Terrorists invite us to join them in debauchery.....US takes the bait

[rightwinger]

How we went to the Dark Side - The Week

America lost its collective mind. It was amid this mass hysteria that the Bush administration crossed a line that the U.S. had never before crossed, not even in fighting Hitler's Germany. In order to deliver us from evil, our intelligence agencies tortured people with a persistent, sadistic brutality that, we know now, left even CIA officers nauseated, shaking, and crying.

This is terrorism's sick genius. Terrorists invite us — seduce us — to share their Manichaean worldview, to respond to savagery with savagery, to join them in madness. "Make us safe!" Americans demanded. And so our elected leaders launched two wars, saw WMD where there were none, launched surveillance programs with virtually no limits, and embraced "enhanced interrogation." As justification, the White House and the CIA joined Machiavelli, Marx, and Stalin in insisting that the end justifies the means. Lots of individuals bear responsibility for the horrors detailed in the Senate committee’s torture report. But if we are honest, that journey to the Dark Side was a collective failure — and sobering evidence of how fragile our principles really are.

 

[rightwinger]

Terrorists are laughing at us as they bait us to sink down to their levels

Then they claim they were always right about our true nature

 

[bripat9643]

How we went to the Dark Side - The Week

America lost its collective mind. It was amid this mass hysteria that the Bush administration crossed a line that the U.S. had never before crossed, not even in fighting Hitler's Germany. In order to deliver us from evil, our intelligence agencies tortured people with a persistent, sadistic brutality that, we know now, left even CIA officers nauseated, shaking, and crying.

This is terrorism's sick genius. Terrorists invite us — seduce us — to share their Manichaean worldview, to respond to savagery with savagery, to join them in madness. "Make us safe!" Americans demanded. And so our elected leaders launched two wars, saw WMD where there were none, launched surveillance programs with virtually no limits, and embraced "enhanced interrogation." As justification, the White House and the CIA joined Machiavelli, Marx, and Stalin in insisting that the end justifies the means. Lots of individuals bear responsibility for the horrors detailed in the Senate committee’s torture report. But if we are honest, that journey to the Dark Side was a collective failure — and sobering evidence of how fragile our principles really are.

You're utterly naive if you believe we never tortured German prisoners. Plenty of GIs from that war have admitted we did.

 

[B. Kidd]

BFD.......some folks got waterboarded.

And, if not suffering another major terrorist attack since 9-11 is a 'collective failure', then the OP and his source are terrorist sympathizers.

 

[rightwinger]

How we went to the Dark Side - The Week

America lost its collective mind. It was amid this mass hysteria that the Bush administration crossed a line that the U.S. had never before crossed, not even in fighting Hitler's Germany. In order to deliver us from evil, our intelligence agencies tortured people with a persistent, sadistic brutality that, we know now, left even CIA officers nauseated, shaking, and crying.

This is terrorism's sick genius. Terrorists invite us — seduce us — to share their Manichaean worldview, to respond to savagery with savagery, to join them in madness. "Make us safe!" Americans demanded. And so our elected leaders launched two wars, saw WMD where there were none, launched surveillance programs with virtually no limits, and embraced "enhanced interrogation." As justification, the White House and the CIA joined Machiavelli, Marx, and Stalin in insisting that the end justifies the means. Lots of individuals bear responsibility for the horrors detailed in the Senate committee’s torture report. But if we are honest, that journey to the Dark Side was a collective failure — and sobering evidence of how fragile our principles really are.

You're utterly naive if you believe we never tortured German prisoners. Plenty of GIs from that war have admitted we did.

Did our government direct them to do so?

 

[Tom Sweetnam]

Ahhhh....so it was Bush's fault. What an interesting and original take on politics. Did mommy help you with that...idiot?

 

[Nosmo King]

Ahhhh....so it was Bush's fault. What an interesting and original take on politics. Did mommy help you with that...idiot?

The web od deceit insured that Bush was kept in the dark. Plausible deniability, or lack of due process? Perhaps lack of intellectual curiosity. Regardless, this was a Cheney program from the start.

Do you trust Dick Cheney? Would you go hunting with him?

 

[Tom Sweetnam]

Ahhhh....so it was Bush's fault. What an interesting and original take on politics. Did mommy help you with that...idiot?

The web od deceit insured that Bush was kept in the dark. Plausible deniability, or lack of due process? Perhaps lack of intellectual curiosity. Regardless, this was a Cheney program from the start.

