Arianrhod
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So Obama claimed we would save money with Obozocare...
There's no such thing as Obozocare. Get back to me when you've figured that out and I'll take the rest of your post seriously.
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So Obama claimed we would save money with Obozocare...
Then run away from information about the failed program...So Obama claimed we would save money with Obozocare...
There's no such thing as Obozocare. Get back to me when you've figured that out and I'll take the rest of your post seriously.
Then run away from information about the failed program...So Obama claimed we would save money with Obozocare...
There's no such thing as Obozocare. Get back to me when you've figured that out and I'll take the rest of your post seriously.
I posted links to actual statements on video by the Idiot that wrote the law, and you can't refute them...Then run away from information about the failed program...So Obama claimed we would save money with Obozocare...
There's no such thing as Obozocare. Get back to me when you've figured that out and I'll take the rest of your post seriously.
You're citing something that doesn't exist. I'm not obligated to buy into your fantasies.
If you want to talk about Obamacare, then do so.
Obozocare is a scam...
Great!!!Obozocare is a scam...
There is no such thing as Obozocare.
Great!!!Obozocare is a scam...
There is no such thing as Obozocare.
When do I get my refund?
Then run away from information about the failed program...So Obama claimed we would save money with Obozocare...
There's no such thing as Obozocare. Get back to me when you've figured that out and I'll take the rest of your post seriously.
You're citing something that doesn't exist. I'm not obligated to buy into your fantasies.
If you want to talk about Obamacare, then do so.
It doesn't matter what nickname we use for it... It's still the same failing trash law.Great!!!Obozocare is a scam...
There is no such thing as Obozocare.
When do I get my refund?
From something that doesn't exist? How long did it take your last fantasy to come true?
Then run away from information about the failed program...So Obama claimed we would save money with Obozocare...
There's no such thing as Obozocare. Get back to me when you've figured that out and I'll take the rest of your post seriously.
You're citing something that doesn't exist. I'm not obligated to buy into your fantasies.
If you want to talk about Obamacare, then do so.
You must know that 'ObamaCare' isn't the name of the bill....he's just as correct as you are.
It doesn't matter what nickname we use for it... It's still the same failing trash law.
Then run away from information about the failed program...So Obama claimed we would save money with Obozocare...
There's no such thing as Obozocare. Get back to me when you've figured that out and I'll take the rest of your post seriously.
You're citing something that doesn't exist. I'm not obligated to buy into your fantasies.
If you want to talk about Obamacare, then do so.
You must know that 'ObamaCare' isn't the name of the bill....he's just as correct as you are.
It's become the popular reference so, no, he's not correct. "Obamacare" is even the title of this forum, because clearly "the PPACA" would earn a "Duh, whut?" from the majority of those posting here.
Then run away from information about the failed program...There's no such thing as Obozocare. Get back to me when you've figured that out and I'll take the rest of your post seriously.
You're citing something that doesn't exist. I'm not obligated to buy into your fantasies.
If you want to talk about Obamacare, then do so.
You must know that 'ObamaCare' isn't the name of the bill....he's just as correct as you are.
It's become the popular reference so, no, he's not correct. "Obamacare" is even the title of this forum, because clearly "the PPACA" would earn a "Duh, whut?" from the majority of those posting here.
Clearly, he's making his opinion known.....as are you.
The difference is that his is closer to correct.
You sound hurt. Asking people to read that monstrosity of a law proves you're nothing but a mindless goose stepping obama turd polisher.So Obama claimed we would save money with Obozocare...
There's no such thing as Obozocare. Get back to me when you've figured that out and I'll take the rest of your post seriously.
Then run away from information about the failed program...
You're citing something that doesn't exist. I'm not obligated to buy into your fantasies.
If you want to talk about Obamacare, then do so.
You must know that 'ObamaCare' isn't the name of the bill....he's just as correct as you are.
It's become the popular reference so, no, he's not correct. "Obamacare" is even the title of this forum, because clearly "the PPACA" would earn a "Duh, whut?" from the majority of those posting here.
Clearly, he's making his opinion known.....as are you.
The difference is that his is closer to correct.
How so?
You're citing something that doesn't exist. I'm not obligated to buy into your fantasies.
