthfulness, not intending to deceive others in our thoughts, as well as our words and actions. Refraining from lying and betraying promises. Speak only that which is true, kind, helpful and necessary. Knowing that deception creates distance, don't keep secrets from family or loved ones. Be fair, accurate and frank in discussions, a stranger to deceit. Admit your failings. Do not engage in slander, gossip or backbiting. Do not bear false witness against another.

YAMA 3 — Asteya, Nonstealing
Uphold the virtue of non stealing, neither thieving, coveting nor failing to repay debt. Control your desires and live within your means. Do not use borrowed resources for unintended purposes or keep them past due. Do not gamble or defraud others. Do not renege on promises. Do not use others' name, words, resources or rights without permission and acknowledgment.

YAMA 4 — Brahmacharya, Divine Conduct
Practice divine conduct, controlling lust by remaining celibate when single and faithful in marriage. Before marriage, use vital energies in study, and after marriage in creating family success. Don't waste the sacred force by promiscuity in thought, word or deed. Be restrained with the opposite sex. Seek holy company. Dress and speak modestly. Shun pornography, sexual humor and violence.

YAMA 5 — Kshama, Patience
Exercise patience, restraining intolerance with people and impatience with circumstances. Be agreeable. Let others behave according to their nature, without adjusting to you. Don't argue, dominate conversations or interrupt others. Don't be in a hurry. Be patient with children and the elderly. Minimize stress by keeping worries at bay. Remain poised in good times and bad.

YAMA 6 — Dhriti, Steadfastness
Foster steadfastness, overcoming nonperseverance, fear, indecision and changeableness. Achieve your goals with a prayer, purpose, plan, persistence and push. Be firm in your decisions. Avoid sloth and procrastination. Develop willpower, courage and industriousness. Overcome obstacles. Never carp or complain. Do not let opposition or fear of failure result in changing strategies.

YAMA 7 — Daya, Compassion
Practice compassion, conquering callous, cruel and insensitive feelings toward all beings. See God everywhere. Be kind to people, animals, plants and the Earth itself. Forgive those who apologize and show true remorse. Foster sympathy for others' needs and suffering. Honor and assist those who are weak, impoverished, aged or in pain. Oppose family abuse and other cruelties.

YAMA 8 — Arjava, Honesty
Maintain honesty, renouncing deception and wrongdoing. Act honorably even in hard times. Obey the laws of your nation and locale. Pay your taxes. Be straightforward in business. Do an honest day's work. Do not bribe or accept bribes. Do not cheat, deceive or circumvent to achieve an end. Be frank with yourself. Face and accept your faults without blaming them on others.

YAMA 9 — Mitahara, Moderate Appetite
Be moderate in appetite, neither eating too much nor consuming meat, fish, shellfish, fowl or eggs. Enjoy fresh, wholesome vegetarian foods that vitalize the body. Avoid junk food. Drink in moderation. Eat at regular times, only when hungry, at a moderate pace, never between meals, in a disturbed atmosphere or when upset. Follow a simple diet, avoiding rich or fancy fare.

YAMA 10 — Shauca, Purity
Uphold the ethic of purity, avoiding impurity in mind, body and speech. Maintain a clean, healthy body. Keep a pure, uncluttered home and workplace. Act virtuously. Keep good company, never mixing with adulterers, thieves or other impure people. Keep away from pornography and violence. Never use harsh, angered or indecent language. Worship devoutly. Meditate daily.

Allow yourself the expression of remorse, being modest and showing shame for misdeeds. Recognize your errors, confess and make amends. Sincerely apologize to those hurt by your words or deeds. Resolve all contention before sleep. Seek out and correct your faults and bad habits. Welcome correction as a means to bettering yourself. Do not boast. Shun pride and pretension.

Fine and dandy if they took a chance and set acoss the Atlantic ocean to found the new world , but they didnt they held on to the coat tails of the Christians , came latter to reap the fruits of their success.


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That's what the left does even in the modern age...let someone else spill blood and say it's a victory for them ..

That doesn't even make any sense.

Makes a lot of sense.Pogo just look at your history on here..you are a lefty Northerner who moved to NC..


You wanted the fruits of every one else's hard work and freedom.

Number one, I moved here from New Orleans. Number two, you know absolute zero about what 'fruits I want', other than the low-hanging ones here. And number three, the post you quoted cited a list of Yamas, which has nothing to do with me, or "fruits" or "blood" or the "Atlantic Ocean". So no, it makes no sense.

 

[Pogo]

I can only guess number one maybe number two and three ..a serious question which others would a lefty have a problem.with?

1. I am the Lord your God, thou shall have no other gods before me.
2. Thou shall not use the Lord's name in vain.
3. Remember to keep the Sabbath day holy.
4. Honor thy Mother and Father.
5. Thou shall not kill.
6. Thou shall not commit adultery.
7. Thou shall not steal.
8. Thou shall not bear false witness of thy neighbor.
9. Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's wife.
10. Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's goods.

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I think the better question is why do right wingers pretend to promote them, but clearly don't follow them?

We do as much as humanly possible, only the left trys to justify their bad behavior and despise them so it appears

Obviously number 8 being a glaring exception for you.

 

[2aguy]

I can only guess number one maybe number two and three ..a serious question which others would a lefty have a problem.with?

1. I am the Lord your God, thou shall have no other gods before me.
2. Thou shall not use the Lord's name in vain.
3. Remember to keep the Sabbath day holy.
4. Honor thy Mother and Father.
5. Thou shall not kill.
6. Thou shall not commit adultery.
7. Thou shall not steal.
8. Thou shall not bear false witness of thy neighbor.
9. Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's wife.
10. Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's goods.

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All of them.

 

[yiostheoy]

More specifically, #1 says don't choose or invent a deity more important than the deity that your parents taught you to worship.

That doesn't make sense. What if you (a) decide your parents were wrong, or (b) they didn't teach one?

You can't lock people in to "what has always been". Nothing would ever develop.

#2 says don't worship graven objects.

Way too late for that in this culture, the religion of money. (and pickup trucks, and iPhones and "designer" fashions and flatscreen TVs and a nice lawn etc etc etc)

Well that's what the 10 say.

You don't have to like it.

Liking has got nothing to do with it.

 

[yiostheoy]

Well, number 4 is a problem. It may need to be rephrased to Honor your parental partners. Could be two men or two women or some other combination.

#4 is honor the Sabbath.

#5 is honor your father and mother.

Not the way we learned 'em.

You need to read it in Hebrew to learn what they actually say and what they are in order.

If you don't do this yourself then you will never really know the 10 commandments.

If you don't take my word for it then you need to start leaning Hebrew yourself.

 

[yiostheoy]

Well, number 4 is a problem. It may need to be rephrased to Honor your parental partners. Could be two men or two women or some other combination.

#4 is honor the Sabbath.

#5 is honor your father and mother.

I was using Bear's list. I didn't verify the order......thanks.

Same answer -- you need to read it in Hebrew yourself or else you need to study the wiki on this.