Do you trust Dick Cheney? Would you go hunting with him?

Only if the game were two-legged marxists.

 

[Nosmo King]

Ahhhh....so it was Bush's fault. What an interesting and original take on politics. Did mommy help you with that...idiot?

The web od deceit insured that Bush was kept in the dark. Plausible deniability, or lack of due process? Perhaps lack of intellectual curiosity. Regardless, this was a Cheney program from the start.

Do you trust Dick Cheney? Would you go hunting with him?

Only if the game were two-legged marxists.

I'm guessing that the banker Cheney shot suddenly qualifies as a Marxist.

But then again, a true Marxist is hard to find. Idiots without the least bit of political science education and a basic awareness of political affiliations are all too quick to point out their lack of intellect and sophistication and call everyone a Marxist because it's the only word they know. Mores the pity.

 

[Steve_McGarrett]

Ahhhh....so it was Bush's fault. What an interesting and original take on politics. Did mommy help you with that...idiot?

The web od deceit insured that Bush was kept in the dark. Plausible deniability, or lack of due process? Perhaps lack of intellectual curiosity. Regardless, this was a Cheney program from the start.

Do you trust Dick Cheney? Would you go hunting with him?

I would be honored to go hunting with Cheney. He would have made a great president.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

How we went to the Dark Side - The Week

America lost its collective mind. It was amid this mass hysteria that the Bush administration crossed a line that the U.S. had never before crossed, not even in fighting Hitler's Germany. In order to deliver us from evil, our intelligence agencies tortured people with a persistent, sadistic brutality that, we know now, left even CIA officers nauseated, shaking, and crying.

This is terrorism's sick genius. Terrorists invite us — seduce us — to share their Manichaean worldview, to respond to savagery with savagery, to join them in madness. "Make us safe!" Americans demanded. And so our elected leaders launched two wars, saw WMD where there were none, launched surveillance programs with virtually no limits, and embraced "enhanced interrogation." As justification, the White House and the CIA joined Machiavelli, Marx, and Stalin in insisting that the end justifies the means. Lots of individuals bear responsibility for the horrors detailed in the Senate committee’s torture report. But if we are honest, that journey to the Dark Side was a collective failure — and sobering evidence of how fragile our principles really are.

Except... out intelligence agencies didn't torture anyone.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

But then again, a true Marxist is hard to find. Idiots without the least bit of political science education and a basic awareness of political affiliations are all too quick to point out their lack of intellect and sophistication and call everyone a Marxist because it's the only word they know. Mores the pity.

Yeah... I hear ya. It's pretty hard to find a true duck as well. I too am easily irritated when people refer to Mallards and Mandarins are DUCKS!

A lot of people went to a LOT of trouble to identify all the numerous variations... it just shows your ignorance when you try to call a Northern Shoveler a "Duck".

GET IT RIGHT YOU IGNORANT TOOLS!

 

[Tom Sweetnam]

Ahhhh....so it was Bush's fault. What an interesting and original take on politics. Did mommy help you with that...idiot?

The web od deceit insured that Bush was kept in the dark. Plausible deniability, or lack of due process? Perhaps lack of intellectual curiosity. Regardless, this was a Cheney program from the start.

Do you trust Dick Cheney? Would you go hunting with him?

Only if the game were two-legged marxists.

I'm guessing that the banker Cheney shot suddenly qualifies as a Marxist.

But then again, a true Marxist is hard to find. Idiots without the least bit of political science education and a basic awareness of political affiliations are all too quick to point out their lack of intellect and sophistication and call everyone a Marxist because it's the only word they know. Mores the pity.

Oh good, some vapid pedantry to help us along. 99% of American leftists wouldn't know a real Marxist if he kicked them in the balls. Leftists in this country who fancy themselves as Marxists/communists would be the first worthless chaff lined up against the walls and shot if this nation ever became a real communist polity. Communists have little patience for empty proselytizing, and they have no patience for cowardice, both sacred tenets of the American left.

 

[rightwinger]

Ahhhh....so it was Bush's fault. What an interesting and original take on politics. Did mommy help you with that...idiot?

Yes....the torture was Bushs fault

It is his legacy

 

[The Rabbi]

Did anyone catch the last beheading on CNN, where Joe Biden capped some terrorist?
No? Me neither.
Another fail troll thread from Nutjobber. See my sig line.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Ahhhh....so it was Bush's fault. What an interesting and original take on politics. Did mommy help you with that...idiot?