If you want to talk about Obamacare, then do so.
You must know that 'ObamaCare' isn't the name of the bill....he's just as correct as you are.
It's become the popular reference so, no, he's not correct. "Obamacare" is even the title of this forum, because clearly "the PPACA" would earn a "Duh, whut?" from the majority of those posting here.
Clearly, he's making his opinion known.....as are you.
The difference is that his is closer to correct.
How so?
Hint:
"Lie of the Year: 'If you like your health care plan, you can keep it'"
[VIDEO]Lie of the Year: 'If you like your health care plan, you can keep it'
Bet you didn't know that there was no need for ObamaCare....other than government control of 17% of the economy.
•Quinnipiac University, Sept. 2009. "How satisfied are you with your health insurance plan?" 54 percent very satisfied, 34 percent somewhat.Total: 88 percent satisfaction.
•Quinnipiac University, June 2009. "How satisfied are you with your health insurance plan?" 49 percent very satisfied, 36 somewhat satisfied.Total: 85 percent satisfaction.
•ABC News/Washington Post, June 2009. "For each specific item I name, please tell me whether you are very satisfied with it, somewhat satisfied, somewhat dissatisfied or very dissatisfied. ... Your health insurance coverage." 42 percent very satisfied, 39 percent somewhat satisfied. Total: 81 percent satisfaction.
•Mathew Greenwald & Associates for the Employee Benefit Research Institute, May 2009. "Overall, how satisfied are you with your current health insurance plan?" 21 percent extremely satisfied, 37 percent very satisfied, 30 percent somewhat satisfied.Total: 88 percent satisfaction.
•ABC News/Washington Post, June 2009. "For each specific item I name, please tell me whether you are very satisfied with it, somewhat satisfied, somewhat dissatisfied or very dissatisfied. ... Your health insurance coverage." 42 percent very satisfied, 39 percent somewhat satisfied.Total: 81 percent satisfaction.
•Mathew Greenwald & Associates for the Employee Benefit Research Institute, Aug. 2008. "Please rate your satisfaction with each of the following aspects of your health care. ... Quality of health care I receive through my (health insurance) plan." 31 percent extremely satisfied, 41 percent very satisfied, 23 somewhat satisfied.Total: 95 percent satisfaction.
•Mathew Greenwald & Associates for the Employee Benefit Research Institute, Aug. 2008. "Please rate your satisfaction with each of the following aspects of your health care. ... Overall satisfaction with my health (insurance) care plan." 23 percent extremely satisfied, 38 percent very satisfied, 30 percent somewhat satisfied.Total: 91 percent satisfaction.
•Mathew Greenwald & Associates for the Employee Benefit Research Institute, May 2008. "Overall, how satisfied are you with your current health insurance plan?" 17 percent extremely satisfied, 36 percent very satisfied, 33 percent somewhat satisfied.Total: 86 percent satisfaction.
If you average these eight scores, the total rate of satisfaction is 87 percent. In all but one poll, the satisfaction level was below Will's stated level of 95 percent.
One poll, taken five months before Obama was inaugurated, did come up with 95 percent satisfaction. But alone among these eight polls, that survey asked participants about the "quality of health care I receive through my (health insurance) plan." While we decided that the wording was close enough to merit inclusion on our list, the modest difference in satisfaction levels may stem from the way the question was phrased. Many people feel more warmly toward their doctors than they do toward their insurers.
So, while one poll with unique wording pegged satisfaction at 95 percent, the average of all relevant polls over a two-year period was eight points lower than what Will cited. However, Will is correct that the levels of satisfaction with one's own health insurance are consistently high. Indeed, they're extraordinarily high, when one considers how rarely surveys find such high levels of agreement among Americans. Since Will portrayed the larger point accurately, even while modestly overstating the number, we rate his comment Mostly True.
Will says that 95 percent of people with health insurance are satisfied with it
"...levels of satisfaction with one's own health insurance are consistently high."
Yup....Obi was correct: you, simply a follower.
I can call it whatever I want.You must know that 'ObamaCare' isn't the name of the bill....he's just as correct as you are.
It's become the popular reference so, no, he's not correct. "Obamacare" is even the title of this forum, because clearly "the PPACA" would earn a "Duh, whut?" from the majority of those posting here.
Clearly, he's making his opinion known.....as are you.
The difference is that his is closer to correct.
How so?
Hint:
"Lie of the Year: 'If you like your health care plan, you can keep it'"
[VIDEO]Lie of the Year: 'If you like your health care plan, you can keep it'
Bet you didn't know that there was no need for ObamaCare....other than government control of 17% of the economy.
•Quinnipiac University, Sept. 2009. "How satisfied are you with your health insurance plan?" 54 percent very satisfied, 34 percent somewhat.Total: 88 percent satisfaction.
•Quinnipiac University, June 2009. "How satisfied are you with your health insurance plan?" 49 percent very satisfied, 36 somewhat satisfied.Total: 85 percent satisfaction.
•ABC News/Washington Post, June 2009. "For each specific item I name, please tell me whether you are very satisfied with it, somewhat satisfied, somewhat dissatisfied or very dissatisfied. ... Your health insurance coverage." 42 percent very satisfied, 39 percent somewhat satisfied. Total: 81 percent satisfaction.
•Mathew Greenwald & Associates for the Employee Benefit Research Institute, May 2009. "Overall, how satisfied are you with your current health insurance plan?" 21 percent extremely satisfied, 37 percent very satisfied, 30 percent somewhat satisfied.Total: 88 percent satisfaction.
•ABC News/Washington Post, June 2009. "For each specific item I name, please tell me whether you are very satisfied with it, somewhat satisfied, somewhat dissatisfied or very dissatisfied. ... Your health insurance coverage." 42 percent very satisfied, 39 percent somewhat satisfied.Total: 81 percent satisfaction.
•Mathew Greenwald & Associates for the Employee Benefit Research Institute, Aug. 2008. "Please rate your satisfaction with each of the following aspects of your health care. ... Quality of health care I receive through my (health insurance) plan." 31 percent extremely satisfied, 41 percent very satisfied, 23 somewhat satisfied.Total: 95 percent satisfaction.
•Mathew Greenwald & Associates for the Employee Benefit Research Institute, Aug. 2008. "Please rate your satisfaction with each of the following aspects of your health care. ... Overall satisfaction with my health (insurance) care plan." 23 percent extremely satisfied, 38 percent very satisfied, 30 percent somewhat satisfied.Total: 91 percent satisfaction.
•Mathew Greenwald & Associates for the Employee Benefit Research Institute, May 2008. "Overall, how satisfied are you with your current health insurance plan?" 17 percent extremely satisfied, 36 percent very satisfied, 33 percent somewhat satisfied.Total: 86 percent satisfaction.
If you average these eight scores, the total rate of satisfaction is 87 percent. In all but one poll, the satisfaction level was below Will's stated level of 95 percent.
One poll, taken five months before Obama was inaugurated, did come up with 95 percent satisfaction. But alone among these eight polls, that survey asked participants about the "quality of health care I receive through my (health insurance) plan." While we decided that the wording was close enough to merit inclusion on our list, the modest difference in satisfaction levels may stem from the way the question was phrased. Many people feel more warmly toward their doctors than they do toward their insurers.
So, while one poll with unique wording pegged satisfaction at 95 percent, the average of all relevant polls over a two-year period was eight points lower than what Will cited. However, Will is correct that the levels of satisfaction with one's own health insurance are consistently high. Indeed, they're extraordinarily high, when one considers how rarely surveys find such high levels of agreement among Americans. Since Will portrayed the larger point accurately, even while modestly overstating the number, we rate his comment Mostly True.
Will says that 95 percent of people with health insurance are satisfied with it
"...levels of satisfaction with one's own health insurance are consistently high."
Yup....Obi was correct: you, simply a follower.
Regurgitated talking point does not answer my question. Why do you feel Obiwan's baby word is more accurate that the actual terminology?
You must know that 'ObamaCare' isn't the name of the bill....he's just as correct as you are.
It's become the popular reference so, no, he's not correct. "Obamacare" is even the title of this forum, because clearly "the PPACA" would earn a "Duh, whut?" from the majority of those posting here.