The web od deceit insured that Bush was kept in the dark. Plausible deniability, or lack of due process? Perhaps lack of intellectual curiosity. Regardless, this was a Cheney program from the start.

Do you trust Dick Cheney? Would you go hunting with him?

Only if the game were two-legged marxists.

I'm guessing that the banker Cheney shot suddenly qualifies as a Marxist.

But then again, a true Marxist is hard to find. Idiots without the least bit of political science education and a basic awareness of political affiliations are all too quick to point out their lack of intellect and sophistication and call everyone a Marxist because it's the only word they know. Mores the pity.

Oh good, some vapid pedantry to help us along. 99% of American leftists wouldn't know a real Marxist if he kicked them in the balls. Leftists in this country who fancy themselves as Marxists/communists would be the first worthless chaff lined up against the walls and shot if this nation ever became a real communist polity. Communists have little patience for empty proselytizing, and they have no patience for cowardice, both sacred tenets of the American left.

True, but in fairness... communists only true purpose is the fomentation of chaos, calamity and catastrophe.

But hey! Such is the nature of evil... now isn't it?

 

[rightwinger]

How we went to the Dark Side - The Week

America lost its collective mind. It was amid this mass hysteria that the Bush administration crossed a line that the U.S. had never before crossed, not even in fighting Hitler's Germany. In order to deliver us from evil, our intelligence agencies tortured people with a persistent, sadistic brutality that, we know now, left even CIA officers nauseated, shaking, and crying.

This is terrorism's sick genius. Terrorists invite us — seduce us — to share their Manichaean worldview, to respond to savagery with savagery, to join them in madness. "Make us safe!" Americans demanded. And so our elected leaders launched two wars, saw WMD where there were none, launched surveillance programs with virtually no limits, and embraced "enhanced interrogation." As justification, the White House and the CIA joined Machiavelli, Marx, and Stalin in insisting that the end justifies the means. Lots of individuals bear responsibility for the horrors detailed in the Senate committee’s torture report. But if we are honest, that journey to the Dark Side was a collective failure — and sobering evidence of how fragile our principles really are.

Except... out intelligence agencies didn't torture anyone.

As per the UN resolution on torture signed by Reagan......we did

 

[The Rabbi]

Ahhhh....so it was Bush's fault. What an interesting and original take on politics. Did mommy help you with that...idiot?

The web od deceit insured that Bush was kept in the dark. Plausible deniability, or lack of due process? Perhaps lack of intellectual curiosity. Regardless, this was a Cheney program from the start.

Do you trust Dick Cheney? Would you go hunting with him?

Proof?
No, just more shit-spewing from the resident toilet expert.

 

[The Rabbi]

How we went to the Dark Side - The Week

America lost its collective mind. It was amid this mass hysteria that the Bush administration crossed a line that the U.S. had never before crossed, not even in fighting Hitler's Germany. In order to deliver us from evil, our intelligence agencies tortured people with a persistent, sadistic brutality that, we know now, left even CIA officers nauseated, shaking, and crying.

This is terrorism's sick genius. Terrorists invite us — seduce us — to share their Manichaean worldview, to respond to savagery with savagery, to join them in madness. "Make us safe!" Americans demanded. And so our elected leaders launched two wars, saw WMD where there were none, launched surveillance programs with virtually no limits, and embraced "enhanced interrogation." As justification, the White House and the CIA joined Machiavelli, Marx, and Stalin in insisting that the end justifies the means. Lots of individuals bear responsibility for the horrors detailed in the Senate committee’s torture report. But if we are honest, that journey to the Dark Side was a collective failure — and sobering evidence of how fragile our principles really are.

Except... out intelligence agencies didn't torture anyone.

As per the UN resolution on torture signed by Reagan......we did

More assertions utterly lacking proof.
See my sig for some level of comfort.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

As per the UN resolution on torture signed by Reagan......we did

No... we didn't. Not 'per' any instrument, signed by anyone, anywhere, at any time.

Causing mass-murderers 'discomfort' is not torture, PERIOD.

Just as patting a woman on her ass,or brushing her tit is not rape and, just as there is no right for a person of equal rights to murder another, when that other is deemed by that person to be 'inconvenient'.