Clearly, he's making his opinion known.....as are you.
The difference is that his is closer to correct.
How so?
Hint:
"Lie of the Year: 'If you like your health care plan, you can keep it'"
[VIDEO]Lie of the Year: 'If you like your health care plan, you can keep it'
Bet you didn't know that there was no need for ObamaCare....other than government control of 17% of the economy.
•Quinnipiac University, Sept. 2009. "How satisfied are you with your health insurance plan?" 54 percent very satisfied, 34 percent somewhat.Total: 88 percent satisfaction.
•Quinnipiac University, June 2009. "How satisfied are you with your health insurance plan?" 49 percent very satisfied, 36 somewhat satisfied.Total: 85 percent satisfaction.
•ABC News/Washington Post, June 2009. "For each specific item I name, please tell me whether you are very satisfied with it, somewhat satisfied, somewhat dissatisfied or very dissatisfied. ... Your health insurance coverage." 42 percent very satisfied, 39 percent somewhat satisfied. Total: 81 percent satisfaction.
•Mathew Greenwald & Associates for the Employee Benefit Research Institute, May 2009. "Overall, how satisfied are you with your current health insurance plan?" 21 percent extremely satisfied, 37 percent very satisfied, 30 percent somewhat satisfied.Total: 88 percent satisfaction.
•ABC News/Washington Post, June 2009. "For each specific item I name, please tell me whether you are very satisfied with it, somewhat satisfied, somewhat dissatisfied or very dissatisfied. ... Your health insurance coverage." 42 percent very satisfied, 39 percent somewhat satisfied.Total: 81 percent satisfaction.
•Mathew Greenwald & Associates for the Employee Benefit Research Institute, Aug. 2008. "Please rate your satisfaction with each of the following aspects of your health care. ... Quality of health care I receive through my (health insurance) plan." 31 percent extremely satisfied, 41 percent very satisfied, 23 somewhat satisfied.Total: 95 percent satisfaction.
•Mathew Greenwald & Associates for the Employee Benefit Research Institute, Aug. 2008. "Please rate your satisfaction with each of the following aspects of your health care. ... Overall satisfaction with my health (insurance) care plan." 23 percent extremely satisfied, 38 percent very satisfied, 30 percent somewhat satisfied.Total: 91 percent satisfaction.
•Mathew Greenwald & Associates for the Employee Benefit Research Institute, May 2008. "Overall, how satisfied are you with your current health insurance plan?" 17 percent extremely satisfied, 36 percent very satisfied, 33 percent somewhat satisfied.Total: 86 percent satisfaction.
If you average these eight scores, the total rate of satisfaction is 87 percent. In all but one poll, the satisfaction level was below Will's stated level of 95 percent.
One poll, taken five months before Obama was inaugurated, did come up with 95 percent satisfaction. But alone among these eight polls, that survey asked participants about the "quality of health care I receive through my (health insurance) plan." While we decided that the wording was close enough to merit inclusion on our list, the modest difference in satisfaction levels may stem from the way the question was phrased. Many people feel more warmly toward their doctors than they do toward their insurers.
So, while one poll with unique wording pegged satisfaction at 95 percent, the average of all relevant polls over a two-year period was eight points lower than what Will cited. However, Will is correct that the levels of satisfaction with one's own health insurance are consistently high. Indeed, they're extraordinarily high, when one considers how rarely surveys find such high levels of agreement among Americans. Since Will portrayed the larger point accurately, even while modestly overstating the number, we rate his comment Mostly True.
Will says that 95 percent of people with health insurance are satisfied with it
"...levels of satisfaction with one's own health insurance are consistently high."
Yup....Obi was correct: you, simply a follower.
Regurgitated talking point does not answer my question. Why do you feel Obiwan's baby word is more accurate that the actual terminology?
I can call it whatever I want.
It's become the popular reference so, no, he's not correct. "Obamacare" is even the title of this forum, because clearly "the PPACA" would earn a "Duh, whut?" from the majority of those posting here.
Clearly, he's making his opinion known.....as are you.
The difference is that his is closer to correct.
How so?
Hint:
"Lie of the Year: 'If you like your health care plan, you can keep it'"
[VIDEO]Lie of the Year: 'If you like your health care plan, you can keep it'
Bet you didn't know that there was no need for ObamaCare....other than government control of 17% of the economy.
•Quinnipiac University, Sept. 2009. "How satisfied are you with your health insurance plan?" 54 percent very satisfied, 34 percent somewhat.Total: 88 percent satisfaction.
•Quinnipiac University, June 2009. "How satisfied are you with your health insurance plan?" 49 percent very satisfied, 36 somewhat satisfied.Total: 85 percent satisfaction.
•ABC News/Washington Post, June 2009. "For each specific item I name, please tell me whether you are very satisfied with it, somewhat satisfied, somewhat dissatisfied or very dissatisfied. ... Your health insurance coverage." 42 percent very satisfied, 39 percent somewhat satisfied. Total: 81 percent satisfaction.
•Mathew Greenwald & Associates for the Employee Benefit Research Institute, May 2009. "Overall, how satisfied are you with your current health insurance plan?" 21 percent extremely satisfied, 37 percent very satisfied, 30 percent somewhat satisfied.Total: 88 percent satisfaction.
•ABC News/Washington Post, June 2009. "For each specific item I name, please tell me whether you are very satisfied with it, somewhat satisfied, somewhat dissatisfied or very dissatisfied. ... Your health insurance coverage." 42 percent very satisfied, 39 percent somewhat satisfied.Total: 81 percent satisfaction.
•Mathew Greenwald & Associates for the Employee Benefit Research Institute, Aug. 2008. "Please rate your satisfaction with each of the following aspects of your health care. ... Quality of health care I receive through my (health insurance) plan." 31 percent extremely satisfied, 41 percent very satisfied, 23 somewhat satisfied.Total: 95 percent satisfaction.
•Mathew Greenwald & Associates for the Employee Benefit Research Institute, Aug. 2008. "Please rate your satisfaction with each of the following aspects of your health care. ... Overall satisfaction with my health (insurance) care plan." 23 percent extremely satisfied, 38 percent very satisfied, 30 percent somewhat satisfied.Total: 91 percent satisfaction.
•Mathew Greenwald & Associates for the Employee Benefit Research Institute, May 2008. "Overall, how satisfied are you with your current health insurance plan?" 17 percent extremely satisfied, 36 percent very satisfied, 33 percent somewhat satisfied.Total: 86 percent satisfaction.
If you average these eight scores, the total rate of satisfaction is 87 percent. In all but one poll, the satisfaction level was below Will's stated level of 95 percent.
One poll, taken five months before Obama was inaugurated, did come up with 95 percent satisfaction. But alone among these eight polls, that survey asked participants about the "quality of health care I receive through my (health insurance) plan." While we decided that the wording was close enough to merit inclusion on our list, the modest difference in satisfaction levels may stem from the way the question was phrased. Many people feel more warmly toward their doctors than they do toward their insurers.
So, while one poll with unique wording pegged satisfaction at 95 percent, the average of all relevant polls over a two-year period was eight points lower than what Will cited. However, Will is correct that the levels of satisfaction with one's own health insurance are consistently high. Indeed, they're extraordinarily high, when one considers how rarely surveys find such high levels of agreement among Americans. Since Will portrayed the larger point accurately, even while modestly overstating the number, we rate his comment Mostly True.
Will says that 95 percent of people with health insurance are satisfied with it
"...levels of satisfaction with one's own health insurance are consistently high."
Yup....Obi was correct: you, simply a follower.
Regurgitated talking point does not answer my question. Why do you feel Obiwan's baby word is more accurate that the actual terminology?
Need more?
Sure....remember when Gruber revealed this about you:
“Call it the stupidity of the American voter,”Gruber said."
We've all seen this quote because of how insulting it is, another Liberal elitist looking down his nose at Americans.
But...but clarity......let's remember that the"stupidity"is aimed directly at those who voted for the lying windbag in the White House.
That's right!
The folks who presented ObamaCare did so fully recognizing how stupid their supporters are!
Not at those of us who correctly identified what a mistake voting Democrat is!
Again?
The folks who presented ObamaCare did so fully recognizing how stupid their supporters are!